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I get the sense that she has blown this - the leaks and the relentless sm ell of corruption are taking it's toll. Also I think Trump has hit upon the issue of constant investigations and it resonates with those that are on the fence or that were considering abandoning him. He indiscretions have burned out as issues as these leaks take center stage.

If you take Nate Silvers work and flip NH, Colorado and Nevada - all doable by the way. Trump eeks over the finish line. He's gaining momentum in the polls due to his strategy and I think he has more enthusiasm among supporters. She's a hot mess right now and they are running on fumes.As a lifelong Democrat, I hope it isn't true - but it sure smells that way. She's a loser and won't be getting my vote.
If you hope it isn't true, you should vote for her, given that you're in Colorado.
Despite the situation she doesn't deserve my vote - she's terrible and she deserves to be taken down off her pedestal of presumption and I hope the DNC will learn their lesson in this one - it should be painful so the party never does this crap again.

 
Don't a lot of the people who are making an issue of this spirit cooking stuff eat a wafer every Sunday morning and pretend it's the body of a guy who died 2000+ years ago?  Those wafers aren't raw.
Transubstantiation.

If you weren't indoctrinated about it, it looks like some freaky form of cannibalism to an outsider. And that's putting it lightly. But express this publicly and you might killed for being a heretic. It happened.

 
In what tracking polls?  Rasmussen has swung from +3 Trump yesterday to even today.  ABC is back to her +3 with two good polling days for her in the last 2.  IBD is still flat.  Hell even that dopey USC poll is down a point for him?  

From everything it looks like his momentum has stopped
And 538 has her gaining likelihood of election over the last 24 hours for the first time in a week.  She was down to 64.7% yesterday around this time.  Up to 67.7% today.

 
Do you mind saying who you voted for in 2008 & 2012? I'm just curious, not being personal or attacking. The Obama voter / non-Clinton voter margin is what could cost her this election.
Steering within the lanes of voters showing up for her that showed up for President Obama, that will be interesting to see play out on Tuesday. I still think she wins because it's Trump, but if it's closer than the polls indicate now that will matter.

 
I'm so stuck on this Abramovic thing.  If you're not into art, fine, but Abramovic changed the face of performance art.  In Serbia in the 70s she laid out a table full of objects and stood in front of it for six hours and allowed the "audience" to use the objects on her in any way they saw fit.  She was cut, stripped, had a gun held to her head, etc.  It was an utterly amazing exhibition.  She's insane, but she's exactly what a performance artist is supposed to be.

 
It's a shame Ambassador Stevens died because pulling out of Benghazi would have sent the wrong message.  Another victim of the Clinton Family Crime Syndicate.  Died for their own political agenda.

 
Despite the situation she doesn't deserve my vote - she's terrible and she deserves to be taken down off her pedestal of presumption and I hope the DNC will learn their lesson in this one - it should be painful so the party never does this crap again.
"Try it again without a nose! Do you hear me, face?!  DO YOU HEAR ME??"

 
Do you mind saying who you voted for in 2008 & 2012? I'm just curious, not being personal or attacking. The Obama voter / non-Clinton voter margin is what could cost her this election.
I have voted for every Democrat for President since Jimmy Carter in 1976. I was passing out flyers for Gene McCarthy in 1968 and eventually Humphrey - same with McGovern in 1972. I am a Gary Hart/**** Lamm/Hunter Thompson liberal. I despise her and her team of incompetent boobs.

The African American vote and the youth vote are going to cost her as well - they are lacking enthusiasm and a reason to vote FOR her. She didn't care about the youth vote before Bernie and took them for granted - she did the same with African Americans and now they aren't energized. She thought her name was enough and that she deserved it. Trump is right she has never done anything - she never stuck her head up and fought hard when the bullets were flying on issues - even on healthcare she backed off in the 90s.. She's never been a leader - she just looks which way the wind blows and then takes it. I'm sick of her.

 
It's odd that DD shares so many conspiracy theories on his business site, but I have no issue with it. What I do have an issue with is why doesn't the block feature work consistently? Is there a magic unblock feature for specific messages from monitors?

 
I'm so stuck on this Abramovic thing.  If you're not into art, fine, but Abramovic changed the face of performance art.  In Serbia in the 70s she laid out a table full of objects and stood in front of it for six hours and allowed the "audience" to use the objects on her in any way they saw fit.  She was cut, stripped, had a gun held to her head, etc.  It was an utterly amazing exhibition.  She's insane, but she's exactly what a performance artist is supposed to be.
There isn't any way to slice this.  This is weird AF.  Anyone who is into that kind of art is weird.  I'm all for freedom of speech but anyone talking about mixing & consuming semen & blood should be in a mental ward.

 
Despite the situation she doesn't deserve my vote - she's terrible and she deserves to be taken down off her pedestal of presumption and I hope the DNC will learn their lesson in this one - it should be painful so the party never does this crap again.
So when you say "I hope Trump doesn't win" what you mean is "I hope Trump wins".

 
It's odd that DD shares so many conspiracy theories on his business site, but I have no issue with it. What I do have an issue with is why doesn't the block feature work consistently? Is there a magic unblock feature for specific messages from monitors?
What conspiracy theories?  He posted about something that is the #1 trend on twitter for hours, of a series of leaks that has been a daily trend for 28 days.  This should be considered news, but the mainstream media doesn't always pick up on what the masses are talking about.

 
Despite the situation she doesn't deserve my vote - she's terrible and she deserves to be taken down off her pedestal of presumption and I hope the DNC will learn their lesson in this one - it should be painful so the party never does this crap again.
So when you say "I hope Trump doesn't win" what you mean is "I hope Trump wins".
I'm willing to accept it - not that I hope for it. And if he does I hope the DNC gets a major house cleaning - it's time to get rid of the moneychangers.

 
There isn't any way to slice this.  This is weird AF.  Anyone who is into that kind of art is weird.  I'm all for freedom of speech but anyone talking about mixing & consuming semen & blood should be in a mental ward.
Weirdness should never be removed from society for the sake of removing weirdness.  

 
CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM IF PODESTA WENT TO DINNER WITH ABRAMOVIC OR NOT???

Seriously, my vote hinges on that information.

Also, it's 8:15 a.m. and Henry Ford has already taken all my likes for the day. That's a new record for me.

 
CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM IF PODESTA WENT TO DINNER WITH ABRAMOVIC OR NOT???

Seriously, my vote hinges on that information.

Also, it's 8:15 a.m. and Henry Ford has already taken all my likes for the day. That's a new record for me.
I thought likes were unlimited now.

 
There isn't any way to slice this.  This is weird AF.  Anyone who is into that kind of art is weird.  I'm all for freedom of speech but anyone talking about mixing & consuming semen & blood should be in a mental ward.
I could make some unfunny comment about porn, oral, ATM, etc here, but I wont

 
CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM IF PODESTA WENT TO DINNER WITH ABRAMOVIC OR NOT???

Seriously, my vote hinges on that information.

Also, it's 8:15 a.m. and Henry Ford has already taken all my likes for the day. That's a new record for me.
He's too derisive of Impressionism, doesn't sit well with me.

 
I have voted for every Democrat for President since Jimmy Carter in 1976. I was passing out flyers for Gene McCarthy in 1968 and eventually Humphrey - same with McGovern in 1972. I am a Gary Hart/**** Lamm/Hunter Thompson liberal. I despise her and her team of incompetent boobs.

The African American vote and the youth vote are going to cost her as well - they are lacking enthusiasm and a reason to vote FOR her. She didn't care about the youth vote before Bernie and took them for granted - she did the same with African Americans and now they aren't energized. She thought her name was enough and that she deserved it. Trump is right she has never done anything - she never stuck her head up and fought hard when the bullets were flying on issues - even on healthcare she backed off in the 90s.. She's never been a leader - she just looks which way the wind blows and then takes it. I'm sick of her.
Thank you, and I agree with your second paragraph. Especially with her lack of promoting the reasons to vote for her, and not just vote against Trump. She's a poor candidate and I think to traditional Democrats she looks a lot like a moderate Republican, when reviewing her track record. I voted Barack, Barack, Bernie recently, but I'm going to go with her over Trump for my daughter's sake, frankly.

 
It's a shame Ambassador Stevens died because pulling out of Benghazi would have sent the wrong message.  Another victim of the Clinton Family Crime Syndicate.  Died for their own political agenda.
I read the email where it said it would send the wrong message. Wrong message to who, though? Not a Clinton foundation group...

 
I'm willing to accept it - not that I hope for it. And if he does I hope the DNC gets a major house cleaning - it's time to get rid of the moneychangers.
I'm sorry that you're having to defend yourself so much because other people don't agree with you. I respect your decision and your reasoning is well thought out. People here can be difficult to communicate with. 

 
When semen & blood chugging is outlawed only outlaws will chug semen & blood!
That's the thing.  It isn't outlawed and no one would try to make it outlawed.  It's not illegal, nor should it be.  In fact, blood and semen are integral parts of spiritual rituals for a number of religions; the Tantric Eucharist is a mixture of semen and blood, transmutation says that you're literally drinking the blood of Christ, etc., etc., etc. 

A mixture of blood, semen, and breast milk is essentially everything (minus the egg) that a human organism survives on from conception to age 1.  Isn't that something remarkable to consider?  Isn't that worthy of artistic exploration, since we see babies as the pinnacle of spiritual existence?  Pure, perfect, deserving of love and being saved, as opposed to the adults we see around us as flawed and filled with fault?  I mean, basically when we stop living on those three substances is when we start falling apart.  Isn't that the sort of issue art is supposed to bring to the forefront of our thoughts?

If she'd titled it "I am an egg" would you be happier?  Because English isn't her first language, admittedly it may have gotten lost in translation.

 
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I hate performance art. I've had to work with a lot of them, setting up their exhibits and they are mostly all pompous a-holes.

eta: actually, it's mostly installation art but they seem like the same type of people.

 
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Our society is so uptight about anything even resembling sexuality but please give us more violence and don't even attempt to limit our gunz!!

Backwards ### mother####ers we are. 

 
Well, I always knew that this thread might actually make me want to throw up.  Now that it's happened, I have to admit that I'm surprised at what it took to get there.

*no offense to performance art, but that #### is definitely not for me.

 
Well, I always knew that this thread might actually make me want to throw up.  Now that it's happened, I have to admit that I'm surprised at what it took to get there.

*no offense to performance art, but that #### is definitely not for me.
Which is totally cool.  But "We shouldn't elect Hillary because one of her staffers is into performance art" is such a ridiculous position to take it could only come from people who want Trump elected.

 
Far from a perfect scenario for me personally, what I think we'll get on Tuesday isn't the worst.  

1.  Fully expect Trump out of the picture come Wednesday

2.  Hillary may survive, but she has limbs hanging off and enters office with a majority of the country aware of many of the things she tried so hard to keep secret for so long, and of her general lack of ethics

3.  There will be enormous pressure for an independent prosecutor and barring interference that could cause as Constituional crisis, she has a real chance of being forced to resign 

Whereas shenanigans and a cabal got her this far, the belief Hillary is crooked is a majority held position and will dog her until she is out.  

It would have been awful if she were elected and she hadn't been exposed for what she is:. Cabbage and farts (according to Podesta).

 
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I've never heard of this Abromovic character. But then again, even with as liberal as the state is in general, we don't even have sex with the lights on here in Minnesota.

 
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Which is totally cool.  But "We shouldn't elect Hillary because one of her staffers is into performance art" is such a ridiculous position to take it could only come from people who want Trump elected.
I agree.  Of all the things to get upset about in this election, that isn't one of them.

 
I've never heard of this Abromovic character. But then again, even with as liberal as the state is in general, we don't even have sex with the lights on here in Minnesota.
Are you on facebook?  You must have seen the video of her sitting at a table for a performance piece silently while someone she used to be with sat across from her for 60 seconds.  It was spectacular.

 
Are you on facebook?  You must have seen the video of her sitting at a table for a performance piece silently while someone she used to be with sat across from her for 60 seconds.  It was spectacular.
I must not have my "favorite things" set up properly for that to come up.

If I'm on Facebook it's almost by accident.

 
So when you say "I hope Trump doesn't win" what you mean is "I hope Trump wins".
  Yeah he's clearly hoping for a Trump victory, as are a few other disgruntled Bernie fans. But they're few and far between and it's not going to happen. 

What people are going to be talking about Tuesday night and Wednesday morning is how much the polls underestimated Latino turnout. I predict it's going to be huge, and that Hillary is going to win Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, and Florida, and lose Texas by a much closer margin than any previous recent Democratic candidate. I think the Republican Party is about to be punished bigly for choosing Trump, and ignoring the 2012 autopsy. 

And yeah, I've been wrong many times in this election cycle, and right a few times as well, but mark this one down; I'm feeling good about it. 

 
Are you on facebook?  You must have seen the video of her sitting at a table for a performance piece silently while someone she used to be with sat across from her for 60 seconds.  It was spectacular.
Help me out here. What is spectacular about this? Fwiw, the only recollection I have of her is the "do to me what you will" thing with the table of stuff. I didn't know that was from the 70s, but nonetheless. I self identify as tolerant and accepting of stuff beyond my sensibilities, but performance art just seems... stupid. No moral judgements, just lame.

edit, but if you love it, that's great...

 
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I must not have my "favorite things" set up properly for that to come up.

If I'm on Facebook it's almost by accident.
Ulay was also a performance artist - they were lovers for many years and in the melodramatic fashion of performance artists, when they decided to break up they did so by walking from opposite ends of the Great Wall of China to meet in the middle and break up.  They didn't see each other again for a quarter century, when she was doing a new exhibition in which she would look at - but not speak to - anyone who sat in a chair opposite her for 60 seconds.  This happened.

 
  Yeah he's clearly hoping for a Trump victory, as are a few other disgruntled Bernie fans. But they're few and far between and it's not going to happen. 

What people are going to be talking about Tuesday night and Wednesday morning is how much the polls underestimated Latino turnout. I predict it's going to be huge, and that Hillary is going to win Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, and Florida, and lose Texas by a much closer margin than any previous recent Democratic candidate. I think the Republican Party is about to be punished bigly for choosing Trump, and ignoring the 2012 autopsy. 

And yeah, I've been wrong many times in this election cycle, and right a few times as well, but mark this one down; I'm feeling good about it. 
Hmmm... so you are convinced you have been right the whole time.  I'm shocked.

 
Latest PPP polls taken on Monday and Tuesday (ie Hillary's nadir) are very good for her:

NH: Clinton 48-43

NV: Clinton 48-45

WI: Clinton 48-41

PA: Clinton 48-44

NC: Clinton 49-47

 
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