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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (1 Viewer)
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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Do you think Kate got a boob job in the off season? Her fun bags seemed a bit larger than normal yesterday...One of those candy bars is gonna slip out of her pants too - giving her away - or causing some kind of trouble.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
I know this is painfully obvious, but now with Jin, Michael and Sawyer all taken prisoner, for lack of a better term, this is taking on an even more Lord of the flies quality. At the end of this episode the group of people chasing Jin had sticks and other such "natural" weapons. The Others have guns and home made explosives. This leads me to believe that Jin, Michael and Sawyer have stumbled upon the back section of the plane survivors. Who happen to be the more "savage" of the two bunches of survivors.In the previews for next week they showed here in Canada it showed Jin, Michael and Sawyer all being thrown into a dug out area with bamboo bars over it, the guy who played Adebisi in Oz was the one who forced them in. Good call on the "Do you smell carrots." I knew someone would have that answer here today. Especially good catch on the insignia on the shark's underbelly.And now we know that the numbers do at least one thing and that it doesn't look like they're being broadcast.I still think the area around the magnet looks charred and partially patched.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
IIRC, Locke asked him if the simulated sunlight was because he never left the hatch. He also asked him if there was another way out. Desmond didn't answer either question.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
Unfortunately, I betcha theGood cleav shot when she was in the air duct.Kate
won't have any screen caps of that. 
Pass_The_Peas
Footballguy
I forgot about that.
But I guess it doesn't really explain how the Black Rock got that far inland. I've gotta think about that one.
Glacier
The Other's that Jin, Mike, & Sawyer encounter, I believe, are from the other survivors from the tail section. Just because the first group is civilized it doesn't mean the second group has to be. When people are dropped into a life and death situation sometimes they go primitive and rely more on braun then brain.Where Jack used his brains and civility to lead people the black guy probably used his muscle. They probably have those holes dug out for people who did follow their rules (i.e. Michelle Rodriguez). Also, they may have already had some deadly encounters with the 'Others' therefore they are a little jumpy with any newcomers.Someone needs to get some screen shots of Desmond's walls and count up all the hash marks so that we can find approx how long he has been down there. And it did seem to me that he has been locked down there waiting for his replacement. I assume the code must be entered every 108 minutes or something bad happens. So he has been down there enterng those #'s every 108 minutes for years. I think he will be an ally as well.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
Having to enter the numbers every 108 minutes itself is enough to make you go crazy. You obviously don't have much else to do down there, but your sleep would be constantly getting interrupted, and there's been a lot of research on how much sleep people need in order to maintain their sanity.Does anyone remember if there was that "beeping" sound from the first episode this season when Desmond gets out of bed and goes straight to the computer.What I found rather odd was when he made Locke enter the numbers he asked him somthing to the effect of "Do you know how to work that box?" I mean, even 20+ years ago people called them computers.I was also thinking along the same lines as you, Porkins. That for some reason the survivors we've been shown have somehow been immune to the sickness and that the other survivors may have contracted it.
Buckychudd
Footballguy
Something to do with Walt and why the others wanted him???
Buckychudd
Footballguy
Watching the replay of last week's episode, I was struck by two things that Desmond said that may have been important."I'm training for a trip around the world""You've got to lift it up"Not sure of the significance of either yet.
Pass_The_Peas
Footballguy
SAWYER AND MICHAEL ARE TWINS?!?!??! HOW DID I MISS THAT?!?!?
You work with Desmond?
AllTheTeaInChina
Footballguy
When locke started talking to desmond in the hatch, Desmond asked "are you him"or something like that. Locke tried to bluff and pretend that he was. Desmond then asked the "riddle" as some sort of control code to ensure that Locke was the guy he was looking for. He wasn't.
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
IRRC, it was shortly after Locke stood up after saying that he was the guy Desmond was looking for. Desmond asked him "what did one snowman say to the other" Locke was silent and then said "I don't know" and at that point Desmond brought the rifle back up and asked Kate to tie him up.How the hell did I miss that? I watched that scene.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I think he asked Locke "who's that" after Jack yelled, not after he looked through the mirrors.Another thing I noticed while re-watching some of this (
Some had speculated they came across each other again, and Jack noticed him right away. Why wouldn't Desmond have recognized him?
They might not be immune, they just might have spent too little time near the source of the illness.Are we sure it was 108 minutes? I thought I remembered seeing 2-36 and then 2-37 before Locke hit enter and then it went back to 1-08? Did I see that wrong? I am going to have to rewatch this one, like I did last week because I did not see the shark logo either.
Desmond was definitely looking for his replacement when he asked Locke the question. I think if Kate hadn't been there, Desmond might not have gotten suspicious and asked him the password. He seemed relieved at first when Locke said he was him and then he started asking who was Kate.
I also think that those folks that grabbed Jin are the tail airplane folks, although Michelle Rodriguez could be alone and the rest of the LOTF folks could be a pack of the others. Like other people have said, they could just be trying to defend themselves against the Others. Remember, if it weren't for the Marshall having the case of guns, the survivors we know might have resorted to making weapons when Ethan attacked them.
I liked how this episode filled in some of the holes from last week, but other than the shark and a glimpse of more people, it didn't show us much.
Desmond also didn't get a good look at his face like Jack did before he recognized him. I thought the same thing, but as Jack came in, all Desmond saw was Jack bend down and get his gun ready and then he went into defense mode. Also, it was the "brotha" statement that clicked in Jack's mind. We never got to see Desmond's reaction to Jack saying "You" and acting like he recognized him.I think he asked Locke "who's that" after Jack yelled, not after he looked through the mirrors.Another thing I noticed while re-watching some of this (
Some had speculated they came across each other again, and Jack noticed him right away. Why wouldn't Desmond have recognized him?
Twilight
Footballguy
I would be willing to bet if they had looked over the Polar Bear corpse carefully, there would be an octagon hidden somewhere under the fur. That symbol was meant to be seen on the shark. I caught it realtime, and rewound to check. You saw blood clearly when Michael shot it. So it was a "real" shark. But how it was created is another matter. But I would bet it was created in the same way as the Polar Bear (The Comic book was a red herring to drive us slow-mo fans into a frenzy). Other notes.I think that we will find Desmond doesn't really know what is going on either. He was probably lied to by whomever convinced him to work in the shelter.I don't think the group on the other side of the island is all tail-sectioners. Maybe a couple, but Michelle Rodriguez was in "jail" with them. I would lean more toward survivors of other crashes, such as the drug plane. But I will agree that I don't necessarily think they are the "others"
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
I was down to 2-37 and 2-36 because it counts down. I'm guessing that when the "clock" reaches somehwere under 3-00 the "alert tone" sounds in order for whoever is down there to enter the numbers to reset it. The clock itself, IIRC, had 5 spaces on it, so when it was reset it went back to 108-00, 107-59, etc. I'm sure there'll be a screen cap of it popping up sometime today though, to verify for sure.
Buckychudd
Footballguy
Either way he didn't seem to recognize Jack even after he saw him up close.This could lend credence to the clone theory.I think he asked Locke "who's that" after Jack yelled, not after he looked through the mirrors.Another thing I noticed while re-watching some of this (
Some had speculated they came across each other again, and Jack noticed him right away. Why wouldn't Desmond have recognized him?
However, this could be explained by the fact that Jack viewed the meeting as a significant event in his life (i.e. this guy granted me a miracle), while Desmond doesn't really remember since the meeting had no significance to him (I was jogging and ran into some guy).
So my feeling is that Desmond had nothing to do with Sarah's recovery.
That shark thing has gotten me thinking. I think it is either:A) Part of the science experiment. Someone mentioned earlier about cancer resistance (not true), but in the Deep Blue Sea movie they studied them for an Alzhymer cure. I think I saw something on Discovery channel about it as well. I don't think this is the case, because why wouldn't they do the research at real lab, not on a deserted island. Plus the hatch sure doesn't look like a research center, more of an observatory after discovery of the illness.B) Another part of the security system. Not sure about the black cloud yet, and how controllable it is, but the shark with the insignia could be a way to keep people on the island. Kind of a plot to a B-Movie, but it seems plausible.Anyone else have any ideas on the shark?
Gotcha. That makes sense, but my little brain just remembered it looking like a 4 space normal clock. I used to have one that had those flipping/folding plastic tabs with the numbers on them. I also thought I remembered seeing it go 2-36 and then 2-37. I definitely will have to check it out again.
Buckychudd
Footballguy
I'm thinking the hatch/lab will turn out to be a biological weapons lab. Desmond may thought that they accidentally released the disease to the entire world, when it may have just been a localized event on the island. He seemed surprised that the world was still out there.
Twilight
Footballguy
Just thinking more about who all is on the island, past and present.1. The main survivors from 815.2. Unknown number of Tail Survivors from 815. 1 Verified (Rodriguez)3. Rousseau's group, presumed all dead but Rousseau4. Ethan's group. Rousseau has spent time with him/them (Scratches by Claire during missing time). Unknown relationship, with the son theory out there.5. The "Others" - Bad asses who light smoke signals when they go on the warpath. 4-5 Verified members, all on the short range boat.6. Lord of the Flies group now found - Maybe 2, 4, or 5 and not a new group, maybe not.7. Possible survivors from Black Rock (or their descendants) or the Drug Plane - Again, maybe incorporated into 4,5,or 68. Desmond and the Dharma Corp - Is he alone, or are there more Corporation guys somewhere on the isle.Any More I'm Missing? Regardless, this Island is getting pretty crowded, Isn't it?
Do you think that the boat that Sawyer mentioned as only a local boat, i.e. brought to the island as part of a bigger expedition as a get around the island boat, was a DHARMA boat and that the Others, who got the illness, captured from DHARMA folks that were trying to contain/observer the illness? Desmond sure seems like he is alone, but there had to have been more DHARMA folks there at one point to brand sharks, build the hatch, etc. It almost seems like maybe DHARMA pulled out and left the sharks/other security systems in place and left Desmond. He obviously has been waiting for his replacement based on his conversation with Locke and since he never attempted to contact anyone else, he must be alone. I would think that after capturing Kate and Locke, you would have seen him walkie-talkie his coworkers saying that there was a breach of the hatch, etc., if he had anyone else on the island.
Here you go Hulk, since you are new here!
Buckychudd
Footballguy
Some of these groups may be the same (4 & 5). Some of them may have merged (2 & 7).But I think you covered the greatest number of possible groups.
Paper Lions
Footballguy
I was thinking the same thing. Some of the groups you have listed are probably merged/the same.
We haven't seen all of the hatch yet, but what we have seen is not a lab. Other than the computer equipment, all we have seen is a kitchen, gun range/armory, food storage, living area, and a brand new state of the art Whirlpool Duet washer/dryer pair (couldn't resist!).I will concede, that we probably haven't seen a secret door, etc., and Desmond never answered Locke about another way out, so we don't know what other thing could be connected to this, but there is definitely not a lab of any sort in the hatch area we have seen so far.
I do think that there is more to the hatch because we haven't even seen the generator/whatever is powering the hatch and creating the magnetic force and it is obviously important enough that they chose to show Jack's key getting pulled by it.
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Buckychudd
Footballguy
I think it's a combination of 2 & 7.....just speculating, but I have a hard time the other plane survivors decended into anarchy so quickly without some "help".I think the Oz guy is going to be a survivor of the drug plane that took control of the tail section survivors.
