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*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

I loved Lost. The more I look back on it, the more I appreciate it for what it was. I've still never come close to finding a show that sucked me in week after week more than this one.

I even went back and watched the whole series again a few years back when I was travelling all the time. It was just as good the second time.
I hear ya. For me, this show came in only behind The X-Files as far as shows that truly sucked me in and had me so eagerly awaiting the next episode. The Walking Dead comes closest to that for me now with Breaking Bad gone but it's still behind Lost and TXF in terms of that "I can't wait seven days till the new episode" feeling. Some other shows like 24 and Dexter had that feeling for a good part of their run but not the entirety. Lost did. And when I watched Season 2 and 3 again it just reminded me how amazing the show was and how much I enjoyed it when it was on.

There were so many "Holy F I can't believe it" moments on that show. I still remember the first Flash Forward and how totally awesome that was.

 
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I loved Lost. The more I look back on it, the more I appreciate it for what it was. I've still never come close to finding a show that sucked me in week after week more than this one.

I even went back and watched the whole series again a few years back when I was travelling all the time. It was just as good the second time.
For all the hating I do on lost.... I will say that for several seasons it did have me sucked in and I put more thought into WTF was happening on that show than I did with many other shows.

And that's coming from someone who didn't get in until season 4... i power watched the first 3 seasons which were mostly good... and probably most of the captivating discussion online happened around those seasons before they started warping the island and making a huge mess of everything.
So basically you loved it.

 
I think Lost did a lot of things well especially as it related to character development. That's evident because so many people were engaged and have strong feelings about it. Where it fell flat on it's face, though, was it didn't resolve the mystery it kept introducing. It's easy enough to tell a story with a lot of mystery and intrigue that captivates people if you don't have to resolve anything and that's what it feels like they did and I expect better from professional story tellers on this large of a stage.

Truth be told, I'm probably a lot harsher on the show because of that basic failure. They did do character development well and they had me engaged for a long time (I listened to a podcast about a TV show, I haven't done that since), but I look back on the show as one of the bigger wastes of time because of the lack of payoff and I feel that part of the reason I was so engaged was because of the anticipated payoff that never happened. Heck, I probably would've felt better about it if they never tried explaining anything.

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.
Yeah, no it did. The fact that you didn't get and/or like the explanation doesn't completely invalidate the explanation. You didn't like it. Move on. Quit #####ing about it, already.

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.
The bolded seems pretty subjective to me. I agree they did raise a lot of questions and probably more than was needed. But a lot of answers were provided. Ultimately, it boiled down to whether you liked the answers that were provided. Many people did. Many others did not. For me, the show was always more about the characters than the mysteries of the island. The latter was always backdrop for me in finding out more about the former.

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.
The bolded seems pretty subjective to me. I agree they did raise a lot of questions and probably more than was needed. But a lot of answers were provided. Ultimately, it boiled down to whether you liked the answers that were provided. Many people did. Many others did not. For me, the show was always more about the characters than the mysteries of the island. The latter was always backdrop for me in finding out more about the former.
This is a much better and less argumentative way of saying what I was trying to convey.

(I'm at work for the first time in 9 days after a vacation. So, I'm generally pretty pissy today.)

 
When I think about Lost in retrospect I think of some of the best single episodes/arcs a series has ever had but ultimately unfulfilling in its totality.

Yes it was about the characters and they were wonderfully developed (with a few exceptions) -- but in the end that only gets you half the way home. Building your show around mystery and mythology and leaving large pieces of it adrift isn't a great narrative even if it leads to excellent characterizations.

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.
The bolded seems pretty subjective to me. I agree they did raise a lot of questions and probably more than was needed. But a lot of answers were provided. Ultimately, it boiled down to whether you liked the answers that were provided. Many people did. Many others did not. For me, the show was always more about the characters than the mysteries of the island. The latter was always backdrop for me in finding out more about the former.
This is a much better and less argumentative way of saying what I was trying to convey.

(I'm at work for the first time in 9 days after a vacation. So, I'm generally pretty pissy today.)
I was going to say...you seem like a real Grumpy Gus.

 
I think Lost did a lot of things well especially as it related to character development. That's evident because so many people were engaged and have strong feelings about it. Where it fell flat on it's face, though, was it didn't resolve the mystery it kept introducing. It's easy enough to tell a story with a lot of mystery and intrigue that captivates people if you don't have to resolve anything and that's what it feels like they did and I expect better from professional story tellers on this large of a stage.

Truth be told, I'm probably a lot harsher on the show because of that basic failure. They did do character development well and they had me engaged for a long time (I listened to a podcast about a TV show, I haven't done that since), but I look back on the show as one of the bigger wastes of time because of the lack of payoff and I feel that part of the reason I was so engaged was because of the anticipated payoff that never happened. Heck, I probably would've felt better about it if they never tried explaining anything.
Totally agree...when you were watching Lost it felt like you had to be totally focused or you would miss something crucial that would help tie things together later on...the fact they had so many storylines going on and at some point they would all be brought together and make sense made the effort of giving them an hour each week worth it...it was like a pact where you agreed to watch the show religiously if they kept this story/mystery at a high-level week after week...to go with that ending and leaving so many aspects from the show's past unanswered was an incredible letdown...it was like the network came in and said you have five minutes to wrap this up, whatta you got...

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.
Yeah, no it did. The fact that you didn't get and/or like the explanation doesn't completely invalidate the explanation. You didn't like it. Move on. Quit #####ing about it, already.
No, it did not. You are ok with no explanations or stupid ones. Good for you.

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.
Yeah, no it did. The fact that you didn't get and/or like the explanation doesn't completely invalidate the explanation. You didn't like it. Move on. Quit #####ing about it, already.
Show is over - if you are so happy with it why do feel the need to come in here and defend it?
 
I loved Lost. The more I look back on it, the more I appreciate it for what it was. I've still never come close to finding a show that sucked me in week after week more than this one.

I even went back and watched the whole series again a few years back when I was travelling all the time. It was just as good the second time.
I hear ya. For me, this show came in only behind The X-Files as far as shows that truly sucked me in and had me so eagerly awaiting the next episode. The Walking Dead comes closest to that for me now with Breaking Bad gone but it's still behind Lost and TXF in terms of that "I can't wait seven days till the new episode" feeling. Some other shows like 24 and Dexter had that feeling for a good part of their run but not the entirety. Lost did. And when I watched Season 2 and 3 again it just reminded me how amazing the show was and how much I enjoyed it when it was on. There were so many "Holy F I can't believe it" moments on that show. I still remember the first Flash Forward and how totally awesome that was.
As good as it was it will always be that hot chick who got really fat.
 
I think the entire justification for the show was a lie. We were told that the writers knew where the story going. That was why I started watching the show, because that's such ambitious and groundbreaking TV I wanted to see how they pulled it off. I don't normally watch sci-fi shows, or fantasy shows, or whatever Lost was. Same with my wife and a lot of other folks that watched it. I think we alI watched it with the expectation that we were trying to figure something out and that the show was giving us clues the whole time that we would later say "so that's why that thing happened back in season 3!"

It turns out they had no idea where things were going. They were just making stuff up as they went along hoping they'd figure out a way to make it work. We weren't using information to try to figure out an answer, we were just speculating about what they would make up next. That doesn't seem nearly as interesting as trying to figure out a puzzle.

 
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WHY DID A GIANT BIRD FLY BY AND YELL "HURRRRLLLEEEYYY!!!" THAT ONE TIME! WHY?!?!?!?!?!?

Damn you Lost, damn you to hell/purgatory/flashsideways

 
It was a good show. It explained what it needed to. Some of you need to get over it.

"BUT I NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BIRD THING!!!!!!!!!!"

Get over yourself. You're probably the same people that make The Big Bang Theory the #1 show on TV.
It most definitely did not explain what it needed to, and often when it did try the explanation was really stupid.
Yeah, no it did. The fact that you didn't get and/or like the explanation doesn't completely invalidate the explanation. You didn't like it. Move on. Quit #####ing about it, already.
Show is over - if you are so happy with it why do feel the need to come in here and defend it?
I like the fact that you feel the need to come in here and rip on me for defending a show that is over, completely glossing over the fact that the show is over, so why the need to come in here and rip on it in the first place? Your logic is amusing.

For the record, I felt the need to defend the show because here we had a poster who was just now getting into it. He deserved the ability to watch the show and form his own opinions on it. And yet, some people can't quite get over the fact that they didn't explain the bird thing, SO IT WAS THE WORST SHOW IN HISTORY. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! DON"T WATCH IT, GUY WHO'S NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE PARTS OF IT.

 
Ah, this again. Funny how the haters are the most vocal ones around. I for one, loved the show, one of my all time favorites. I don't care if there were some loose ends, I enjoyed it all. I don't think it was all made up as it went along, that is disingenuous. They answered a ton of things, I just think that people didn't like the ending or the explanations of the "things" on the island, etc. To the person watching it now, I would finish it to the end and enjoy it.

 
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I think it's pretty simple...

If you were into the story because of the characters then you came away satisfied. The "stuff" was just a string of MacGuffins to get the characters in interesting situations doing interesting things.

If you found the "stuff" to be the central reason for the show's existence (particularly the island itself) then you came away disappointed,

I always found the characters interesting. :shrug:

 
SmoovySmoov said:
FreeBaGeL said:
El Floppo said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Ok wait when did we start ripping on The Big Bang Theory up in here? That show is hilarious.
:lmao:

wait... what? link to hilarity, please.
my link

yw.
I like the fact that they add the laugh track, so I know when it's supposed to be funny.
Wait a sec... was it supposed to link to the entire series and not to something actually funny?

 
It's obviously impossible to enjoy the show and still find all the dead-end story-lines annoying.

Oh wait.. . no... that's exactly how I feel. Fan of the show, but disappointed that so much of it went *poof*

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I think it's pretty simple...

If you were into the story because of the characters then you came away satisfied. The "stuff" was just a string of MacGuffins to get the characters in interesting situations doing interesting things.

If you found the "stuff" to be the central reason for the show's existence (particularly the island itself) then you came away disappointed,

I always found the characters interesting. :shrug:
If I went in knowing I was only watching a soap opera then I wouldn't be disappointed. But that's not how the show was sold to viewers.

 
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SmoovySmoov said:
FreeBaGeL said:
El Floppo said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Ok wait when did we start ripping on The Big Bang Theory up in here? That show is hilarious.
:lmao:

wait... what? link to hilarity, please.
my link

yw.
I like the fact that they add the laugh track, so I know when it's supposed to be funny.
Wait a sec... was it supposed to link to the entire series and not to something actually funny?
Yes, the entire series is funny.

ETA: Ok, not the entire series. The first few episodes were horrible and actually caused me to quit it the first time I watched it. But when random re-runs started coming on it was very different.

 
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SmoovySmoov said:
FreeBaGeL said:
El Floppo said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Ok wait when did we start ripping on The Big Bang Theory up in here? That show is hilarious.
:lmao:

wait... what? link to hilarity, please.
my link

yw.
I like the fact that they add the laugh track, so I know when it's supposed to be funny.
Wait a sec... was it supposed to link to the entire series and not to something actually funny?
Yes, the entire series is funny.
The little that I've been able to stomach is really not funny at all, so I wrote it off- that's why I wanted a link.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
stbugs said:
I don't think it was all made up as it went along, that is disingenuous.
I don't see how you could watch the whole series and conclude this.
Umm, there were plenty of plot lines that they alluded to really early on that they hooked into later in the show. Making it up as they went a long is not true and I was very much into the threads on here about the show since the beginning.

Let's just start with Jack's vision of his Dad in the first few minutes of the show. Pretty sure we know it was the smoke monster all along and they got back to that quite a bit in terms of the visions that were interactions with people. I was one of the people in those threads, probably the main one, that mentioned all the spots where I thought we were seeing those smoke monster visions very early in the show.

Anyway, I am not going to debate this. If you missed the tie-ins, no wonder why you didn't like it and thought they made it all up. I will just disagree wholeheartedly even if I didn't like every answer they gave.

 
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fatguyinalittlecoat said:
stbugs said:
I don't think it was all made up as it went along, that is disingenuous.
I don't see how you could watch the whole series and conclude this.
Umm, there were plenty of plot lines that they alluded to really early on that they hooked into later in the show. Making it up as they went a long is not true and I was very much into the threads on here about the show since the beginning.

Let's just start with Jack's vision of his Dad in the first few minutes of the show. Pretty sure we know it was the smoke monster all along and they got back to that quite a bit in terms of the visions that were interactions with people. I was one of the people in those threads, probably the main one, that mentioned all the spots where I thought we were seeing those smoke monster visions very early in the show.

Anyway, I am not going to debate this. If you missed the tie-ins, no wonder why you didn't like it and thought they made it all up. I will just disagree wholeheartedly even if I didn't like every answer they gave.
I haven't watched or thought a whole lot about the show since it ended, so I'm not sure about the specific thing you're talking about with the vision of Jack's Dad. How do you know that at the time they showed the vision, the writers knew it would eventually be revealed to be the smoke monster? It seems just as likely that the smoke monster explanation was something they came up with later.

Instead of that, let's talk about something I remember a little better -- the numbers. Remember how Hurley won the lottery using the numbers, and then the radio broadcast on the island was the numbers, and there was some crazy dude in an asylum chanting the numbers, and then they had to punch the numbers into the computer in the hatch, and they kept showing the numbers everywhere? And every time we saw the numbers in a new context we said "WOW!!! Those numbers are the same numbers we've seen in all these other places, this is really getting interesting! I wonder what it means."

And everybody watching was posting theories about the significance of the numbers, and what it meant that these same numbers were popping up in so many different contexts that seemed unconnected. We were all trying to come up with theories about what those numbers were all about. And they were selling T-shirts with the numbers on them, and it was one of the biggest gimmicks from the early seasons of Lost, you really couldn't avoid people writing and talking about the stupid numbers.

Well, it turns out that the numbers meant nothing. Yeah, on some side website they later made up some ridiculous thing about what the numbers meant, but it didn't explain in any way all the different places the numbers appeared. The whole thing was just bull####. We were trying to figure out a mystery that wasn't a mystery at all. Every time we said "WOW", we were only saying "WOW" because we thought that we had just discovered another piece to the puzzle. We thought we were getting closer to figuring out what we had all been trying to figure out all along. But there was no puzzle. It was just a bunch of puzzle pieces in a box that don't fit together or make a picture. We were all duped.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
stbugs said:
I don't think it was all made up as it went along, that is disingenuous.
I don't see how you could watch the whole series and conclude this.
Umm, there were plenty of plot lines that they alluded to really early on that they hooked into later in the show. Making it up as they went a long is not true and I was very much into the threads on here about the show since the beginning.

Let's just start with Jack's vision of his Dad in the first few minutes of the show. Pretty sure we know it was the smoke monster all along and they got back to that quite a bit in terms of the visions that were interactions with people. I was one of the people in those threads, probably the main one, that mentioned all the spots where I thought we were seeing those smoke monster visions very early in the show.

Anyway, I am not going to debate this. If you missed the tie-ins, no wonder why you didn't like it and thought they made it all up. I will just disagree wholeheartedly even if I didn't like every answer they gave.
I haven't watched or thought a whole lot about the show since it ended, so I'm not sure about the specific thing you're talking about with the vision of Jack's Dad. How do you know that at the time they showed the vision, the writers knew it would eventually be revealed to be the smoke monster? It seems just as likely that the smoke monster explanation was something they came up with later.

Instead of that, let's talk about something I remember a little better -- the numbers. Remember how Hurley won the lottery using the numbers, and then the radio broadcast on the island was the numbers, and there was some crazy dude in an asylum chanting the numbers, and then they had to punch the numbers into the computer in the hatch, and they kept showing the numbers everywhere? And every time we saw the numbers in a new context we said "WOW!!! Those numbers are the same numbers we've seen in all these other places, this is really getting interesting! I wonder what it means."

And everybody watching was posting theories about the significance of the numbers, and what it meant that these same numbers were popping up in so many different contexts that seemed unconnected. We were all trying to come up with theories about what those numbers were all about. And they were selling T-shirts with the numbers on them, and it was one of the biggest gimmicks from the early seasons of Lost, you really couldn't avoid people writing and talking about the stupid numbers.

Well, it turns out that the numbers meant nothing. Yeah, on some side website they later made up some ridiculous thing about what the numbers meant, but it didn't explain in any way all the different places the numbers appeared. The whole thing was just bull####. We were trying to figure out a mystery that wasn't a mystery at all. Every time we said "WOW", we were only saying "WOW" because we thought that we had just discovered another piece to the puzzle. We thought we were getting closer to figuring out what we had all been trying to figure out all along. But there was no puzzle. It was just a bunch of puzzle pieces in a box that don't fit together or make a picture. We were all duped.
Thank you for proving his point. The numbers corresponded with each of those that were chosen as possible replacements for Jacob, and were also part of an equation that predicted mankind's extinction. Just because you didn't pick up on that, doesn't mean the entire show was stupid.

 
so purgatory? I watch it all and have no clue what i watched. but i enjoyed being on the forums and seeing post like "did you see what book this guy was holding" or the island is a tuning fork. i think the social experience it offered was new and revolutionary at the time.

 
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fatguyinalittlecoat said:
stbugs said:
I don't think it was all made up as it went along, that is disingenuous.
I don't see how you could watch the whole series and conclude this.
Umm, there were plenty of plot lines that they alluded to really early on that they hooked into later in the show. Making it up as they went a long is not true and I was very much into the threads on here about the show since the beginning.Let's just start with Jack's vision of his Dad in the first few minutes of the show. Pretty sure we know it was the smoke monster all along and they got back to that quite a bit in terms of the visions that were interactions with people. I was one of the people in those threads, probably the main one, that mentioned all the spots where I thought we were seeing those smoke monster visions very early in the show.

Anyway, I am not going to debate this. If you missed the tie-ins, no wonder why you didn't like it and thought they made it all up. I will just disagree wholeheartedly even if I didn't like every answer they gave.
I haven't watched or thought a whole lot about the show since it ended, so I'm not sure about the specific thing you're talking about with the vision of Jack's Dad. How do you know that at the time they showed the vision, the writers knew it would eventually be revealed to be the smoke monster? It seems just as likely that the smoke monster explanation was something they came up with later.

Instead of that, let's talk about something I remember a little better -- the numbers. Remember how Hurley won the lottery using the numbers, and then the radio broadcast on the island was the numbers, and there was some crazy dude in an asylum chanting the numbers, and then they had to punch the numbers into the computer in the hatch, and they kept showing the numbers everywhere? And every time we saw the numbers in a new context we said "WOW!!! Those numbers are the same numbers we've seen in all these other places, this is really getting interesting! I wonder what it means."

And everybody watching was posting theories about the significance of the numbers, and what it meant that these same numbers were popping up in so many different contexts that seemed unconnected. We were all trying to come up with theories about what those numbers were all about. And they were selling T-shirts with the numbers on them, and it was one of the biggest gimmicks from the early seasons of Lost, you really couldn't avoid people writing and talking about the stupid numbers.

Well, it turns out that the numbers meant nothing. Yeah, on some side website they later made up some ridiculous thing about what the numbers meant, but it didn't explain in any way all the different places the numbers appeared. The whole thing was just bull####. We were trying to figure out a mystery that wasn't a mystery at all. Every time we said "WOW", we were only saying "WOW" because we thought that we had just discovered another piece to the puzzle. We thought we were getting closer to figuring out what we had all been trying to figure out all along. But there was no puzzle. It was just a bunch of puzzle pieces in a box that don't fit together or make a picture. We were all duped.
Thank you for proving his point. The numbers corresponded with each of those that were chosen as possible replacements for Jacob, and were also part of an equation that predicted mankind's extinction. Just because you didn't pick up on that, doesn't mean the entire show was stupid.
I haven't seen anything about this. Do you have a link or backstory as to this theory. I'm interested.

 
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fatguyinalittlecoat said:
stbugs said:
I don't think it was all made up as it went along, that is disingenuous.
I don't see how you could watch the whole series and conclude this.
Umm, there were plenty of plot lines that they alluded to really early on that they hooked into later in the show. Making it up as they went a long is not true and I was very much into the threads on here about the show since the beginning.Let's just start with Jack's vision of his Dad in the first few minutes of the show. Pretty sure we know it was the smoke monster all along and they got back to that quite a bit in terms of the visions that were interactions with people. I was one of the people in those threads, probably the main one, that mentioned all the spots where I thought we were seeing those smoke monster visions very early in the show.

Anyway, I am not going to debate this. If you missed the tie-ins, no wonder why you didn't like it and thought they made it all up. I will just disagree wholeheartedly even if I didn't like every answer they gave.
I haven't watched or thought a whole lot about the show since it ended, so I'm not sure about the specific thing you're talking about with the vision of Jack's Dad. How do you know that at the time they showed the vision, the writers knew it would eventually be revealed to be the smoke monster? It seems just as likely that the smoke monster explanation was something they came up with later.

Instead of that, let's talk about something I remember a little better -- the numbers. Remember how Hurley won the lottery using the numbers, and then the radio broadcast on the island was the numbers, and there was some crazy dude in an asylum chanting the numbers, and then they had to punch the numbers into the computer in the hatch, and they kept showing the numbers everywhere? And every time we saw the numbers in a new context we said "WOW!!! Those numbers are the same numbers we've seen in all these other places, this is really getting interesting! I wonder what it means."

And everybody watching was posting theories about the significance of the numbers, and what it meant that these same numbers were popping up in so many different contexts that seemed unconnected. We were all trying to come up with theories about what those numbers were all about. And they were selling T-shirts with the numbers on them, and it was one of the biggest gimmicks from the early seasons of Lost, you really couldn't avoid people writing and talking about the stupid numbers.

Well, it turns out that the numbers meant nothing. Yeah, on some side website they later made up some ridiculous thing about what the numbers meant, but it didn't explain in any way all the different places the numbers appeared. The whole thing was just bull####. We were trying to figure out a mystery that wasn't a mystery at all. Every time we said "WOW", we were only saying "WOW" because we thought that we had just discovered another piece to the puzzle. We thought we were getting closer to figuring out what we had all been trying to figure out all along. But there was no puzzle. It was just a bunch of puzzle pieces in a box that don't fit together or make a picture. We were all duped.
Thank you for proving his point. The numbers corresponded with each of those that were chosen as possible replacements for Jacob, and were also part of an equation that predicted mankind's extinction. Just because you didn't pick up on that, doesn't mean the entire show was stupid.
I haven't seen anything about this. Do you have a link or backstory as to this theory. I'm interested.
It was part of all that off-line stuff. That was one of the great things about the Lost threads here, there were a few guys that did all of that and posted links in the threads. It made it much easier to follow all the on-line stuff. Honestly, I don't know how much is gone now. Check the Wiki link posted above, it probably has all of that.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
stbugs said:
I don't think it was all made up as it went along, that is disingenuous.
I don't see how you could watch the whole series and conclude this.
Umm, there were plenty of plot lines that they alluded to really early on that they hooked into later in the show. Making it up as they went a long is not true and I was very much into the threads on here about the show since the beginning.Let's just start with Jack's vision of his Dad in the first few minutes of the show. Pretty sure we know it was the smoke monster all along and they got back to that quite a bit in terms of the visions that were interactions with people. I was one of the people in those threads, probably the main one, that mentioned all the spots where I thought we were seeing those smoke monster visions very early in the show.

Anyway, I am not going to debate this. If you missed the tie-ins, no wonder why you didn't like it and thought they made it all up. I will just disagree wholeheartedly even if I didn't like every answer they gave.
I haven't watched or thought a whole lot about the show since it ended, so I'm not sure about the specific thing you're talking about with the vision of Jack's Dad. How do you know that at the time they showed the vision, the writers knew it would eventually be revealed to be the smoke monster? It seems just as likely that the smoke monster explanation was something they came up with later.

Instead of that, let's talk about something I remember a little better -- the numbers. Remember how Hurley won the lottery using the numbers, and then the radio broadcast on the island was the numbers, and there was some crazy dude in an asylum chanting the numbers, and then they had to punch the numbers into the computer in the hatch, and they kept showing the numbers everywhere? And every time we saw the numbers in a new context we said "WOW!!! Those numbers are the same numbers we've seen in all these other places, this is really getting interesting! I wonder what it means."

And everybody watching was posting theories about the significance of the numbers, and what it meant that these same numbers were popping up in so many different contexts that seemed unconnected. We were all trying to come up with theories about what those numbers were all about. And they were selling T-shirts with the numbers on them, and it was one of the biggest gimmicks from the early seasons of Lost, you really couldn't avoid people writing and talking about the stupid numbers.

Well, it turns out that the numbers meant nothing. Yeah, on some side website they later made up some ridiculous thing about what the numbers meant, but it didn't explain in any way all the different places the numbers appeared. The whole thing was just bull####. We were trying to figure out a mystery that wasn't a mystery at all. Every time we said "WOW", we were only saying "WOW" because we thought that we had just discovered another piece to the puzzle. We thought we were getting closer to figuring out what we had all been trying to figure out all along. But there was no puzzle. It was just a bunch of puzzle pieces in a box that don't fit together or make a picture. We were all duped.
Thank you for proving his point. The numbers corresponded with each of those that were chosen as possible replacements for Jacob, and were also part of an equation that predicted mankind's extinction. Just because you didn't pick up on that, doesn't mean the entire show was stupid.
I haven't seen anything about this. Do you have a link or backstory as to this theory. I'm interested.
No idea. That's just what I remembered. I haven't watched the show since it went off the air.

 
I haven't watched or thought a whole lot about the show since it ended, so I'm not sure about the specific thing you're talking about with the vision of Jack's Dad. How do you know that at the time they showed the vision, the writers knew it would eventually be revealed to be the smoke monster? It seems just as likely that the smoke monster explanation was something they came up with later.

Instead of that, let's talk about something I remember a little better -- the numbers. Remember how Hurley won the lottery using the numbers, and then the radio broadcast on the island was the numbers, and there was some crazy dude in an asylum chanting the numbers, and then they had to punch the numbers into the computer in the hatch, and they kept showing the numbers everywhere? And every time we saw the numbers in a new context we said "WOW!!! Those numbers are the same numbers we've seen in all these other places, this is really getting interesting! I wonder what it means."

And everybody watching was posting theories about the significance of the numbers, and what it meant that these same numbers were popping up in so many different contexts that seemed unconnected. We were all trying to come up with theories about what those numbers were all about. And they were selling T-shirts with the numbers on them, and it was one of the biggest gimmicks from the early seasons of Lost, you really couldn't avoid people writing and talking about the stupid numbers.

Well, it turns out that the numbers meant nothing. Yeah, on some side website they later made up some ridiculous thing about what the numbers meant, but it didn't explain in any way all the different places the numbers appeared. The whole thing was just bull####. We were trying to figure out a mystery that wasn't a mystery at all. Every time we said "WOW", we were only saying "WOW" because we thought that we had just discovered another piece to the puzzle. We thought we were getting closer to figuring out what we had all been trying to figure out all along. But there was no puzzle. It was just a bunch of puzzle pieces in a box that don't fit together or make a picture. We were all duped.
Thank you for proving his point. The numbers corresponded with each of those that were chosen as possible replacements for Jacob, and were also part of an equation that predicted mankind's extinction. Just because you didn't pick up on that, doesn't mean the entire show was stupid.
No, I think you're proving my point here. That stuff was just made up WAY after the numbers were introduced on the show. It doesn't explain anything relevant. I'll try to flesh this out more later if I have a chance.

 
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I haven't watched or thought a whole lot about the show since it ended, so I'm not sure about the specific thing you're talking about with the vision of Jack's Dad. How do you know that at the time they showed the vision, the writers knew it would eventually be revealed to be the smoke monster? It seems just as likely that the smoke monster explanation was something they came up with later.

Instead of that, let's talk about something I remember a little better -- the numbers. Remember how Hurley won the lottery using the numbers, and then the radio broadcast on the island was the numbers, and there was some crazy dude in an asylum chanting the numbers, and then they had to punch the numbers into the computer in the hatch, and they kept showing the numbers everywhere? And every time we saw the numbers in a new context we said "WOW!!! Those numbers are the same numbers we've seen in all these other places, this is really getting interesting! I wonder what it means."

And everybody watching was posting theories about the significance of the numbers, and what it meant that these same numbers were popping up in so many different contexts that seemed unconnected. We were all trying to come up with theories about what those numbers were all about. And they were selling T-shirts with the numbers on them, and it was one of the biggest gimmicks from the early seasons of Lost, you really couldn't avoid people writing and talking about the stupid numbers.

Well, it turns out that the numbers meant nothing. Yeah, on some side website they later made up some ridiculous thing about what the numbers meant, but it didn't explain in any way all the different places the numbers appeared. The whole thing was just bull####. We were trying to figure out a mystery that wasn't a mystery at all. Every time we said "WOW", we were only saying "WOW" because we thought that we had just discovered another piece to the puzzle. We thought we were getting closer to figuring out what we had all been trying to figure out all along. But there was no puzzle. It was just a bunch of puzzle pieces in a box that don't fit together or make a picture. We were all duped.
Thank you for proving his point. The numbers corresponded with each of those that were chosen as possible replacements for Jacob, and were also part of an equation that predicted mankind's extinction. Just because you didn't pick up on that, doesn't mean the entire show was stupid.
No, I think you're proving my point here. That stuff was just made up WAY after the numbers were introduced on the show. It doesn't explain anything relevant. I'll try to flesh this out more later if I have a chance.
If you think that doesn't explain anything relevant, then you did, in fact, miss the entire point of the show, and arguing with you about it years after the show has ended will prove to be nothing but fruitless. But, please. I look forward to your diatribe about something you obviously didn't understand.

 
The great thing about the information presented in LOST was that it made the individual think. Made the individual connect to the people, the events, the story. If LOST brought up a topic, which it did many, normal people, myself included, didn't know much about there was this great thing called The Internet that we could turn to. The topics brought up allowed people to think, theorize, discuss, research and then come back the next week with a whole new set of things to pick up.

The whole show was a huge Monet painting and when you step back and think and put the stories altogether, even a simpleton could walk away and say, "that was great." It was a nonlinear story and it showed coincidences in these peoples lives that seemed like nothing and were nothing but played a part in each of their lives. We all have things like this in our lives and we think nothing of the events until a bigger event happens.

Just in the past couple of years some people have gotten engaged to each other and when looking back at family photos they see each other in them. Small events in each of their lives, meant nothing at the time but the butterfly flapped its wings and years later they marry. LOST brought the simple, mundane and turned it into magic.

I think its sad that people want a linear story with everything told to them instead of filling in the gaps a bit. Use your minds people.

 
I don't mind loose ends. But I always got the feeling that a) the creators didn't really have a good idea of where everything was going and b) simultaneously, they packed in a lot of stuff that didn't fit or was shoe-horned in.

I think if if the show had been better thought-out, didn't fall back on a bunch of Mystikal mumbo-jumbo, was written better, and had better actors, it would've been a really good watch.

 
I loved this show more than most, and I was disapointed with all of the loose ends. Way too many. I can't defend it to the extent that some of you are doing... it is pretty clear that the writers were indeed making it up as they went along instead of having this grand master plan that they claimed existed. No such plan existed, that is clear. That said, great characters, suck you in plots... the only down note is that so much is left unresolved.

 
I loved this show more than most, and I was disapointed with all of the loose ends. Way too many. I can't defend it to the extent that some of you are doing... it is pretty clear that the writers were indeed making it up as they went along instead of having this grand master plan that they claimed existed. No such plan existed, that is clear. That said, great characters, suck you in plots... the only down note is that so much is left unresolved.
I loved this show more than most, and I was disapointed with all of the loose ends. Way too many. I can't defend it to the extent that some of you are doing... it is pretty clear that the writers were indeed making it up as they went along instead of having this grand master plan that they claimed existed. No such plan existed, that is clear. That said, great characters, suck you in plots... the only down note is that so much is left unresolved.
I know the creators discounted this- but I'm still convinced the Island was Purgatory... and they discounted it because it was so damned obvious and they wanted a bit more mystery. They went pretty far with the mystery, only to come back to something that was basically a version of the afterlife.

 
I loved this show more than most, and I was disapointed with all of the loose ends. Way too many. I can't defend it to the extent that some of you are doing... it is pretty clear that the writers were indeed making it up as they went along instead of having this grand master plan that they claimed existed. No such plan existed, that is clear. That said, great characters, suck you in plots... the only down note is that so much is left unresolved.
I loved this show more than most, and I was disapointed with all of the loose ends. Way too many. I can't defend it to the extent that some of you are doing... it is pretty clear that the writers were indeed making it up as they went along instead of having this grand master plan that they claimed existed. No such plan existed, that is clear. That said, great characters, suck you in plots... the only down note is that so much is left unresolved.
I know the creators discounted this- but I'm still convinced the Island was Purgatory... and they discounted it because it was so damned obvious and they wanted a bit more mystery. They went pretty far with the mystery, only to come back to something that was basically a version of the afterlife.
The island is the island... mystical epicenter of life apparently. The sideways flashes were indeed purgatory.

 
I loved this show more than most, and I was disapointed with all of the loose ends. Way too many. I can't defend it to the extent that some of you are doing... it is pretty clear that the writers were indeed making it up as they went along instead of having this grand master plan that they claimed existed. No such plan existed, that is clear. That said, great characters, suck you in plots... the only down note is that so much is left unresolved.
I loved this show more than most, and I was disapointed with all of the loose ends. Way too many. I can't defend it to the extent that some of you are doing... it is pretty clear that the writers were indeed making it up as they went along instead of having this grand master plan that they claimed existed. No such plan existed, that is clear. That said, great characters, suck you in plots... the only down note is that so much is left unresolved.
I know the creators discounted this- but I'm still convinced the Island was Purgatory... and they discounted it because it was so damned obvious and they wanted a bit more mystery. They went pretty far with the mystery, only to come back to something that was basically a version of the afterlife.
The island is the island... mystical epicenter of life apparently. The sideways flashes were indeed purgatory.
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I think the entire justification for the show was a lie. We were told that the writers knew where the story going. That was why I started watching the show, because that's such ambitious and groundbreaking TV I wanted to see how they pulled it off. I don't normally watch sci-fi shows, or fantasy shows, or whatever Lost was. Same with my wife and a lot of other folks that watched it. I think we alI watched it with the expectation that we were trying to figure something out and that the show was giving us clues the whole time that we would later say "so that's why that thing happened back in season 3!"

It turns out they had no idea where things were going. They were just making stuff up as they went along hoping they'd figure out a way to make it work. We weren't using information to try to figure out an answer, we were just speculating about what they would make up next. That doesn't seem nearly as interesting as trying to figure out a puzzle.
i think the writers initially intended the island to be purgatory. Once everyone figured this out during season 1, they said "no it's not purgatory" and scrambled to make it still relevant.

 

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