Concept Coop
Footballguy
I like the the first one, assuming the IDP scoring isn't crazy.
And turning Williams into Finley and a 3rd is solid too.
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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)
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And turning Williams into Finley and a 3rd is solid too.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
True. Only those in the league can really make that call. I wouldn't be a fan if the pick ended up 1.05 or 1.06.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
that looks like robbery ... getting Calvin and an intriguing prospect, unless you're a bump-finley-bro
UltimateWarrior721
Footballguy
12 Team IDP PPR, Team/Scoring in Sig
Made this trade prior to kickoff Sunday
Gave: Jerrell Freeman (19PPG)
Got: Jordan Cameron (22PPG)
Made this trade prior to kickoff Sunday
Gave: Jerrell Freeman (19PPG)
Got: Jordan Cameron (22PPG)
cstu
Footballguy
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I'll defer to others but those all seem like Floyd level prospects not Julio, Green. JMO.
Spin
Footballguy
Curious about thoughts on this one. I wasn't involved but thought it was an interesting trade.
Any thoughts on these two deals? =)12 team league where I'm 5-2 after 6 weeks (week 3 is a double game week so everyone plays everyone plus 2 games in the division in the regular season). Its a PPR, start 1 QB 1 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 DEF 1 K 1 Flex RB/WR
My roster before tonight:
QB: Cutler/Stafford/Wilson/Manuel
RB: McCoy/B. Brown/Bernard/Lamar Miller/D Thomas/McGahee
WR: CJ/Amendola/Mike Will Tampa/Jennings/Pettis/L. Moore
TE: Jimmy G/Bennett/Fleener
DEF: Denver
K: Vinatieri
Trade one:
Gave: Coby Fleener
Received: Marques Colston
Trade two:
Gave: my 2014 2nd (should be late in the 9-12 range)
Received: Stevie Johnson
I feel like I'm contending this year and I didn't give up much in the grand scheme of things to get two very useful pieces (especially as CJ, Mike Williams, L Moore and Amendola are dinged up, and I know Stevie now adds to that)
I also didn't realise 'til I checked that Stevie is only 27
I dropped Pettis after the 2nd trade, I still see value in Lance Moore!
I think it's a win for the Gronk side, Reed is starting to look good but if Gronk comes back 100% and plays the next 5 years it's a steal but that's the crux of the trade. Can come back 100% and even if he does how long will he last? I can understand why but it's difficult to move a top 3 guy at any position without any similar level of player coming back. Yes the picks could become that but they are maybes but so is Gronk's health now and going forward.
In conclusion I probably take the Gronk side but fully understand both sides of the deal, an interesting one for sure =)
EBF
Footballguy
Might prefer Fleener to Colston at this point just because Colston seems like he might finally be hitting the wall.Any thoughts on these two deals? =)12 team league where I'm 5-2 after 6 weeks (week 3 is a double game week so everyone plays everyone plus 2 games in the division in the regular season). Its a PPR, start 1 QB 1 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 DEF 1 K 1 Flex RB/WR
My roster before tonight:
QB: Cutler/Stafford/Wilson/Manuel
RB: McCoy/B. Brown/Bernard/Lamar Miller/D Thomas/McGahee
WR: CJ/Amendola/Mike Will Tampa/Jennings/Pettis/L. Moore
TE: Jimmy G/Bennett/Fleener
DEF: Denver
K: Vinatieri
Trade one:
Gave: Coby Fleener
Received: Marques Colston
Trade two:
Gave: my 2014 2nd (should be late in the 9-12 range)
Received: Stevie Johnson
I feel like I'm contending this year and I didn't give up much in the grand scheme of things to get two very useful pieces (especially as CJ, Mike Williams, L Moore and Amendola are dinged up, and I know Stevie now adds to that)
I also didn't realise 'til I checked that Stevie is only 27
I dropped Pettis after the 2nd trade, I still see value in Lance Moore!
I like the Stevie deal though. I wouldn't give up a 1st round pick for him in a standard league, but for a 2nd he's good value. He could have 2-3 useful seasons left and that's more than you'd probably get from a random 2nd round rookie.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 team ppr QRRWWTFKD
Worked out a huge deal. Probably lost the trade as of values for right now, but could win huge in a few years. Both teams are 3-3, I was tied in my division but didn't feel like I had the stable of RB's to win a playoff game.
Gave: Terrelle Pryor, Ryan Mathews, Daryl Richardson, A.J. Green, Jordan Cameron
Received: Alex Smith, Trent Richardson, James Starks, Alshon Jeffrey, Rob Gronkowski, '14 1st (guessing 1.08-1.12)
Core is currently
Luck, Smith, Big Ben
TRich, DMC, DWill
BMarsh, Harvin, Alshon, Torrey Smith, Denarius, Broyles, Hunter
Gronk, Fleener, Finley
Also trying to work out some deal with BMarsh for Cobb and play for a run next year.
I'm high on Alshon, even before the back to back games he put together as I acquired him in three leagues during the offseason, but this deal definitely hinges on whether TRich gets it going in Indy and Gronk not getting reinjured.
Also saw in a 12 team ppr QRRWWWTKF
Team A gives: Jarrett Boykin
Team B gives: Anquan Boldin
Team B has Randall Cobb and was tired of Q's inconsistency.
Worked out a huge deal. Probably lost the trade as of values for right now, but could win huge in a few years. Both teams are 3-3, I was tied in my division but didn't feel like I had the stable of RB's to win a playoff game.
Gave: Terrelle Pryor, Ryan Mathews, Daryl Richardson, A.J. Green, Jordan Cameron
Received: Alex Smith, Trent Richardson, James Starks, Alshon Jeffrey, Rob Gronkowski, '14 1st (guessing 1.08-1.12)
Core is currently
Luck, Smith, Big Ben
TRich, DMC, DWill
BMarsh, Harvin, Alshon, Torrey Smith, Denarius, Broyles, Hunter
Gronk, Fleener, Finley
Also trying to work out some deal with BMarsh for Cobb and play for a run next year.
I'm high on Alshon, even before the back to back games he put together as I acquired him in three leagues during the offseason, but this deal definitely hinges on whether TRich gets it going in Indy and Gronk not getting reinjured.
Also saw in a 12 team ppr QRRWWWTKF
Team A gives: Jarrett Boykin
Team B gives: Anquan Boldin
Team B has Randall Cobb and was tired of Q's inconsistency.
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cmbigd4life
Footballguy
16 team IDP PPR
Team A gives: Torrey Smith
Team B gives: Randall Cobb.
Team A gives: Torrey Smith
Team B gives: Randall Cobb.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Depends how your league does the picks.
One league I am in I can guess the top 6 within 1 pretty easy, but some have losers bracket playoffs, which makes it very hard.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Team A gave:
Trent Richardson
Percy Harvin
Bryce Brown
Khiry Robinson
2015 3rd
Team B gave:
Arian Foster
Brandon Marshall
Daryl Richardson
Jerome Simpson
2015 2nd
A is a prospective contender decimated by injury. B has been punching above its weight but probably needed to rebuild.
EDIT: 12 team 0.5 PPR QRRWWD with a RB/WR flex and a WR/TE flex
Trent Richardson
Percy Harvin
Bryce Brown
Khiry Robinson
2015 3rd
Team B gave:
Arian Foster
Brandon Marshall
Daryl Richardson
Jerome Simpson
2015 2nd
A is a prospective contender decimated by injury. B has been punching above its weight but probably needed to rebuild.
EDIT: 12 team 0.5 PPR QRRWWD with a RB/WR flex and a WR/TE flex
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Traded: Brady, Cobb, Roddy
Received: Brees, Colston, Miles Austin
Made a desperation move for this year. Brady has been losing every week for me and I got tired of it. I hate to mortgage the future for a shot at the championship, but after 12 years in a league and falling just a little short on luck every year, I am tired of waiting. Just hoping I can move colston and Austin for picks or young players. That may be a daunting task though at the rate they are playing.
Received: Brees, Colston, Miles Austin
Made a desperation move for this year. Brady has been losing every week for me and I got tired of it. I hate to mortgage the future for a shot at the championship, but after 12 years in a league and falling just a little short on luck every year, I am tired of waiting. Just hoping I can move colston and Austin for picks or young players. That may be a daunting task though at the rate they are playing.
Spin
Footballguy
This was pretty much my take on it. I think the Gronk owner likely got a bit tired of waiting and moved him for what he saw as a top 10 TE going forward and a couple of mid to high picks. Both could end up top 4 since the team that was 4-2 just lost one of his best WR and is going to be trotting out 3 of Torrey Smith/Djax/Sidney Rice/Britt/Ford/Roberts.
I can see it from both sides, but would still likely lean Gronk.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Spin
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
Sorry for double dipping, but can I get any opinions if one side is "taking it on the chin" in this trade:
Team A (contending) - gets Cam Newton, Dem. Thomas
Team B (playing for next year) - gets Pryor, Julio, Zac Stacy, early 1st (likely 1.02-1.03)
Team A (contending) - gets Cam Newton, Dem. Thomas
Team B (playing for next year) - gets Pryor, Julio, Zac Stacy, early 1st (likely 1.02-1.03)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
adrenaline
Footballguy
Was offered Julius Thomas for my 2014 1st, I accepted with the quickness. I'm 2-4, non-ppr.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
At 2-4, I'm not so sure I would have taken that offer. Only thing worse than losing in a dynasty, is losing without having your first round pick.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Traded MJD for Chistine Michael in a deep keeper. 0-6. MJD would be $41 to keep (Michael $15).
Without MJD coming off a decent week and Michael racking up another DNP, I probably couldn't have gotten it done.
Hated to do it. I've had MJD in that league since taking him in the 14th round as a rookie. He had to go for any young asset I could get though.
Without MJD coming off a decent week and Michael racking up another DNP, I probably couldn't have gotten it done.
Hated to do it. I've had MJD in that league since taking him in the 14th round as a rookie. He had to go for any young asset I could get though.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
He definitely didn't want, but the format is also a factor.
It's not really a dynasty. Just a deep keeper. 12 teams, 18-man rosters. Keep everyone you want with auction costs going up $5/season.
In this format, it's awfully hard to stash a guy for very long, if he's not fairly close to paying off. Doable, but there's just not quite enough space to play for too far into the future very often.
It's not really a dynasty. Just a deep keeper. 12 teams, 18-man rosters. Keep everyone you want with auction costs going up $5/season.
In this format, it's awfully hard to stash a guy for very long, if he's not fairly close to paying off. Doable, but there's just not quite enough space to play for too far into the future very often.
Spin
Footballguy
adrenaline
Footballguy
Funny thing is it will likely be a mid-round pick, I would take Thomas over any 2014 rookie.Dr. Octopus said:
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Donsmith753
Footballguy
12 team PPR can only start 3 WR's max
Gave
Welker
James Jones
6th
for
Garcon
I'm strongish at WR and wanted to get younger/consolidate. 3-3 at this point and think I can manage Welkers absence.
Left with AJG, Blackmon, Nelson, Decker, Garcon, Thompkins, Britt, Wheaton
Gave
Welker
James Jones
6th
for
Garcon
I'm strongish at WR and wanted to get younger/consolidate. 3-3 at this point and think I can manage Welkers absence.
Left with AJG, Blackmon, Nelson, Decker, Garcon, Thompkins, Britt, Wheaton
FUBAR
Footballguy
Six weeks ago one would have laughed at the JT owner for offering this, but now the Julius Thomas owners are laughing at the other side for offering it.
Julius Thomas and it isn't remotely close for me, and I still seem to like Matthews/Miller more than most.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
I still prefer the Thomas side here, but IMO there are still big time question marks on what Thomas will do post-Manning. I also think Matthews is a decent buy low right now.
FUBAR
Footballguy
this is repeated a lot with JT, Decker, DThomas, etc. but why do we think there's less than 3-4 years left? How much weight are we giving 2017 on?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Because people think that Decker and DT weren't great fantasy options before Manning got there, but they forget in 2010 they were both rookies behind guys like Brandon Lloyd, who led the league in receiving that year, Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal. In 2011 they had some guy named Tebow throwing them the ball and he didn't even average 150 yards passing a game.
Even if the Broncos go undefeated this year and win the Super Bowl and Manning decides that is a perfect ending to his career these guys will still be good options going forward. They showed flashes of being good in their second years even with Tebow throwing the ball. So even if they get an average quarterback I would say the floor for Decker is a wr3 and DT is a high end wr 2 .
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Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
2017? Doubt Manning plays that long -- he's got his ring and will pass Favre in all of the meaningful career categories in 2015 at the latest (2014 if he keeps his current absurd pace). I also think a ring with Denver this year and there's a very strong chance that he retires.
DT is a beast who will be fine with any warm body at QB IMO. Decker is a UFA after this year, and IMO that should absolutely be taken into account re: his value moving forward. Thomas? No idea, but athletically he's not special. Good, yes. But he's not Vernon Davis or Jimmy Graham. Julius feels like good player, perfect storm, ridiculous unsustainable hot streak to me as opposed to a genuine elite guy.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Yep -- it's a total crapshoot IMO. Which makes it really important to separate the true superstar (DT) from the merely good players (Decker, Julius, Moreno) as far as dynasty value.
FUBAR
Footballguy
This is a reason I prefer flex, but if you can only play one TE it makes sense. I had similar issues when I had Peyton and brees (as did the Peyton owner before me). Eventually I got good value for both but it took time.
