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No offense but we are both high volume posters in this and the Trump thread. I am 100% positive I have not been stalking you in any other thread which means that I am in fact not stalking you. The weird thing is you were always nice and pretty cool, now this election has soured you on what used to be good natured ribbing and banter.
My apologies if you no longer feel I am not nice or cool. I'm actually still upset at the results, especially since my individual rights as a non traditional family could be at risk. Fear doesn't sit well with me I guess. I'm sure I'll be back to being nice and fun at some point, but for now, I'm trying to gauge the impact of this election.
I suggest chilling out and relax, You, your family and your rights are going to be just fine. Your fear is making you come across as not very stable here.
I suggest unless you're in a similar situation, to refrain from passing judgement. I spoke to an attorney and she has an increased # of people accelerating adoptions, weddings etc. We considered this, but decided 1. I'm not a polygamist so I need to get my #### resolved first and 2. The chances of appointing a scotus judge, and having them hear a SS marriage case and overturn the ruling is not going to happen in the next two years. With that being said, there are other rights that are at risk. I don't trust Trump, Pence or any of them. Who really knows what he will do.
I don't know why this claim sticks to me.ive never plagiarized in this forum to the best of my knowledge. Certainly not deliberately.
I suppose you're welcome to blame who you like. I sent money to Hillary but only AFTER she won the nomination. Other than that, I provided one vote in a conpletlely blue state. But if you feel that did damage then I apologize.
No problem sorry to hear you are having some personal stress. I truly hope things get straightened out for you. I would fight for your right to be married and I am a big Trump fan. If I could imagine marriage equality being turned back I would not have voted for him. Relax it is ok. Take this for what it is worth. Pre election you and I had some fun interchanges and my impression of the little beaver with Ohio avatar was a cool person. Post election everything bugs you. For better or worse this is a football site filled with boys. This is the locker room talk that people say does not exist. We treat you as an equal and that means giving you crap just like the rest of us.
This doesn't apply to me. I live in Orange County and I know plenty of Trump supporters. But almost all of them were people who hated Obama and Hillary and voted for Romney 4 years ago. I didn't think enough of them would vote for Trump to make the difference. Just one of my many errors.
You're still equating voting against Clinton or Obama with supporting Trump. That has been the problem all along. There are a lot of people who actually actively support Trump.
The Vice President is actively anti-LGBTQ, the secretary of education is actively anti-LGBTQ, the AG is actively anti-LGBTQ. The entire LGBTQ community is going to be in a world of trouble for the next four years.
Fair enough and I'll try to calm down my #####iness ?No problem sorry to hear you are having some personal stress. I truly hope things get straightened out for you. I would fight for your right to be married and I am a big Trump fan. If I could imagine marriage equality being turned back I would not have voted for him. Relax it is ok. Take this for what it is worth. Pre election you and I had some fun interchanges and my impression of the little beaver with Ohio avatar was a cool person. Post election everything bugs you. For better or worse this is the a football site filled with boys. This is the locker room talk that people say does not exist. We treat you as an equal and that means giving you crap just like the rest of us.
Will try to be nicer to you.
At some point you may realize that you helped spread the same kind of misinformation about Clinton's position and history that Trump supporters spread about his. And that you and the other Clinton supporters went half-###ed with it, while Trump went whole hog, and that's why he won this unbelievably awful election. Welcome to the Ministry of Truth.
Change is always scary for some and hopeful for others.
I hope you're right on this, but I think it's very unlikely that any judge would be in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade but against overturning Obergefell.No problem sorry to hear you are having some personal stress. I truly hope things get straightened out for you. I would fight for your right to be married and I am a big Trump fan. If I could imagine marriage equality being turned back I would not have voted for him. Relax it is ok. Take this for what it is worth. Pre election you and I had some fun interchanges and my impression of the little beaver with Ohio avatar was a cool person. Post election everything bugs you. For better or worse this is a football site filled with boys. This is the locker room talk that people say does not exist. We treat you as an equal and that means giving you crap just like the rest of us.
Will try to be nicer to you.
I still remember the USC/UCLA poll question where Trump supporters were more vocal socially, but less inclined to voice Trump support in a telephone poll. That seemed bizarre to me living in an area that would have been the polar opposite. Trump was a name you just didn't mention unless you wanted to get ridiculed.
Really don't see this being a huge issue. Only the religious freaks are against it. Trump has already said he wasn't going to do anything.
No thanks.
Hysteria. Trump has said that this is settled. I don't see the clock being wound back here, at all. In the end this is just baseless fear mongering.
I won't take that personally.
Lot's a people state their view here. You however bombard the board with your views hundreds of times a day. Which would be fine if you were right. But you're not.
But anyhow, why? Please explain how I'm hurting anyone by stating my views.
I post a lot. But I don't post my views in a vacuum. It's usually in the context of a back and forth discussion. And I'm still not clear how it's hurting anybody. You have the option to not read my posts, or put me on ignore.
99% of the country is in the echo chamber, disconcerned from opposing views. Good on you for being in the fray. I like the mayhem of this election because it reminds us if we want positive change we can't phone it in from our couches. This is a sober wake up to the fact that freedom is earned and maintained through difficult action and discomfort. Yes, you drew out a degree of discomfort. It's part of an ongoing process, and for that you have my thanks... You rigid, stubborn *******.
Muslim Americans have nothing to fear - that's ridiculous.
Never said you did. But since you went to that an analogy, a more accurate one would be you drown opposing views with sheer volume.
Agreed when you look at a map the Democrats are tightly packed into small areas. I can see why they parrot each other.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/19674/hillary-clinton-democratic-party-neoliberal-trump
You post your opinions as fact and talk down to a lot of people that call you out for it. It happens all the time and caused you to start your own thread which didn't do what you promised.
But anyhow, why? Please explain how I'm hurting anyone by stating my views.
It is settled as much as Roe v Wade is settled. You can't threaten to overturn one and say the other is settled which is what Henry Ford alluded to earlier. Now the numbers likely don't change with next justice replacing Scalia but if Ginsburg needs to be replaced, could easily overturn both decisions and Congress seems in no hurry to change the law. And with the people he is surrounding himself with, it is certainly cause for concern. What you call hysteria is justifiable to some. It's amazing how many Trump defenders ignore his comments and just say he won't do half the things he said as if that's enough reassurance.
What is settled? LGBTQ rights in general, or marriage equality? Because good luck finding a qualified judge who wants to overturn Roe but not Obergefell.
No one has lost anything and there is no worry. I saw a on TV a pundit (on CNN or MSNBC, I think) say something like, "you women better get your abortions now". C'mon, really? It's simply RIDICULOUS the mass hysteria that is going on with the left. You would think it's War of the Worlds all over again.
So folks on the left are crazy for believing that Conservatives are going to try to do all the stuff they say they want to do?
No, they very well should believe that a duly elected government of Conservatives will push their agenda, just like the Democrats did (remember the whole "back of the bus" crapola?). However, the mass hysteria from the left over this is simply and utterly ridiculous and uncalled for. Now it is just a bunch of fear-mongering, something you guys not too long ago were accusing the GOP of doing.
Lucky for everyone the moderates wrested control of the Republican party from the conservatives.
I think you may need to get a grip on what "being a baby" means. It's not fear mongering to actually believe that a politician will do exactly what he has said he will do. And it certainly isn't fear mongering to believe that an AG who is against LGBTQ rights will not push for civil rights enforcement, that a VP who is Vehemently against abortion would use any influence he has to have a justice appointed who would agree with him, that a President who has stated that he intends to appoint justices who will overturn Roe v Wade will do so. That's the agenda they intend to push. This is the party of DOMA, which was only struck down (in part) by Windsor a few years ago. The party of the Indiana law Pence signed requiring that funeral services be sought for any fetus. It's not a ridiculous position to be prepared for those positions to be pushed, however ridiculous those positions they've taken are.
Pence is not a moderate. Sessions is not a moderate.
Are these top 10 states to retire in? I don't think you have a booming job sector in most of those states.
This is exactly right. But I'm not surprised. My brother is gay and so is my aunt and if you'd read their Facebook...... Unreal.
And if there's one thing we know for certain, it's that once Trump has stated his position on an issue he'll never waver from it. And he surely won't scapegoat any minority in order to curry favor from his mostly white southern/midwestern base or distract the media from an unflattering story.
I disagree. Judges are people. They have clerks, who also happen to be people. They have families, also people. Judges like to project an image that they're above it all and are focused only on the meaning of the Constitution or the statutes they review, but that's a lie. Just like everyone else they're influenced by the world around them.
