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Apparently, one of the people in her entourage may be a neurologist...
I'd be happy knowing what meds they both take and which doctors they both see. The letter from Trump's physician is as ridiculous as his letter from his accountant about his taxes, actually more ridiculous. And considering Trump lied about his medical condition in the 70s why wouldn't he be lying now? Just hold them to the same standard. Personally I'd like to see Trump get an independent psych exam.

 
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Totally agree, 41% of American voters supporting Trump is ridiculous.  We're better than this, people.  Let's get it together.
TBH if Hillary got >50 & Donald <40 when all is said and done it would not surprise me. Actually the Indy/3rd party vote should be quite large and IMO Hillary's challenge right now is to get to 50 herself.

 
TBH if Hillary got >50 & Donald <40 when all is said and done it would not surprise me. Actually the Indy/3rd party vote should be quite large and IMO Hillary's challenge right now is to get to 50 herself.
The debates will likely widen the gap further too. If Trump shows up that is. This is unfolding as a beatdown of epic proportions.

 
Hillary up 51-41.

This is ridiculous, might as well start talking cabinet names.
Totally agree, 41% of American voters supporting Trump is ridiculous.  We're better than this, people.  Let's get it together.
It'd be interesting to do analysis of the "vote FOR Trump" part of that number and the "vote AGAINST Hillary" part of that number.  I'm as pessimistic as the next guy when it comes to the electorate, but couple this factor with the way they do polls (yes been reading a little bit about the methodology and I really have no idea why they even do the polls this way anymore) and I'm skeptical all around that we can begin to take any of these numbers at face value.  I'm not sure they are telling us what we think they are. :oldunsure:  

 
It'd be interesting to do analysis of the "vote FOR Trump" part of that number and the "vote AGAINST Hillary" part of that number.  I'm as pessimistic as the next guy when it comes to the electorate, but couple this factor with the way they do polls (yes been reading a little bit about the methodology and I really have no idea why they even do the polls this way anymore) and I'm skeptical all around that we can begin to take any of these numbers at face value.  I'm not sure they are telling us what we think they are. :oldunsure:  
The CNN polls do this (4th paragraph). I think some others do too.

 
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:lmao:

Hillary has the support of the father of the Orlando shooter her murdered 49 gay people in the name of Islam, he was even center stage at her rally.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=9GvCeEpnXxA

Her campaigning gets better each day.

Could you imagine the outrage if Dylan Roof's family showed up at a Trump rally?
So, the father is guilty also? Guilt by association? It is surprising that he was in that position. The Clinton campaign had to know who he was, because I think those are assigned seats.

 
It'd be interesting to do analysis of the "vote FOR Trump" part of that number and the "vote AGAINST Hillary" part of that number.  I'm as pessimistic as the next guy when it comes to the electorate, but couple this factor with the way they do polls (yes been reading a little bit about the methodology and I really have no idea why they even do the polls this way anymore) and I'm skeptical all around that we can begin to take any of these numbers at face value.  I'm not sure they are telling us what we think they are. :oldunsure:  
The CNN polls do this (4th paragraph). I think some others do too.
ouch

thanks....Now I'm sorry I asked.  Dare I ask if we can find this sort of number for past elections?

 
ouch

thanks....Now I'm sorry I asked.  Dare I ask if we can find this sort of number for past elections?
:shrug:

I'm not sure how much historical comparisons would really tell us anyway.  Lots of other variables might change this kind of secondary question, for example whether there's an incumbent or someone closely linked to the incumbent (say a VP) in the race.  I think it's probably safe to assume these are pretty high numbers of "against" voters, though.

 
It'd be interesting to do analysis of the "vote FOR Trump" part of that number and the "vote AGAINST Hillary" part of that number.  I'm as pessimistic as the next guy when it comes to the electorate, but couple this factor with the way they do polls (yes been reading a little bit about the methodology and I really have no idea why they even do the polls this way anymore) and I'm skeptical all around that we can begin to take any of these numbers at face value.  I'm not sure they are telling us what we think they are. :oldunsure:  
Well, 3rd/4th/5th party vote should give us an indication. If they track higher in this election there could be a correllation, at least to "Against both"

 
:lol:  at Trumpettes making health an issue. Trump looks like they slapped some orange paint on a bloated corpse that floated on shore. Pretty certain he's wearing a girdle and a manziere under that suit. The hair, the expanding waddle and jowls. Not good.

 
:lol:  at Trumpettes making health an issue. Trump looks like they slapped some orange paint on a bloated corpse that floated on shore. Pretty certain he's wearing a girdle and a manziere under that suit. The hair, the expanding waddle and jowls. Not good.
I dunno. Back in the day he was a pretty fit and athletic guy: link

ETA:  Vine version, sans Jon Stewart, for your internet use and enjoyment

 
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:shrug:

I'm not sure how much historical comparisons would really tell us anyway.  Lots of other variables might change this kind of secondary question, for example whether there's an incumbent or someone closely linked to the incumbent (say a VP) in the race.  I think it's probably safe to assume these are pretty high numbers of "against" voters, though.
good point.

 
:lol:  at Trumpettes making health an issue. Trump looks like they slapped some orange paint on a bloated corpse that floated on shore. Pretty certain he's wearing a girdle and a manziere under that suit. The hair, the expanding waddle and jowls. Not good.
Yeah, well, where else can they possibly go? Policy, experience, temperament, knowledge, intelligence, etc are all yuuuuuge losers for Cheeto Jesus...

 
Well, 3rd/4th/5th party vote should give us an indication. If they track higher in this election there could be a correllation, at least to "Against both"
Given the "wasting your vote" and "lesser of two evils" being ingrained in us by the establishment types, I'd think we'd have to get to 10ish %, or more to make this a sign.  People still believe those philosophies.  

 
The CNN polls do this (4th paragraph). I think some others do too.


Further, a majority of Clinton's backers now say their vote is more to show support for her than to oppose Trump, a sharp shift since early May. Back then, 48% said their vote was one of support for the former secretary of state, 58% say so now. While Trump also improved his numbers on that metric, his voters are more evenly divided, with 47% saying they're backing him to show support and 50% saying it's more to oppose Clinton.
I think this goes with her Fav/Unfav number which improved sharply in the two weeks after the conventions. Trump basically acts as a foil for her, which is best for her. She gets to be the 'good guy'.
 
Is Hillary a Bilderberg assassin who murders everyone in her way to control the New World Order or is she a seizure ridden, feeble old lady who can't walk stairs and eat solid food. Pretty crazy she can do both, she's not Professor Xavier.

 
Clinton's lead keeps growing and I'm not sure the aggregators have caught up with the new polls today yet either.  At 8.7% now.

Not sure what Trump could do to stop the bleeding, but my bet is that his campaign panics and starts more random thrashing rather than anything useful and productive.

Also not clear how much longer Republicans can keep backing this guy, but he's a sinking ship and they're going down with him at this point.

 
what's funny about the Hillary seizure thing: Trump doesn't even buy into it. If he did, you know we'd be hearing about what many people are saying about it.

 
what's funny about the Hillary seizure thing: Trump doesn't even buy into it. If he did, you know we'd be hearing about what many people are saying about it.
He also doesn't have a real campaign. This is the sort of thing that campaigns jump on to make noise and make the other campaign spin their wheels. But Trump has no campaign, so he may make a crack about it or try to make people think there's something wrong with her, but it's nothing substantive like making a demand she release her medical records, if he mentions it he might just forget it the next day.

 
Benghazi - now mixed with e-mails  - it never ends

Patricia Smith and Charles Woods, parents of Sean Smith and Tyrone Woods, filed a lawsuit against Mrs Clinton for wrongful death and defamation.

The suit claims the former secretary of state's use of a private email server contributed to their sons' death.


The parents, who have both spoken out against Mrs Clinton, argue her "'extreme carelessness' in handling confidential and classified information" on her private server may have revealed the location of State Department employees in Libya.
This is a contradictory claim, it makes no sense. The attackers were militia. You can't say 'oh there should have been more security because the risks were known' at the same time you say the mission was a secret. The whole thing is senseless, I do feel for Woods' parents.

 
They don't know the people sitting that close to her? :oldunsure:

In today's day and age that seems impossible.  Should note, that I don't really care one way or the other (if they knew or not) but what's happened to security?  For the town halls they had here in SC, they had hand picked, identity verified people sitting close to the candidates.  That was just a town hall.

 
Yes, because they had soooo much to gain by having him seated prominently behind her, it obviously was planned in advance for maximum exposure.
I'm with your overall snooty reply here, seriously I doubt they would want him anywhere near there and I also offer up the horror story of just imaging had he been there with let's just say other motives than cheering her on. Could have been a total disaster. 

As it stands, Fox News can make it look like Nightmare on Hilary Street all they like but I don't see it doing a lot of damage unless Trump can make folks think this is a terrorist sympathizer. I'm sure he's working on it. 

 
They don't know the people sitting that close to her? :oldunsure:

In today's day and age that seems impossible.  Should note, that I don't really care one way or the other (if they knew or not) but what's happened to security?  For the town halls they had here in SC, they had hand picked, identity verified people sitting close to the candidates.  That was just a town hall.
I believe a lot of folks have a false sense of security when they are out and about, like someone is either watching from a magic eye in the sky and will intervene. 

 
Joan Walsh@joanwalsh 38m38 minutes ago

 Hey stop hyperventilating over someone Clinton didn't recognize attending her rally and cover this, folks, OK?

Jesse Berney@jesseberney 38m38 minutes ago

 Holy ####, Trump just proposed assassinating Clinton.

Candace SmithVerified account @CandaceSmith_ 51m51 minutes ago

Trump on Clinton: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks." Adds, "Though the second amendment folks, maybe there is..."

 
Cenk UygurVerified account @cenkuygur 23m23 minutes ago

It's over. Trump has to withdraw from race.

His comments about "2nd Amendment people" doing something about Hillary is beyond unacceptable.

 
His candidacy has to be a cooperative effort with the Clintons, right? This is the handing it over on a silver platter moment here.

 
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