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Tar Heel Boy
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Picked up the Lindy's preseason magazine earlier this week. I like it better than Athlons. REally nice features. Pretty interesting article on Roy vs. Coach K as well. They also had a list of the top teams, coaches, one and done players, etc. Be interested to see the other magazines that come out as well.
Aerial Assault
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Two seasons ago, TSN bastardized its magazine because they acquired Street & Smiths. So the TSN mag became the crappy one that was always Street & Smiths. Lindy's stepped in, took the TSN format and a lot of its freelance contributors, and now they're the gold standard of preseason mags (I only like Blue Ribbon for certain things). Might go grab Lindy's tonight.
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Tar Heel Boy
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Generally where I live the only preseason mags are Lindys and Athlons. At least those are the only two I really like to get.Two seasons ago, TSN bastardized its magazine because they acquired Street & Smiths. So the TSN mag became the crappy one that was always Street & Smiths. Lindy's stepped in, took the TSN format and a lot of its freelance contributors, and now they're the gold standard of preseason mage (I only like Blue Ribbon for certain things). Might go grab Lindy's tonight.
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Bruce Dickinson
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Saw these all-decade teams on a KU board. The source material is Lindy's preseason mags:
All One-Year
G Derrick Rose
F Carmelo Anthony
F Kevin Durant
F Michael Beasley
C Greg Oden
All Two-Year
G Chris Paul
G Dwyane Wade
F Blake Griffin
F DeJuan Blair
C Andrew Bogut
All Three-Year
G Stephen Cury
G Jason Williams
F Adam Morrison
F Troy Murphy
C Emeka Okafor
All Four-Year
G Troy Bell
G JJ Redick
F Shane Battier
F Tyler Hansbrough
C Sheldon Williams
All Decade
G Jason Williams
G Chris Paul
F Tyler Hansbrough
F Blake Griffin
C Emeka Okafor
ETA: source material cited. Thanks, Tar Heel Boy!
All One-Year
G Derrick Rose
F Carmelo Anthony
F Kevin Durant
F Michael Beasley
C Greg Oden
All Two-Year
G Chris Paul
G Dwyane Wade
F Blake Griffin
F DeJuan Blair
C Andrew Bogut
All Three-Year
G Stephen Cury
G Jason Williams
F Adam Morrison
F Troy Murphy
C Emeka Okafor
All Four-Year
G Troy Bell
G JJ Redick
F Shane Battier
F Tyler Hansbrough
C Sheldon Williams
All Decade
G Jason Williams
G Chris Paul
F Tyler Hansbrough
F Blake Griffin
C Emeka Okafor
ETA: source material cited. Thanks, Tar Heel Boy!
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Tar Heel Boy
Footballguy
That was in Lindy's. Coach of the decade was Roy Williams (obviously) and team of the decade was Kansas. UNC was a close second, but the 8-20 season hurts them.
Tar Heel Boy
Footballguy
The two mags I've read so far have UNC winning the ACC and Georgia Tech in their top 3 or 4 in the conference. When I said that back in May about Georgia Tech some thought it was funny. The Jackets are going to be a good team. ONly Hewitt can screw it up.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
No argument from me about Roy Williams as coach of the decade. 2 Titles, 5 Final Fours, and 6 first-place conference finishes is impressive enough. The fact that he did it while changing jobs during the decade and got three core groups of players to the Final Four is some tasty icing on that cake. I can't make a strong argument that KU was the team of the decade, though. I know they spent most of the decade at the top of the Big XII (seven first-place finishes in the Big XII, two seconds), but they only one title in a decade where multiple programs won multiple titles. Those first-round NCAA exits in 2005 and 2006 hurt, too. IMO, both UNC and Michigan State had better runs in the aughts.
TLEF316
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at first glance, i have to think i'd slide Jameer Nelson in there over Troy Bell on the all 4 year team. (I might take Kirk Hinrich over him as well) I also have to think there was a better 3 year forward than Troy Murphy. DeJaun Blair stands out as well. Great player, but is he really a top 5 2 and done?
Tar Heel Boy
Footballguy
I think UNC was the team of the decade as well. Missing the tourney in 2002 and 2003 sucks, but being in the Final Four 4 of the other 8 tourneys and winning two national titles is impressive.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Good god.Aerial Assault there is one "accepted" Duke fan on this entire board, TLEF. That's it. And TLEF is a smart guy. What he says to me via PM is VERY different than what he posts on here. He might be a politician because he knows how to work this pro unc group. I tip my hat to him. But me, I'll state FACTS about Duke, and I won't hide just because unc has had a great run recently. In fact the holes have had their best run ever, winning 2 titles in the last 5 years. That's outstanding. Its also been our program's worst 5 years as far as NCAA tournament record under K. I have no problem admitting that either. But the funny thing is, despite this HORRIBLE 5 years for Duke, we've won 8 of the last 11 ACC Titles. We now have the record for most wins in a decade (although some not so bright people around here will argue that fact) So i say, let the unc fans enjoy what they have done. But at the same time, I laugh, as they talk about how our program is dying (that has been said multiple times by lots of posters here) When our program has its worst 5 years ever, we're still doing pretty darn good. When UNC has their worst down period, they go 8-20, and get blown out 3 times in 1 season to us. K is hauling in his best recruiting classes he's had since our run with Brand, Battier, Avery and J-Will, Dunleavy, Boozer. Its coming, and its gonna be a lot of fun. And I'll be here to cheer us on, and give back exactly what they've given Duke fans over the last few years.
Tar Heel Boy
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http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basket...-tyler-hansbrou
Just because it's always such a great debate.
Just because it's always such a great debate.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Another 4-year guard that deserves consideration IMO is Juan Dixon. Sound the 
alarm if you must, but I'd put Drew Gooden ahead of Troy Murphy on the 3-year team, and Nick Collison over Shelden Williams on the 4-year team.It's hard to separate the pro career from the college career, but as college players, I'd probably take TJ Ford over Chris Paul on the 2-year team. Texas has had a lot of talent come through Austin the last 10 years, but TJ Ford was the one that led them to their only Final Four since the late 1940s.Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
What were the easiest picks for those lists? For me, I'd say they were
One-and-done: Carmelo Anthony (though all five were pretty obvious - that one-and-done team would probably win a five-on-five game against that all-decade team)
Two year: Dwyane Wade
Three year: Jason "Jay" Williams
Four year: Tyler Hansbrough
One-and-done: Carmelo Anthony (though all five were pretty obvious - that one-and-done team would probably win a five-on-five game against that all-decade team)
Two year: Dwyane Wade
Three year: Jason "Jay" Williams
Four year: Tyler Hansbrough
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Frostillicus
Footballguy
Any list like this without Kris Humphries is a joke.
TLEF316
Footballguy
forgot about Dixon. Good call. Also sort of forgot about Gooden. He's right up there with MurphyNo surprise, i'm not with you on Collison. Big time player, but Williams was a 2 time national defensive player of the year. OBviously, Collison tore Williams to pieces when KU beat Duke in 03, but that was a senior against a freshman, so its not exactly a fair comparison. If KU had beaten Syracuse and taken the title, i'd probably give it to him (not that the loss was his fault. Gerry McNamara shot his ### off in that first half. Watching the circle jerk that went on in Scranton after that performance was not pretty)As a college player, Ford's obviously right up there. He took his team to a final 4. As great as he was, my college memory of Chris Paul was his ##### move junk punch on Hodge.
TLEF316
Footballguy
The guy had a phenomenal year. However, it was pretty much the Humphries show. He had no help and nobody to share shots with. Individual, his stats were obviously better than Oden, but OSU went to the final 4. If he sticks with his original commitment, Duke cuts down the nets in 04. no doubt about it. They were 1 big man short (although they wouldn't have been had Randolph pulled his head out of his ###). Nic Horvath on emeka okafor= bad news.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Nearly killed the program. One of my least favorite Gophers of all-time. Might have been different at Duke with a coach who was in charge, but it was the Humphries show and Monson let him do whatever he wanted. An absolute nightmare.
Frostillicus
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This is a f ucking great posting. Rickert deserves an award for spending the most time ever outside the 3-point line for a seven-footer (Pittsnoggle might have broken this).Not even an honorable mention for Joel Pryzbilla or Rick Rickert, either.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
I loved that Rickert wore different jersey numbers at home and on the road. He wanted to wear #14, but it was retired in honor of Lou Hudson. So, Rickert did the only logical thing: he wore #1 at home, and #4 on the road. He came to the "U" as the top Iron Range hoops prospect since Kevin McHale, but the only NBA history Rickert ever made was breaking a tooth during a pickup game because he got punched real hard by Kevin Garnett.This is a f ucking great posting. Rickert deserves an award for spending the most time ever outside the 3-point line for a seven-footer (Pittsnoggle might have broken this).
Mr. Littlejeans
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16 mins per game, 6.3 ppg, 43% FG, 40% 3PT, 0.8 APG, 3.1 RPG, 0.6 BPG, 0.4 SPG. 2/3's of all FG's are 3's?Meet 7'2", 260 lb. Dawid Przybyszewski! http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/va...d-przybyszewskiThis is a f ucking great posting. Rickert deserves an award for spending the most time ever outside the 3-point line for a seven-footer (Pittsnoggle might have broken this).
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The Duke students have done some VERY creative things to welcome Kyrie to Duke this weekend for his visit. There are lots of signs hanging from the Dorm windows and around K-Ville, and a life size cut out of Kyrie wearing a Duke uniform that says "Welcome Home" 
My favorite sign says "NJ PGs win titles at Duke: Hurley 91,92, J-Will '01, Irving '11"
More than any other position, an elite PG with speed is what Duke has missed the last 5 years, and exactly what helped UNC have so much success (Felton and Lawson were MVP's of their teams)
My favorite sign says "NJ PGs win titles at Duke: Hurley 91,92, J-Will '01, Irving '11"More than any other position, an elite PG with speed is what Duke has missed the last 5 years, and exactly what helped UNC have so much success (Felton and Lawson were MVP's of their teams)
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Frostillicus
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Fine. Big Ten Record.16 mins per game, 6.3 ppg, 43% FG, 40% 3PT, 0.8 APG, 3.1 RPG, 0.6 BPG, 0.4 SPG. 2/3's of all FG's are 3's?Meet 7'2", 260 lb. Dawid Przybyszewski! http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/va...d-przybyszewskiThis is a f ucking great posting. Rickert deserves an award for spending the most time ever outside the 3-point line for a seven-footer (Pittsnoggle might have broken this).Not even an honorable mention for Joel Pryzbilla or Rick Rickert, either.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
This will be my only reply or acknowledgement of Ripleys in this thread. I'll put him on Ignore through this username after this.
Incorrect. There are several "accepted" Duke fans on this board. oso diablo and Genedoc are two that come to mind right away. Our problem with you, Ripleys, is not that you are a Duke fan. It's that you are a ########. Classless move making public comments about PMs, BTW. I guess we can add "private" to the long list of words you don't understand, words that if you understood, you might have been able to attend Duke.
Incorrect. You don't always state FACTS about Duke. In fact, you often state things that are either disputed or flat-out wrong to piss people off. This is one of many reasons why we as a group think you are a ########. BTW, the last five years is not Duke's worst 5-year stretch under Coach K. In Coach K's first five seasons, he went NIT, no bid, no bid, NCAA round of 32 (#3 seed loss to #6 seed), NCAA second-round loss (#3 seed loss to #11 seed). That's a total of one NCAA tourney win in five seasons. (And yes, it is one tourney win. In 1984, Duke's #3 seed got them a first-round bye; it was the last season before the field expanded to 64). If you want to argue that three Sweet 16s is worse than one NIT and two sub-.500 seasons, GLLLL with that. And don't blame Coach K's first five seasons on the previous regime. Coach K took over a program that won the ACC the previous season, was a 2 seed in the NCAAs, an at least one player with Final Four experience.
Incorrect. You know this is incorrect. I did the math, showing my work, in another thread. It wasn't disputed. All you said in defense of your claim was appeal to SportsCenter's authority. They got it wrong. You got it wrong. Yet you put it in your sig knowing it is wrong, to piss people off. This is one of many reasons why we as a group think you are a ########. For those who missed the earlier work, here's a summary. If a "decade" means a ten-year calendar decade, Kansas held that record when Ripleys claimed Duke broke it. Duke will break that record later this year, because Duke still has games left in the 00s. If a "decade" means a stretch of ten consecutive seasons, Duke's 10-season best run for wins is from 1997-2006, not the most recent ten years. Duke 1997-2006 is probably the most wins in a 10-season stretch (UCLA had a higher 10-season winning percentage during the Wooden years, but teams played 8-10 fewer games per season then), but that means they didn't break their own record last season, so they couldn't possibly have broken the NCAA record.
Incorrect. Recruiting classes are mostly speculation, and the best evaluation probably comes at the end of the players' eligibility, not the beginning. That said, here's Scout's rankings of Duke's recruiting classes the last five years:2009: 92008: 132007: 62006: 42005: 2That heralded 2005 class with 5-star recruits Josh McRoberts and Greg Paulus is rated stronger than anything Duke has done since, and Duke will have to land Harrison Barnes for the 2010 class to rate as highly. While it's acknowledged that recruiting rankings aren't perfect, looking around at the other top 2005 classes shows Scout wasn't completely out to lunch. Their #1 class in 2005 was Kansas, and that group had two starters on a title team that now play in the NBA, plus another lottery pick. Their #4 class was UNC, and that group had two starters on a title team. Their #6 class was Memphis, who had three starters on a team that lost a title game in OT.Kendall started this thread specifically so we could talk college basketball without you coming in and ruining it. As a group, we thought this was a great idea, and as a group, we were bummed that you found the thread. We can't force you to not post in here, and while your contributions reduce the quality of discussion, they don't technically violate the TOS, unless "constantly and consistently being a ########" violates the TOS. So, I guess all we can do is ask you to take your posts elsewhere, or all of us put you on Ignore. If you're bothered by the stereotype that "all Duke hoops fans are douchebags", you haven't done a lot to disprove it, and done a lot to perpetuate it. I don't think all Duke hoops fans are douchebags, but my experience with you on this board is that you are a ########. (not the brick-and-mortar you, BTW - I forgive you for those indecent exposure and DUI arrests - I'm talking about FFA you) So, that's why I'm putting you on Ignore, and encouraging others to do so.Have a great season, guy.
Bruce, let's put your money where your mouth is. Why don't we make a bet, let's say, $5000, that Duke DOES have the record for most wins in a decade. What do you say guy?
Duke has 287 wins (as of March 16, 2009) from 2000-2009. This is a fact. Go look it up. Now why don't you produce your facts that state otherwise?
Duke has 287 wins (as of March 16, 2009) from 2000-2009. This is a fact. Go look it up. Now why don't you produce your facts that state otherwise?
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
This thread used to be good.
Yes. Stop the whining / complaining back and forth and everyone be way cooler if you want to keep posting here. TIA.J
Mr. Littlejeans
Footballguy
FWIW, Irving told Zagoria that he wouldn't verbal this weekend.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/09/24/barnes-...ida/#more-22213
Melo cut the ribbon on the new 'Cuse facility named after him, which is pretty obvious considering he's the only 'Cuse player in the last 20 years to have a successful NBA career. I'm sure it'll be true to form and contain no books and plenty of white girls. Wocka wocka: http://www.syracuse.com/today/index.ssf/20...ony_held_a.html
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/09/24/barnes-...ida/#more-22213
Melo cut the ribbon on the new 'Cuse facility named after him, which is pretty obvious considering he's the only 'Cuse player in the last 20 years to have a successful NBA career. I'm sure it'll be true to form and contain no books and plenty of white girls. Wocka wocka: http://www.syracuse.com/today/index.ssf/20...ony_held_a.html
Duke insiders expect a commit within the next 2 weeks. But what he told Zagoria is true, he said he'd like to talk to his parents after the weekend visit. Plus I think he intends to announce on Tweeter, or at least, that's what he said he'd do months ago. I've already gotten word he's having a great time so far. Jason Williams is on campus too, and told a friend of mine that this is going to be a great weekend for Duke fans.
Jason Williams is on campus too, and told a friend of mine that this is going to be a great weekend for Duke fans.
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Joe, The purpose of my post was to demonstrate that Ripleys is an extreme case, an outlier. How many other users in FBG/FFA history had threads created specifically to avoid them? If you think that Ripleys and I are equal parts of the problem, and equal parts of the solution... I'm disappointed, but not surprised. (As an aside, it makes me feel better about my decision to no longer purchase the FBG subscription product.) If you think my actions here and in other threads are worth revoking my posting privileges, so be it. Just understand that continued actions like yours here will lead to a board with higher percentage of posts by users like Ripleys and LHUCKS, and lower volume of posts like mine. If that's the kind of board you want, fine. I'll find someplace else.
jeter23
Footballguy
The whole Ripleys/Bruce etc stuff is getting very old. Many claim that his posts take away from ths basketbeall discussion, but your posts complaining about him do the same thing.
At least half of this thread are filled with homers pumping up their teams, and that gets old. I appreciate the homers adding insight, not spinning every recruiting story in favor of their team.
I am guessing that threatening/insulting Joe is not a good way to make your point that Ripleys is such a terrible guy. Also, leave a link (if one really does exist) about his alleged DUI, I'd love to read up on that.
At least half of this thread are filled with homers pumping up their teams, and that gets old. I appreciate the homers adding insight, not spinning every recruiting story in favor of their team.
I am guessing that threatening/insulting Joe is not a good way to make your point that Ripleys is such a terrible guy. Also, leave a link (if one really does exist) about his alleged DUI, I'd love to read up on that.
JAA
Footballguy
I only contribute WVU tibits cause thats all I read about. Yall should let me know if Im homering up this thread 
I'm agreeing with you that this thread was once good I'd like to see the whining / complaining decrease and for it get back to being good. No idea why you'd be disappointed.J
Mr. Littlejeans
Footballguy
Bruce Pearl really blowing it this summer between losing Josh Selby and this:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/bask...l.ap/index.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/bask...l.ap/index.html
I've never gotten a DUI in my life. I don't even drink. This guy talks like he knows something about me, and he knows absolutely nothing. And Joe, is it acceptable behavior now that we can start falsely accusing anyone we want of felony crimes? That just doesn't seem to be congruent with everything else that you try to do here to keep these boards PG and friendly....
And jeter I don't know if that was directed at me, but I can assure you everything I've ever said about Duke getting a recruit has been 100% true, there has been no spinning just to favor my team. I mean, its fine that people want to doubt what I say, especially those that don't like Duke. But I know for a fact, Duke is about to land 4 elite players, something they haven't done in the last several years. Its a very exciting time for our program, and I'll make no apologies to anyone about my excitement and enthusiasm. I contribute info to this thread just like others due about different schools. What has made this thread turn bad, is the complaining about me, and the false accusations. You haven't seen me make any in this thread, so I can't help what happens here. Hopefully people will take Joe's advice. Back to the topic, Irving's visit has gone great. Supposedly he knocked everyone's socks off during the scrimmage. Jason Williams is there, and said he believes Mason Plumlee will be the next star at Duke. And from what I've heard, the program is preparing for him to have a short stay in Durham. That bodes well for our team this year.jeter23 said:
jeter23
Footballguy
Not towards you at all, I was thinking of someone that seems to think any high school senior that can locate Kansas on a map might end up a Jayhawk.
jeter23
Footballguy
Easily, I am more ready for this season than I have been in a while. I do not expect a title, or even a F4, but I know it will be better than the past couple of years.
can we get back to talking about knitting in here?
Mr. Littlejeans
Footballguy
More knitting:Joseph could come down to Connecticut and Nova, Gilchrist is favoring Nova and UK, although Seton Hall is in hot pursuit, St. Benedict's news, and Nova might play four guards this year:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/09/25/novas-w...tes/#more-22381
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Joe, can we get a deal like we had with LHUCKS a couple years ago where Ripleys can only post in the threads he starts instead of cluttering up these threads? You can read this thread and see how great it was until he showed up. All the ill-will towards him was well earned by him. Just a thought.Joe Bryant said:Bruce Dickinson said:I'm agreeing with you that this thread was once good I'd like to see the whining / complaining decrease and for it get back to being good. No idea why you'd be disappointed.J
Frostillicus
Footballguy
The more I read about Joseph, the more and more it sounds like the Gophers are almost on the list as more of a courtesy then anything else. Not a surprise, but with his brother here I couldn't help but hope.The Gophers also got a commitment from Austin Hollins, who also held offers from Memphis and Arkansas.Hollins doesn't have any stars on Rivals, but Scout.com gives him 3 stars and ranks him the #34 shooting guard in the country for his class. Scouting reports I can find say he's an excellent shooter with good range, but is not the most athletic or strongest player. One big key I saw on the Scout report is they say a strength of his is his upside/potential. Maybe Tubby grabbed a diamond in the rough?Pairing him with Eliason (with one scholarship still available) is a rather underwhelming class, but might be necessary. With two consecutive classes ranked in the top 25 nationally, and large classes at that, grabbing some role players and high upside guys makes some sense, and I still have full and complete trust in Tubby so I'm not worried about it.
Mr. Littlejeans
Footballguy
That happens quite a bit. Usually lists are cut down to 5 schools or so, 2-3 are serious contenders, and the other couple are courtesies, sometimes to hometown schools (Harrison Barnes/Iowa St.), sometimes to schools who are out of the player's league but have been in dogged pursuit (Irving/Seton Hall).Tobias Harris cut his list to 7: http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/09/25/tobias-...o-7/#more-22415
Tar Heel Boy
Footballguy
It's interesting to see the different viewpoints from UNC and Duke fans on Harrison Barnes. Supposed Duke insiders say he's a lock for Duke. Supposed insiders very close to UNC say he's going to Chapel Hill. We should know within two months where he's going.
