**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (5 Viewers)

[Dave Baker]

I couldn't remember how long they had once the beeping started until the countdown expired and I asked my wife. Her reply? "I think a minute and 80 seconds."

 

[PC Load Letter]

Dude, WTF did I just find.

You remember the Lost diary that was being kept on ABC.com by one of the background survivors?

Well, it got updated:

Mindbender

wow.I won't spoil, but I got a good guess who the sibling may be.

put it in white text. it's not spoiling anyway unless you know.

I don't know, butGuess:

Libby

side note: it is odd that she is the only one on IMDB without first/last name (aside from "Mr. Eko")

I don't think so. The journal existed before we were introduced to Libby.My guess is the blonde who was watching Sawyer and Jack play poker.

 

[Sclaffer]

What if "Henry Gale" is the other guy who left Desmond by himself in the hatch? Would make sense in that he would know the numbers, know how the hatch operated and how to get the doors to open.

 

[Jaysus]

On a side note, I know that every episode can't have all the characters in it, but has Eko even been on screen that last few weeks??

He was in the preview for next week's episode.

 

[Sclaffer]

And going back to before Locke got his legs caught under the door... when he heard the voice on the loudspeaker, he looked at the timer and it was sitting at 47:00. It didn't move or count down, like it was stopped. Did I just image that, or did it not continue to count down. The camera was focused on the clock long enough that we should have seen the countdown. What's up with that? Something to do with the PRD?

 

[jgb95]

Can somebody link the wall painting here?

http://www.forums.thehatchonline.com/index.php?showtopic=425

 

[PC Load Letter]

And going back to before Locke got his legs caught under the door... when he heard the voice on the loudspeaker, he looked at the timer and it was sitting at 47:00. It didn't move or count down, like it was stopped. Did I just image that, or did it not continue to count down. The camera was focused on the clock long enough that we should have seen the countdown. What's up with that? Something to do with the PRD?

The seconds only click down starting at 4:00 (or is it 2:00?) minutes.

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Can somebody link the wall painting here?

http://www.forums.thehatchonline.com/index.php?showtopic=425

Not that one, the painting that we saw when Locke and Kate first entered the hatch.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

also: why is Boone in next episode?

ETA: not in next, IMDB skipped episode 18.

 

[Bobcat10]

Can somebody link the wall painting here?

http://www.forums.thehatchonline.com/index.php?showtopic=425

Not that one, the painting that we saw when Locke and Kate first entered the hatch.

the mural or whatever.

 

[Bobcat10]

What if "Henry Gale" is the other guy who left Desmond by himself in the hatch? Would make sense in that he would know the numbers, know how the hatch operated and how to get the doors to open.

Interesting.

 

[Sludge]

I still wanna know how/why the Swan hatch sent up that huge beam of light back when Boone died and Locke was pounding on it.

Unless it was another hallucination...

That was caused by a bright light and mirrors. It happened again in the season opener. Desmond was able to look through a scope and using the light and mirrors it lit up that shaft.

 

[Buckychudd]

Almost forgot.

I know we speculated that Locke's dad was a conman, and probably the original Sawyer.

I think last night's episode pretty much confirms this.

 

[Sludge]

Almost forgot.

I know we speculated that Locke's dad was a conman, and probably the original Sawyer.

I think last night's episode pretty much confirms this.

Can you elaborate why you think that way? I really didn't notice anything that either confirms nor denies that assumption.

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Link to mural site: Note there are many images there, not just one.

Linky

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Almost forgot.

I know we speculated that Locke's dad was a conman, and probably the original Sawyer.

I think last night's episode pretty much confirms this.

Can you elaborate why you think that way? I really didn't notice anything that either confirms nor denies that assumption.

Locke's dad said something to the effect of (and I'm paraphrasing here) I just conned a guy out of 700 grand and now two thugs are looking to get it back from me. This is similar to Sawyer's "big score" cons he's pulled in his flashbacks.Couple that with him saying to Locke "You were conned" after he took his kidney and his age being about right to work the same "confidence man" scam that Sawyer does right now when Sawyer was 30 years younger and I can see him being the "original" Sawyer.

 

[Buckychudd]

Almost forgot.

I know we speculated that Locke's dad was a conman, and probably the original Sawyer.

I think last night's episode pretty much confirms this.

Can you elaborate why you think that way? I really didn't notice anything that either confirms nor denies that assumption.

Well he's definitely a con-man. He said he got the $700K pulling a retirement con.Given all the connections in the show already, having Locke’s father be associated with Sawyer only makes sense. It could be they've just worked together and he isn’t the "original" Sawyer though.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Given all the connections in the show already, having Locke’s father be associated with Sawyer only makes sense.

Is there a list in this thread of all the connections?

 

[Buckychudd]

Given all the connections in the show already, having Locke’s father be associated with Sawyer only makes sense.

Is there a list in this thread of all the connections?

A while back there was a link posted that listed all the connections. Given the length of this thread it might be a ##### to find though.

 

[Sludge]

I'm on board with the whole Locke's Dad is the real Sawyer. I have been ever since the kidney issue.

I was curious why you would think last night's episode confirmed that assumption. I thought maybe I missed a line somewhere that proved it to be true.

 

[Buckychudd]

I'm on board with the whole Locke's Dad is the real Sawyer. I have been ever since the kidney issue.

I was curious why you would think last night's episode confirmed that assumption. I thought maybe I missed a line somewhere that proved it to be true.

"Confirmed" might have been too strong, how about "lends a lot more credence to".

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Given all the connections in the show already, having Locke’s father be associated with Sawyer only makes sense.

Is there a list in this thread of all the connections?

A while back there was a link posted that listed all the connections. Given the length of this thread it might be a ##### to find though.

Yeah, I'm not gonna try to find it. Just thought we might compile one if it hadn't been done before. I think the connections make pretty clear that there's something supernatural going on. Or that the story is unfolding within someone's mind. Or something like that.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

My guess is that this show is never going to really explain anything.

It doesn't have to, the show has taken on a life of its own on the internet.

You guys have all become part of the Lost Experiment and now we've got real life Jacks and Lockes in this forum. Give people bits and pieces of data and watch what happens.

 

[cstu]

My guess is that this show is never going to really explain anything.

It doesn't have to, the show has taken on a life of its own on the internet.

You guys have all become part of the Lost Experiment and now we've got real life Jacks and Lockes in this forum. Give people bits and pieces of data and watch what happens.

The writers didn't get a show made without a full story and conclusion.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

My guess is that this show is never going to really explain anything.

It doesn't have to, the show has taken on a life of its own on the internet. 

You guys have all become part of the Lost Experiment and now we've got real life Jacks and Lockes in this forum.  Give people bits and pieces of data and watch what happens.

The writers didn't get a show made without a full story and conclusion.

You are so wrong.They gave them a nice pilot and a plan for the first season and then we will see what happens.

 

[bagger.]

My guess is that this show is never going to really explain anything.

It doesn't have to, the show has taken on a life of its own on the internet.  

You guys have all become part of the Lost Experiment and now we've got real life Jacks and Lockes in this forum.  Give people bits and pieces of data and watch what happens.

The writers didn't get a show made without a full story and conclusion.

You are so wrong.They gave them a nice pilot and a plan for the first season and then we will see what happens.

most pilots have no idea if the show is going to last 4 episodes.

just like george lucas didn't know he'd make 6 movies or else there would have been a lot different in the original star wars.

it happened.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Given all the connections in the show already, having Locke’s father be associated with Sawyer only makes sense.

Is there a list in this thread of all the connections?

A while back there was a link posted that listed all the connections. Given the length of this thread it might be a ##### to find though.

Yeah, I'm not gonna try to find it. Just thought we might compile one if it hadn't been done before. I think the connections make pretty clear that there's something supernatural going on. Or that the story is unfolding within someone's mind. Or something like that.

Here's a partial list off the top of my head:1) Sawyer met Jack's dad at the bar

2) Kate's dad met Sayid in Iraq

3) Hurley owns Locke's box company

4) Locke inspected Sayid's girlfriend's house

5) Desmond met Jack before they were on the island

6) Hurley looked at Charlie's album in the store

7) Locke's dad is the "original Sawyer"?

I think there are a lot more, I'm just having trouble coming up with them right now.

 

[Buckychudd]

Given all the connections in the show already, having Locke’s father be associated with Sawyer only makes sense.

Is there a list in this thread of all the connections?

A while back there was a link posted that listed all the connections. Given the length of this thread it might be a ##### to find though.

Yeah, I'm not gonna try to find it. Just thought we might compile one if it hadn't been done before. I think the connections make pretty clear that there's something supernatural going on. Or that the story is unfolding within someone's mind. Or something like that.

Here's a partial list off the top of my head:1) Sawyer met Jack's dad at the bar

2) Kate's dad met Sayid in Iraq

3) Hurley owns Locke's box company

4) Locke inspected Sayid's girlfriend's house

5) Desmond met Jack before they were on the island

6) Hurley looked at Charlie's album in the store

7) Locke's dad is the "original Sawyer"?

I think there are a lot more, I'm just having trouble coming up with them right now.

I found the link, I don't know if he's updated it lately.http://lost.cubit.net/connections.php

Survivor 1 Survivor 2 Connections

Kate Sayid Sayid appears on the TV in the army office when she visits her dad

Kate's stepfather, Sam Austen, apprehends Sayid during the gulf war

Hurley Locke Hurley owns the box company Locke works for

Hurley and Locke's mother were both patients at SRMHI

Hurley and Locke both worked for Randy (Hurley at Mr. Cluck's, Locke at the box company)

Hurley Ethan This is a stretch, but Hurley owns a shoe company in Ontario and Ethan says he is from Ontario

Hurley Sayid Another stretch: Hurley has a friend who fought in the gulf war. Sayid fought in the gulf war.

Hurley Jin Hurley appears on TV when Jin visits the environmental secretaries house

Sawyer Jack Sawyer drank with Jack's dad in Australia

Sawyer Boone Sawyer was at the police station when Boone visited

Sawyer Hurley The lotto girl that announced Hurley's numbers is with Sawyer at the hotel where Hibbs awaits

Sawyer Kate Sawyer and Gordy met in a restraunt and were served by Kate's mother

Boone Shannon Boone's mother married Shannon's father

Jin Sun Jin and Sun are married

Michael Walt Michael is Walt's father

Jack Shannon Shannon's father, Adam Rutherford, was in the SUV that hit Jack's future wife, Sarah. Adam died in the ER after the accident, Jack wasn't able to work on him because he chose to work on Sarah.

Jack Desmond Desmond and Jack met late one night running steps at a stadium. Desmond encouraged Jack to "change his angle" and made him think about the possibility of Sarah being able to walk again.

?Claire ?Other Speculative stretch: Did another plane passenger visit the same psychic? Does this explain how psychic knew of plane crash? From previous reading? This connection isn't established yet, just speculative.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I found the link, I don't know if he's updated it lately.

http://lost.cubit.net/connections.php

Thanks.

 

[aardball44]

What's the point of taking the dead guy's name?

Anyone have a thought on this?

Gave him something concrete to build a backstory off of. Odds are they got all the info off of Gale that they could, then killed him to ensure that any of the "Others" could overtake his identity and story should they be captured. Plus, they knew that if SOMEHOW people could do rudimentary research on a person's existence (don't ask me how) from the island, it would look accurate. Just my guess.

This seems like a stretch. He could have just made up a name and identity. Or even used his real name. It's not like the survivors know anything about him.

Because it made for a good conclusion to the show last night?

That would be incredibly lame if true.What about the possibility that he actually is the real Henry Gale, and the black guy had a fake ID?

It's possible the black Henry Gale was the wife of the white Henry Gale, and the story he's telling is true. He left out the same-sex marriage detail to avoid being shunned by the other castaways.



Actually, that can't be it either. Henry Gale was from Minnesota, not Massachusetts.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

It's possible the black Henry Gale was the wife of the white Henry Gale, and the story he's telling is true. He left out the same-sex marriage detail to avoid being shunned by the other castaways.

Maybe the island made him turn white. That would explain the polar bear too.

 

[aardball44]

Dude, WTF did I just find.

You remember the Lost diary that was being kept on ABC.com by one of the background survivors?

Well, it got updated:

Mindbender

I was thinking it could be Hurley, too. The amount of people who know about Gale are very few.Hurley appears to have been institutionalized at one point, so it's within the realm of possibility that he's got some sort of psychological problem. In his preview he talks about being "sick" IIRC.

I can't say too much here without referring to a very interesting and previously-posted spoiler, but maybe Hurley DID write the letter and doesn't even know it.

 

[aardball44]

Dude, WTF did I just find.

You remember the Lost diary that was being kept on ABC.com by one of the background survivors?

Well, it got updated:

Mindbender

I was thinking it could be Hurley, too. The amount of people who know about Gale are very few.Hurley appears to have been institutionalized at one point, so it's within the realm of possibility that he's got some sort of psychological problem. In his preview he talks about being "sick" IIRC.

I thought the diary was written by a girl.

Libby?

 

[BGP]

Odds that the entire "Henry Gayle lied" issue is just dropped by the writers and he ends up a trusted member of the group anyway?

 

[Marc Levin]

Almost forgot.

I know we speculated that Locke's dad was a conman, and probably the original Sawyer.

I think last night's episode pretty much confirms this.

Can you elaborate why you think that way? I really didn't notice anything that either confirms nor denies that assumption.

Locke's dad said something to the effect of (and I'm paraphrasing here) I just conned a guy out of 700 grand and now two thugs are looking to get it back from me. This is similar to Sawyer's "big score" cons he's pulled in his flashbacks.Couple that with him saying to Locke "You were conned" after he took his kidney and his age being about right to work the same "confidence man" scam that Sawyer does right now when Sawyer was 30 years younger and I can see him being the "original" Sawyer.

I don't disagree, but this is hardly evidence to :confirm: that suspicion. If anything it opens it up to further speculation, but not confirmation.

 

[paulpogo]

Odds that the entire "Henry Gayle lied" issue is just dropped by the writers and he ends up a trusted member of the group anyway?

Everyone keeps saying Henry Gale and all I can think about is that's Dororthy's uncle from the Wizard of Oz.

 

[Marc Levin]

A quick aside from all the Map talk... I loved Sayid's line late last night. "So I dug up that grave..."

With Eko not in the storylines, Sayid is reclaiming the role of biggest badass.

If they ever kill off Sayid, I'm not watching the show anymore.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Another map link

 

[noneother]

what do you guys mean "original sawyer"??

is this the Dread Pirate Roberts? or something? a con man named sawyer and the mantel gets handed down?

 

[Marc Levin]

what do you guys mean "original sawyer"??

is this the Dread Pirate Roberts? or something? a con man named sawyer and the mantel gets handed down?

his real name is not Sawyer. he assumed the name, which was the name of some con man he worked with or something along those lines - one of these LostFreeks will be able to fill you in way better than me.we learned that bit of info very early on in season one.

 

[Corporation]

What if "Henry Gale" is the other guy who left Desmond by himself in the hatch? Would make sense in that he would know the numbers, know how the hatch operated and how to get the doors to open.

Interesting.

Desmond said his partner was named Kelvin and that he died. Desmond could have been lying, but I don't think Gale = Kelvin.

 

[jhexel]

Odds that the entire "Henry Gayle lied" issue is just dropped by the writers and he ends up a trusted member of the group anyway?

Everyone keeps saying Henry Gale and all I can think about is that's Dororthy's uncle from the Wizard of Oz.

And at the end of Oz the "Wizard" floats off in a hot air balloon...like the one that Henry Gale said he crashed in...I think you're onto something here.

 

[Sclaffer]

What if "Henry Gale" is the other guy who left Desmond by himself in the hatch? Would make sense in that he would know the numbers, know how the hatch operated and how to get the doors to open.

Interesting.

Desmond said his partner was named Kelvin and that he died. Desmond could have been lying, but I don't think Gale = Kelvin.

I think that Desmond assumed that Kelvin died, due to the quarantine warning on the doors, and Kelvin leaving. Leaving the hatch = death in Desmond's way of thinking. That thought probably changed when he saw the Losties alive and well. It's just a hunch.

 

[Sludge]

Not that it matters but there is a Walt sighting over at My name is Earl on NBC.

 

[Chiefs Transplant]

P.R.D. Every 6 - 8 months

Hmmm. P.R.D. = Plane Resupply Drop???

In the military, P.R.D. stands for "personnel rotation date" which means the date that you are due to transfer or leave.

 

[prosopis]

what do you guys mean "original sawyer"??

is this the Dread Pirate Roberts?  or something?  a con man named sawyer and the mantel gets handed down?

his real name is not Sawyer. he assumed the name, which was the name of some con man he worked with or something along those lines - one of these LostFreeks will be able to fill you in way better than me.we learned that bit of info very early on in season one.

He assumed the name Sawyer. Sawyer was the name of a con man that caused his father to kill himself. In the episode when Sawyer met Jacks father in Australia he thought he was going to get revenge on the the original Sawyer who fd up his parents. Turns out he was conned and the guy he was going to kill (I forget if he actually killed him) was not the original Sawyer.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Why is it, now, very difficult to find a bittorrent of last nights show?

 

[Sundays Rule]

Why is it, now, very difficult to find a bittorrent of last nights show?

Dont wanna fork up the two bucks to itunes?

 

[Challenge Everything]

Why is it, now, very difficult to find a bittorrent of last nights show?

Dont wanna fork up the two bucks to itunes?

No.

 

[(HULK)]

P.R.D. Every 6 - 8 months

Hmmm.  P.R.D. = Plane Resupply Drop???

In the military, P.R.D. stands for "personnel rotation date" which means the date that you are due to transfer or leave.

I work in the pentagon, and I've never heard that. I'm thinking its supposed to be Parachute Resupply Drop.Anyway, I went to a military acronym website, and here it what it listed:

PRD 1power range detector, 2program requirements data, 3program requirements document, 4product requirements document, 5Presidential review directive, 6personnel requirements document, 7[JP 1-0] Personnel Readiness Division, 8[AR 310-50] personnel readiness date, 9[AR 310-50] postal regulating detachment