Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (3 Viewers)

[timschochet]

In the Bernie Sanders thread Sinn Fein wrote that Hillary Clinton would be rendered unelectable by the GOP, and then the Dems would regret nominating her because it will be too late.

I'm hoping he comes in here to explain this. What could Republicans possibly throw at Hillary that they haven't already?

 

[larch]

So has she flip flopp, er, "evolved" on anything lately?

 

[squistion]

In the Bernie Sanders thread Sinn Fein wrote that Hillary Clinton would be rendered unelectable by the GOP, and then the Dems would regret nominating her because it will be too late.

I'm hoping he comes in here to explain this. What could Republicans possibly throw at Hillary that they haven't already?

He is following the meme that Hillary is unelectable because of (fill in the blank) her lack of ethics, morals and history of illegality that the GOP will bring to light to the American public, because they just haven't realized yet how corrupt she really is, but once they do, it will be all over and too late to nominate another candidate (and us poor Dems will be stuck with her, oh noes!)

Remember Tim, these are pretty much the same people who told us repeatedly in thread after thread here in 2011/2012 that it was absolutely impossible for Obama to win reelection because he was the worst President ever and was unpopular with all voters. As I recall these people were 100% absolutely certain that there was no way Obama would get a second term (although few at that time or subsequently ever put their money where there mouth is, like most of the current Hillary haters/bashers).

 

[The Commish]

 

[Sam Quentin]

Unfortunately, a total lack of ethics, morals, and competence is no longer an impediment to the Presidency....

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Unfortunately, a total lack of ethics, morals, and competence is no longer an impediment to the Presidency....

Andrew Johnson likes this post.

 

[timschochet]

Good article here

http://www.nationaljournal.com/hillary-clinton-2016-democratic-nomination-20150705

It's another reason why Sanders and the rest have no chance of beating Hillary for the nomination: the minority vote.

Obama ultimately won the nomination in the southern caucuses which were dominated by blacks, once they realized he had a real shot to be the first black President. This time around, this group is solidly for Hillary; Sanders, who comes from a state which is 95% white, has made NO inroads. Same for Latinos.

Iowa and New Hampshire are largely white but even if Sanders does well in these states it won't carry over.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

That's true, money, organization, fear of a GOP in all 3 branches, and black support on Super Tuesday. Her advantages are piled high. However she has to stop the downward slide in the polls at some point.

 

[timschochet]

That's true, money, organization, fear of a GOP in all 3 branches, and black support on Super Tuesday. Her advantages are piled high. However she has to stop the downward slide in the polls at some point.

Well she's about to do one thing you've been highly critical of her for not doing: interviews. Lots of them. According to sources, she's wanted that all along, but Podesta was afraid of journalists looking to trap her with answers that could be taken out of context (frankly Saints by people like you looking for any reason to attack her.) But this goes against Hillary's instincts: she hates this persona of her as secretive and untrustworthy. She wants to demonstrate that she is neither.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Yep saw that, odd that it wasn't announced as part of the relaunch, not sure what prompted, but glad to see it happen, we should expect our candidates be fully accessible to the press. Let's see how it goes.

 

[dhockster]

That's true, money, organization, fear of a GOP in all 3 branches, and black support on Super Tuesday. Her advantages are piled high. However she has to stop the downward slide in the polls at some point.

Well she's about to do one thing you've been highly critical of her for not doing: interviews. Lots of them. According to sources, she's wanted that all along, but Podesta was afraid of journalists looking to trap her with answers that could be taken out of context (frankly Saints by people like you looking for any reason to attack her.) But this goes against Hillary's instincts: she hates this persona of her as secretive and untrustworthy. She wants to demonstrate that she is neither.

It will be really interesting to see if she has learned anything about answering questions which bring up criticisms of her. If she continues to eye-roll, whine, and blame the right for everything, this will not help her.

 

[timschochet]

That's true, money, organization, fear of a GOP in all 3 branches, and black support on Super Tuesday. Her advantages are piled high. However she has to stop the downward slide in the polls at some point.

Well she's about to do one thing you've been highly critical of her for not doing: interviews. Lots of them. According to sources, she's wanted that all along, but Podesta was afraid of journalists looking to trap her with answers that could be taken out of context (frankly Saints by people like you looking for any reason to attack her.) But this goes against Hillary's instincts: she hates this persona of her as secretive and untrustworthy. She wants to demonstrate that she is neither.

It will be really interesting to see if she has learned anything about answering questions which bring up criticisms of her. If she continues to eye-roll, whine, and blame the right for everything, this will not help her.

I don't know why not. It's worked fine her entire career.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Sure, keep it screened, scripted and short and she'll be fine. Can't wait to see who gets the first one. Lauer? Ellen?

 

[dhockster]

That's true, money, organization, fear of a GOP in all 3 branches, and black support on Super Tuesday. Her advantages are piled high. However she has to stop the downward slide in the polls at some point.

Well she's about to do one thing you've been highly critical of her for not doing: interviews. Lots of them. According to sources, she's wanted that all along, but Podesta was afraid of journalists looking to trap her with answers that could be taken out of context (frankly Saints by people like you looking for any reason to attack her.) But this goes against Hillary's instincts: she hates this persona of her as secretive and untrustworthy. She wants to demonstrate that she is neither.

It will be really interesting to see if she has learned anything about answering questions which bring up criticisms of her. If she continues to eye-roll, whine, and blame the right for everything, this will not help her.

I don't know why not. It's worked fine her entire career.

Except the only other time she ran for President.

 

[The Commish]

That's true, money, organization, fear of a GOP in all 3 branches, and black support on Super Tuesday. Her advantages are piled high. However she has to stop the downward slide in the polls at some point.

Well she's about to do one thing you've been highly critical of her for not doing: interviews. Lots of them. According to sources, she's wanted that all along, but Podesta was afraid of journalists looking to trap her with answers that could be taken out of context (frankly Saints by people like you looking for any reason to attack her.) But this goes against Hillary's instincts: she hates this persona of her as secretive and untrustworthy. She wants to demonstrate that she is neither.

So, she's qualified to be leader of the free world, but:

1. She's not free to do what she wants?

2. Others are determining what's best for her?

Yeah....awesome. Just the kind of leadership quality I'm looking for

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

My guess is the numbers from polling now tell the Hillary campaign that the need for coverage now outweighs the risk of her screwing up. The timing is very specific here with Sanders getting within 8 and Webb joining the fray. Hillary has really squandered 3-4 months of press surrounding her, it's crazy if you look at it. I'm sure the interviews and questions will be very carefully managed though.

 

[The Commish]

My guess is the numbers from polling now tell the Hillary campaign that the need for coverage now outweighs the risk of her screwing up. The timing is very specific here with Sanders getting within 8 and Webb joining the fray. Hillary has really squandered 3-4 months of press surrounding her, it's crazy if you look at it. I'm sure the interviews and questions will be very carefully managed though.

To the point where it's pointless to even do the interviews.....yep.

 

[squistion]

My guess is the numbers from polling now tell the Hillary campaign that the need for coverage now outweighs the risk of her screwing up. The timing is very specific here with Sanders getting within 8 and Webb joining the fray. Hillary has really squandered 3-4 months of press surrounding her, it's crazy if you look at it.

It really isn't, but carry on.

And the details of the first interview have been announced:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/politics/hillary-clinton-tv-interview-july/

Hillary Clinton to give first national TV interview to CNN

The full interview with Hillary Clinton will air Tuesday on CNN's "The Situation Room" at 5 p.m. EDT and again on "Anderson Cooper 360" at 8 p.m. EDT.

Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton on Tuesday will give the first nationally televised interview of her presidential campaign to CNN senior political correspondent Brianna Keilar.

 

[dhockster]

Any time table for her Foxnews interview?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

What a trip, I was going to say hey good link but hilariously of course it took 5 seconds to determine that Keilar, who is doing the interview, attended the wedding of the Ready For Hillary co-founder and the campaign's grassroots manager. Seems they're old buddies. Pics included.

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/press-parties-clinton-aide-weekend-wedding_975737.html

 

[Sam Quentin]

What a trip, I was going to say hey good link but hilariously of course it took 5 seconds to determine that Keilar, who is doing the interview, attended the wedding of the Ready For Hillary co-founder and the campaign's grassroots manager. Seems they're old buddies. Pics included.

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/press-parties-clinton-aide-weekend-wedding_975737.html

I wonder if the Clinton fund is paying her on the side...

Either way...scripted and safe....

 

[Todd Andrews]

Hillary is a neocon

 

[larch]

My guess is the numbers from polling now tell the Hillary campaign that the need for coverage now outweighs the risk of her screwing up. The timing is very specific here with Sanders getting within 8 and Webb joining the fray. Hillary has really squandered 3-4 months of press surrounding her, it's crazy if you look at it.

It really isn't, but carry on.

And the details of the first interview have been announced:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/politics/hillary-clinton-tv-interview-july/

Hillary Clinton to give first national TV interview to CNN

The full interview with Hillary Clinton will air Tuesday on CNN's "The Situation Room" at 5 p.m. EDT and again on "Anderson Cooper 360" at 8 p.m. EDT.

Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton on Tuesday will give the first nationally televised interview of her presidential campaign to CNN senior political correspondent Brianna Keilar.

Is the favorite ice cream question ready to go?

 

[Mister CIA]

Hillary is a neocon

I prefer the term turtle.

 

[Rove!]

Hillary is a neocon

I prefer the term turtle.

I prefer monster

 

[squistion]

Hillary is a neocon

I prefer the term turtle.

I prefer monster

Odd, I thought you would prefer either Flapjacks or Brock Middlebrook.

 

[timschochet]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

sounds hard hitting tim

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Only a sycophant could think Hillary came across well in that interview. She flat out lied when discussing the email issue and recycling the vast right wing conspiracy talk is weak. Additionally, she seemed a bit like a human bobblehead during the interview.

 

[BassNBrew]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

If by best candidate you mean most corrupt bought and paid for lacking in charism and genuine beliefs candidate, you would be correct.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

We could break this interview down, I think the most disturbing thing about Hillary, always, is her complete inability to see anything she did, personally, to bring on her troubles. She has brought it all on herself by her own actions. I also find the statement that she did not have to turn over any emails completely disturbing. We are about to elect a president who has absolutely zero respect for transparency and public records. She sees absolutely no component of public responsibility for what she does. It's almost narcissistic or sociopathic, but at its core it's also the essence of corruption, that which is public is viewed as private.

But, I also found Brianna Keilar's comments after the interview remarkable. I looked up some of Keilar's past coverage of Clinton and she has covered stories about Hillary defending a rapist and getting him off by blaming the victim, who was a child. Keilar also previously covered the email story. The interview was obviously scripted, but I am not sure that is all on Keilar, yes she is obviously chummy with the Ready For Hillary cofounder or her grassroots director, or both, enough to get invited to their wedding (I'm guessing it's Kirby Hoag, because frankly they're both hot blondes and they run in packs), but I also think she was constrained by her producer here. I say that because of her comments after the interview:

“No, I didn’t hear a more open or transparent Hillary Clinton,” Keilar said.

Keilar said Clinton was not forthcoming while talking about her primary challenger Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) or the possibility of a dynastic challenge from Jeb Bush. Most notably, Keilar pointed to Clinton’s denial of having a trust deficit with American voters following months of scandals.

"The big issue has to do with her trust. She insists that voters should and do trust her,” Keilar said. “At the same time, we see in our recent poll, nearly six in ten Americans say they don’t find her honest or trustworthy. That’s very significant, credibility so key to leadership.”

http://freebeacon.com/politics/keilar-blasts-clintons-interview-performance-i-did-not-hear-a-more-open-or-transparent-hillary-clinton/

Here's Keilar after the interview:

http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=92335&siteSection=freebeacon_hom_non_non_dynamic&videoId=29338888

You don't see that too much where the interviewer basically defends herself by saying the interviewee was not forthcoming or honest. As she points out the email and Foundation issues are "self-inflicted", that's really something and also indicates to me that Keilar was instructed to not do followups. I'm guessing CNN agreed to certain conditions with the campaign in order to "score" this interview.

 

[The Commish]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

Thanks Stat

 

[Sam Quentin]

Reminds of when Dole and McCain were running and partisans were overjoyed when their candidate didn't poop all over themselves; sitting there like nervous parents at a 3rd grade play hoping they say their well rehearsed lines correctly....

 

[IvanKaramazov]

If Hillary was able to win over an ardent skeptic like tim, she clearly did a great job.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

A Transcript of All Hillary Clinton’s Non-Answers in Her First Cable TV Interview of the Race...Keilar asked the former secretary of state a number of pressing questions on everything from whether she understood why so many Americans don’t trust her to whether she’s in favor of Bernie Sanders-style tax hikes. In response, though, Clinton opted for anodyne answers and talking points that offered little in the way of actual information. The closest she came to making news was saying she was “very disappointed” in Donald Trump (shocker!) and that she thinks whichever woman ends up on an American greenback shouldn’t have to share it with a man. All candidates dodge questions they don’t want to answer, but this was another reminder that Clinton has perfected the art of only making news when she wants to. To steal a turn of phrase from my former colleague Jack Shafer, she’s not running for president, she’s running as president.
You can watch Clinton’s lengthy interview over on CNN, but to truly appreciate just how little of note was said, below you’ll find a heavily edited transcript of the interview. I’ve cut out as many of the unrelated talking points and as much of the throat clearing and filler as possible. What little is left—mostly non- and half-answers—is telling. (Actual answers to the question that was asked are in bold.)

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KEILAR: You're the front-runner in this state but we're also seeing Bernie Sanders attract a lot of attention. … Why is it, do you think, that someone who is a self-described Democratic socialist is really attracting this organic interest that your campaign seems to be struggling a little bit with?
CLINTON: … I am happy to have a chance to get out and run my campaign as I see fit and let other candidates do exactly the same. …
KEILAR: Senator Sanders has talked about how, if he's president, he would raise taxes. … Would you?
CLINTON: I will be laying out my own economic policies. …
KEILAR: … Is raising taxes on the table?
CLINTON: … I will be making a speech about my economic proposals on Monday. …
KEILAR: … We see in our recent poll that nearly six in 10 Americans say they don't believe that you're honest and trustworthy. Do you understand why they feel that way?
CLINTON: Well, I think when you are subjected to the kind of constant barrage of attacks that are largely fomented by and coming from the right and --
KEILAR: But do you bear any responsibility for that?
CLINTON: Well, you know, I can only tell you that I was elected twice in New York against the same kind of onslaught. … I think it's understandable that when questions are raised people maybe are thinking about them and wondering about them. ...
KEILAR: Trusting someone to fight for them and trusting someone—these are two different things. Do you see any role that you've had in the sentiment that we've seen, where people are questioning whether you're trustworthy?
CLINTON: I can only tell you, Brianna, that this has been a theme that has been used against me and my husband for many, many years. …
KEILAR: Would you vote for someone that you don't trust?
CLINTON: Well, people should and do trust me. …
KEILAR: One of the issues that has eroded some trust that we've seen is the issue of your email practices while you were secretary of state. … Can you tell me the story of how you decided to delete 33,000 emails and how that deletion was executed?
CLINTON: Well, let's start from the beginning. Everything I did was permitted. There was no law. There was no regulation. There was nothing that did not give me the full authority to decide how I was going to communicate. …
KEILAR: I know you say you were permitted. I just am trying to understand some of the thought process behind it. One former state attorney general, a Democrat, told CNN that they know of no lawyer who would advise someone, a client, facing the kind of scrutiny that you've been facing to wipe their server. I mean, what do you say to that?
CLINTON: Well, what I say to that is I turned over everything I was obligated to turn over. And then I moved on. …
KEILAR: There has been a lot of controversy surrounding your family's foundation, The Clinton Foundation, corporate and foreign donations that have gone to the foundation and the work that it does. Has it made you think, seeing this controversy, that it's come about, has it made you think about if you are president, what will happen to The Clinton Foundation? Have you thought about perhaps shutting it down?
CLINTON: … I have no plans to say or do anything about The Clinton Foundation other than to say how proud I am of it and that I think for the good of the world, its work should continue.
KEILAR: Let's talk now about Republicans. … Right now the front-runner is Jeb Bush. Can you believe that a quarter century after your husband was elected, there could be another Bush-Clinton race?
CLINTON: … What's great about America is anybody can run for president. That is literally true. ...
KEILAR: Donald Trump is also creating quite a lot of commotion on the other side. ... What's your reaction to his recent comments that some Mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals?
CLINTON: I'm very disappointed in those comments and I feel very bad and very disappointed with him and with the Republican Party for not responding immediately and saying, enough, stop it. But they are all in the same general area on immigration. They don't want to provide a path to citizenship. They range across a spectrum of being either grudgingly welcome or hostile toward immigrants. …
KEILAR: But what about Jeb Bush's approach to that? It's different, certainly, than Donald Trump's.
CLINTON: Well, he doesn't believe in a path to citizenship. If he did at one time, he no longer does. …
KEILAR: Last week an undocumented immigrant who had been deported five times killed a 32-year-old woman, Kate Steinle, in San Francisco, a sanctuary city where local law enforcement does not enforce federal immigration laws. When you last ran for president you supported sanctuary cities. In light of this terrible incident, does that change anything about your view on this?
CLINTON: Well, what should be done is any city should listen to the Department of Homeland Security, which as I understand it, urged them to deport this man again after he got out of prison another time. ... So I have absolutely no support for a city that ignores the strong evidence that should be acted on. However, there are [exceptions]—like if it were a first-time traffic citation, if it were something minor, a misdemeanor, that's entirely different. This man had already been deported five times and he should have been deported at the request of the federal government.
...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/07/07/hillary_clinton_cnn_interview_a_heavily_edited_transcript_of_the_first_national.html

The bolding is original by Slate ("but to truly appreciate just how little of note was said, below you’ll find a heavily edited transcript of the interview. I’ve cut out as many of the unrelated talking points and as much of the throat clearing and filler as possible. What little is left—mostly non- and half-answers—is telling. ... Actual answers to the question that was asked are in bold.").

 

[Soonerman]

We have never had a president that was prone to the "crazy eyes" since the television era began. I think that will be a huge accomplishment if she can overcome that.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Hillary I love:

• CLINTON: "...Everything I did was permitted. There was no law. There was no regulation."
• [Moments later] "CLINTON: Well, what I say to that is I turned over everything I was obligated to turn over. And then I moved on. …"

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

We have never had a president that was prone to the "crazy eyes" since the television era began. I think that will be a huge accomplishment if she can overcome that.

Richard Nixon, 1960. He may have had the beady-eye problem, but you know, the eyes.

 

[The Commish]

The Hillary I love:

• CLINTON: "...Everything I did was permitted. There was no law. There was no regulation."
• [Moments later] "CLINTON: Well, what I say to that is I turned over everything I was obligated to turn over. And then I moved on. …"

Well, except the stuff she didn't.....that was discovered when Blumenthal of all people turned over his side of the conversations Why don't people trust you again Hillary??

 

[timschochet]

Saints, that transcript you posted was edited to make her look much worse than she actually did. I thought she answered the email question, for example, just fine.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Saints, that transcript you posted was edited to make her look much worse than she actually did. I thought she answered the email question, for example, just fine.

Tim I highlighted that fact, go back and read what the author said.

 

[timschochet]

Saints, that transcript you posted was edited to make her look much worse than she actually did. I thought she answered the email question, for example, just fine.

Tim I highlighted that fact, go back and read what the author said.

I did. But I don't know why he wrote it or why you posted it.

 

[timschochet]

The most important part of the interview, the part that's going to get her elected President, was when she pointed out that Jeb Bush was not in favor of a Path to Citizenship.

The GOP moderates on this issue, mainly Bush and Rubio, are trapped. They MUST attract a higher percentage of the Latino vote to win Florida or they're ####ed. But they have to avoid alienating the conservative base. So they've played a word game on this issue, talking about immigration reform, avoiding Path to Citizenship, and hoping that either Bush's language skills and Latina wife or Ribio's direct ancestry will be enough to make inroads in the general election. Then along comes Trump with his idiocy, and that allowed Hillary to blow it all up. Prediction: she's going to capture a higher percentage of Latino votes than any candidate in history.

 

[The Commish]

The most important part of the interview, the part that's going to get her elected President, was when she pointed out that Jeb Bush was not in favor of a Path to Citizenship.

The GOP moderates on this issue, mainly Bush and Rubio, are trapped. They MUST attract a higher percentage of the Latino vote to win Florida or they're ####ed. But they have to avoid alienating the conservative base. So they've played a word game on this issue, talking about immigration reform, avoiding Path to Citizenship, and hoping that either Bush's language skills and Latina wife or Ribio's direct ancestry will be enough to make inroads in the general election. Then along comes Trump with his idiocy, and that allowed Hillary to blow it all up. Prediction: she's going to capture a higher percentage of Latino votes than any candidate in history.

They are as "trapped" as Hillary is. They can just say whatever they want depending on the audience. Most of each "base" doesn't really care....they'll blindly throw their vote to the party. You know....the status quo and all.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

Thanks Stat

Theres the Tim we all know best....

 

[timschochet]

The most important part of the interview, the part that's going to get her elected President, was when she pointed out that Jeb Bush was not in favor of a Path to Citizenship.

The GOP moderates on this issue, mainly Bush and Rubio, are trapped. They MUST attract a higher percentage of the Latino vote to win Florida or they're ####ed. But they have to avoid alienating the conservative base. So they've played a word game on this issue, talking about immigration reform, avoiding Path to Citizenship, and hoping that either Bush's language skills and Latina wife or Ribio's direct ancestry will be enough to make inroads in the general election. Then along comes Trump with his idiocy, and that allowed Hillary to blow it all up. Prediction: she's going to capture a higher percentage of Latino votes than any candidate in history.

They are as "trapped" as Hillary is. They can just say whatever they want depending on the audience. Most of each "base" doesn't really care....they'll blindly throw their vote to the party. You know....the status quo and all.

They need to win the nomination and at the same time avoid pissing off Latino voters. Therein lies the trap.

 

[timschochet]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

Thanks Stat

Theres the Tim we all know best....

I am offering my honest opinion. If I thought she had performed badly I would have said so. I've been pretty critical of Hillary in the past.

 

[Boston]

The most important part of the interview, the part that's going to get her elected President, was when she pointed out that Jeb Bush was not in favor of a Path to Citizenship.

The GOP moderates on this issue, mainly Bush and Rubio, are trapped. They MUST attract a higher percentage of the Latino vote to win Florida or they're ####ed. But they have to avoid alienating the conservative base. So they've played a word game on this issue, talking about immigration reform, avoiding Path to Citizenship, and hoping that either Bush's language skills and Latina wife or Ribio's direct ancestry will be enough to make inroads in the general election. Then along comes Trump with his idiocy, and that allowed Hillary to blow it all up. Prediction: she's going to capture a higher percentage of Latino votes than any candidate in history.

Since you believe Trump is hurting the GOP does a socialist getting some love hurt the dems?

 

[Stinger Ray]

Hillary hit it out of the park in her CNN interview. Expressed her disappointment in Trump and Bush, stated her firm support for a Path to Citizenship, put the email story to bed. She was just outstanding. She is far and away the best candidate in either party, not even close at this point.

Thanks Stat

Theres the Tim we all know best....

I've been pretty critical of Hillary in the past.

 

[timschochet]

The most important part of the interview, the part that's going to get her elected President, was when she pointed out that Jeb Bush was not in favor of a Path to Citizenship.

The GOP moderates on this issue, mainly Bush and Rubio, are trapped. They MUST attract a higher percentage of the Latino vote to win Florida or they're ####ed. But they have to avoid alienating the conservative base. So they've played a word game on this issue, talking about immigration reform, avoiding Path to Citizenship, and hoping that either Bush's language skills and Latina wife or Ribio's direct ancestry will be enough to make inroads in the general election. Then along comes Trump with his idiocy, and that allowed Hillary to blow it all up. Prediction: she's going to capture a higher percentage of Latino votes than any candidate in history.

Since you believe Trump is hurting the GOP does a socialist getting some love hurt the dems?

Yes. Not quite as much, since (unfortunately) this country is becoming more populist, but yes it will ultimately hurt Democrats that Sanders is doing well IMO.