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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (2 Viewers)

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MaxThreshold said:
The delusion is strong with you. :lmao:

Hey, if you move the goalposts any more they are going to be out in the parking lot.
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When I have used Krugman as the voice for Hillary, the DNC, the Democratic Party or any major Democratic politician? I think I may have posted some of his tweets, but it like any other tweet I repost, just representing someone's point of view I agree with - not holding it out as the last word among any or all Democrats as you imply.

 
squistion said:
When I have used Krugman as the voice for Hillary, the DNC, the Democratic Party or any major Democratic politician? I think I may have posted some of his tweets, but it like any other tweet I repost, just representing someone's point of view I agree with - not holding it out as the last word among any or all Democrats as you imply.
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You're looking foolish once again. 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Paul Krugman ‏@paulkrugman 2h2 hours ago

NBC estimates 8-point Clinton lead w Sanders out. Obama won by 7 in 2008 http://nbcnews.to/1U5rBIS
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See my above post re tweets I repost. This was his poll observation. Am I saying there he is speaking for Hillary? For the DNC? For any Democrats specifically or in general?

Did I represent what he said as being the last word or the truth about anything? He was commenting on an NBC poll which I reposted.

 
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If Krugman truly wants a recount then he's off the deep end on this. 

But are you sure he's truly for a recount? The link Max posted doesn't make that clear. Krugman tweets "OK this is terrifying" but I'm not sure what he's talking about exactly. 

 
timschochet said:
If Krugman truly wants a recount then he's off the deep end on this. 

But are you sure he's truly for a recount? The link Max posted doesn't make that clear. Krugman tweets "OK this is terrifying" but I'm not sure what he's talking about exactly. 
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He has 5/5 tweets if you follow them.  Yes, he's off the deep end, insinuating it's the Russians and we'll live in a cloud of suspicion if we don't recount.  

I repeat that Liberals are playing a very dangerous game.  Advocating for a coup without guns or military backing.  

 
Maybe some democrats are hoping that if they go hard with the recount angle, they can convince Electors to vote Hillary instead of Trump?   They'd need 38 electors to switch their vote.  There's 75 electoral votes between WI, OH, PA, MI, and FL.  But I don't really know if all are able to vote for someone else.  Getting them to abstain will not work, because if no one hits 270 congress votes and they will pick Trump and Pence.

 
jon_mx said:
Where did almost all of the $4 million come from for Jill to finance the recount.   Democrats.  Green Party would not be able to raise that kind of cash. 
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What's really nuts about that is some Democrats are now giving money to a party that may have cost Hillary 2 states in 2016, helped cost Gore 2000, and which is now reloading for 2020. 

I think the Greens are at $4.5 million and what's more they started out at $2 million for the goal but as they keep getting funds they keep pushing the goal up and now it's $7 million. People are basically funding opposition to the Dem nominee in 2020 at this point.

 
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Mr. Ham said:
He has 5/5 tweets if you follow them.  Yes, he's off the deep end, insinuating it's the Russians and we'll live in a cloud of suspicion if we don't recount.  

I repeat that Liberals are playing a very dangerous game.  Advocating for a coup without guns or military backing.  
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Asking for a recount of votes is hardly advocating for a coup. Please

 
squistion said:
If Trump won the popular vote but Hillary became president due to the EC, don't tell me we would not be seeing similar anger and expressions of outrage from the other side. The Trump supporters would not have graciously accepted it and said, "Those are the rules so we must live with it" - and who are you kidding if you think otherwise?
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Maybe you are right you might have seen the same "outrage" though I doubt it. What you would not have seen is the same level of hypocrisy. The left mocked and ridiculed anyone who even suggested the results might not be legitimate, those same people are now are "outraged".

 
Slapdash said:
Seems like basic GOP orthodoxy with a little bit more overt corruption and Russia love 
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I think there's going to be a heckuva lot more Federal Government overreach, a further condolidation of Executive powers and the idea that he'll go to the Democrats if/when the Republicans don't give him what he wants than most "true" Republicans will fell comfortable with.

 
Why am I always away for the terrible fishing trips?!?! :kicksrock:

Establishment types are really struggling with this Trump election.  I guess we won't know, for sure, until the midterms if they "get it" or not.

 
Not the end of the Democrats. It is just a power shift that we see every so often. Republicans dominated early 1900s until the Great Depression then Democrats crushed Republicans for a pretty extended time. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Not the end of the Democrats. It is just a power shift that we see every so often. Republicans dominated early 1900s until the Great Depression then Democrats crushed Republicans for a pretty extended time. 
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Republicans have been doing quite well across the country for a while. State government, governorships, The House, Senate etc.

 
Ilov80s said:
Not the end of the Democrats. It is just a power shift that we see every so often. Republicans dominated early 1900s until the Great Depression then Democrats crushed Republicans for a pretty extended time. 
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As long as it last long enough to appoint 1 and maybe up to 3 Supreme Court Justices.

 
Loan Sharks said:
Sure they have. In unrelated news it was all a dream! Clinton really won! You will wake up any minute in your safe space.
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I'm saying the opposite.  Dopey liberals seem to think if this couldn't happen it wouldn't be met with resistance that can't be managed from Facebook posts. If Hillary were "chosen" it would be viewed as an installation.  A coup. And who has the guns and military support?  Not the liberals.  

 
beavers said:
Maybe. Winning the popular vote by one of the largest margins, while losing the electoral college definitely signals the end. 
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Nah, not really.  What signaled the end is the condescension, demonization, scorn and absolute hatred for anyone that doesn't vote Democrat.  Oh, yeah, and the focus on being SJW instead of focusing on issues that the people actually care about (jobs, economy, etc...).

 
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so please correct me if I'm wrong... Jill Stein made more money asking for a "recount" than she did for her presidential campaign. Just link some MSM for me please...

 
Just quick thoughts re. the college:

There are good arguments on both sides concering the electoral college. As a means to prevent a handful of very heavily populated states from dominating, it's success is fairly limited. Those states still carry HUGE EC prizes. But it does force candidates to at least pay attention to smaller states so it's fair to say it's somewhat succesful.

The counter argument is this though: A candidate wins 50.1% of the votes in a battleground state, and takes 100% of the EC votes for that state (with a couple exceptions). A candidate takes 70% of the vote in another state and gets...the same 100% of the EC votes for that state. In this regard, it's fair to say the EC fails to fully account for the desires of the people of these states.

I'm not sure a perfect answer exists. Neither the EC nor the popular vote seems like an ideal answer. Perhaps require candidates to win BOTH or face a runoff election? (No third party/independants on the ballots.) HOR vote?

 
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