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Suddenly there's no more talk about pneumonia. What happened to Hillary being too sick to continue? Where is the body double? 

I wrote that this story would disappear in a week's time, and I was called crazy. 
God performed a miracle on Hillary!  If her recovery from near death isn't proof that she's God's Chosen One I don't know what is.

 
How well does Hilary Clinton know Sir Anthony because it looks like Huma's soon to be ex might just be another Jared Fogle.

Not a good look for Clinton to be so closely associated with him. Child Sexual Predator, where does she stand on this issue? 

 
So the campaign released this....does she really have pneumonia?  Walking pneumonia even?
Her camp says a doctor diagnosed the problem and was treating it/her. We have to believe what they say. 

I think she is suffering some kind of something outside of pneumonia, but with all due respect both candidates keep a schedule right now that would likely make many of us dizzy and ill inside of a week. 

This is what you get when you nominate 2 folks pushing 70. I would not want to have my grandparents serve as President. 

 
How well does Hilary Clinton know Sir Anthony because it looks like Huma's soon to be ex might just be another Jared Fogle.

Not a good look for Clinton to be so closely associated with him. Child Sexual Predator, where does she stand on this issue? 
Kind of weird that Hillary might have associated with a guy who preys on women.  Never saw something like that coming.

 
how could it possibly be worse than the last 2 presidents?  besides,  Dems and the media (but i repeat myself) have been fearmongering Republican nominees since Eisenhower, that tactic is quite transparent.
What was so bad about Obama. Other than him being African American of course.

 
Job Description of the POTUS

The Constitution assigns the president two roles: chief executive of the federal government and Commander in Chief of the armed forces. As Commander in Chief, the president has the authority to send troops into combat, and is the only one who can decide whether to use nuclear weapons.

As chief executive, he enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. He also approves or vetoes acts of Congress and grants pardons.

You will notice that as Chief Executive, he enforces laws.  That would be ALL laws.  He should not "cherry pick".  He develops federal policies.  He does not FORCE them upon the population.  He prepares a budget.  Remember that?

I want a POTUS who fits the Job Description and who will appoint Supreme Court Justices who will follow theirs.  Nothing more....nothing less.

Job Description of a Supreme Court Justice

The Supreme Court has a special role to play in the United States system of government. The Constitution gives it the power to check, if necessary, the actions of the President and Congress.

It can tell a President that his actions are not allowed by the Constitution. It can tell Congress that a law it passed violated the U.S. Constitution and is, therefore, no longer a law. It can also tell the government of a state that one of its laws breaks a rule in the Constitution.

The Supreme Court is the final judge in all cases involving laws of Congress, and the highest law of all — the Constitution.

These have been seriously lacking during the past administration and will be absent and bastardized again in a Clinton administration.

 
That's exactly my argument. The system was setup by people who never wanted to be ruled by one person ever again. 
Would this be fair to say?

Nixon was worst than what Trump is selling and we survived that one. 

ETA: Nixon appointed 4 supreme court justices.

 
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What was so bad about Obama. Other than him being African American of course.
here's a small list:

ramming Obamacare down our throats

sucking up to Iran then the entire Iran nuclear boondoggle

Syria

Libya

ISIS  the jv team

letting a bunch of terrorists go back to terroristing  from Gitmo

lack of border enforcement

fast and furious gun running to mexican cartels

IRS scandal

Veterans admin ongoing scandal

leaving Iraq too soon

 
Great poll here for Clinton from an A rated pollster (Monmouth) in a state that is rapidly becoming very important:

Among Granite State voters likely to participate in November's presidential election, 47% support Clinton and 38% back Trump.  Another 10% intend to vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson, 1% support Green Party candidate Jill Stein, and 3% are currently undecided.
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They also had a poll yesterday showing Clinton with a 5 point lead in Florida, and one the day before showing Trump leading by just 3 in Georgia.  If you're thinking maybe they lean Dem, six days ago they had one showing Trump up 8 in Iowa.  How stupid are the people of Iowa, right?

Anyway, there's a national WSJ/NBC poll coming out this afternoon. If that one shows Clinton back up 4-5 points (I have a weird feeling they might) I think those models that have been showing Trump with momentum might start to go back the other way.

 
Great poll here for Clinton from an A rated pollster (Monmouth) in a state that is rapidly becoming very important:

link

They also had a poll yesterday showing Clinton with a 5 point lead in Florida, and one the day before showing Trump leading by just 3 in Georgia.  If you're thinking maybe they lean Dem, six days ago they had one showing Trump up 8 in Iowa.  How stupid are the people of Iowa, right?

Anyway, there's a national WSJ/NBC poll coming out this afternoon. If that one shows Clinton back up 4-5 points (I have a weird feeling they might) I think those models that have been showing Trump with momentum might start to go back the other way.
Thanks for posting this.  In that poll, it looks like Trump's Sweeping Declaration on the birther issue didn't help him, and might have hurt him a little.  That's comforting.  Also looks like Trump has dragged the Senate race there from what should have been an easy R win down to a real race.  

 
Great poll here for Clinton from an A rated pollster (Monmouth) in a state that is rapidly becoming very important:

link

They also had a poll yesterday showing Clinton with a 5 point lead in Florida, and one the day before showing Trump leading by just 3 in Georgia.  If you're thinking maybe they lean Dem, six days ago they had one showing Trump up 8 in Iowa.  How stupid are the people of Iowa, right?

Anyway, there's a national WSJ/NBC poll coming out this afternoon. If that one shows Clinton back up 4-5 points (I have a weird feeling they might) I think those models that have been showing Trump with momentum might start to go back the other way.
I'm from there and there are a lot of Republicans but I'll believe Trump winning there when it happens.  Republicans have won the state once since 1984 and the was Bush's re-election in 2004.  Clinton, Gore, and Obama all won there.

 
here's a small list:

ramming Obamacare down our throats

sucking up to Iran then the entire Iran nuclear boondoggle

Syria

Libya

ISIS  the jv team

letting a bunch of terrorists go back to terroristing  from Gitmo

lack of border enforcement

fast and furious gun running to mexican cartels

IRS scandal

Veterans admin ongoing scandal

leaving Iraq too soon
Improving health care. Check.

Don't like going into foreign countries but also don't like leaving them too early, continuation of Republican Bush policies. Check.

Releasing illegally held people per our constitution. Check.

Continuation of Republican War on Drugs. Agree with you there.

IRS and VA should be better. VA is due to lack of Republcan funding as you like small government so that's what you get.

Dealing with terrorists...killed Osama bin Laden. Check.

Seems you should be pretty stoked. Oh but that's right. He's black. 

 
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And this one is not so good:

New Marquette Law School Poll finds Clinton leading Trump among likely voters in WI 44% to 42%

In 4-candidate race, among likely voters, it’s Clinton 41%, Trump 38%, Libertarian Gary Johnson 11%, Green Party’s Jill Stein 2%.
In order to win she needs to win Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Hampshire and either two of Wisconsin + Michigan + North Carolina or Florida. Those are the easiest paths to 270 for her.  I'm pretty comfortable with Clinton wins in Pennsylvania and Virginia, but if she's vulnerable in both the Great Lakes states and Florida she's a long way from the point where we can exhale a bit.

 
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here's a small list:

ramming Obamacare down our throats

sucking up to Iran then the entire Iran nuclear boondoggle

Syria

Libya

ISIS  the jv team

letting a bunch of terrorists go back to terroristing  from Gitmo

lack of border enforcement

fast and furious gun running to mexican cartels

IRS scandal

Veterans admin ongoing scandal

leaving Iraq too soon
Nonsense, I'll go into later.

 
It doesn't matter if I or anyone else could imagine Trump in that situation....my opinion is HE wouldn't have been IN that situation
How we feeling about Trump using charity money to pay off debts, buy paintings, and sports memorabilia for his office? 

Think that's behavior that somebody would want to take a look at?

 
Great poll here for Clinton from an A rated pollster (Monmouth) in a state that is rapidly becoming very important:

link

They also had a poll yesterday showing Clinton with a 5 point lead in Florida, and one the day before showing Trump leading by just 3 in Georgia.  If you're thinking maybe they lean Dem, six days ago they had one showing Trump up 8 in Iowa.  How stupid are the people of Iowa, right?

Anyway, there's a national WSJ/NBC poll coming out this afternoon. If that one shows Clinton back up 4-5 points (I have a weird feeling they might) I think those models that have been showing Trump with momentum might start to go back the other way.


"Among Granite State voters likely to participate in November's presidential election, 47% support Clinton and 38% back Trump.  Another 10% intend to vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson, 1% support Green Party candidate Jill Stein, and 3% are currently undecided.

Clinton has the support of 94% of self-identified Democrats while Trump gets the backing of 85% of Republicans.  Clinton edges Trump among the state's sizable bloc of independents by 42% to 35%.

Clinton has the advantage among voters under 50 years old (45% to 35%) as well as those age 50 and older (49% to 41%).  Clinton leads among women (56% to 30%) and voters with a college degree (54% to 31%).  Trump leads among men (47% to 37%) and voters without a college education (47% to 40%)."

These demographics seem to hold consistent with national trends. I hope the fine, reasonable people of New Hampshire serve as a national example in the upcoming election. It would be nice to get the undeducated white guys and their wives on board, but I've taken to just arguing with them. They're not voting Clinton, they didn't vote Obama, so trying to change those ideologies in 7 weeks, it ain't happening, there's no "convincing argument" where they will suddenly switch to voting Hillary. 

 
"Among Granite State voters likely to participate in November's presidential election, 47% support Clinton and 38% back Trump.  Another 10% intend to vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson, 1% support Green Party candidate Jill Stein, and 3% are currently undecided.

Clinton has the support of 94% of self-identified Democrats while Trump gets the backing of 85% of Republicans.  Clinton edges Trump among the state's sizable bloc of independents by 42% to 35%.

Clinton has the advantage among voters under 50 years old (45% to 35%) as well as those age 50 and older (49% to 41%).  Clinton leads among women (56% to 30%) and voters with a college degree (54% to 31%).  Trump leads among men (47% to 37%) and voters without a college education (47% to 40%)."

These demographics seem to hold consistent with national trends. I hope the fine, reasonable people of New Hampshire serve as a national example in the upcoming election. It would be nice to get the undeducated white guys and their wives on board, but I've taken to just arguing with them. They're not voting Clinton, they didn't vote Obama, so trying to change those ideologies in 7 weeks, it ain't happening, there's no "convincing argument" where they will suddenly switch to voting Hillary. 
The key demographic for Clinton at this point is getting the under 30 crowd on board.  They hate Trump but a ton of them are voting third party.  Gotta get out there with Bernie and sell herself to them as someone sympathetic to their concerns.  Explain to them how they'll care a lot about family and medical leave sooner than they think, promise to give Sanders people and ideas a voice in her administration, etc.  History shows that people saying they support third party candidates can be won over late in campaigns, if she can go up a few points with that crowd she'll be in much better shape.

 
How we feeling about Trump using charity money to pay off debts, buy paintings, and sports memorabilia for his office? 

Think that's behavior that somebody would want to take a look at?
Of course.  Just like the staffer who ultimately wiped Hillary's emails asked Reddit for advice the day after emails were subpoenaed on how to destroy metadata.  Then when he learned he couldn't, he just wiped it all. Think he did that on his own, or did someone maybe ask him to do that?

Oh, by the way--Reddit community told him that modifying or deleting metadata could be illegal. 

There was clear intent to destroy evidence here.  And it didn't fall in this rube's shoulders.  

So let's look at both of these things and throw both candidates out.

 
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The key demographic for Clinton at this point is getting the under 30 crowd on board.  They hate Trump but a ton of them are voting third party.  Gotta get out there with Bernie and sell herself to them as someone sympathetic to their concerns.  Explain to them how they'll care a lot about family and medical leave sooner than they think, promise to give Sanders people and ideas a voice in her administration, etc.  History shows that people saying they support third party candidates can be won over late in campaigns, if she can go up a few points with that crowd she'll be in much better shape.
Completely agree. Obama dominated this demographic and Hillary has tepid support there. Bernie and Michelle are probably Hillary's best surrogates with that demo (and perhaps Barack).

 
here's a small list:

ramming Obamacare down our throats

sucking up to Iran then the entire Iran nuclear boondoggle

Syria

Libya

ISIS  the jv team

letting a bunch of terrorists go back to terroristing  from Gitmo

lack of border enforcement

fast and furious gun running to mexican cartels

IRS scandal

Veterans admin ongoing scandal

leaving Iraq too soon
- "clash for clunkers"/closing dealerships  :drive:

- picking solar panel company "winners" that would quickly go bankrupt   :porked:

- shovel ready jobs  :construction:

- and always leading from behind unless there is an opportunity to jump into an issue and pass judgement without knowing the facts.    :pokey:

 
Improving health care. Check.

Don't like going into foreign countries but also don't like leaving them too early, continuation of Republican Bush policies. Check.

Releasing illegally held people per our constitution. Check.

Continuation of Republican War on Drugs. Agree with you there.

IRS and VA should be better. VA is due to lack of Republcan funding as you like small government so that's what you get.

Dealing with terrorists...killed Osama bin Laden. Check.

Seems you should be pretty stoked. Oh but that's right. He's black. 
Ah, I see we have differing points of view.  None of that had anything to do with skin color.  

 
Paranoid Trump supporters believe Hillary faked a campaign event.

Victurus Libertas1 day ago (edited)

UPDATE - I will say this one more time - Many say they have been to this NC rally. That's fine. I am not going to debate that. ALL i am saying at this point is that I am convinced that this video was altered. That is my opinion. I don't know the exact reason why it was done but clearly it was. You can have your opinion and I can have mine. Thank you
Debunked.

Trump voters - how's it feel to be a part of such an ignorant, paranoid movement?

 
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- "clash for clunkers"/closing dealerships  :drive:

- picking solar panel company "winners" that would quickly go bankrupt   :porked:

- shovel ready jobs  :construction:

- and always leading from behind unless there is an opportunity to jump into an issue and pass judgement without knowing the facts.    :pokey:
"He's not perfect, therefore, Trump!"

 
Paranoid Trump supporters believe Hillary faked a campaign event.

Debunked.

Trump voters - how's it feel to be a part of such an ignorant, paranoid movement?
I don't know, let's ask this Bloomberg reporter:

“Are you concerned that this weekend’s attacks or potential incidents in the coming weeks might be an attempt by ISIS or ISIS sympathizers, or really any other group, maybe the Russians, to influence the presidential race in some way, and presumably try to drive votes to Donald Trump, who is, as you’ve said before, widely seen as perhaps being somebody who they would be more willing to—or see as an easier person to be against?” she asked.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/reporter-to-clinton-concerned-bombings-isis-sympathizers-russians-swing-election-trump/

 
Great poll here for Clinton from an A rated pollster (Monmouth) in a state that is rapidly becoming very important:

link

They also had a poll yesterday showing Clinton with a 5 point lead in Florida, and one the day before showing Trump leading by just 3 in Georgia.  If you're thinking maybe they lean Dem, six days ago they had one showing Trump up 8 in Iowa.  How stupid are the people of Iowa, right?

Anyway, there's a national WSJ/NBC poll coming out this afternoon. If that one shows Clinton back up 4-5 points (I have a weird feeling they might) I think those models that have been showing Trump with momentum might start to go back the other way.
Dammit, GB.  Take that back!

Wait...we elected Steve King. :bag:

 
Of course.  Just like the staffer who ultimately wiped Hillary's emails asked Reddit for advice the day after emails were subpoenaed on how to destroy metadata.  Then when he learned he couldn't, he just wiped it all. Think he did that on his own, or did someone maybe ask him to do that?

Oh, by the way--Reddit community told him that modifying or deleting metadata could be illegal. 

There was clear intent to destroy evidence here.  And it didn't fall in this rube's shoulders.  

So let's look at both of these things and throw both candidates out.
Both aren't ideal but Trump is simply a joke. 

The problem I see with replacing is the next person up will just be under investigation. That's what DC does.

 
Hillary is starting to look like Jeb! all over again from the primary. Out spend your opponent by an absurd amount of money only to collapse in the polls and still have soaring high negative ratings.  Draw super small crowds.  Have low or no energy at all times (or in her case just physically collapse).  What a  :tfp:

 
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I prefer Hillary over Sanders. but its was not a level field. the DNC must be neutral and let the people pick. 
Why must they? I don't get this argument. Why should the actual officials in a political party have no influence over who represents their brand in a national election and leave it to the masses who may or may not even be a part of their brand or their organization decide for them?

 
here's a small list:

ramming Obamacare down our throats

sucking up to Iran then the entire Iran nuclear boondoggle

Syria

Libya

ISIS  the jv team

letting a bunch of terrorists go back to terroristing  from Gitmo

lack of border enforcement

fast and furious gun running to mexican cartels

IRS scandal

Veterans admin ongoing scandal

leaving Iraq too soon
Nah, just excuses to hide your hatred of an AFRICAN AMERICAN. 

 
Both aren't ideal but Trump is simply a joke. 

The problem I see with replacing is the next person up will just be under investigation. That's what DC does.
I disagree with the second half.  If evidence of felonies is present (as it is with both, but specific with Clinton) PROSECUTE.  

I'll worry about whose next after justice.

 
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Why must they? I don't get this argument. Why should the actual officials in a political party have no influence over who represents their brand in a national election and leave it to the masses who may or may not even be a part of their brand or their organization decide for them?
They can do what they want IMO.  Just don't sell it as something it isn't and don't force me to fund the goat rodeo if I don't want to.

 
Why must they? I don't get this argument. Why should the actual officials in a political party have no influence over who represents their brand in a national election and leave it to the masses who may or may not even be a part of their brand or their organization decide for them?
My understanding is that its a violation of their own charter.

Don't give people the illusion its level while its not. Hillary's big problem is can't she be trusted, she is crooked. This did not help. I get party insiders and long term contributors get more say and I'm fine with that except for super delegates(i dont like that 1 equates to about 10,000 civilian votes). but it turns people away and you have to be real delicate with that. We already are seeing a big push from voters against the establishment from left and right.  

 
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