Gator Shawn
Footballguy
Wow, now that I have money, the auction house has some great stuff for sale. It will be interesting to see how the economy plays out as levels go up.
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GamerBoy61
Footballguy
This is False. It absolutely does... try it some time, it works.
Vacation is fun but I miss LOTRO
I wonder how long they will allow mailing stuff between characters on the same account??
It works great to have two or three characters with complementing professions.
I can make yew wood with my woodsman and then send it to my weaponsmith to make some pretty cool stuff.
I bet that will change, WOW does not allow you to send mail between your own "toons"
I just assumed that it wasn't allowed because of this post in the WOW thread
Rhino
Footballguy
Ahh I can see how that might confuse... if you have Horde and Alliance characters you can't mail between those. Horde and Alliance have no interaction with each other whatsoever other than in a PvP type situation. But if all your characters are the same faction you can mail between them freely.[/WoWhijack]This is False. It absolutely does... try it some time, it works.
Vacation is fun but I miss LOTRO
I wonder how long they will allow mailing stuff between characters on the same account??
It works great to have two or three characters with complementing professions.
I can make yew wood with my woodsman and then send it to my weaponsmith to make some pretty cool stuff.
I bet that will change, WOW does not allow you to send mail between your own "toons"I just assumed that it wasn't allowed because of this post in the WOW thread
I broke down and created my first character... Nerple, a level 2 Hobbit Burgler. Didn't get much chance to play and I'm out of town on business until Friday, then I leave town again for a wedding this weekend, so I probably won't get to play again until Sunday night or Monday. But add me to your friends lists and if you see me on I could use a free bag of weed!
TLEF316
Footballguy
seriously, this stuff sounds so insanely dorky, but im strangely intruiged. Im a huge fan of the movies, but i dont think i could deal with doing stuff like farming. Id never have the patience to do all the grinding that leads up to cool weapons and badd ### monster slaying.
Gator Shawn
Footballguy
There actually isn't much grinding if you don't want it. You don't HAVE to do any of the farming. There is a main quest and you can stick to it. You'll still need to do some quests on the side to level up to handle the main story line quests, but the game isn't really about the little stuff, but the best equipment is still on drops, meaning you get the BEST equipment from actually fighting monsters.
snogger
Footballguy
There is no need to farm if you join a guild and want to just get out there and fight 
You will get plenty of drops and what you don't get from drops and/or quest you can get from others in the guild.I'm doing farming because I want to make food for the guild. To do so cost mucho 
so farming to build up my money so I can cook food. Food provides "buffs" for characters out of combat to allow quicker recovery so you can put the beat down on baddies faster.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
I guess that makes me king FBG LORTO
My base silver after buying supplies for a new field run is 1500 silver.
snogger
Footballguy
:FINGER:Course I'd be there also IF I could do it while I was suppose to be working...I guess that makes me king FBG LORTO
So close last night.. Only hit 920 Silver..
Was hoping to hit the 1 Gold mark+
Guess I'll take care of that tonight.My base silver after buying supplies for a new field run is 1500 silver.
Reaches for phone to call wife to start Remote PC so I can catch up...
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Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Don't be hatin'.:FINGER:Course I'd be there also IF I could do it while I was suppose to be working...I guess that makes me king FBG LORTO
So close last night.. Only hit 920 Silver..
Was hoping to hit the 1 Gold mark+
Guess I'll take care of that tonight.
Reaches for phone to call wife to start Remote PC so I can catch up...
snogger
Footballguy
Don't be hatin'.:FINGER:Course I'd be there also IF I could do it while I was suppose to be working...I guess that makes me king FBG LORTO
So close last night.. Only hit 920 Silver..
Was hoping to hit the 1 Gold mark+
Guess I'll take care of that tonight.
Reaches for phone to call wife to start Remote PC so I can catch up...
Gator Shawn
Footballguy
My base is about 400 now, but I just spent 200s at the auction house or it would have been 600s. I'm going to be farming today during the day so maybe I can hit 1g
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
GamerBoy61
Footballguy
I guess that makes me king FBG LORTOMy base silver after buying supplies for a new field run is 1500 silver. :X
I have to ask, What is the average wait time of your patients???I can see it now, Mad Cow tells his receptionist to stall the next patient because, "Pipeweed doesn't farm itself!"
snogger
Footballguy
GamerBoy61 said:I guess that makes me king FBG LORTO
So close last night.. Only hit 920 Silver..
Was hoping to hit the 1 Gold mark+
Guess I'll take care of that tonight.My base silver after buying supplies for a new field run is 1500 silver.
I can see it now, Mad Cow tells his receptionist to stall the next patient because,"Pipeweed doesn't farm itself!"
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Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Practically nothing. You have an appointment, we start the exam as soon as papers are ready and good to go. However, with the pipeweed, it can take 20-30 minutes or more of autopilot, so I set it going and leave. Come back and pipeweed city, baby!GamerBoy61 said:I guess that makes me king FBG LORTOI have to ask, What is the average wait time of your patients???I can see it now, Mad Cow tells his receptionist to stall the next patient because, "Pipeweed doesn't farm itself!"
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
OK, here is the breakdown of the run that I am now processing.
Did 43 fields, so cost of goods, so to speak, was 254 sp, 56 copper. That is 43 water, 86 fert and 129 soil.
Out of that, I got 209 fair plants and 77 poor, for a total of 286 plants. That is an average of 6.65 total plants per field, which is not bad. There was a HUGE slant towards fair this run, which is out of the ordinary. I would have expected around 200/86, which would have allowed me to famr the same number of fields next time. As it is, I will be farming less now (only 38 fields next run) due to the fewer poor seed plants I can do.
Anyway, from 209 fair plants, I get 836 seed, selling at 61 copper each for a gross of 509 silver, 96 copper and a net of 255 silver, 40 copper. That is a nice end result there for only maybe 20 minutes of me actually doing something.
Did 43 fields, so cost of goods, so to speak, was 254 sp, 56 copper. That is 43 water, 86 fert and 129 soil.
Out of that, I got 209 fair plants and 77 poor, for a total of 286 plants. That is an average of 6.65 total plants per field, which is not bad. There was a HUGE slant towards fair this run, which is out of the ordinary. I would have expected around 200/86, which would have allowed me to famr the same number of fields next time. As it is, I will be farming less now (only 38 fields next run) due to the fewer poor seed plants I can do.
Anyway, from 209 fair plants, I get 836 seed, selling at 61 copper each for a gross of 509 silver, 96 copper and a net of 255 silver, 40 copper. That is a nice end result there for only maybe 20 minutes of me actually doing something.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
What is the point of the crazy farming going on?
Horde gold pre-release and get the profession skills maxed? (I am assuming they are not capped like levels).
Horde gold pre-release and get the profession skills maxed? (I am assuming they are not capped like levels).
snogger
Footballguy
Many are doing it to supply money for our main crafting.. In my case cooking. Food items are not selling very well just yet on the AH, but should once it goes live. I want to get my skills up in crafting to be able to sell the "good stuff"
Others are doing it to buy a horse that they can call their own and not have to pay each time they want to ride some where.Others are doing to fill time since you can't level past 15 right now.Not to mention.. Once you have harvested the crops you can set you character up to make the pipeweed and walk away.. The last two nights My character has been online for 2+ hours each night but I have probably spent a total of 40 mintues actually "playing" the game.
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Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
I do eye exams while making iSilver.Many are doing it to supply money for our main crafting.. In my case cooking. Food items are not selling very well just yet on the AH, but should once it goes live. I want to get my skills up in crafting to be able to sell the "good stuff"
Others are doing to fill time since you can't level past 15 right now.
Not to mention.. Once you have harvested the crops you can set you character up to make the pipeweed and walk away.. The last two nights My character has been online for 2+ hours each night but I have probably spent a total of 40 mintues actually "playing" the game.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Many are doing it to supply money for our main crafting.. In my case cooking. Food items are not selling very well just yet on the AH, but should once it goes live. I want to get my skills up in crafting to be able to sell the "good stuff"Others are doing it to buy a horse that they can call their own and not have to pay each time they want to ride some where.Others are doing to fill time since you can't level past 15 right now.Not to mention.. Once you have harvested the crops you can set you character up to make the pipeweed and walk away.. The last two nights My character has been online for 2+ hours each night but I have probably spent a total of 40 mintues actually "playing" the game.
I wish some of these better MMORPGs could/would bring back housing.In the good old days of Ultima Online, there was nothing cooler that building a "shop" with your very own vendor set up to sell your wares. Star Wars Galaxies also had the ability.Talk about a money sink.
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snogger
Footballguy
So I am looking at a new patient's chart at their hobbies/interests. He listed leatherwork. I instinctively thought to myself, "Whatever. My hunter could totally pVVn you with leatherworking."
Still waiting for this conversation:Mad Cow: "So you smoke huh?"Patient: "Yes, cigars mainly but I have been known to touch the other stuff"Mad Cow: "You mean Pipeweed?? I can hook you up."
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snitwitch
Footballguy
This was super cool. You used to "buy" the vendor IIRC, then set him up with a bag with the stuff you wanted to sell. The best real estate would be around dungeons, where you could put bandages and stuff up for sale and they would go like hotcakes.You also had to continue to pay the vendor to stay open I think.Many are doing it to supply money for our main crafting.. In my case cooking. Food items are not selling very well just yet on the AH, but should once it goes live. I want to get my skills up in crafting to be able to sell the "good stuff"Others are doing it to buy a horse that they can call their own and not have to pay each time they want to ride some where.
Others are doing to fill time since you can't level past 15 right now.
Not to mention.. Once you have harvested the crops you can set you character up to make the pipeweed and walk away.. The last two nights My character has been online for 2+ hours each night but I have probably spent a total of 40 mintues actually "playing" the game.I wish some of these better MMORPGs could/would bring back housing.
In the good old days of Ultima Online, there was nothing cooler that building a "shop" with your very own vendor set up to sell your wares. Star Wars Galaxies also had the ability.
Talk about a money sink.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
This was super cool. You used to "buy" the vendor IIRC, then set him up with a bag with the stuff you wanted to sell. The best real estate would be around dungeons, where you could put bandages and stuff up for sale and they would go like hotcakes.You also had to continue to pay the vendor to stay open I think.Many are doing it to supply money for our main crafting.. In my case cooking. Food items are not selling very well just yet on the AH, but should once it goes live. I want to get my skills up in crafting to be able to sell the "good stuff"
Others are doing to fill time since you can't level past 15 right now.
Not to mention.. Once you have harvested the crops you can set you character up to make the pipeweed and walk away.. The last two nights My character has been online for 2+ hours each night but I have probably spent a total of 40 mintues actually "playing" the game.
In the good old days of Ultima Online, there was nothing cooler that building a "shop" with your very own vendor set up to sell your wares. Star Wars Galaxies also had the ability.
Talk about a money sink.
Goodtimes.
snogger
Footballguy
Had a vendor in SWG.. I also spent a God awful amount of time making up a Fish Aquarium.. Thanks to having a vendor it got seen a lot andMany are doing it to supply money for our main crafting.. In my case cooking. Food items are not selling very well just yet on the AH, but should once it goes live. I want to get my skills up in crafting to be able to sell the "good stuff"
of it were linked on forums which drove more customers to my vendor as they came by to see the Aquarium.. Ahhh. the Memory's..
Gator Shawn
Footballguy
Main Epic questors. I stumbled upon chapter 5 and completed it. You can totally solo the 4 birds you need to kill.
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snogger
Footballguy
Warned you watch out for the "Forgetting to check the "Use 100%" box."I do it on purpose here and there to build up my Seed supply but otherwise don't plant without it.Well, I am doing an experiment without soil and let's jsut say it is costly for me.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Talk to Shawn about that one.Warned you watch out for the "Forgetting to check the "Use 100%" box."I do it on purpose here and there to build up my Seed supply but otherwise don't plant without it.Well, I am doing an experiment without soil and let's jsut say it is costly for me.
No, it has nothing to do with me not checking the box. I did it on purpose. I want to know if you really get more poor plants, or if it is just the ratio. Should know in about 20 minutes. Will post results for a 39 field run without soil.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
Well, that was teh suck. Now just by chance, I should get 5%, or 2of these fields, be well-tended without soil due to mastery. You know how many I got? NONE. Screw you LOTRO random dice rolls. 
So I guess that makes it a good study, since I got no well-tended bonuses, but still . . .
OK, the numbers:
39 fields, 129 total plants, so 3.31 plants per field, less than HALF with soil. Right away we see my profit margin per field taking a big dive, but what about seed production?
I got 39 fair plants, 90 poor. That means I make 95 silver, 16 bronze for the sales, but had 81.12 silver in cost of goods, so netted 14.04 silver for the whole thing, or 0.36 silver per field, down from 5.94 per field. HUGE LOSS!
Now for seed, I got 270 total, so I got 6.92 seeds per field, but got 5.37 poor per field with soil. So a differential of 1.55 seeds per field. However, given the fact we went down to 4 pipeweeds per field from 19.44, a cost loss of 9.42 silver per field, I would say without hesitation that it NEVER benefits to go without soil to "increase your seeds". You are better off always doing soil and BUYING the extra seeds. For your time, you will be much better off.
Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Screw you LOTRO random dice rolls. So I guess that makes it a good study, since I got no well-tended bonuses, but still
. . .OK, the numbers:
39 fields, 129 total plants, so 3.31 plants per field, less than HALF with soil. Right away we see my profit margin per field taking a big dive, but what about seed production?
I got 39 fair plants, 90 poor. That means I make 95 silver, 16 bronze for the sales, but had 81.12 silver in cost of goods, so netted 14.04 silver for the whole thing, or 0.36 silver per field, down from 5.94 per field. HUGE LOSS!
Now for seed, I got 270 total, so I got 6.92 seeds per field, but got 5.37 poor per field with soil. So a differential of 1.55 seeds per field. However, given the fact we went down to 4 pipeweeds per field from 19.44, a cost loss of 9.42 silver per field, I would say without hesitation that it NEVER benefits to go without soil to "increase your seeds". You are better off always doing soil and BUYING the extra seeds. For your time, you will be much better off.
Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
snogger
Footballguy
Alright.. No More planting without soil and CHECKING THE BOX for me..Well, that was teh suck. Now just by chance, I should get 5%, or 2of these fields, be well-tended without soil due to mastery. You know how many I got? NONE.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
I would also add that the analysis I did with the soil had a seemingly LOW number of seeds provided. I had run 39 fields the time before and got enough seeds to plant 43 fields, so would say it fluctuates a bit, but tends to go UP over time, to where you get to 50 fields and are good to go.
snogger
Footballguy
I just have to say that I am pissed that I did all of that for 14 freaking silver, instead of the 250+ profit.
I really hate to do this but..... 
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
It was all in the name of science. That's it.I just have to say that I am pissed that I did all of that for 14 freaking silver, instead of the 250+ profit.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
On initial analysis:
45 well-tended fields
45 water at 21.6 silver
90 ferts at 72 silver
135 soils at 172.8 sp
Total COGS: 266.4. For futre reference, each field COG is 5.92 silver.
If you would like to know how stupid that last experiment really was, after 5 fields, I have 33 good plants.
45 well-tended fields
45 water at 21.6 silver
90 ferts at 72 silver
135 soils at 172.8 sp
Total COGS: 266.4. For futre reference, each field COG is 5.92 silver.
If you would like to know how stupid that last experiment really was, after 5 fields, I have 33 good plants.
snogger
Footballguy
Pulls out his next smilie....
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
And, the processing has begun.
45 fields. 229 fair plants, 87 poor. That means I get 916 pipeweed for a total of 558.76 silver. Profit = 292.36 silver. Profit per field was 6.50 silver, compared to 5.94 per field before with the 43 fields, so this was a very good haul.
7.02 plants per field, which again was higher. I lost 3 poor plants this haul, meaning I will only get to do 43 next time through, but that is OK. It fluctuates, and as I have proven, I think, I would still be MUCH better off buying the seed to make up the difference than doing fields without soil.
45 fields. 229 fair plants, 87 poor. That means I get 916 pipeweed for a total of 558.76 silver. Profit = 292.36 silver. Profit per field was 6.50 silver, compared to 5.94 per field before with the 43 fields, so this was a very good haul.
7.02 plants per field, which again was higher. I lost 3 poor plants this haul, meaning I will only get to do 43 next time through, but that is OK. It fluctuates, and as I have proven, I think, I would still be MUCH better off buying the seed to make up the difference than doing fields without soil.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
But it's only in Beta. . .This game has passed me by, I'm afraid.
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