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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (2 Viewers)

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MaxThreshold said:
Nah, not really.  What signaled the end is the condescension, demonization, scorn and absolute hatred for anyone that doesn't vote Democrat.  Oh, yeah, and the focus on being SJW instead of focusing on issues that the people actually care about (jobs, economy, etc...).
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Words on policy pages: Clinton - 113k Trump - 9k

Policy fact sheets: Clinton - 65 Trump - 0

Policy issue pages Clinton - 38 Trump - 6

 
SoBeDad said:
No. Wisconsin will do a recount. Hopefully this will silence the president elect and his supporters about a rigged election involving dead voters and other shenanigans by the dems.
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So with a recount how do you find unbiased people without an agenda to do actual recount?

 
Hang 10 said:
They gerrymandered the senate and governor's races? :lmao:  
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Didn't the GOP lose senate seats in this election?

Is their Senate majority by 1 or 2? 

Let me try to understand the end of the Democratic Party.

1. Popular vote by 2mil 

2. Gained seats in both house and senate

3. Senate minority by 1 - 2 senators

How is this the end of the party?

 
MaxThreshold said:
Nah, not really.  What signaled the end is the condescension, demonization, scorn and absolute hatred for anyone that doesn't vote Democrat.  Oh, yeah, and the focus on being SJW instead of focusing on issues that the people actually care about (jobs, economy, etc...).
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I'd be looking for new "friends" if I was this distraught.

 
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MaxThreshold said:
More importantly, she still fooled the lemmings into continuing to go to bat for her. Even in a disastrous loss they still can't think for themselves.
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I always giggle when I see Trump fans call people sheeple and lemmings and that H supporters can't think for themselves ?

 
beavers said:
I always giggle when I see Trump fans call people sheeple and lemmings and that H supporters can't think for themselves ?
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Keep giggling......the dems have lost the House, Senate, and now Presidency. Hopefully you all don't wake up so our country can accomplish something this term unlike the last 2 wasted on ineffective health insurance agenda. 

 
GoBirds said:
Keep giggling......the dems have lost the House, Senate, and now Presidency. Hopefully you all don't wake up so our country can accomplish something this term unlike the last 2 wasted on ineffective health insurance agenda. 
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I wasn't giggling over the losses.

:confused:

 
Mr. Ham said:
I'm saying the opposite.  Dopey liberals seem to think if this couldn't happen it wouldn't be met with resistance that can't be managed from Facebook posts. If Hillary were "chosen" it would be viewed as an installation.  A coup. And who has the guns and military support?  Not the liberals.  
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Hope you are proud of your Trump vote.  Have fun explaining that to your grandkids 20 years from now. 

 
JIslander said:
So a population more than a 1/3 the number of Trump votes now have health care because of Obamas ACA.
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Somewhere there is a political calculus to be done because as I recall it the fact that so many millions would be receiving the benefits of the new program that running against it nationally would be prohibitive.

 
JIslander said:
So a population more than a 1/3 the number of Trump votes now have health care because of Obamas ACA.
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You mean because of their enrollment in medicare/aid that they were already eligible for then yeah. And of course if you don't count the millions of families that "lost" their coverage because the premiums and deductibles make their insurance unusable. 

 
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beavers said:
I always giggle when I see Trump fans call people sheeple and lemmings and that H supporters can't think for themselves ?
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You've made a YUUUUUGGGGEEE assumption here and now you just look like an ###:  I am no Trump fan or supporter.  Didn't even vote for him.   This is well known here on these boards.

 
JIslander said:
So a population more than a 1/3 the number of Trump votes now have health care because of Obamas ACA.
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Keep focusing on that one, mostly false, talking point.  What you're purposefully forgetting is that the other 90% of the population got majorly screwed and saw their premiums and deductibles go thru the roof.  What good is insurance if you can't use it?  It's "virtual" insurance: Technically you have it but you can't really use it.

Parrots like you and TGunz keep repeating this while the entire thing burns around you.  That bubble really does exist and you're living in it.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
I think Hillary has checked out for a while and I don't blame her.
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For a while?

I think Hillary should check out for a few years, perhaps longer. If and when she returns to the public scene, it should be as an elder stateswoman, but careful not to interject herself in anything but important international issues, and NEVER in day to day politics. The last few years of Adlai Stevenson might be a good model here.

 
timschochet said:
For a while?

I think Hillary should check out for a few years, perhaps longer. If and when she returns to the public scene, it should be as an elder stateswoman, but careful not to interject herself in anything but important international issues, and NEVER in day to day politics. The last few years of Adlai Stevenson might be a good model here.
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I think she should divorce Bill, come out of the closet and then become a regular on The View. 

 
MaxThreshold said:
Keep focusing on that one, mostly false, talking point.  What you're purposefully forgetting is that the other 90% of the population got majorly screwed and saw their premiums and deductibles go thru the roof.  What good is insurance if you can't use it?  It's "virtual" insurance: Technically you have it but you can't really use it.
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If his was a false talking point, then yours is worse. You know very well that the rate hikes only affected a percentage of those with individual coverage- the majority who have employer based plans have not yet been affected. So why are you talking about 90% of the population? There are enough problems with Obamacare that you don't need to lie about it.

 
timschochet said:
For a while?

I think Hillary should check out for a few years, perhaps longer. If and when she returns to the public scene, it should be as an elder stateswoman, but careful not to interject herself in anything but important international issues, and NEVER in day to day politics. The last few years of Adlai Stevenson might be a good model here.
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She should never return.  Ever.  That would be like wishing Nixon would come back.  She's just as corrupt and shady as he was (probably even more so).  She needs to go away and stay away.

 
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timschochet said:
For a while?

I think Hillary should check out for a few years, perhaps longer. If and when she returns to the public scene, it should be as an elder stateswoman, but careful not to interject herself in anything but important international issues, and NEVER in day to day politics. The last few years of Adlai Stevenson might be a good model here.
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I agree. And the pics I have seen of her she looks fairly normal and unburdened. Good luck to her.

 
tommyGunZ said:
Correct.  Lesson for Dems is to dumb it down and lie to voters.  
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Or maybe the better lesson is too stick your head in the sand, cry and blame someone else instead of looking inward.

But, to be completely fair and honest, Hillary actually did lie quite a bit to the voters.  Between her the Donald they were like #1 and #2 best liars ever.

 
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Sand said:
The lesson for Democrats is to realize that there aren't enough social justice warriors to carry an election.  Hard working people vote with their wallets.
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No, the lesson here is to back someone with an ounce of charm and to campaign/spend money in states your ground teams are warning aren't a lock even if you think they are. 

 
tommyGunZ said:
Hope you are proud of your Trump vote.  Have fun explaining that to your grandkids 20 years from now. 
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Boo-hoo.  Would you like some cheese with that whine?  

Suck it up, buttercup.  Life will go on.  The silver lining here is that YOU don't have to explain to your grandkids about Hillary Clinton. But you will have to explain to them how much of a big fat baby you were.

 
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Hilts said:
No, the lesson here is to back someone with an ounce of charm and to campaign/spend money in states your ground teams are warning aren't a lock even if you think they are. 
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Sure, that too.  As I've said earlier, if Clinton had chosen Booker we might have her as POTUS.  And I fully expect Booker to be POTUS in four years.

 
MaxThreshold said:
She should never return.  Ever.  That would be like wishing Nixon would come back.  She's just as corrupt and shady as he was (probably even more so).  She needs to go away and stay away.
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Nixon did come back- as a statesman, commenting on international affairs and writing several books about them. And he rehabilitated his image. Hillary does not need to rehabilitate hers, as despite your constant claims she appears to be innocent of any crime.

 
Sand said:
Sure, that too.  As I've said earlier, if Clinton had chosen Booker we might have her as POTUS.  And I fully expect Booker to be POTUS in four years.
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If the economy is doing well in four years we're probably going to have another Trump victory. 

 
timschochet said:
Nixon did come back- as a statesman, commenting on international affairs and writing several books about them. And he rehabilitated his image. Hillary does not need to rehabilitate hers, as despite your constant claims she appears to be innocent of any crime.
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Clinton doesn't HAVE to rehabilitate her image because she knows there will always be lemmings that would support her no matter what.  OJ was also innocent, btw.

 
squistion said:
Which doesn't necessarily imply they believe there was any wrongdoing. Votes can be unintentionally miscounted or tabulated and election results have been overturned in the past when a small vote victory is subjected to an audit or recount of the votes with no showing of fixing by anyone.
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Right, they've specifically stated they haven't found any wrongdoing.

I'm all for transparency and good government, recount away. But let's face it this has been triggered by a 'fake news' conspiracy theory.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Right, they've specifically stated they haven't found any wrongdoing.

I'm all for transparency and good government, recount away. But let's face it this has been triggered by a 'fake news' conspiracy theory.
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Wisconsin is close enough that there should be a recount even if there were no 'fake news' conspiracy theories, just to put to rest any claims in the future that Hillary would have been the winner if a recount had been allowed (see Al Gore 2000).

 
squistion said:
Wisconsin is close enough that there should be a recount even if there were no 'fake news' conspiracy theories, just to put to rest any claims in the future that Hillary would have been the winner if a recount had been allowed (see Al Gore 2000).
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I'd agree with that. IMO voting validation laws aren't used enough.

 
One aspect I don't agree with for the DNC getting involved is they are basically saving the Greens money... which can be used in 2020... which could cost the DNC EVs. Let the Greens spend the money.

 
From the Clinton spokesperson.

“We do so fully aware that the number of votes separating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the closest of these states -- Michigan -- well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount,“

So you are saying there is a chance?  :lmao:

 
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tommyGunZ said:
Hope you are proud of your Trump vote.  Have fun explaining that to your grandkids 20 years from now. 
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And here we have it.  The reason he won.  Congrats.  I wouldn't have chosen him, or Clinton.  People like you chose her, and here we are.  And people like you lived in echo chambers and used shame as a weapon that backfired.  My President would have been a sane, reasonable representative void of major scandal and a pattern of corruption.  Sadly, none existed on my ballot.  So thanks for that.    

 
Loan Sharks said:
From the Clinton spokesperson.

“We do so fully aware that the number of votes separating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the closest of these states -- Michigan -- well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount,“

So you are saying there is a chance?  :lmao:
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And per the Hillary campaign WI & PA have ALREADY done post election audits.

 
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