Henry knew the trick (I believe he was being truthful) to getting off the island. Desmond didn't and thus never got away and neither did the first raft attempt. Remember they kept mentioning how big the island was, almost as if, they were really going away from it?I assume since there is a trick to get off the island, that there is probably a trick to getting to the island. The only way there is if an incident occurs and you are close enough (flight 815 and maybe Rousseau's ship?) or if you accidentally get there (Desmond and maybe Rousseau).Any thoughts on this from Henry to Michael: "Even so, you'll never be able to find this place".
And then he died on purpose so Desmond would go back. Now you're catching on.Good point...probably had his suit ripped by accident knowing that desmond would see it and follow.No, he was tricked into crashing the plane. The others knew what he was going to do based on their psychological tests. They set him up perfectly so he would crash that plane. That's how the others knew exactly who was on that plane, and who survived. It was all orchestrated by them.WTMF?
So, we have all these people on Flight 815, that have all these connections to each other. We have Desmond and Libby meeting and her giving him the ####### boat that crashes. We have the Others with the names of people who are good and bad . . . . . BUT DESMOND CRASHED THE ####### PLANE BY ACCIDENT!?!?!?
Eventhough Kelvin "joined Dharma," I think he was just part of the experiment. He wanted to get off the island and tricked Desmond into entering the numbers so he could leave. He was going off to fix the boat, not meet with other people.He probably figured since Desmond didn't get sick the first weeks or months he was there, that the quaranteen/sickness was a hoax.Except Kelvin just happened to be by the beach when Desmond was there, with enough time to get back to press the button.And he happened to be wearing his yellow Dharma containment suit, which we saw him take off earlier as there really is no "sickness".so he lied to him, he needed a guinea pig to keep pushing the buttonNot that I think the electromagnetism crashed Desmond's boat, but does anyone else think its interesting that Kelvin first told Desmond that there was no boat and then spent months fixing that boat in secret?I don't think it did and I don't think anyone said that. Just coincidence that he was lost in the same area. If she wasn't Widmore's daughter she doesn't have any clue about the island.By the way, did you not catch the part with the storm and how he was knocked unconscious from the waves crashing on his boat. The storm crashed his boat, he just drifted to the island.But magnets still shouldn't attract sailboats. That part is silly.
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I didn't notice thatAND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
I saw that too. I almost expected them to be in cahoots with Henry and company at that point. Looked like it was going to be one of those WWE moments where a wrestler turns bad.AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
I was disappointed in Hurley; not even a "No". He just went along with what the Others told him to do.I wanted to see a Deer Hunter escape sequence.AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
That was Jack saying "we're doin' it when we get outta this." Kate agreed and Sawyer was WTF?AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
Could have been a ruse to keep the "hostiles" away from him. He was a military guy so he may have known when the Others/Hostiles were following him or not. The suit equals a gimmick to test the Hostiles to report back that subject Kelvin is playing along with the experiemnts?Ok. Explain the suit.Kelvin mentioned that Desmond was out there for some time so Kelvin "just happened to be by the beach" is not accurate.Except Kelvin just happened to be by the beach when Desmond was there, with enough time to get back to press the button.
And he happened to be wearing his yellow Dharma containment suit, which we saw him take off earlier as there really is no "sickness".
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Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.
Poor use of the term. "Jumped the shark" does not refer to "the climax," it refers to the death throws of a show. LOST is clearly in it's prime right now.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.
I thought so too, but maybe it was more of a "What the #### do we do now?"AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
So what would they report about the months/years he spent with the suit off, presumably I guess, while he fixed the boat?Could have been a ruse to keep the "hostiles" away from him. He was a military guy so he may have known when the Others/Hostiles were following him or not. The suit equals a gimmick to test the Hostiles to report back that subject Kelvin is playing along with the experiemnts?Ok. Explain the suit.Kelvin mentioned that Desmond was out there for some time so Kelvin "just happened to be by the beach" is not accurate.Except Kelvin just happened to be by the beach when Desmond was there, with enough time to get back to press the button.
And he happened to be wearing his yellow Dharma containment suit, which we saw him take off earlier as there really is no "sickness".
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He probably figured since Desmond didn't get sick the first weeks or months he was there, that the quaranteen/sickness was a hoax.Except Kelvin just happened to be by the beach when Desmond was there, with enough time to get back to press the button.And he happened to be wearing his yellow Dharma containment suit, which we saw him take off earlier as there really is no "sickness".so he lied to him, he needed a guinea pig to keep pushing the buttonNot that I think the electromagnetism crashed Desmond's boat, but does anyone else think its interesting that Kelvin first told Desmond that there was no boat and then spent months fixing that boat in secret?I don't think it did and I don't think anyone said that. Just coincidence that he was lost in the same area. If she wasn't Widmore's daughter she doesn't have any clue about the island.By the way, did you not catch the part with the storm and how he was knocked unconscious from the waves crashing on his boat. The storm crashed his boat, he just drifted to the island.But magnets still shouldn't attract sailboats. That part is silly.
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They saw a bug eyed Jack Bauer sneaking up behind 'the others' with his gun aimed and ready for use.AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
If there's a "trick", then we've got to be talking about some 4th dimension or some type of supernatural stuff, right?Henry knew the trick (I believe he was being truthful) to getting off the island. Desmond didn't and thus never got away and neither did the first raft attempt. Remember they kept mentioning how big the island was, almost as if, they were really going away from it?I assume since there is a trick to get off the island, that there is probably a trick to getting to the island. The only way there is if an incident occurs and you are close enough (flight 815 and maybe Rousseau's ship?) or if you accidentally get there (Desmond and maybe Rousseau).Any thoughts on this from Henry to Michael: "Even so, you'll never be able to find this place".
I thought it was like a "stay calm, we'll get through this together" type look.I thought so too, but maybe it was more of a "What the #### do we do now?"AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
derivitive? we still have no idea whoTF the others are?!?!?!Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
maybe you're right - poor use of the term.I defined what I meant above- they are on the backside of the show's arc.Poor use of the term. "Jumped the shark" does not refer to "the climax," it refers to the death throws of a show. LOST is clearly in it's prime right now.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.
Please explain the mysteries of the hatches...Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
He looked at Jack and he nodded to Hurley that it was ok for him to go.I was disappointed in Hurley; not even a "No". He just went along with what the Others told him to do.I wanted to see a Deer Hunter escape sequence.AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
I thought it was a "we might be stuck in a cell together for a while so I want to decide which of you has the prettiest lips" look.I thought it was like a "stay calm, we'll get through this together" type look.I thought so too, but maybe it was more of a "What the #### do we do now?"AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
derivitive? we still have no idea whoTF the others are?!?!?!Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
Answering the main question that's still left hanging:Why are they all there?Where do they go from here?
Not necessarily...could be something like the Manhatten project.But....If there's a "trick", then we've got to be talking about some 4th dimension or some type of supernatural stuff, right?Henry knew the trick (I believe he was being truthful) to getting off the island. Desmond didn't and thus never got away and neither did the first raft attempt. Remember they kept mentioning how big the island was, almost as if, they were really going away from it?I assume since there is a trick to get off the island, that there is probably a trick to getting to the island. The only way there is if an incident occurs and you are close enough (flight 815 and maybe Rousseau's ship?) or if you accidentally get there (Desmond and maybe Rousseau).Any thoughts on this from Henry to Michael: "Even so, you'll never be able to find this place".
okSorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
Do you know what "jump the shark" means? It certainly doesnt apply here.Personaly, I will be glad if they end it in 2 seasons, rather than see ABC go against the writers' wishes and milk the show for all its worth.Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
I guess you have it all figured out.derivitive? we still have no idea whoTF the others are?!?!?!Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.confrontation with another group is confrontation with another group. who/whatever they are.
Yup - fits with Jack's plan - which we are not totally privvy to right now.He looked at Jack and he nodded to Hurley that it was ok for him to go.I was disappointed in Hurley; not even a "No". He just went along with what the Others told him to do.I wanted to see a Deer Hunter escape sequence.AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
No, first he nodded to hurley, then the VERY LAST THING was an exchange of looks between Jack and Kate.He looked at Jack and he nodded to Hurley that it was ok for him to go.I was disappointed in Hurley; not even a "No". He just went along with what the Others told him to do.I wanted to see a Deer Hunter escape sequence.AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
I definitely got the sense that Jack was up to something and either Kate was in on it or he wanted her to know he had a Plan B to get them out of the mess they were in.I thought it was like a "stay calm, we'll get through this together" type look.I thought so too, but maybe it was more of a "What the #### do we do now?"AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE "LOOK" JACK AND KATE EXCHANGED AT THE VERY END??????????? IT WAS A CONFIDENT NOD.
When they find out that Henry Gale is actually Alexander the Great* and the rest of the Others are from the great city of Atlantis, you will be removing your foot from your mouth.*Little known fact about Alexander was that when he was four and out and about at the great Macedonian Fruit Market, his foot was run over by a Persian in a chariot, and his pinky severed, thus fueling his desire to kick some Persian ###.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.
Levin = J.J. Abrams Jr.I guess you have it all figured out.derivitive? we still have no idea whoTF the others are?!?!?!Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.confrontation with another group is confrontation with another group. who/whatever they are.
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Is your back up a little bit with someone commenting on a show in a way you don't agree with?I guess you have it all figured out.derivitive? we still have no idea whoTF the others are?!?!?!Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.confrontation with another group is confrontation with another group. who/whatever they are.
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....and then you have the whole 'snowman riddle' tying it all together.From another board:
Okay. Here is my grand theory. Desmond said that the whole island is a snow globe and that there was nothing but the Island and water. Now, let's see, the sky turned white...That doesn't happen normally obviously. Well, maybe the whole island is a snow globe. Maybe the whole island is: Island and Water contained somehow. Maybe there is only one area of the containment field or whatever that one is able to leave through, which is where Michael and Walt were told to go (325 degrees). And maybe, if this whole island is contained, maybe it moves? And since Desmond's girlfriend was the daughter of Widmore, she must know a lot about the island. Maybe she knows he is there (it could have been her father's plan to get Desmond stuck there) and now, she set up a search team to find the island, since it moves. Now that the electromagnetic signature was found, they called her saying they found It: The Island. And it's not like there isn't a huge amount of evidence. It's a freaking research lab. It's supposed to be isolated. And they have artificially created or atleast altered animals. Sounds like a snow globe to me...
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Rememeber when there was a food drop? Didn't the doors shut, alams go off. Maybe te "shield" was turned off so thing scaould fall on the island.
I think there is some merit to that. There's lots of stories that begin with a very narrow focus. Gradually, you pull back and encompass more and more of the big picture. But eventually, the storyline tires out as the initial mystery is gone.okSorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
or a lot worse depending on the answersThis show is just going to get better....once all the answers start rolling in.
Dude, I'm sorry. I just don't understand what you're saying. It's barely even English to me.Is your back up a little bit with someone commenting on a show in a way you don't agree with?I guess you have it all figured out.derivitive? we still have no idea whoTF the others are?!?!?!Sorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.confrontation with another group is confrontation with another group. who/whatever they are.
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2. The "others" are obviously not a part of Dharma at all. They may in fact be "good guys" somehow trying to fix the magnetism issue.
Pretty close to how I feel about it.The most interesting storyline from the entire first two seasons has been, pretty much, wrapped up - for me anyway.I think there is some merit to that. There's lots of stories that begin with a very narrow focus. Gradually, you pull back and encompass more and more of the big picture. But eventually, the storyline tires out as the initial mystery is gone.okSorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
Guess you didn't get your Levin to English dictionary when we switched from old yeller.Dude, I'm sorry. I just don't understand what you're saying. It's barely even English to me.
Do you know what all the hatches are for?Do you know why the electromagnetism is being created?Pretty close to how I feel about it.The most interesting storyline from the entire first two seasons has been, pretty much, wrapped up - for me anyway.I think there is some merit to that. There's lots of stories that begin with a very narrow focus. Gradually, you pull back and encompass more and more of the big picture. But eventually, the storyline tires out as the initial mystery is gone.okSorry - but if you don't see it, you are blind.Where do they go from here? The mystery of the Hatches is pretty much solved. The only thing left is confrontation with the Others - which is, IMO, fairly derivative, and not very interesting.Fabulous episode - really tied a lot of stuff together.
You Lost freeks are gonna hate me for saying this, but they just jumped the shark.
No way they can top the last few weeks.You're not welcome here. Get out Levin.
Sorry guys, I sincerely doubt they can top what we saw the last 4-6 weeks. Still will be a good show - better than mnost everything on TV - buit I think we just saw the best episodes they can do.
They are now on the back side of the story's arc - a story the creators admitted has an end.
I predict two more seasons.
Not like I don;t think the show will be great, but th emost interesting thing to me was the mystery of the hatches.
The most interesting storyline in your opinion. Not even close in mine. I still want to know why all of them were brought there -- was it really just an accident and if so why have the writers spent so much time establishing the multiple connections so many of them have? That's why I don't buy the "Desmond just f'd up and that's why the plane crashed" theory. So much of what we've seen so far has been to establish that the island is used as an experiment so that leads me to believe the plane was deliberately crashed and these particular people were meant to be on that island. The question is why? And that's the big question that obviously can't be answered anytime soon. But I'm going to keep with the show until it's answered.The most interesting storyline from the entire first two seasons has been, pretty much, wrapped up - for me anyway.
Not really sure. Hard to respond and keep up with the thread, getting tired. If the course of 325 gets you off, then maybe there is something about the island, EM or who knows, that throws off navigation. Desmon said he was heading West all the time, but maybe he really wasn't because like Sayid said early in Season 1, his compass was off based on where the stars were.Not saying that the island can't be found no matter what, i.e. 4th dimension, but Henry knows enough about the island that normal navigation will be inaccurate and thus people who think they know will go somewhere wrong.If there's a "trick", then we've got to be talking about some 4th dimension or some type of supernatural stuff, right?Henry knew the trick (I believe he was being truthful) to getting off the island. Desmond didn't and thus never got away and neither did the first raft attempt. Remember they kept mentioning how big the island was, almost as if, they were really going away from it?I assume since there is a trick to get off the island, that there is probably a trick to getting to the island. The only way there is if an incident occurs and you are close enough (flight 815 and maybe Rousseau's ship?) or if you accidentally get there (Desmond and maybe Rousseau).Any thoughts on this from Henry to Michael: "Even so, you'll never be able to find this place".