David Dodds
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This is the best summary of the corruption in a simple 18 minute video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApcqXijVzYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApcqXijVzYU
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David Dodds
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Serious watch it. It's from the Young Turks who are die-hard liberal and loved Bernie Sanders.
Bankruptcy is a part of doing business. I THINK I heard that he filed it four times.
Have you taken the time to look up Trumps SUCCESSFUL business ventures?
Here....I'll help you
Sand
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I hedged in 08 and bought in 09. From a fundamentals point of view selling now is probably a mistake. But then again, 30% drops are normal, so no telling. Ford has no clue what the hell he's talking about in regards to market movements.
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Mile High
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“You’ve taken business bankruptcies six times.”
–Hillary Clinton
“On occasion – four times – we used certain laws that are there.”
–Donald Trump
THE FACT CHECKER | Clinton is correct.
Trump’s companies have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, which means a company can remain in business while wiping away many of its debts. The bankruptcy court ultimately approves a corporate budget and a plan to repay remaining debts; often shareholders lose much of their equity.
Trump’s Taj Mahal opened in April 1990 in Atlantic City, but six months later, “defaulted on interest payments to bondholders as his finances went into a tailspin,” The Washington Post’s Robert O’Harrow found. In July 1991, Trump’s Taj Mahal filed for bankruptcy. He could not keep up with debts on two other Atlantic City casinos, and those two properties declared bankruptcy in 1992. A fourth property, the Plaza Hotel in New York, declared bankruptcy in 1992 after amassing debt.
PolitiFact uncovered two more bankruptcies filed after 1992, totaling six. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy again in 2004, after accruing about $1.8 billion in debt. Trump Entertainment Resorts also declared bankruptcy in 2009, after being hit hard during the 2008 recession.
Why the discrepancy? Perhaps this will give us an idea: Trump told Washington Post reporters that he counted the first three bankruptcies as just one.
Sand
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So today we have:
2 FBI dumps
Pedophile ring
Yoko Ono
Godwin's Law pretty much everywhere
Podesta flatly stating that they should dump emails (whoops.)
Chris Matthews endorsing Trump (astonishing)
Tim declaring that if Hillary loses it isn't her fault.
This might be the best day in politics ever. I can't think of how this could be topped.
2 FBI dumps
Pedophile ring
Yoko Ono
Godwin's Law pretty much everywhere
Podesta flatly stating that they should dump emails (whoops.)
Chris Matthews endorsing Trump (astonishing)
Tim declaring that if Hillary loses it isn't her fault.
This might be the best day in politics ever. I can't think of how this could be topped.
hagmania
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David Dodds
Administrator
What's HRCs end-game right now? The FBI is not going to let her become the President. I imagine the Democrats are better off if she wins, but you wonder if she just stepped down, if Tim Kaine would not get even more people to come out and vote.
A lot has happened late, but I will be super shocked if the bad news reverses any time soon.
A lot has happened late, but I will be super shocked if the bad news reverses any time soon.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Sand
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The General
Footballguy
The last few pages have been some doozies. Some of the best stuff harkening back to Hillary Clinton has a body double posts.
The General
Footballguy
Trump will be selling gold and trump branded prepper kits from the Oval Office.
David Dodds
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Hillary comes off as inept from this FBI report:
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton
Has no idea how to do anything related to classified data
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton
Has no idea how to do anything related to classified data
At the last commercial break....
Hillary ad...Some Rep saying Trump said bad things and he does want his kids to look up to that.
Trump ad...Trump is a builder and here is his blueprint...paid maternity leave, lower taxes, jobs, etc.
Yeah, I know it's all BS but interesting to see who's running positive campaign ads and who's running attack ads.
Hillary ad...Some Rep saying Trump said bad things and he does want his kids to look up to that.
Trump ad...Trump is a builder and here is his blueprint...paid maternity leave, lower taxes, jobs, etc.
Yeah, I know it's all BS but interesting to see who's running positive campaign ads and who's running attack ads.
Well that's as good of an excuse as any to prove she didn't have intent.
Along these lines, time to crack the whip on whoever producing the Hoopsguys material. Hillary could probably be doing as well.
tommyboy
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She's so stupid she doesn't understand classified material or computers yet she's the most qualified candidate. However she's also smart enough to turn a $1000 investment into $100,000 profit trading cattle futures but didn't know that c stands for classified.
Pick one angle and stick with it, all this jumping back and forth based on the scandal of the day is getting tiresome
Wow....this really is the Rosetta Stone of the Clinton World.
Everyone has to watch this video (Hillary backers, get your blinders on)
Kudos to the Daily Commercial....a Florida newspaper that printed and editorial apology for its ongoing anti-Trump bias.
Try this: Google "Florida newspaper apologizes" and just see if ANY members of the MSM are carrying this story.
Mexico Daily has a story....but NOT a WORD from the MSM.
Try this: Google "Florida newspaper apologizes" and just see if ANY members of the MSM are carrying this story.
Mexico Daily has a story....but NOT a WORD from the MSM.
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Neofight
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How about a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State claiming a counter-coup to a Clinton lead coup? Not sure how this was missed earlier:
Chaos Commish
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At least 2 of the items on your list are hoaxes, if that matters. But in this election it's hard to tell what's real and what's an illusion.
jamny
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avoiding injuries
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Hang 10
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James Daulton
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Clearly Hilldog has pissed off somebody in the FBI. Time to batten down the hatches and get ready for a fun ride the next four years.
Leeroy Jenkins
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I have said it a few times. Romney was right. I did not think that at the time. Now russia is trying to take over the Arctic and they are pulling 1930s hitler moves in Europe using the same justification for crimea as hitler did.
Leeroy Jenkins
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If you vote for Hillary you're a grown up; if you vote for trump you're a sucker; if you dont vote you're an #######.
https://www.facebook.com/teamcoco/videos/1281683415223871/
https://www.facebook.com/teamcoco/videos/1281683415223871/
cobalt_27
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avoiding injuries
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
With all the crazy flying around over the last few days, there are still two things that I find interesting. They may mean nothing, or they may mean everything....
First, it has been widely reported that Comey and/or the FBI briefed the Justice Department on the developments last Thursday. It has been reported that Lynch advised Comey against sending the letter to Congress. As we all know, Comey ignored that advice - from his purported boss. But, I don't find that terribly unusual. What I do find interesting is that when teh news broke, all of the reporters embedded with the Clinton campaign reported that the campaign learned about the letter the same time as everyone else - in fact, they held a brief meeting about it on the plane after the media had disembarked. That suggests that nobody in Justice leaked the report to the Clinton's in advance. Now, ordinarily, you may think "Great, Justice should not be leaking anything to anyone." But this is DC, where leaks are simply a part of doing business, and where people are constantly trying to gain political capital/favors. So, I think it is interesting that this did not leak from a Democratic Justice Department to a Democratic Presidential candidate...
Second is the fact that the FBI went the route of obtaining a warrant to access the emails. It has been reported that Weiner is cooperating, so surely he could have, and would have given permission. To the extent that Huma's permission was required, her attorney has stated that they are willing to cooperate, but that the FBI has not contacted them yet. Now, going for a warrant is "cleaner" from a legal perspective, in terms of being able to later use the evidence, but given "cooperating" witnesses, a warrant might have been a nuisance - after all you have to get in front of a judge and state, under oath, that you have probable cause to believe evidence of a crime will be found. You can't simply go in front of a judge and say "Hey, we found some emails we would like to read, can you sign off on that?" Of course, the flip side is that witnesses who have lawyered up - like Huma and Weiner - rarely cooperate for free - there is usually a price, whether it is seeking some immunity, or some restriction on use. Maybe the FBI did not want to cut any deals here - which seems odd.
First, it has been widely reported that Comey and/or the FBI briefed the Justice Department on the developments last Thursday. It has been reported that Lynch advised Comey against sending the letter to Congress. As we all know, Comey ignored that advice - from his purported boss. But, I don't find that terribly unusual. What I do find interesting is that when teh news broke, all of the reporters embedded with the Clinton campaign reported that the campaign learned about the letter the same time as everyone else - in fact, they held a brief meeting about it on the plane after the media had disembarked. That suggests that nobody in Justice leaked the report to the Clinton's in advance. Now, ordinarily, you may think "Great, Justice should not be leaking anything to anyone." But this is DC, where leaks are simply a part of doing business, and where people are constantly trying to gain political capital/favors. So, I think it is interesting that this did not leak from a Democratic Justice Department to a Democratic Presidential candidate...
Second is the fact that the FBI went the route of obtaining a warrant to access the emails. It has been reported that Weiner is cooperating, so surely he could have, and would have given permission. To the extent that Huma's permission was required, her attorney has stated that they are willing to cooperate, but that the FBI has not contacted them yet. Now, going for a warrant is "cleaner" from a legal perspective, in terms of being able to later use the evidence, but given "cooperating" witnesses, a warrant might have been a nuisance - after all you have to get in front of a judge and state, under oath, that you have probable cause to believe evidence of a crime will be found. You can't simply go in front of a judge and say "Hey, we found some emails we would like to read, can you sign off on that?" Of course, the flip side is that witnesses who have lawyered up - like Huma and Weiner - rarely cooperate for free - there is usually a price, whether it is seeking some immunity, or some restriction on use. Maybe the FBI did not want to cut any deals here - which seems odd.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Would LOVE to see some of the hardcore Clinton supporters respond to this.
So tempted to post this on FB to get a reaction from the Clinton supporters (not that I'm a trump supporter) but its just not worth the aggravation.
Its stuff like this that makes me want to rip my hair out when I hear people say stuff like "People only criticize Hillary because she is a woman". I know that every presidential family takes absurd speaking fees after leaving office and generally, nobody cares. But you can't take $10's of millions of dollars from huge corporations just to go in and talk for 45 minutes at a time and seriously expect people to believe that they expected nothing in return.
Bonzai
Footballguy
cobalt_27
Footballguy
This is all rather interesting and connects to an otherwise (and probably) innocuous anecdotal report yesterday where it was Pete Williams, I believe, who reported that Lynch and Comey met for a scheduled briefing, then Lynch pulled him aside for a brief conversation--and hen this was the part that stuck out to me--Williams reported that Lynch at one point had put her hand on Comey's arm and asked, "How are you doing [or "holding up," I can't remember exactly]?"
It was the sort of human moment I wasn't expecting from what was otherwise a mundane report from Williams. And it could be totally innocuous. But, there is some part of me who is wondering if we are bracing here in the quiet for something big.
Baloney Sandwich
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Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
We're already there. The FBI Director interjecting themselves into the election process days before election day, over emails that may or may not be to the candidate or from the candidate, in an election that had already been dominated by emails and the FBI, is something big.
The Commish
Footballguy
Throw me into this camp as well. I knew it would be somewhat close and that would be good for a
here or there. Never did I imagine this sort of incompetence all around by the candidates. I've used the phrase "epic race to the bottom" as a hyperbole laden catch phrase, but that's exactly what's unfolding in front of us. All that's left is for the dogs and cats to begin sleeping together. So embarrassing. 
Boston
Footballguy
Has the Podesta email saying she smells like boiled cabbage, urine and farts been confirmed? If so anyone who voted early for her has a real dilemma...bad enough she's a liar and corrupt but do we really want our President smelling like an Irish Pub around midnight on St. Patrick's day...
Mr. Pickles
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