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SaintsInDome2006
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This is so far past Benghazi, anything having to do with that is like no. 99 on the list of possibilities.
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SaintsInDome2006
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H/T JONMX
SO HILLARY IS BEING INTERVIEWED THIS WEEKEND.
AND BILL CLINTON JUST *********HAPPENED TO JUMP LYNCH IN PHOENIX.
**************what an unadulterated sick joke it all is.
SO HILLARY IS BEING INTERVIEWED THIS WEEKEND.
AND BILL CLINTON JUST *********HAPPENED TO JUMP LYNCH IN PHOENIX.
**************what an unadulterated sick joke it all is.
bueno
In a class by himself
bueno
In a class by himself
Article II Section 4: The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
Article I Section 3: Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.
Nothing in the Constitution seems to prohibit it. There is an Attorney General opinion in 2000(?) that states the President should have immunity from prosecution once they leave office. It doesn't seem to apply to other civil officers though.
SaintsInDome2006
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The Commish
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Calm down guys....just a coincidence....nothing to see here 
MaxThreshold
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How anyone can defend the Clintons anymore is beyond me. The trail deceit, underhandedness, lying and overall shadiness should have turned people off LONG ago.
These two are like a bad fish smell that just won't go away.
These two are like a bad fish smell that just won't go away.
MaxThreshold
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SaintsInDome2006
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Coincidence like the STINK from a pile of dog */*/ is coincidence.Calm down guys....just a coincidence....nothing to see here
timschochet
Footballguy
I don't get it. Is there something new here?
timschochet
Footballguy
#### this. I am so sick to death of this ####.
Hey Saints. Loretta Lynch is a career public service with a long record of personal integrity. Over the past few days she has stated several times that she did not discuss the Hillary email investigation with Bill Clinton. Is she lying? Yes or no? If you think she's lying just come out and say it.
timschochet
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Sand
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Actually she probably isn't. But she should know better than to enter the Clinton world at all. That stink is hard to wash out.
timschochet
Footballguy
If she's not lying, then what the hell are you talking about? She says they talked about grandchildren. What "stink" is there, unless she is lying? Please explain.
ArbyMelt
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Probably not. But she is a complete moron to hold this secret meeting with Clinton. How can someone in her position be that stupid?
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ericttspikes
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All those in the bubble of Clintonhate expect the entire world to be on the same DefCon 5 freakout as they are. "Why would anyone so smart TALK to a Clinton."
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Yes, I think she's lying. Did they discuss grandchildren and golf? Maybe. But I don't think for minute that was the purpose, or all, they talked about.
timschochet
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I think she's lying. There's no chance it didn't come up during their conversation.
SaintsInDome2006
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This is so incredibly stupid - and please forgive me because I am usually as polite as all get out here:All those in the bubble of Clintonhate expect the entire world to be on the same DefCon 5 freakout as they are. "Why would anyone so smart TALK to a Clinton."
- BUT BILL CLINTON MET WITH LORETTA LYNCH PRIOR TO THE DOJ / FBI INTERVIEWING HILLARY.
They didn't (just) talk about grandkids.
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SaintsInDome2006
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Really, Hillary should watch out because I am sure the career FBI guys are pissed off about Bill's ambush of Lynch. The only one as pissed might be Hillary herself.
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timschochet
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SaintsInDome2006
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You should be sick of it, this is what the Clintons do.
All they had to do was keep their nose clean. That's it.
Bill is an impulsive SOB, he really is, he could not help himself. The man has a problem, a serious emotional issue.
As for your last point - yes, hence the need for her to come out and promise that she was handing the decision over to non-appointees. Why do that if it's not necessary and if she is so upstanding?
Loretta Lynch has compromised herself, yes I'm disappointed.
SaintsInDome2006
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^^^Has personally expressed boredom and purposeful ignorance of the subject he's discussing^^^
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SaintsInDome2006
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Quote back her statements to me.
Then admit that she did not disclose the meeting herself, and that only happened from being 1. found out despite the event being in a private hangar, and 2. the reporter raising it to her in the presser.
timschochet
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Neither has anything to do with my question.
You believe that Loretta Lynch, a longtime public servant who is known and respected throughout Washington for her personal integrity, lied in order to protect Bill and Hillary Clinton. I suggest this says a lot more about you, and anyone who agrees with you, than it does about Ms. Lynch or the Clintons.
SaintsInDome2006
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timschochet
Footballguy
Not discussing the meeting until a reporter asked her about it has nothing to do with whether or not she lied regarding the content of discussion during the meeting.
Blick
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timschochet
Footballguy
What's unfortunate about this is that it appears that Loretta Lynch's reputation is going to be tarnished, not by anything she did wrong, not by any lies she told, but because the Clinton haters can't handle the fact that she's not going to be indicted and so feel the need to accuse everyone in sight of impropriety. It's sad and pathetic.
The Commish
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not for nothing, but that's not how DefCon works....fyiAll those in the bubble of Clintonhate expect the entire world to be on the same DefCon 5 freakout as they are. "Why would anyone so smart TALK to a Clinton."
timschochet
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No. She said it didn't come up. Not that it came up and she shut him down, but that it didn't come up.
So is she lying? Yes or no?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Like hell it doesn't. People may have never learned of it, she did not even know that the reporter or anyone of it until that moment. That's mayeb teh most damning part about it.
As for her words:
- Really thanks for the update.
True, I'm sure.
Oh, great deal about the grandkids and primarily about travels. Sure, ok.
Sure, I believe that.
They didn't discuss emails. Sure ok. The rest of the stuff doesn't matter.
Did they discuss the interview? She didn't say, but we both absolutely know they knew the interview was scheduled at that time, and she didn't say they did not discuss the interview.
And even if they didn't discuss the interview, Clinton establishing good will with Lynch - and her letting him try - was inappropriate.
The Commish
Footballguy
Comes with defending the Clintons at every turn. They artfully walk the line, crossing in some places, not in others. They know exactly what they're doing. Your frustration seems to be that you don't know what they're doing so in an effort to "win" you defend at all costs. It has to be exhausting. Not sure what you get out of it honestly. This is an uphill climb both ways in 15 feet of snow and rather than use a standard level of "evidence" like everyone else, you use "indictment or nothing happened" as your standard effectively throwing another 100 lbs in your backpack while on the trek.
SaintsInDome2006
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Absolutely, she's compromised herself. It's a shame. She should resign. I don't usually say stuff like that but she should. That presser today was a disaster too considering the DOJ immediately walked it back.
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When you feel around on an issue you don't necessarily bring it up directly. Slick willy is pretty smooth and he knows how to test the waters.
timschochet
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See, you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to be able to impugn Bill Clinton without impugning Loretta Lynch. That won't fly. Either there was no impropriety, no bad behavior here, or she is a liar.jon_mx said:
The Commish
Footballguy
FWIW....I don't think this is a big deal for the two to meet. The cover up is worse than the crime IMO. I don't have a problem with Lynch talking to Bill. What's comical is they just "happen" to run into each other in a private hanger. That's the first thing. The second is, there is NO WAY Bill didn't bring it up....none. Did Lynch shut him down? I'd like to think so
End the end, this is just another example of poor judgment and lack of character by the Clintons. It doesn't matter if they discussed Hillary or not. It completely lacks in self awareness on Bill's part. Not much more to it than that.
End the end, this is just another example of poor judgment and lack of character by the Clintons. It doesn't matter if they discussed Hillary or not. It completely lacks in self awareness on Bill's part. Not much more to it than that.
Why? As usual your logic is poor. Of course Lynch could be a victim of Bill's scheme to try to influence her. She just might have been a bit naive or too nice or just intimidated to say no to a former president of the US.
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SaintsInDome2006
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Hey you know what - maybe Bill just said "Thank you" because the decision is already in, so now Lynch can claim to step out of the decision. Too late. The DOJ has already said she's in. What a snafu of mammoth proportions.
And you know what I really can't stand Trump. You fools who have been pushing this Dynamic Duo of Hillary and Bill who so often are so brilliant yet can't shoot straight at the most crucial times have really set up a situation where when the 'no indict' situation comes out Donald's claim that everything is "FIXED" will have a big fact blinking neon sign behind him shouting "He's Right" for anyone who can read. Really congratulations.
And you know what I really can't stand Trump. You fools who have been pushing this Dynamic Duo of Hillary and Bill who so often are so brilliant yet can't shoot straight at the most crucial times have really set up a situation where when the 'no indict' situation comes out Donald's claim that everything is "FIXED" will have a big fact blinking neon sign behind him shouting "He's Right" for anyone who can read. Really congratulations.
SaintsInDome2006
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The Commish
Footballguy
ah shucks!
ETA: Hillary and Bill are really a weak spot for me. Few topics where I start with the "you're guilty until you prove otherwise", but they are one of them. They've earned it from my perspective. There was a time in the early 90s where I was drinking the cool-aid....then the actions and words started contradicting each other causing my spidey senses to tingle....been downhill ever since.
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The Clinton's have balls, you have to give them that. They really don't care how bad a situation might appear, if they believe they will benefit from an action, they do it, as long as they have some legal grey area or loophole where they can get away with it.
dparker713
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The interview is regarding the emails. So either they didn't discuss the emails or they did.SaintsInDome2006 said:
And Bill doesn't need to establish good will - it's long standing.
dparker713
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Someone needs to take a deep breath.SaintsInDome2006 said:
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