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@SaintsInDome2006

Number wise we really haven't seen much erosion in Clinton's numbers post Comey. More of the R base coming home to Trump. Which won't be enough for him. As we said yesterday hell hang onto the red states that looked questionable at peak Clinton and he can be promising in Ohio and Iowa. But the rest of the toss ups still probably land with Clinton. And no reasonable map in my mind drops her below 272 EV either way. 

 
Sinn Fein said:
Hillary Clinton Economic Team Planned Secret Meeting With Wall Street Mogul Pushing To Shift Retiree Savings To Financial Firms

Days before publicly promoting a plan that could funnel billions of dollars of retiree assets to Wall Street, the president of one of the world’s largest financial firms was organizing a private meeting with Hillary Clinton’s economic team. A hacked email detailing the meeting between Blackstone President Tony James — a top Clinton fundraiser — and Clinton’s economic advisers was released by Wikileaks on Wednesday.

On January 1, 2016, James published a New York Times op-ed promoting his plan to enact a new 3 percent payroll tax that would raise hundreds of billions of dollars to fund guaranteed retirement accounts. As International Business Times reported last month, James’ firm is a major private equity and hedge fund player, and his plan promoted the fact that the money could be invested in those kind of alternative investments.

Wikileaks emails now show that three days before that op-ed was published, a Blackstone official contacted Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, letting him know that James was convening a meeting at his apartment to discuss economic policy with Clinton’s top aides. The meeting was to be hosted by James and former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, who is now the president of the private equity giant Warburg Pincus.
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Evidence ticket #247 that HRC is evil.  Huge investment boondoggle to mandatorily put monies into alternative investments.  Hello huge fees.  Hello massive asset bubbles.  And people thought the housing crash was bad?

Good god this is awful.

 
Trey said:
@SaintsInDome2006

Number wise we really haven't seen much erosion in Clinton's numbers post Comey. More of the R base coming home to Trump. Which won't be enough for him. As we said yesterday hell hang onto the red states that looked questionable at peak Clinton and he can be promising in Ohio and Iowa. But the rest of the toss ups still probably land with Clinton. And no reasonable map in my mind drops her below 272 EV either way. 
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I'd agree, I just thought I'd throw some updates in. NV and VA are the two that seem to have had movement.

As for the Comey thing, I'm inclined to agree. Can't argue it's politically groundshaking and then also that 'emails don't matter' or that 'it's baked in'. I happen to agree that it's baked in and the reaction to Comey's letter was an overreaction from Hillary and many of her supporters followed.

I'll buy the point that people have tried the Gary Johnson and it left them unenthused so they're going back. We'll see, but I'll stick with 300-325 though I think she was looking at something much greater not long ago.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Hillary Clinton Economic Team Planned Secret Meeting With Wall Street Mogul Pushing To Shift Retiree Savings To Financial Firms

Days before publicly promoting a plan that could funnel billions of dollars of retiree assets to Wall Street, the president of one of the world’s largest financial firms was organizing a private meeting with Hillary Clinton’s economic team. A hacked email detailing the meeting between Blackstone President Tony James — a top Clinton fundraiser — and Clinton’s economic advisers was released by Wikileaks on Wednesday.

On January 1, 2016, James published a New York Times op-ed promoting his plan to enact a new 3 percent payroll tax that would raise hundreds of billions of dollars to fund guaranteed retirement accounts. As International Business Times reported last month, James’ firm is a major private equity and hedge fund player, and his plan promoted the fact that the money could be invested in those kind of alternative investments.

Wikileaks emails now show that three days before that op-ed was published, a Blackstone official contacted Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, letting him know that James was convening a meeting at his apartment to discuss economic policy with Clinton’s top aides. The meeting was to be hosted by James and former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, who is now the president of the private equity giant Warburg Pincus.
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What's the problem here?

 
Sinn Fein said:
Hillary Clinton Economic Team Planned Secret Meeting With Wall Street Mogul Pushing To Shift Retiree Savings To Financial Firms

Days before publicly promoting a plan that could funnel billions of dollars of retiree assets to Wall Street, the president of one of the world’s largest financial firms was organizing a private meeting with Hillary Clinton’s economic team. A hacked email detailing the meeting between Blackstone President Tony James — a top Clinton fundraiser — and Clinton’s economic advisers was released by Wikileaks on Wednesday.

On January 1, 2016, James published a New York Times op-ed promoting his plan to enact a new 3 percent payroll tax that would raise hundreds of billions of dollars to fund guaranteed retirement accounts. As International Business Times reported last month, James’ firm is a major private equity and hedge fund player, and his plan promoted the fact that the money could be invested in those kind of alternative investments.

Wikileaks emails now show that three days before that op-ed was published, a Blackstone official contacted Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, letting him know that James was convening a meeting at his apartment to discuss economic policy with Clinton’s top aides. The meeting was to be hosted by James and former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, who is now the president of the private equity giant Warburg Pincus.
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IN before the predictable "It was a meeting with Clinton's top aides, not Clinton herself...nothing to see here"  

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I'd agree, I just thought I'd throw some updates in. NV and VA are the two that seem to have had movement.

As for the Comey thing, I'm inclined to agree. Can't argue it's politically groundshaking and then also that 'emails don't matter' or that 'it's baked in'. I happen to agree that it's baked in and the reaction to Comey's letter was an overreaction from Hillary and many of her supporters followed.

I'll buy the point that people have tried the Gary Johnson and it left them unenthused so they're going back. We'll see, but I'll stick with 300-325 though I think she was looking at something much greater not long ago.
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Agree on that last point. 2 weeks ago I would have said closer to 400 than 270. Which hurts for style points but also down ballot. 

Nevada - I suggest following Jon Ralston for early vote figures. He's definitely D tilt but he nailed Reid over Angle and Obama over Romney. He doesn't buy those figures for a second. (Much like last night's Clinton plus 8 in FL was bunk)

How about Senate.. Bayh blew it, Feingold losing steam.. Kander on the upswing and McGinty surging. We've got every race moving in opposite directions which is crazy for 6 days out. 

 
cstu said:
Of those she only needs PA to win.
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I think what gets me is Hillary was looking at a historic victory and now she is back to the recent blue/red/battleground rubric we've all been used to. Yes she will win but it will just be the typical resent breakdown possibly.

 
Trey said:
Agree on that last point. 2 weeks ago I would have said closer to 400 than 270. Which hurts for style points but also down ballot. 

Nevada - I suggest following Jon Ralston for early vote figures. He's definitely D tilt but he nailed Reid over Angle and Obama over Romney. He doesn't buy those figures for a second. (Much like last night's Clinton plus 8 in FL was bunk)

How about Senate.. Bayh blew it, Feingold losing steam.. Kander on the upswing and McGinty surging. We've got every race moving in opposite directions which is crazy for 6 days out. 
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Bayh had that report about his never being home in Indiana. That KILLED Mary Landrieu here, and it was absolutely true and damaging. He also had the other stuff about shopping himself around. I used to like that guy but like a lot of pols they get to DC and they change.

I think there is going to be a lot of emotional voting on Election Day so yeah very unpredictable results downticket.

 
Trey said:
Have things settled down with today's polling. 

Firewall is in tact. And I expect Florida and north Carolina in her column in the end as well. 

Even better news is McGinty looking stronger against Toomey in PA.
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Yeah I'm feeling a lot better. I also think she's going to win Nevada despite latest polling- 

 
The Commish said:
IN before the predictable "It was a meeting with Clinton's top aides, not Clinton herself...nothing to see here"  
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Doesn't matter whether it's her or an aide.  When she proposes privatizing social security that will be a story.

From her website:

Social Security isn’t just a program—it’s a promise. As president, Hillary will:


  • Defend Social Security against Republican attacks. Republicans are using scare tactics about the future and effectiveness of Social Security to push through policies that would jeopardize it. The real threat is Republican attempts to undermine the bedrock of the system. Hillary believes that Social Security must remain what it has always been: a rock-solid benefit that seniors can always count on—not subject to the budget whims of Congress or to the fluctuations of the stock market. She fought Republican efforts to undermine Social Security when she was a senator and throughout her career, and she will fight them as president. As president, she would:


    Fight any attempts to gamble seniors’ retirement security on the stock market through privatization.
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cstu said:
Doesn't matter whether it's her or an aide.  When she proposes privatizing social security that will be a story.

From her website:
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Now factor in her inner Abraham Lincoln - where she has a "public" view, and a "private" view.   We just got a glimpse of her private view, and where she is headed, for the benefit of Wall Street...

 
Sinn Fein said:
Now factor in her inner Abraham Lincoln - where she has a "public" view, and a "private" view.   We just got a glimpse of her private view, and where she is headed, for the benefit of Wall Street...
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That's right, you got her, she's pulling a huge scam on the American people.

 
CBusAlex said:
THE LYING PRESS IS TELLING YOU ADRIAN PETERSON IS OUT WITH A TORN MENISCUS BUT THESE SECRET VIDEOS I FOUND ON 4CHAN PROVE HE HAS BEEN PLAYING EVERY WEEK WAKE UP SHEEPLE HE IS A LOCK FOR RB1
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:lmao:

 
Sand said:
Evidence ticket #247 that HRC is evil.  Huge investment boondoggle to mandatorily put monies into alternative investments.  Hello huge fees.  Hello massive asset bubbles.  And people thought the housing crash was bad?

Good god this is awful.
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Didn't you vote for candidates proposing exactly the same thing in the last two elections?

 
NCCommish said:
Latest wikileaks shows Podesta's buddy who is running the Hillary investigation has been secretly sending Podesta heads up on investigations over the last couple of years.
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Not a smidgen of corruption 

 
Sinn Fein said:
Hillary Clinton Economic Team Planned Secret Meeting With Wall Street Mogul Pushing To Shift Retiree Savings To Financial Firms

Days before publicly promoting a plan that could funnel billions of dollars of retiree assets to Wall Street, the president of one of the world’s largest financial firms was organizing a private meeting with Hillary Clinton’s economic team. A hacked email detailing the meeting between Blackstone President Tony James — a top Clinton fundraiser — and Clinton’s economic advisers was released by Wikileaks on Wednesday.

On January 1, 2016, James published a New York Times op-ed promoting his plan to enact a new 3 percent payroll tax that would raise hundreds of billions of dollars to fund guaranteed retirement accounts. As International Business Times reported last month, James’ firm is a major private equity and hedge fund player, and his plan promoted the fact that the money could be invested in those kind of alternative investments.

Wikileaks emails now show that three days before that op-ed was published, a Blackstone official contacted Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, letting him know that James was convening a meeting at his apartment to discuss economic policy with Clinton’s top aides. The meeting was to be hosted by James and former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, who is now the president of the private equity giant Warburg Pincus.
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And guess who is on the short list for Treasury Secretary

 
Sinn Fein said:
A hacked email detailing the meeting between Blackstone President Tony James — a top Clinton fundraiser — and Clinton’s economic advisers...
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See what I find interesting about this is that Hillary's economic advisors should be meeting with Hillary, not the President of a Wall Street Co. Who's in charge here?

 
cstu said:
Doesn't matter whether it's her or an aide.  When she proposes privatizing social security that will be a story.
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See, this is where the TPP issue comes in.

Honesty in policy, vs lie to get in or to sell some policy vs what we get.

People get angry when this happens, they feel powerless in their democracy and they act out.

 
cstu said:
Doesn't matter whether it's her or an aide.  When she proposes privatizing social security that will be a story.

From her website:
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And yet she has supported the grand bargain which included some privatization of SS. Gee I am sure she wouldn't say one thing and do another. I wonder which she was lying about? I am sure it isn't the one that would put billions in her donors pocket, no way.

 
NCCommish said:
And yet she has supported the grand bargain which included some privatization of SS. Gee I am sure she wouldn't say one thing and do another. I wonder which she was lying about? I am sure it isn't the one that would put billions in her donors pocket, no way.
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Where?

 
I know I'm going to make no friends here by writing this but- can't Wall Street's interests be synonymous with the best outcome for the public? I would argue that oftentimes it is. This demonization of Wall Street and the corporate world by both parties gets awfully tiresome. 

 
David Dodds said:
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-01-of-04/view

Starts getting really good from page 21 on:

81 classified including:

  • 8 Top Secret
  • 7 Special Access Program
  • 3 SCI
  • 36 NOFORN
  • 2 Five Allied Partners
Simply wreckless
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Not to trivialize, but NOFORN is almost a joke. IN fact, it's perfectly legal to take NOFORN materials home. Most NOFORN info is widely available on the internet. It doesn't belong on this list, making the already tiny number out of 33000 even more tiny, like Donald's hands

 
timschochet said:
I know I'm going to make no friends here by writing this but- can't Wall Street's interests be synonymous with the best outcome for the public? I would argue that oftentimes it is. This demonization of Wall Street and the corporate world by both parties gets awfully tiresome. 
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Yeah the crash was in all our best interests. I remember all the billions I made how about you?

 
Well I am glad Tim is off the ledge. I am going to retire for the evening and go kill some stuff, save a village or two and maybe get married.

 
renesauz said:
Not to trivialize, but NOFORN is almost a joke. IN fact, it's perfectly legal to take NOFORN materials home. Most NOFORN info is widely available on the internet. It doesn't belong on this list, making the already tiny number out of 33000 even more tiny, like Donald's hands
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But officer, I really didn't intend to rob the bank, I just asked them to hand over all the cash.  Also, it only happened twice and there are thousands of banks.

 
timschochet said:
I know I'm going to make no friends here by writing this but- can't Wall Street's interests be synonymous with the best outcome for the public? I would argue that oftentimes it is. This demonization of Wall Street and the corporate world by both parties gets awfully tiresome. 
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Tim, I'd agree with you that sometimes they are.  But we need transparency and can't have issues determined in back rooms. 

 
renesauz said:
Not to trivialize, but NOFORN is almost a joke. IN fact, it's perfectly legal to take NOFORN materials home. Most NOFORN info is widely available on the internet. It doesn't belong on this list, making the already tiny number out of 33000 even more tiny, like Donald's hands
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:lmao:

 
BassNBrew said:
But officer, I really didn't intend to rob the bank, I just asked them to hand over all the cash.  Also, it only happened twice and there are thousands of banks.
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Bass, I was once a nuclear operator in the Navy. Virtually EVERYTHING related to my job was classified as NOFORN. If you could see this stuff, you'd realize that THAT particular classification really is a joke. Further, it WAS allowed to take NOFORN materials home. The requirement was to not share the info with foreigners, but it was (technically) legal to discuss it with Americans.

Now....a SOS who even remotely discusses ANYTHING work related in any email would be at a very high risk for discussing NOFORN materials. I GUARANTEE that had ANY SOS private server been scrutinized in the past as hers is now, they would find dozens or hundreds of emails containing NOFORN.

IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THE DISCUSSION.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
:lmao:
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Exactly which part was funny? I'm speaking as somebody who's entire job revolved around NOFRON and Confidential materials.

(FWIW, most confidential material is a joke too, but at least the strict handling rules apply to it. The handling rules for NOFORN are very lax...for a very good reason)

 
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