Official Hillary Clinton 2016 thread (3 Viewers)

[Sinn Fein]

No intentional misconduct

Yeah, right...

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

No intentional mis conduct

Excluding other statutes then, that should make things easy. Pretty much a redesigned outcome if that's the case. That's definitely the way to do it.

 

[cobalt_27]

Any reasonable person should have known unclassified system not good.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Evidence Hillary was extremely careless in handling classified info. 

That should be a problem for her as well.

 

[McGarnicle]

Any reasonable person in Hillary's position should've known an unclassified system was no place for these emails.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

 

Dustin Volz Verified account ‏@dnvolz


Comey: There is evidence Clinton was "extremely careless" in handling highly classified info, despite no intent to violate laws

- That SHOULD BE your negligence charge.

But it's not.

 

[Phil Elliott]

We know pretty much everything he is saying.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Any reasonable person in Hillary's position should've known an unclassified system was no place for these emails.

That's sec. 1924/793 negligence.

 

[Plorfu]

Gmail is the preferred commercial email of the FBI.

 

[McGarnicle]

This seems pretty damning imo. Even if no evidence of criminal intent, the FBI is confirming this was extremely poor judgment on Hillary's part. 

 

[cobalt_27]

Recommendation:  No prosecution

 

[timschochet]

That should be a problem for her as well.

And it will be. It's up to the voters to determine if this issue is disqualifying. 

 

[Phil Elliott]

 

[PIK95]

Why hack when they could just figure out her login? Lol

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And it will be. It's up to the voters to determine if this issue is disqualifying. 

Right before Obama meets Hillary.

No time pressure or political calculation my ***.

 

[Parrothead]

she should lose security clearance..

 

[cobalt_27]

So she gets off criminally but looks like crap in the process.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I think most people are dug into their corners and believe what they want to believe.

If Clinton supporters cared, they had Enough information to form a decision.  They don't care. 

I look at them as rubes every bit the equal of trump supporters 

 

[bleachercreacher]

This country is unreal

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And it will be. It's up to the voters to determine if this issue is disqualifying. 

she should lose security clearance..

More like, if you can't get a security clearance you shouldn't be president.

 

[cobalt_27]

Good presser by Comey.  Regardless of outcome.  This is strong.

 

[Sand]

I will say that Comey is doing a heck of a job explaining himself here.

 

[Phil Elliott]

"very bad judgement...but no indictment"...what a joke.

Obamacare mandate "its a tax but its not a tax"...they must have had something on Comey!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Why hack when they could just figure out her login? Lol

They didn't even need to hack. Electronic eavesdropping would do it.

 

[cobalt_27]

I will say that Comey is doing a heck of a job explaining himself here.

Exceptional

 

[PIK95]

This FBI guy should run for president.  Very impressive.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Good presser by Comey.  Regardless of outcome.  This is strong.

He needs to take care of his own business and his own rep.

 

[Sand]

More like, if you can't get a security clearance you shouldn't be president.

Yeah - Congress and POTUS don't need clearances.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

As far as I'm concerned the findings of "extreme carelessness" merit a sec. 1924 or 793 charge - it's purely a top of the DOJ decision not to bring the indictment.

 

[flapgreen]

He needs to take care of his own business and his own rep.

Oh shut it lemming 

 

[flapgreen]

Hilary looks like garbage 

 

[whoknew]

As far as I'm concerned the findings of "extreme carelessness" merit a sec. 1924 charge - it's purely a top of the DOJ decision not to bring the indictment.

Do you believe him that in similar situations, usually charges are not brought? 

 

[Aerial Assault]

Byyyyyyyyye bye Indictment Fairy!   Aw.  I bet some regulars in this thread have a sad. :(    

And now, let’s get back to the important issues, like how the do-nothing Republicans have done their best to ruin the country.  

 

[timschochet]

And once again Fox News, Sean Hannity, and Judge Andrew Napolitano look like total idiots. For months they have been swearing up and down that there would be indictments for sure, that they had "solid" inside sources.

 

[McGarnicle]

And it will be. It's up to the voters to determine if this issue is disqualifying. 

Tim, how is it not disqualifying? She was the damn Secretary of State and left classified info vulnerable to being hacked. It's the most careless, stupid, reckless, irresponible thing that someone in her position could do.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Do you believe him that in similar situations, usually charges are not brought? 

Yeah if Comey says it I believe it. Doesn't change the fact the statute was violated. (And fwiw I think it's 793, not 1924).

 

[Parrothead]

Bill's meeting worked

 

[Jayrod]

And once again Fox News, Sean Hannity, and Judge Andrew Napolitano look like total idiots. For months they have been swearing up and down that there would be indictments for sure, that they had "solid" inside sources.

Congrats?

She's still a crappy Presidential candidate and its BS that our country couldn't come up with anything better.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And once again Fox News, Sean Hannity, and Judge Andrew Napolitano look like total idiots. For months they have been swearing up and down that there would be indictments for sure, that they had "solid" inside sources.

I haven't followed or posted on Napolitano but this is exactly the sort of thing he was talking about IIRC, leaks, but in this situation Comey's come right out and said it.

 

[whoknew]

Yeah if Comey says it I believe it. Doesn't change the fact the statute was violated. (And fwiw I think it's 793, not 1924).

I see. So you think everyone who violates this statute should be indicted. Fair enough.

I tend to agree with Comey (ugh) that smallish, unintentional violations should be punished internally and not through charges. But I can understand disagreement on that.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Byyyyyyyyye bye Indictment Fairy!   Aw.  I bet some regulars in this thread have a sad. :(    

And now, let’s get back to the important issues, like how the do-nothing Republicans have done their best to ruin the country.  

I don't know what you're crowing about here.  I think most of us knew she would NOT be indicted, but this conference did her no favors and made her look very bad.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Oh shut it lemming 

Well gosh all Trump has to do is 1. understand the issue and 2. enunciate it. Gee that should be eeassssyyy.

 

[pantagrapher]

Yeah but what about Whitewater?

 

[timschochet]

Tim, how is it not disqualifying? She was the damn Secretary of State and left classified info vulnerable to being hacked. It's the most careless, stupid, reckless, irresponible thing that someone in her position could do.

If you believe it is disqualifying, we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think it was a wise decision, but it's not for me a momentous one. That would be true even if she were running against a less dangerous, more competent opponent. But the fact that she is running against Donald Trump makes this doubly so IMO. 

 

[Mister CIA]

Hillary's best attribute remains unchanged, she is not Trump.

 

[Phil Elliott]

  "I didn't intend to drive 10 mph over the limit."  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I see. So you think everyone who violates this statute should be indicted. Fair enough.

I tend to agree with Comey (ugh) that smallish, unintentional violations should be punished internally and not through charges. But I can understand disagreement on that.

I think I understand why the government does not enforce the statute - because they don't want this stuff challenged in court.

I will wait to see Comey's transcript. I just asked that he address the negligence issue, he has and I'm very happy with that. To me that vindicates what a lot of us have been posting. I agree that if the DOJ does not file charges on 793 as a matter of practice then that takes it out of the political realm. However as said it does sound like she broke the law, just not a law that's typically prosecuted.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

so, when's the first debate? should be dreadfully awkward when Trump bangs away on this embarrassment.

 

[Apple Jack]

Tim, how is it not disqualifying? She was the damn Secretary of State and left classified info vulnerable to being hacked. It's the most careless, stupid, reckless, irresponible thing that someone in her position could do.

Well, let's not get carried away, it's not like she went full Condi and put her weight behind supporting something as lethally reckless and bogus as the Iraq invasion. Er.

Still....Shrill >>>>>>>>>>> Cheeto Jesus in just about every conceivable way.

 

[ArbyMelt]

I think this is good news for Trump. He has a chance against Hillary. If she was indicted and Joe Biden runs, he loses in a landslide.