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Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (5 Viewers)

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squistion said:
They did in 2008 and 2012 and it looks like they certainly will again with Hillary in November.

Cheers!   :banned:
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More delusions.  You need some real help.  The only other person I know so brainwashed like this is TGunz.  You guys brothers?  Or maybe this is a TGunz alias?  Would explain a lot.

 
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MaxThreshold said:
Really?  Because I haven heard or seen #### about that.  Where is this excitement you speak of?
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Yeah, well...AOL Dialup is no longer considered cutting edge for receiving news.

Have you heard of social media and this thing called Twitter?

 
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Green Party candidate: Prosecute Clinton


The Green Party’s likely presidential nominee said federal officials should prosecute Hillary Clinton for mishandling classified information and endangering national security.

In a Wednesday statement, Jill Stein echoed Republican criticism of the Obama administration, saying that the FBI “is giving Clinton a pass” by declining to recommend criminal charges related to her use of a private email system while serving as secretary of State.

“All the elements necessary to prove a felony violation were found by the FBI investigation,” Stein said in a statement. 

“Her staff has said Secretary Clinton stated she used her private email system because she did not want her personal emails to become accessible under [Freedom of Information] laws,” she added. “This is damning on two counts — that she intended to disregard the protection of security information, and that she had personal business to conceal.”

FBI Director James Comey on Tuesday said the investigation found little evidence to suggest Clinton and her aides intended to mishandle sensitive information, though they did appear to be “extremely careless.”

Still, that did not meet the legal standard of “gross negligence,” Comey said.

Stein disagreed and said that details about the setup revealed by the FBI “undermined the defenses Clinton put forward." Aides to Clinton have not claimed she was aiming to thwart the Freedom of Information Act in particular, though in emails she said she didn’t “want any risk of the personal [messages] being accessible.” 

Insisting that Clinton be prosecuted for mishandling classified information is an unexpected position for Stein, who, like Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, has hoped to take advantage of the high public disapproval of both Clinton and presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump.

Stein has made a blatant appeal to supporters of Clinton’s primary opponents Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

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Stein on Wednesday also alluded to potential conflicts of interest during Clinton’s time in office, such as the relationship between her official duties as the nation’s top diplomat and benefactors of her family foundation.

“The blurring of the lines between Clinton family private business and national security matters in the secretary of State office underscores evidence on many other fronts that Hillary Clinton is serving the 1 percent, not we the people,” Stein said.

“The secretary of State's office should not be a place to conduct private back room business deals."
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http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/286662-green-party-candidate-prosecute-clinton

 
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Stein: Prosecute Clinton for Reckless Abuses of National Security



Jill Stein made the following statement about the FBI decision regarding Hillary Clinton's violations of national security laws as Secretary of State.

Today FBI Director James Comey described Hillary Clinton's email communications as Secretary of State as "extremely careless." His statement undermined the defenses Clinton put forward, stating the FBI found 110 emails on Clinton's server that were classified at the time they were sent or received; eight contained information classified at the highest level, "top secret," at the time they were sent. That stands in direct contradiction to Clinton's repeated insistence she never sent or received any classified emails.

All the elements necessary to prove a felony violation were found by the FBI investigation, specifically of Title 18 Section 793(f) of the federal penal code, a law ensuring proper protection of highly classified information. Director Comey said that Clinton was "extremely careless" in handling such information. Contrary to the implications of the FBI statement, the law does not require showing that Clinton intended to harm the United States, but that she acted with gross negligence.

The recent State Department Inspector General (IG) report was clear that Clinton blithely disregarded safeguards to protect the most highly classified national security information and that she included on her unprotected email server the names of covert CIA officers. The disclosure of such information is a felony under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

While the FBI is giving Clinton a pass for not "intending" to betray state secrets, her staff has said Secretary Clinton stated she used her private email system because she did not want her personal emails to become accessible under FOI laws. This is damning on two counts – that she intended to disregard the protection of security information, and that she had personal business to conceal.

This is not the end of the Clinton email issues. Department of Justice officials filed a motion in federal court on June 29th requesting a 27-month delay in producing correspondence between former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's four top aides and officials with the Clinton Foundation and Teneo Holdings, a public relations firm that Bill Clinton helped launch.

Hillary Clinton deleted 30,000 emails claiming they were 'personal'. This is equal to the volume of her emails designated as department business. If half of an employee's email volume is for their personal business, they are not using their time for their job.

If Secretary Clinton was conducting personal business for her family Foundation through the Secretary of State's Office, this is a matter the American public deserves to know about. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton routinely granted lucrative special contracts, weapons deals and government partnerships to Clinton Foundation donors. The Secretary of State's office should not be a place to conduct private back room business deals.

The blurring of the lines between Clinton family private business and national security matters in the Secretary of State Office underscores evidence on many other fronts that Hillary Clinton is serving the 1%, not we the people.

Hillary Clinton's failure to protect critical security information is not the only thing in her tenure as Secretary that deserves the term reckless, including her decision to pursue catastrophic regime change in Libya, and to support the overthrow of democratically elected governments in Ukraine and Honduras.
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http://www.jill2016.com/stein_prosecute_clinton_for_reckless_abuses_of_national_security


 
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TripItUp said:
Yeah!!!  The socialist is endorsing the liar!!

Couldn't be happier for the country!
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Funny I kept telling people in this thread for over a year that being a Socialist would be used against Bernie.

And I kept being told, no one cares about that. You don't know what you are talking about.

Thanks for proving me right! :banned:

 
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MaxThreshold said:
Yeah, that great, but doesn't describe the "excitement" you guys keep talking about.  Also, not sure why you keep bringing up Fox.  It's almost like you're obsessed with it.
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:sigh:

First you claimed it wasn't covered at all.  Now you admit it was covered by the networks as real news but you don't see the "excitement".

MaxThreshold said:
Not really interest in being a social media whore like you.  I don't see this any of this in the real news.
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squistion said:
:sigh:

First you claimed it wasn't covered at all.  No you admit it was covered by networks as real news but you don't see the "excitement".
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My original question was that I don't see this "excitement" being covered anywhere.  The article you linked doesn't disprove it at all.  In fact, it doesn't even address anything about "excitement", just simply that he's going to endorse her.

 
MaxThreshold said:
My original question was that I don't see this "excitement" being covered anywhere.  The article you linked doesn't disprove it at all.  In fact, it doesn't even address anything about "excitement", just simply that he's going to endorse her.
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Nope you said:

  I don't see this any of this in the real news.
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Nothing about the excitement.

 
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
 

 
It should concern every American how Hillary employs media tactics that Goebbels would be proud of.  From kick backs and intimidation to journalists, to no press conferences, to media outlets owned by her super pac.  Within a week, the Directors of the FBI calls her careless and exposes a dozen lies, and she's got her soldiers burying it all with confusing media fodder as if he owes her an apology -- when instead she should have been arguably should have been charged.

This is a scary era in American politics.  At least Trump is a look you in the eyes frat boy rapist.  Hillary is a duck tape and put you in the trunk on the way to bury you alive psychopath.  

 
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squistion said:
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
 
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First time we've agreed.

 
squistion said:
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
 
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Making fun of stutterers. Real nice, man.

 
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dparker713 said:
Do you actually think that McCain or Romney would have been better Presidents?
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Better than Obama?  Who knows.  Obama's been a pretty good president.  I think Romney would have been fine too.  Not a fan of McCain, but I have no reason to think that a McCain presidency would have been particularly bad.

I would drop to my knees and weep with joy if either of those guys was the Republican nominee right now.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Better than Obama?  Who knows.  Obama's been a pretty good president.  I think Romney would have been fine too.  Not a fan of McCain, but I have no reason to think that a McCain presidency would have been particularly bad.

I would drop to my knees and weep with joy if either of those guys was the Republican nominee right now.
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Romney's was running on supply side economics - tax cuts for the wealthy lead to economic growth.  Oh, and he was going to cut spending everywhere but defense.  He'd have been a disaster.  

 
Mr. Ham said:
It should concern every American how Hillary employs media tactics that Goebbels would be proud of.  From kick backs and intimidation to journalists, to no press conferences, to media outlets owned by her super pac.  Within a week, the Directors of the FBI calls her careless and exposes a dozen lies, and she's got her soldiers burying it all with confusing media fodder as if he owes her an apology -- when instead she should have been arguably should have been charged.

This is a scary era in American politics.  At least Trump is a look you in the eyes frat boy rapist.  Hillary is a duck tape and put you in the trunk on the way to bury you alive psychopath.  
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There's only one candidate that's talked about changing the libel laws and bans respected news outlets from their campaign events - it ain't Hillary.

 
I'm not sure it should be Clinton specifically, but someone on the Dem side needs to start hammering the general message "He can't run a campaign, and you want him to run the country?"

His campaign is just one never ending cluster####.

 
MaxThreshold said:
Says the tax and spend guy.  Romney would have been so much better.
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Where the #### do you get that I'm a tax and spend guy?  

We need adults in the room to work on something like the Bowles-Simpson plan that gets spending under control and recognizes that a revenue gap isn't going to disappear with magical growth following tax cuts.  We should eliminate the carried interest loophole, eliminate the different rates for capital gains versus income, eliminate the cap on the Social Security tax, make significant cuts to defense, repeal No Child Left Behind, and allow for the government to negotiate drug prices under Medicare part D.  

 
wdcrob said:
I'm not sure it should be Clinton specifically, but someone on the Dem side needs to start hammering the general message "He can't run a campaign, and you want him to run the country?"

His campaign is just one never ending cluster####.
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Hillary's career is one big cluster#### and I am sure trump will play that card throughout.   

 
Mr. Ham said:
It should concern every American how Hillary employs media tactics that Goebbels would be proud of.  From kick backs and intimidation to journalists, to no press conferences, to media outlets owned by her super pac.  Within a week, the Directors of the FBI calls her careless and exposes a dozen lies, and she's got her soldiers burying it all with confusing media fodder as if he owes her an apology -- when instead she should have been arguably should have been charged.

This is a scary era in American politics.  At least Trump is a look you in the eyes frat boy rapist.  Hillary is a duck tape and put you in the trunk on the way to bury you alive psychopath.  
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So Hillary is Goebbels now? And a "bury you alive psychopath"?

Of greater concern is your state of mind. This is a like a caricature of someone with serious mental health issues, except in your case, it is real. If this were trolling it would be pathetic and the fact that it isn't is scarier than this era in American politics you are worried about.

 
dparker713 said:
There's only one candidate that's talked about changing the libel laws and bans respected news outlets from their campaign events - it ain't Hillary.
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Both scary --  I have no doubt both will take as many liberties as they can get away with.

 
squistion said:
So Hillary is Goebbels now? And a "bury you alive psychopath"?

Of greater concern is your state of mind. This is a like a caricature of someone with serious mental health issues, except in your case, it is real. If this were trolling it would be pathetic and the fact that it isn't is scarier than this era in American politics you are worried about.
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Hillary's goal, I firmly believe, is to create a controlled state and propaganda machine.  (It is Trump's as well).  We are at a dangerous crossroads where the press is already effectively hobbled and many (like you) don't bat an eye at extending the powers of cult leaders at the detriment of laws and the Constitution.  

This is happening.  One quoted Tweet at a time.

 
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dparker713 said:
Romney's was running on supply side economics - tax cuts for the wealthy lead to economic growth.  Oh, and he was going to cut spending everywhere but defense.  He'd have been a disaster.  
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Obama was pretty much status quo on Bush's tax cuts for the rich, so I don't see any difference there.  The biggest difference would have been the makeup of the stimulus package, which under Obama was mostly geared towards easing the pain on the poor.    But that was his first term, so really Romney would have not had an impact on that.  Obama really did not have a significant economic package his second term.  Romney was not going to implement anything radical.  

 
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Mr. Ham said:
We are at a dangerous crossroads where the press is already effectively hobbled and many (like you) don't bat an eye at extending the powers of cult leaders at the detriment of laws and the Constitution.  

This is happening.  One quoted Tweet at a time.
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Twitter is the press. It is the exact opposite of "hobbled".

The press is freer right now than any time in the past 100+ years.
 

 
dparker713 said:
Where the #### do you get that I'm a tax and spend guy?  

We need adults in the room to work on something like the Bowles-Simpson plan that gets spending under control and recognizes that a revenue gap isn't going to disappear with magical growth following tax cuts.  We should eliminate the carried interest loophole, eliminate the different rates for capital gains versus income, eliminate the cap on the Social Security tax, make significant cuts to defense, repeal No Child Left Behind, and allow for the government to negotiate drug prices under Medicare part D.  
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Well you did just advocate three tax increases.  So you are a tax guy.  None of your cuts were aimed at liberal social spending programs, so the verdict is still out on the second part.  I could be on board with your suggested cuts, but it needs to be more wide sweeping, and at least attempt to get social security shored up as well as several other entitlements.  

 
jon_mx said:
Well you did just advocate three tax increases.  So you are a tax guy.  None of your cuts were aimed at liberal social spending programs, so the verdict is still out on the second part.  I could be on board with your suggested cuts, but it needs to be more wide sweeping, and at least attempt to get social security shored up as well as several other entitlements.  
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There are three ways to balance the budget - through growth, taxes and spending cuts.  It's entirely irresponsible to foreclose any and all talk of ever increasing taxes.  The ones I listed flatten out the tax curve so that our tax policies aren't regressive when dealing with the wealthiest among us.  For spending, I named the three largest segments of the budget.  There is no point in talking about liberal social spending programs if you're not serious in cutting where the real spending is happening.  Plus, Social Security becomes more or less solvent in perpetuity by just removing the cap in the tax - no other changes need be made.  

If you put your fingers in your ears everytime someone mentions tax increases, you're not being serious about the budget or fiscal conservatism.  

 
wdcrob said:
I'm not sure it should be Clinton specifically, but someone on the Dem side needs to start hammering the general message "He can't run a campaign, and you want him to run the country?"

His campaign is just one never ending cluster####.
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I can think of a great reason why nobody associated with the Clinton campaign is raising this line of argument.

 
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