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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (8 Viewers)

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Juxtatarot said:
I haven't followed this as closely as most of you (which might be a good thing) but if this PolitiFact assessment is fair and accurate, the outrage over Clinton lying about information marked classified seems ridiculous to me.    I don't know why anyone's vote would be swayed over it.
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I don't know what to tell you. The whole conversation about voting is ridiculous because "TRUMP" but IMO she's been lying straight for a year on every factual issue. To me it's just a question of priorities, and I don't blame people for putting the USSC and college loans or equality etc first, just please don't shirk away from the details of what's happened here.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
WAIT.... WAIT... WAIT... SHE USES SAFARI!?!?

Ok, she just lost my vote. Thats straight up criminal!
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Open internet with little to no password and every major intelligence service in the world after her data. I mean it's funny I agree but I'm pretty sure 5th graders wouldn't be this stupid in this day and age.

 
I haven't followed this as closely as most of you (which might be a good thing) but if this PolitiFact assessment is fair and accurate, the outrage over Clinton lying about information marked classified seems ridiculous to me. I don't know why anyone's vote would be swayed over it.
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The State Department confirmed July 6 that it was aware of two emails that were marked confidential, the lowest level of classification, when they were sent. An aide sent the two emails to Clinton to prepare her for phone calls with foreign leaders, according to the New York Times.

State Department spokesman John Kirby said call sheets are often classified when they are prepared. But then at some point before the call is made, someone with the appropriate authority will declassify them. These two call sheets sent to Clinton unnecessarily retained their confidential markings due to human error, Kirby said.

Even though just two emails out of many thousands were marked classified at the time they were sent, it’s more than the number Clinton cited: zero.
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Phil Elliott said:
And there isn't any question on your part about the events that occurred this past week or so that may have been an impact on this case? The bottom line, is the President, Secretary of State, Attorney General and Director of the FBI are under scrutiny of being crooks. 
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This is performance art.  You guys are the absolute best.  :wub:

 
So the two main choices are between someone extremely careless vs someone extremely clueless.How in the hell did we end up with these two turds anyways?Almost laughable if it wasn't so sad.

 
Juxtatarot said:
I haven't followed this as closely as most of you (which might be a good thing) but if this PolitiFact assessment is fair and accurate, the outrage over Clinton lying about information marked classified seems ridiculous to me.    I don't know why anyone's vote would be swayed over it.
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The sad reality is that we get so excited about our own opinions and party loyalties, that it seems very little will sway anyone to change their vote.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Direct quote from Comey:

"You know what would be a double standard? If she were PROSECUTED for gross negligence."
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I'm not arguing for prosecution, per se, although many examples exist where someone like Nishamura.  But in responding the quote that somehow this hearing today is taking us away from solving the issues of this country.  These sorts of exchanges are substantive and relevant to the direction of the country.   I think Comey is doing a satisfactory job in detailing his perspective

 
tom22406 said:
So the two main choices are between someone extremely careless vs someone extremely clueless.How in the hell did we end up with these two turds anyways?Almost laughable if it wasn't so sad.
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FWIW there's a difference between doing something "extremely careless" and being "extremely careless."   Clinton is definitely not the latter.  If anything her critics would probably say she's too measured and calculated as a general rule.

I'm not gonna try to tell you this matchup is Lincoln-Douglas Part II, but your characterization of Clinton wasn't quite fair.

 
Listening to Comey, and reading that Politifact article, I am feeling better and better about Hillary Clinton. 

 
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timschochet said:
Listening to Comey, and reading that Politifact article, I am feeling better and better about Hillary Clinton. 
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Let's not be as obtuse as the republicans now in the opposite direction. You made this mistake before. Don't make it again. Everyone looks awful out of this. Except Comey. 

 
Jason Chaffetz while shaving this morning: "This is your time to shine, baby! Go out there and play like a champion today! You're the man!"

 
I have to say, republicans looking bad in this, but they also achieved the goal of the goal was to shed more light on the recklessness piece. Hillary comes off worse after today than she did even after Comey's press conference. 

 
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