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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)

Sent

1.6

2.2

2.6

2015 2nd

Khiry Robinson

Marlon Brown

Kris Durham

For

Ashlon Jeffrey

1.12

2.3

2015 1st

Deep dynasty. 53 man offensive rosters, PPR start QB 2RB 3WR TE and flex
Killer deal for Alshon.

Alshon and 1.12 for 1.6 and Marlon Brown and roster fodder

2.3 = 2.2

2.6+2015 2nd= 2015 1st

Seems like an absolute steal for Alshon to me

 
Sent

1.6

2.2

2.6

2015 2nd

Khiry Robinson

Marlon Brown

Kris Durham

For

Ashlon Jeffrey

1.12

2.3

2015 1st

Deep dynasty. 53 man offensive rosters, PPR start QB 2RB 3WR TE and flex
Terrible....awful....inexcusable.
Jeffery > 1.6

2015 1st > 2.6 + 2015 2nd

I'm a fan of Brown and Robinson so I don't have a problem with the 1.12 for them.

Too cheap for Jeffery but assuming the 2015 1st is late it's not THAT terrible.

 
Sent

1.6

2.2

2.6

2015 2nd

Khiry Robinson

Marlon Brown

Kris Durham

For

Ashlon Jeffrey

1.12

2.3

2015 1st

Deep dynasty. 53 man offensive rosters, PPR start QB 2RB 3WR TE and flex
Terrible....awful....inexcusable.
Jeffery > 1.6

2015 1st > 2.6 + 2015 2nd

I'm a fan of Brown and Robinson so I don't have a problem with the 1.12 for them.

Too cheap for Jeffery but assuming the 2015 1st is late it's not THAT terrible.
I think assuming a late pick for someone that gave Jeffery away may be stretching it some.

Also Jeffery >>>1.6

He may get you 2 mid 1sts right now and maybe more next July/August

 
Sent

1.6

2.2

2.6

2015 2nd

Khiry Robinson

Marlon Brown

Kris Durham

For

Ashlon Jeffrey

1.12

2.3

2015 1st

Deep dynasty. 53 man offensive rosters, PPR start QB 2RB 3WR TE and flex
Terrible....awful....inexcusable.
Jeffery > 1.6

2015 1st > 2.6 + 2015 2nd

I'm a fan of Brown and Robinson so I don't have a problem with the 1.12 for them.

Too cheap for Jeffery but assuming the 2015 1st is late it's not THAT terrible.
To each their own, but it's absolutely awful IMO.

Jeffery is a Top 10 dynasty WR right now with Top 1 upside.

The 2015 1st could be removed and it still would be horrible.

 
FFPC 1.5 TE PPR

Reggie Bush RB

Antonio Gates TE

for

Doug Martin RB

Percy Harvin WR

Back in May startups Martin was #1 overall in many drafts and top 3 in almost all, Harvin a top 20 pick

Bush a 3rd/4th rounder and Gates a 10th rounder
Hugely short-sighted by the team trading Martin and Harvin. I'm a win now owner generally, but this one is pretty horrendous. Martin and Harvin are cornerstone players for the next half decade plus.
well the guy getting Bush and Gates is quitting the league so.......................
I almost never favor a veto, but that deserves a veto. It's a league altering trade that greatly weakens the team for whoever gets it next year.
I was the party in this trade receiving Martin and Harvin. In a vacuum, this trade is in fact lopsided. I thought some context surrounding the trade would help.

First of all, whether this owner will stay or go after the year is speculation only. The evidence backing up Ghostguy’s claims, as far as I know, is strictly the trade itself. The owner of this team has been one of the top owners over the last 3 years.

As for the attractiveness of this team next year if the owner were to leave, the team is left with Cam Newton, Eddie Lacy, Reggie Bush, Lesean McCoy, Cecil Shorts, Stevie Johnson, Mike Wallace, Jordan Cameron, Antonio Gates, Greg Olsen (remember, 1.5 PPR). If this team hits the open market, it will likely be the first team snapped up (at no less than full price). No issues with marketability at all.

Third, from my team’s perspective, as odd as it may seem, I was torn on making this trade despite the heavy value on the Martin/Harvin side. I considered my team as the top contender for 2013, but I had no RB depth behind Trent Richardson and Reggie Bush. My 2013 hopes now rest with….Jonathan Stewart and the successful recovery of David Wilson??? Yikes.

My team in general lacked depth (partly due to the loss of Julio Jones and the investment in futures like Cordarrelle), but counting starters only, with Reggie Bush (and backup Antonio Gates), the team was very strong (WRs/TE even minus Julio were Calvin, AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas and Harry Douglas with Gronk in 1.5 PPR) and still one of the top scoring teams in the FFPC’s 20+ leagues. This trade was not simply a trade of now for the future. It was quite possibly a trade of a TITLE in 2013 for the future.

Because of the above, what should have been a slam dunk accept/offer was not one. It started with a Martin for Bush inquiry which I shot down immediately. I would not trade a title for what “may” be an upgrade of Bush to Martin in the future. Bush is as great in Detroit as some predicted he would be. He looks absolutely dynamic. While already 28, I don’t know that he has fewer stud years than lets say Ray Rice whom many consider to be “still young”. I’m not even sure that Bush has fewer stud years in him than Martin himself. I don’t like my RBs once they hit 26, but once you get to 28 and still look strong, its difficult to say that the strong looking 28 year old will run out of gas before the 26 year old (because to me, they are both already old). As such, Bush for Martin wasn’t a consideration. Contrary to Dez’s post, the fact that Martin was drafted early in startup drafts and Bush much later is now irrelevant. Circumstances have changed. In this league, at this time, I preferred Bush over Martin.

Question then is, what profit would be great enough where I would be willing to trade Bush and what was looking to be a title in 2013? Keep in mind, this is not just any title, since $4500 goes along with it. The answer: I needed Harvin’s value over Gates to make it worth my while and risk.

So this was not the typical situation where a team looking to rebuild was selling older vets to a team looking to win now. This was the top “redraft” team, late in the season, jeopardizing and likely crushing its own title hopes for the sake of future gains, and possibly handing the keys to the 2013 championship car to another contending team. Even considering the future gains, one might argue that my team ALREADY had enough for the future and did not need to risk 2013. I certainly considered that and it is quite possible that this move will reduce my overall winning potential (because of the 2013 loss) rather than increase it.

Finally and what I think is most important in evaluating the trade is how the trade went down and the opportunity that was given to all owners. This owner announced to the league that he wanted to win now and would take the best offer for his injured players (i.e., Martin and Harvin). He announced this not once, but twice.

Having been given the opportunity, I don’t think anyone in the league was willing to give more than Bush and Gates for Martin and Harvin (and the fact is, no one offered more). I’m pretty sure none of the contenders would have made a better offer even if the sale were conducted auction style.

Ghostguy and Dez, you two now have perhaps the top redraft team in this very league. Would you have offered more and jeopardized your own title run? If so, what would you have offered that would provide a bigger punch than Bush and Gates, and why did you not offer it? Or, did you decide that you were “all in” this year and that offering your firepower was not in the best interest of your team?

When I made my offer (which again was not the slam dunk that I would normally think it would be), I knew there was a risk that someone else in the league (like another one of the better teams like Dez/Ghostguy) could benefit from a great deal instead of me, but judging from my own trepidation in making this trade, I was confident my fellow contending owners (especially those without yet a title under their belts) would feel the trepidation even more. In the off chance that perhaps Ghostguy/Dez would step up and beat the offer, I really wouldn’t have minded (possibly even celebrated). I would have LOVED it if Dez/Ghostguy stepped up and traded away Marshawn Lynch and Jason Witten for Martin/Harvin as an example.

As such, considering that (1) I had little to no wiggle room in my own offer due to my team’s circumstances and (2) I was confident no one would beat my offer for the same reasons, in this league, at this time, Bush and Gates was the right price for Martin and Harvin (as strange as that may sound).

Now whether this owner should have gone this direction in the first place is a different question entirely. I would never advise any team to make such a trade. I certainly would never make such a trade no matter the circumstances. But the lure of $4500 can be great, and with Martin and Harvin, this team was dead in the water in 2013. Given the strong desire to trade those two non-productive “future” pieces in order to win now, a desire felt by many a dynasty owner, Bush and Gates really was the best this team could do.

Ok, flame away :)
Sorry to be bumping such an old post but..............................

That owner in quesiton who traded away Martin/Harvin for Bush/Gates had such a strong desire to "win now" because, as predicted.................his team is now up for sale. As in, quitting the league.

And no Ernol, I didn't suspect it because of this trade. I knew it before this trade even happened.

 
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FFPC 1.5 TE PPR

Reggie Bush RB

Antonio Gates TE

for

Doug Martin RB

Percy Harvin WR

Back in May startups Martin was #1 overall in many drafts and top 3 in almost all, Harvin a top 20 pick

Bush a 3rd/4th rounder and Gates a 10th rounder
Hugely short-sighted by the team trading Martin and Harvin. I'm a win now owner generally, but this one is pretty horrendous. Martin and Harvin are cornerstone players for the next half decade plus.
well the guy getting Bush and Gates is quitting the league so.......................
I almost never favor a veto, but that deserves a veto. It's a league altering trade that greatly weakens the team for whoever gets it next year.
I was the party in this trade receiving Martin and Harvin. In a vacuum, this trade is in fact lopsided. I thought some context surrounding the trade would help.

First of all, whether this owner will stay or go after the year is speculation only. The evidence backing up Ghostguy’s claims, as far as I know, is strictly the trade itself. The owner of this team has been one of the top owners over the last 3 years.

As for the attractiveness of this team next year if the owner were to leave, the team is left with Cam Newton, Eddie Lacy, Reggie Bush, Lesean McCoy, Cecil Shorts, Stevie Johnson, Mike Wallace, Jordan Cameron, Antonio Gates, Greg Olsen (remember, 1.5 PPR). If this team hits the open market, it will likely be the first team snapped up (at no less than full price). No issues with marketability at all.

Third, from my team’s perspective, as odd as it may seem, I was torn on making this trade despite the heavy value on the Martin/Harvin side. I considered my team as the top contender for 2013, but I had no RB depth behind Trent Richardson and Reggie Bush. My 2013 hopes now rest with….Jonathan Stewart and the successful recovery of David Wilson??? Yikes.

My team in general lacked depth (partly due to the loss of Julio Jones and the investment in futures like Cordarrelle), but counting starters only, with Reggie Bush (and backup Antonio Gates), the team was very strong (WRs/TE even minus Julio were Calvin, AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas and Harry Douglas with Gronk in 1.5 PPR) and still one of the top scoring teams in the FFPC’s 20+ leagues. This trade was not simply a trade of now for the future. It was quite possibly a trade of a TITLE in 2013 for the future.

Because of the above, what should have been a slam dunk accept/offer was not one. It started with a Martin for Bush inquiry which I shot down immediately. I would not trade a title for what “may” be an upgrade of Bush to Martin in the future. Bush is as great in Detroit as some predicted he would be. He looks absolutely dynamic. While already 28, I don’t know that he has fewer stud years than lets say Ray Rice whom many consider to be “still young”. I’m not even sure that Bush has fewer stud years in him than Martin himself. I don’t like my RBs once they hit 26, but once you get to 28 and still look strong, its difficult to say that the strong looking 28 year old will run out of gas before the 26 year old (because to me, they are both already old). As such, Bush for Martin wasn’t a consideration. Contrary to Dez’s post, the fact that Martin was drafted early in startup drafts and Bush much later is now irrelevant. Circumstances have changed. In this league, at this time, I preferred Bush over Martin.

Question then is, what profit would be great enough where I would be willing to trade Bush and what was looking to be a title in 2013? Keep in mind, this is not just any title, since $4500 goes along with it. The answer: I needed Harvin’s value over Gates to make it worth my while and risk.

So this was not the typical situation where a team looking to rebuild was selling older vets to a team looking to win now. This was the top “redraft” team, late in the season, jeopardizing and likely crushing its own title hopes for the sake of future gains, and possibly handing the keys to the 2013 championship car to another contending team. Even considering the future gains, one might argue that my team ALREADY had enough for the future and did not need to risk 2013. I certainly considered that and it is quite possible that this move will reduce my overall winning potential (because of the 2013 loss) rather than increase it.

Finally and what I think is most important in evaluating the trade is how the trade went down and the opportunity that was given to all owners. This owner announced to the league that he wanted to win now and would take the best offer for his injured players (i.e., Martin and Harvin). He announced this not once, but twice.

Having been given the opportunity, I don’t think anyone in the league was willing to give more than Bush and Gates for Martin and Harvin (and the fact is, no one offered more). I’m pretty sure none of the contenders would have made a better offer even if the sale were conducted auction style.

Ghostguy and Dez, you two now have perhaps the top redraft team in this very league. Would you have offered more and jeopardized your own title run? If so, what would you have offered that would provide a bigger punch than Bush and Gates, and why did you not offer it? Or, did you decide that you were “all in” this year and that offering your firepower was not in the best interest of your team?

When I made my offer (which again was not the slam dunk that I would normally think it would be), I knew there was a risk that someone else in the league (like another one of the better teams like Dez/Ghostguy) could benefit from a great deal instead of me, but judging from my own trepidation in making this trade, I was confident my fellow contending owners (especially those without yet a title under their belts) would feel the trepidation even more. In the off chance that perhaps Ghostguy/Dez would step up and beat the offer, I really wouldn’t have minded (possibly even celebrated). I would have LOVED it if Dez/Ghostguy stepped up and traded away Marshawn Lynch and Jason Witten for Martin/Harvin as an example.

As such, considering that (1) I had little to no wiggle room in my own offer due to my team’s circumstances and (2) I was confident no one would beat my offer for the same reasons, in this league, at this time, Bush and Gates was the right price for Martin and Harvin (as strange as that may sound).

Now whether this owner should have gone this direction in the first place is a different question entirely. I would never advise any team to make such a trade. I certainly would never make such a trade no matter the circumstances. But the lure of $4500 can be great, and with Martin and Harvin, this team was dead in the water in 2013. Given the strong desire to trade those two non-productive “future” pieces in order to win now, a desire felt by many a dynasty owner, Bush and Gates really was the best this team could do.

Ok, flame away :)
Sorry to be bumping such an old post but..............................

That owner in quesiton who traded away Martin/Harvin for Bush/Gates had such a strong desire to "win now" because, as predicted.................his team is now up for sale. As in, quitting the league.

And no Ernol, I didn't suspect it because of this trade. I knew it before this trade even happened.
Curious....where did these two teams finish?

 
CoachJankySpanky said:
12 team, non-ppr

Gave:

K. Hunter

K. Thompkins

3 2014 1sts (One looks to be the 1.01, another will be top-5 and the third one from a team very iffy to make the playoffs)

For:

L. Miller

Dez
Curious about any thoughts on this one after the dust has settled. The picks ended up being the 1.01, 1.05 and 1.10.
Still Dez side for me by a margin.

KHunter and Thompkins are non factors in the deal.

Miller >=1.10

Dez >>>>> 1.01, 1.05

Unless you think Watkins is going to be better or nearly equal to Dez

 
ghostguy123 said:
FFPC 1.5 TE PPR

Reggie Bush RB

Antonio Gates TE

for

Doug Martin RB

Percy Harvin WR

Back in May startups Martin was #1 overall in many drafts and top 3 in almost all, Harvin a top 20 pick

Bush a 3rd/4th rounder and Gates a 10th rounder
Hugely short-sighted by the team trading Martin and Harvin. I'm a win now owner generally, but this one is pretty horrendous. Martin and Harvin are cornerstone players for the next half decade plus.
well the guy getting Bush and Gates is quitting the league so.......................
I almost never favor a veto, but that deserves a veto. It's a league altering trade that greatly weakens the team for whoever gets it next year.
I was the party in this trade receiving Martin and Harvin. In a vacuum, this trade is in fact lopsided. I thought some context surrounding the trade would help.

First of all, whether this owner will stay or go after the year is speculation only. The evidence backing up Ghostguy’s claims, as far as I know, is strictly the trade itself. The owner of this team has been one of the top owners over the last 3 years.

As for the attractiveness of this team next year if the owner were to leave, the team is left with Cam Newton, Eddie Lacy, Reggie Bush, Lesean McCoy, Cecil Shorts, Stevie Johnson, Mike Wallace, Jordan Cameron, Antonio Gates, Greg Olsen (remember, 1.5 PPR). If this team hits the open market, it will likely be the first team snapped up (at no less than full price). No issues with marketability at all.

Third, from my team’s perspective, as odd as it may seem, I was torn on making this trade despite the heavy value on the Martin/Harvin side. I considered my team as the top contender for 2013, but I had no RB depth behind Trent Richardson and Reggie Bush. My 2013 hopes now rest with….Jonathan Stewart and the successful recovery of David Wilson??? Yikes.

My team in general lacked depth (partly due to the loss of Julio Jones and the investment in futures like Cordarrelle), but counting starters only, with Reggie Bush (and backup Antonio Gates), the team was very strong (WRs/TE even minus Julio were Calvin, AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas and Harry Douglas with Gronk in 1.5 PPR) and still one of the top scoring teams in the FFPC’s 20+ leagues. This trade was not simply a trade of now for the future. It was quite possibly a trade of a TITLE in 2013 for the future.

Because of the above, what should have been a slam dunk accept/offer was not one. It started with a Martin for Bush inquiry which I shot down immediately. I would not trade a title for what “may” be an upgrade of Bush to Martin in the future. Bush is as great in Detroit as some predicted he would be. He looks absolutely dynamic. While already 28, I don’t know that he has fewer stud years than lets say Ray Rice whom many consider to be “still young”. I’m not even sure that Bush has fewer stud years in him than Martin himself. I don’t like my RBs once they hit 26, but once you get to 28 and still look strong, its difficult to say that the strong looking 28 year old will run out of gas before the 26 year old (because to me, they are both already old). As such, Bush for Martin wasn’t a consideration. Contrary to Dez’s post, the fact that Martin was drafted early in startup drafts and Bush much later is now irrelevant. Circumstances have changed. In this league, at this time, I preferred Bush over Martin.

Question then is, what profit would be great enough where I would be willing to trade Bush and what was looking to be a title in 2013? Keep in mind, this is not just any title, since $4500 goes along with it. The answer: I needed Harvin’s value over Gates to make it worth my while and risk.

So this was not the typical situation where a team looking to rebuild was selling older vets to a team looking to win now. This was the top “redraft” team, late in the season, jeopardizing and likely crushing its own title hopes for the sake of future gains, and possibly handing the keys to the 2013 championship car to another contending team. Even considering the future gains, one might argue that my team ALREADY had enough for the future and did not need to risk 2013. I certainly considered that and it is quite possible that this move will reduce my overall winning potential (because of the 2013 loss) rather than increase it.

Finally and what I think is most important in evaluating the trade is how the trade went down and the opportunity that was given to all owners. This owner announced to the league that he wanted to win now and would take the best offer for his injured players (i.e., Martin and Harvin). He announced this not once, but twice.

Having been given the opportunity, I don’t think anyone in the league was willing to give more than Bush and Gates for Martin and Harvin (and the fact is, no one offered more). I’m pretty sure none of the contenders would have made a better offer even if the sale were conducted auction style.

Ghostguy and Dez, you two now have perhaps the top redraft team in this very league. Would you have offered more and jeopardized your own title run? If so, what would you have offered that would provide a bigger punch than Bush and Gates, and why did you not offer it? Or, did you decide that you were “all in” this year and that offering your firepower was not in the best interest of your team?

When I made my offer (which again was not the slam dunk that I would normally think it would be), I knew there was a risk that someone else in the league (like another one of the better teams like Dez/Ghostguy) could benefit from a great deal instead of me, but judging from my own trepidation in making this trade, I was confident my fellow contending owners (especially those without yet a title under their belts) would feel the trepidation even more. In the off chance that perhaps Ghostguy/Dez would step up and beat the offer, I really wouldn’t have minded (possibly even celebrated). I would have LOVED it if Dez/Ghostguy stepped up and traded away Marshawn Lynch and Jason Witten for Martin/Harvin as an example.

As such, considering that (1) I had little to no wiggle room in my own offer due to my team’s circumstances and (2) I was confident no one would beat my offer for the same reasons, in this league, at this time, Bush and Gates was the right price for Martin and Harvin (as strange as that may sound).

Now whether this owner should have gone this direction in the first place is a different question entirely. I would never advise any team to make such a trade. I certainly would never make such a trade no matter the circumstances. But the lure of $4500 can be great, and with Martin and Harvin, this team was dead in the water in 2013. Given the strong desire to trade those two non-productive “future” pieces in order to win now, a desire felt by many a dynasty owner, Bush and Gates really was the best this team could do.

Ok, flame away :)
Sorry to be bumping such an old post but..............................

That owner in quesiton who traded away Martin/Harvin for Bush/Gates had such a strong desire to "win now" because, as predicted.................his team is now up for sale. As in, quitting the league.

And no Ernol, I didn't suspect it because of this trade. I knew it before this trade even happened.
That one was not going to look any better after the guy quit unless Martin and Harvin retired before he left the league.

The trade itself was an indicator he was going all in on this year and likely jumping ship. Martin is worth more than both of those guys and probably Harvin is too depending on scoring.

 
CoachJankySpanky said:
12 team, non-ppr

Gave:

K. Hunter

K. Thompkins

3 2014 1sts (One looks to be the 1.01, another will be top-5 and the third one from a team very iffy to make the playoffs)

For:

L. Miller

Dez
Curious about any thoughts on this one after the dust has settled. The picks ended up being the 1.01, 1.05 and 1.10.
Still Dez side for me by a margin.

KHunter and Thompkins are non factors in the deal.

Miller >=1.10

Dez >>>>> 1.01, 1.05

Unless you think Watkins is going to be better or nearly equal to Dez
This one is pretty close, and I think the side I pick would depend on the makup of my team

 
CoachJankySpanky said:
12 team, non-ppr

Gave:

K. Hunter

K. Thompkins

3 2014 1sts (One looks to be the 1.01, another will be top-5 and the third one from a team very iffy to make the playoffs)

For:

L. Miller

Dez
Curious about any thoughts on this one after the dust has settled. The picks ended up being the 1.01, 1.05 and 1.10.
In non-PPR, I'm likely taking the picks and drafting the top RB in the class at 1.01. I'm not a believer in Miller, however.

 
Took over a team 2 weeks ago, and am in absolute rebuild mode... as in, I dont think this team has a chance for at least 2 years to win it all.

Just as a note: My WR "depth consisted of Jordy Nelson as WR1, and my WR2 is............... greg jennings.

It's PPR (1pt)

Completed the following two deals for my rebuild so far:

1) gave up Jamal Charles. Got Josh Gordon (Im VERY high on Gordon, as in top 3... and like I mentioned, rebuild)

2) Gave up Peyton, this year's 2.06, and next years 1st, for Dez Bryant and this year's 3rd

Now trying to secure the 1.01 for Watkins or Evans (at 1.05 currently)

 
Took over a team 2 weeks ago, and am in absolute rebuild mode... as in, I dont think this team has a chance for at least 2 years to win it all.

Just as a note: My WR "depth consisted of Jordy Nelson as WR1, and my WR2 is............... greg jennings.

It's PPR (1pt)

Completed the following two deals for my rebuild so far:

1) gave up Jamal Charles. Got Josh Gordon (Im VERY high on Gordon, as in top 3... and like I mentioned, rebuild)

2) Gave up Peyton, this year's 2.06, and next years 1st, for Dez Bryant and this year's 3rd

Now trying to secure the 1.01 for Watkins or Evans (at 1.05 currently)
Love these moves for a long term rebuild.

 
Took over a team 2 weeks ago, and am in absolute rebuild mode... as in, I dont think this team has a chance for at least 2 years to win it all.

Just as a note: My WR "depth consisted of Jordy Nelson as WR1, and my WR2 is............... greg jennings.

It's PPR (1pt)

Completed the following two deals for my rebuild so far:

1) gave up Jamal Charles. Got Josh Gordon (Im VERY high on Gordon, as in top 3... and like I mentioned, rebuild)

2) Gave up Peyton, this year's 2.06, and next years 1st, for Dez Bryant and this year's 3rd

Now trying to secure the 1.01 for Watkins or Evans (at 1.05 currently)
Love these moves for a long term rebuild.
thank you, sir.

Got some flack from some of my leaguemates (we're all good buddies), especially w the Charles trade... But I traded the 2 guys who are a lock to win it this and next year...

Im looking for 2+years from now, when I can own the league for a good stretch. Love the deals, myself.

 
I could go either way on the first trade, kind of feel like you might have been able to get something extra with Gordon, but who knows.

Like the second for you for sure.

 
I could go either way on the first trade, kind of feel like you might have been able to get something extra with Gordon, but who knows.

Like the second for you for sure.
I actually had to barter with him to do Gordon for Charles straight up... he wanted jamal + a pick.

So overall I was happy going 1 for 1.

and yes, the second seems heavy on the cover, but he's going to win the league w Manning, and for me, doesnt matter cuz if all goes as planned.. ill be winning myself in 2-3yrs

 
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I could go either way on the first trade, kind of feel like you might have been able to get something extra with Gordon, but who knows.

Like the second for you for sure.
I actually had to barter with him to do Gordon for Charles straight up... he wanted jamal + a pick.

So overall I was happy going 1 for 1.

and yes, the second seems heavy on the cover, but he's going to win the league w Manning, and for me, doesnt matter cuz if all goes as planned.. ill be winning myself in 2-3yrs
I definitely like the strategy of making these kinds of deals with the strongest teams in the league. Everyone else will hate it, but it's your best chance for success in the future to take away their young stud assetts. As long as the value of the traded you are making isnt so bad they can just flip what you gave them.

 
As mentioned previously, Im in rebuild mode, hard.. as Ive taken over a team from someone

W Nelson, Gordon and Dez in my WR corps, should I trade Jordy Nelson for the 1.04 this year, 1st rnd next year and Stevie Johnson?

I have the 1.05 pick as well this year, and think I'll land 2 of tre mason, hyde, watkins, evans, lee w those picks.

My 1st is gone next season already

 
With nelson, Gordon, and dez, do you really need to rebuild?

If you are very short at rb and TE then yes, seems like an ok deal, but I would go after someone other than Steve Johnson as the player involved.

 
With nelson, Gordon, and dez, do you really need to rebuild?

If you are very short at rb and TE then yes, seems like an ok deal, but I would go after someone other than Steve Johnson as the player involved.
I look at it this way - Love Nelson, but he'll be 29 going into next season. I know he's prime right now, w a sick QB... but if Im looking at running a long running championship team in 2 years from now, would I want to sell Nelson for say.... Mason/Watkins/Evans. + getting a 1st rnd pick next season

Potentially yes.

 
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With nelson, Gordon, and dez, do you really need to rebuild?

If you are very short at rb and TE then yes, seems like an ok deal, but I would go after someone other than Steve Johnson as the player involved.
I look at it this way - Love Nelson, but he'll be 29 going into next season. I know he's prime right now, w a sick QB... but if Im looking at running a long running championship team in 2 years from now, would I want to sell Nelson for say.... Mason/Watkins/Evans. + getting a 1st rnd pick next season

Potentially yes.
"Potentially" yes? For Nelson? Seems like a slam dunk to me, rebuild or no.

 
With nelson, Gordon, and dez, do you really need to rebuild?

If you are very short at rb and TE then yes, seems like an ok deal, but I would go after someone other than Steve Johnson as the player involved.
I look at it this way - Love Nelson, but he'll be 29 going into next season. I know he's prime right now, w a sick QB... but if Im looking at running a long running championship team in 2 years from now, would I want to sell Nelson for say.... Mason/Watkins/Evans. + getting a 1st rnd pick next season

Potentially yes.
"Potentially" yes? For Nelson? Seems like a slam dunk to me, rebuild or no.
Slam dunk? Definitely wouldnt say that...

Care to share why?

 
As mentioned previously, Im in rebuild mode, hard.. as Ive taken over a team from someone

W Nelson, Gordon and Dez in my WR corps, should I trade Jordy Nelson for the 1.04 this year, 1st rnd next year and Stevie Johnson?

I have the 1.05 pick as well this year, and think I'll land 2 of tre mason, hyde, watkins, evans, lee w those picks.

My 1st is gone next season already
Highly doubt anyone will give up 1.04 and a future first for Nelson.

 
As mentioned previously, Im in rebuild mode, hard.. as Ive taken over a team from someone

W Nelson, Gordon and Dez in my WR corps, should I trade Jordy Nelson for the 1.04 this year, 1st rnd next year and Stevie Johnson?

I have the 1.05 pick as well this year, and think I'll land 2 of tre mason, hyde, watkins, evans, lee w those picks.

My 1st is gone next season already
Highly doubt anyone will give up 1.04 and a future first for Nelson.
I have the offer on the table

 
As mentioned previously, Im in rebuild mode, hard.. as Ive taken over a team from someone

W Nelson, Gordon and Dez in my WR corps, should I trade Jordy Nelson for the 1.04 this year, 1st rnd next year and Stevie Johnson?

I have the 1.05 pick as well this year, and think I'll land 2 of tre mason, hyde, watkins, evans, lee w those picks.

My 1st is gone next season already
Highly doubt anyone will give up 1.04 and a future first for Nelson.
I have the offer on the table
Then take it immediately

 
As mentioned previously, Im in rebuild mode, hard.. as Ive taken over a team from someone

W Nelson, Gordon and Dez in my WR corps, should I trade Jordy Nelson for the 1.04 this year, 1st rnd next year and Stevie Johnson?

I have the 1.05 pick as well this year, and think I'll land 2 of tre mason, hyde, watkins, evans, lee w those picks.

My 1st is gone next season already
Highly doubt anyone will give up 1.04 and a future first for Nelson.
I have the offer on the table
Then take it immediately
Thought process?

 
With nelson, Gordon, and dez, do you really need to rebuild?

If you are very short at rb and TE then yes, seems like an ok deal, but I would go after someone other than Steve Johnson as the player involved.
I look at it this way - Love Nelson, but he'll be 29 going into next season. I know he's prime right now, w a sick QB... but if Im looking at running a long running championship team in 2 years from now, would I want to sell Nelson for say.... Mason/Watkins/Evans. + getting a 1st rnd pick next season

Potentially yes.
"Potentially" yes? For Nelson? Seems like a slam dunk to me, rebuild or no.
Slam dunk? Definitely wouldnt say that...

Care to share why?
I would in the Assistant Coach forum if you go ahead and present the question there.

 

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