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[shuke]

The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years.  The computer system is too old.  He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly.  I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode.  Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray.  Couldn't be older than his late 30s.  I highly doubt he is dying his hair.  So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there. 

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

If you're gonna do this, I'm sure you can find worse.

I'm just doing this because I'm tired of BGP's condescending tone in here acting like he has all the answers, and if others' opinions or even the writers' intentions don't match with his analysis then they are "stupid". He didn't even watch the first ####ing season of the show.

 

[Jaysus]

There was some discussion last week about what the 4 survivors had in common. Now we know the only reason they asked for Hurley was to send a message back.

So do we speculate again on what Jack, Kate and Sawyer have in common?

But why did they specify Hurley to bring the message back? Seems like pretty much anyone could fulfill that role. Except Jin I guess.

they thought he could use the exercise?

 

[noneother]

It's probably in the thread somewhere, but was it ever determined why Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sawyer were the four the Others requested that Michael bring back with him?

Nope but it's clear The Others want Jack, Kate and Sawyer for some purpose. Hurley appeared to just be someone added to the list so he could be used to warn everyone to not pursue The Others again. Jack, Kate and Sawyer are the keys. We also know Locke is important to The Others as well (he was the reason Henry wanted to infiltrate the Losties' camp).

This bothered me, as they previously had Kate in their possesion, and Locke (who they supposedly want also), Jack, and Sawyer surrounded.Why not take them then?

I dunno. The only time we've heard that the Others wanted Locke was when Henry told Locke "I was coming for you". BUT, as I mentioned before, this was the same speech where he said that he didn't push the button (which was obviously false - because the hatch didn't implode) and planted the seed that the button is useless.. Locke's purpose to the Others was to doubt his faith, and not push the button. Gale got exactly what he needed from Locke.

Now the only question is why.

and as proven once again, Locke is an easy one to con... over and over again... to quote the Bunny "gull a BULL"

 

[kupcho1]

There was some discussion last week about what the 4 survivors had in common. Now we know the only reason they asked for Hurley was to send a message back.

So do we speculate again on what Jack, Kate and Sawyer have in common?

But why did they specify Hurley to bring the message back? Seems like pretty much anyone could fulfill that role. Except Jin I guess.

I'm sticking with my theory that Hurley was treated differently because he behaved differently. I did not see him get hit with a tranq, he was unarmed and basically only went at the last minute.

He may be one of the "good" ones, at least in the eyes of the others. Kate and Sawyer are clearly "bad" (murderers). The only hole here is Jack. How could he be classified as "not good"?

 

[noneother]

There was some discussion last week about what the 4 survivors had in common. Now we know the only reason they asked for Hurley was to send a message back.

So do we speculate again on what Jack, Kate and Sawyer have in common?

But why did they specify Hurley to bring the message back? Seems like pretty much anyone could fulfill that role. Except Jin I guess.

I'm sticking with my theory that Hurley was treated differently because he behaved differently. I did not see him get hit with a tranq, he was unarmed and basically only went at the last minute.

He may be one of the "good" ones, at least in the eyes of the others. Kate and Sawyer are clearly "bad" (murderers). The only hole here is Jack. How could he be classified as "not good"?

ego and pride....

 

[Sack-Religious]

Okay, I'm finally caught up with all the posting since last night.

Things that still need to be addressed.

What the heck that key did. Here are my thoughts. It was said that an electromagnetic charge was building up behind the concrete barrier for 108 minutes, and that entering the numbers released enough of it to prevent it from going critical. Okay, so, if you think about it like encefilitis (spelling)... basically, swelling builds up in someone's brain, and poking a little hole in the skull relieves this problem. My guess is that what happened was that after the timer ran down, the swelling was approaching critical mass... and turning the key destroyed the concrete containment. Which is probably what caused the hatch door to go flying off... kind of like the popping of a champagne cork. I suspect that the hatch, while being worse for wear, will still be there and that Eko, Locke, and Desmond all survive. This is reinforced by the leak that Desmond is a full time cast member next season. The more I think about it, the more I think that turning the key did nothing more than popping the top off of the containment of the EM field.

Second major question. So, these scientist discover this electromagnetic anomoly, and contain it to study it. Every 108 minutes a little of the EM build up must be released. So, why not automate a system to do it? Why the heck have someone input a random string of numbers to release it? That doesn't make any sense to me.

And finally... a giant green talking condor. WTF?!?!?!

4 toes is pretty out there too.

I think I'm back to thinking that the island is Atlantis. It is also quite possible that it is in some sort of extradimensional area, outside of the real world. Otherwise, it would be easy to find, easy to get to, and easy to leave.

Bottom line, I had high expectations for this episode, and I feel like it lived up to them.

I like the champagne cork theory. It fits.One your automated code suggestion. What if the hatch was dual purpose. Release the EM and be a psychological experiment, with the endgame being the keyturn?

While I don't recall it talking last year, the giant bird made an appearance last year, as well.

The foot reminded me of the Colossus of ancient Greek mythology. Given other references to Greek mythology this isn't too big a stretch.

I've also given though to the Atlantis theory. It's about as plausible as anything else out there right now.

 

[D-BO]

There was some discussion last week about what the 4 survivors had in common. Now we know the only reason they asked for Hurley was to send a message back.

So do we speculate again on what Jack, Kate and Sawyer have in common?

But why did they specify Hurley to bring the message back? Seems like pretty much anyone could fulfill that role. Except Jin I guess.

they thought he could use the exercise?

He's an other, as was Libby.

 

[shuke]

There was some discussion last week about what the 4 survivors had in common. Now we know the only reason they asked for Hurley was to send a message back.

So do we speculate again on what Jack, Kate and Sawyer have in common?

But why did they specify Hurley to bring the message back? Seems like pretty much anyone could fulfill that role. Except Jin I guess.

He's a pacifist and a pushover.

 

[ScottNorwood]

The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years. The computer system is too old. He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly. I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode. Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray. Couldn't be older than his late 30s. I highly doubt he is dying his hair. So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there.

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

If you're gonna do this, I'm sure you can find worse.

I'm just doing this because I'm tired of BGP's condescending tone in here acting like he has all the answers, and if others' opinions or even the writers' intentions don't match with his analysis then they are "stupid". He didn't even watch the first ####ing season of the show.

I'm pretty sure that no one who has posted in this thread has made less sense than BGP, which is saying a lot.

 

[Brewdude]

Don't know if this was mentioned.

What was up with that Snowman joke that both Locke & Kelvin asked Desmond? When Kelvin asked it, he preceded it with "Are you him?" , or something of that nature. Locke asked it as he approached Desmond in the beginning.

Desmond asked the same of Locke in the first episode this season. Locke's failure to answer is why Desmond knew Locke wasn't "him."

 

[Brewdude]

Case in point, I argued endlessly that the plane crashed sometime between 2007 and 2011.

Clearly, I was 100% wrong.

At least I don't have to dig up those links to what must've been prop errors anymore.

I was going to post a note to you on that. When I heard September, 2004, I knew somewhere out there a tear was welling up in some big green guy's eye.

Didn't LOST premier on September 22, 2004? I know it was in Sept '04, but don't recall the date.

 

[Sack-Religious]

Don't know if this was mentioned.

What was up with that Snowman joke that both Locke & Kelvin asked Desmond?  When Kelvin asked it, he preceded it with "Are you him?" , or something of that nature.  Locke asked it as he approached Desmond in the beginning.

Desmond asked the same of Locke in the first episode this season. Locke's failure to answer is why Desmond knew Locke wasn't "him."

I'm pretty sure it was the DHARMA "code word" for the replacements coming to the hatch.

 

[Dash]

Case in point, I argued endlessly that the plane crashed sometime between 2007 and 2011.

Clearly, I was 100% wrong.

At least I don't have to dig up those links to what must've been prop errors anymore.

I was going to post a note to you on that. When I heard September, 2004, I knew somewhere out there a tear was welling up in some big green guy's eye.

Didn't LOST premier on September 22, 2004? I know it was in Sept '04, but don't recall the date.

Yes, that was the date.

 

[caabeel]

Which is probably what caused the hatch door to go flying off... kind of like the popping of a champagne cork.

I like the champagne cork theory. It fits.

Are you talking about the swan hatch? Because that hatch door was blown off well before the key was turned when Locke used the dynamite.

 

[(HULK)]

14 Nov 2005?

At least I think it's a 5 [ ].  It's definately 200X.

More evidence mounts!Great find!

Hulk, isn't this bad evidence for you?Jack is already married/getting divorced and I don't think that his plane trip to Australia was that much after this flashback. We don't know how long it was before his Dad botched the operation and went down under, but as I recall it seemed from Jack's meeting with Anna before the flight that him getting divorced/separated was pretty fresh. Check the transcript on that conversation. If that is the case, then the flight was pretty close to present time.

My best guess was the crash was 2007-09ish. Most people assume 2004. This date would indicate that the crash didn't take place in 2004, but sometime later. As for how much later, who knows? At least long enough for Jack to get a divorce.As for the different name of the hospital on the xray, the whole time I was under the impression that the italians had brought the x-ray's with them. I felt like that meeting was the first time Jack/Jack's dad met with the italians, and they were reviewing the possibility of what the was a longshot surgery. I had the impression that this was the last stop in a long line of doctors that the italians were seeing, and that Jack was their last hope since other doctors had probably said no to them.

Hence, the xrays could've been brought with them from another hospital, perhaps the first or second place they went to. So, no, they definitely don't rule anything out just because the name of the hospital is different.

Between the date on these xrays, the calendar in the recent Kate episode, and the poster in the Michael episode the evidence is mounting this season. It seems like every other week we get a new hint to the true timeline.

And people holding up that Sox quote like it means anything... please. The comment stood out to Sawyer... why do you think it would've stood out if the Sox hadn't recently won the series? I feel that it was a phrase Jack and his dad shared growing up, and they never stopped saying it despite them winning. Hence, it struck Sawyer as extra odd, and enough to connect Jack and his dad.

from top to bottom.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Can we infer anything from the fact that the survivors are still in 2004, but all this Hanso online stuff is going on in 2006?

 

[Brewdude]

It's probably in the thread somewhere, but was it ever determined why Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sawyer were the four the Others requested that Michael bring back with him?

Nope but it's clear The Others want Jack, Kate and Sawyer for some purpose. Hurley appeared to just be someone added to the list so he could be used to warn everyone to not pursue The Others again. Jack, Kate and Sawyer are the keys. We also know Locke is important to The Others as well (he was the reason Henry wanted to infiltrate the Losties' camp).

This bothered me, as they previously had Kate in their possesion, and Locke (who they supposedly want also), Jack, and Sawyer surrounded.Why not take them then?

Maybe they didn't want them at the time. They were just giving a warning, but now that the group has shown they'll ignore the warning, the others are trying to "decapitate" them. Jack, Sawyer, and Kate have been very active with the group plans. The piece that puzzles me is why not Locke? Unless Fake Henry (Fenry?) knows that Locke is already "broken."

 

[PC Load Letter]

14 Nov 2005?

At least I think it's a 5 [ ].  It's definately 200X.

More evidence mounts!Great find!

Hulk, isn't this bad evidence for you?Jack is already married/getting divorced and I don't think that his plane trip to Australia was that much after this flashback. We don't know how long it was before his Dad botched the operation and went down under, but as I recall it seemed from Jack's meeting with Anna before the flight that him getting divorced/separated was pretty fresh. Check the transcript on that conversation. If that is the case, then the flight was pretty close to present time.

My best guess was the crash was 2007-09ish. Most people assume 2004. This date would indicate that the crash didn't take place in 2004, but sometime later. As for how much later, who knows? At least long enough for Jack to get a divorce.As for the different name of the hospital on the xray, the whole time I was under the impression that the italians had brought the x-ray's with them. I felt like that meeting was the first time Jack/Jack's dad met with the italians, and they were reviewing the possibility of what the was a longshot surgery. I had the impression that this was the last stop in a long line of doctors that the italians were seeing, and that Jack was their last hope since other doctors had probably said no to them.

Hence, the xrays could've been brought with them from another hospital, perhaps the first or second place they went to. So, no, they definitely don't rule anything out just because the name of the hospital is different.

Between the date on these xrays, the calendar in the recent Kate episode, and the poster in the Michael episode the evidence is mounting this season. It seems like every other week we get a new hint to the true timeline.

And people holding up that Sox quote like it means anything... please. The comment stood out to Sawyer... why do you think it would've stood out if the Sox hadn't recently won the series? I feel that it was a phrase Jack and his dad shared growing up, and they never stopped saying it despite them winning. Hence, it struck Sawyer as extra odd, and enough to connect Jack and his dad.

from top to bottom.

I gotta give you credit for sticking to your guns though.

 

[Brewdude]

Which is probably what caused the hatch door to go flying off... kind of like the popping of a champagne cork.

I like the champagne cork theory. It fits.

Are you talking about the swan hatch? Because that hatch door was blown off well before the key was turned when Locke used the dynamite.

The door was laying on top of the hatch though. Eko saw it when he crawled up the ladder. Something pushed it way up into the air toward the beach.

 

[aardball44]

I still think the Swan hatch may still have imploded when Desmond turned the key.

Remember that it was mainly built with concrete. Implosion probably wouldn't happen.

Most concrete, especially reinforced concrete used in construction has metal rebar in it to make it stronger. If the magnet is THAT powerful, it could, in theory, tear the metal out of the concrete causing the hatch to lose structural integrity and there for collapse onto itself.

I concede until episode 1 of season 3

The fine folks at Widmore were responsible for reinforcing the concrete in the DHARMA stations. This info is contained in Gary Troup's "book", Bad Twin.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

in the pearl hatch, what was on the table?  looked like dirt and cigarettes?

I noticed that too, and it was a little too obvious.Have we met anyone on the show that smokes that could have been down there?

Marlboro Man from the X-Files.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years.  The computer system is too old.  He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly.  I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode.  Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray.  Couldn't be older than his late 30s.  I highly doubt he is dying his hair.  So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there. 

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

If you're gonna do this, I'm sure you can find worse.

I'm just doing this because I'm tired of BGP's condescending tone in here acting like he has all the answers, and if others' opinions or even the writers' intentions don't match with his analysis then they are "stupid". He didn't even watch the first ####ing season of the show.

Hell, I thought he said a long time ago that he didn't even watch television.

 

[caabeel]

Which is probably what caused the hatch door to go flying off... kind of like the popping of a champagne cork.

I like the champagne cork theory. It fits.

Are you talking about the swan hatch? Because that hatch door was blown off well before the key was turned when Locke used the dynamite.

The door was laying on top of the hatch though. Eko saw it when he crawled up the ladder. Something pushed it way up into the air toward the beach.

But only if there was an EXplosion right?

 

[(HULK)]

Which is probably what caused the hatch door to go flying off... kind of like the popping of a champagne cork.

I like the champagne cork theory. It fits.

Are you talking about the swan hatch? Because that hatch door was blown off well before the key was turned when Locke used the dynamite.

That could've been the Pearl hatch door or the Swan hatch door.The hatch door was still sitting atop the hatch, if a bunch of EM energy shot up and out the hatch, it could've propelled it up.

As for the Pearl, the invisible map made it look like the big ? in the center was possibly previously connected to the Swan via a tunnel, with the concrete barriers now blocking it off. So, if the backside of the barrier around the EM field was dropped, it could've gone down that tunnel and up and out of the Pearl hatch.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Ok, I'm 2 episodes behind on Tivo. Just watched "?" last night. My tivo cut off the very end.

It cut off when Jack was giving Libby the heroin. Hurley walks in and says "Can she hear me? Can I talk to her?" Jack says "Yes"...then my recording was over.

Can someone detail what happened then? They talked and she died, I guess, but what substance?

TIA

 

[Capella]

The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years.  The computer system is too old.  He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly.  I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode.  Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray.  Couldn't be older than his late 30s.  I highly doubt he is dying his hair.  So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there. 

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

If you're gonna do this, I'm sure you can find worse.

I'm just doing this because I'm tired of BGP's condescending tone in here acting like he has all the answers, and if others' opinions or even the writers' intentions don't match with his analysis then they are "stupid". He didn't even watch the first ####ing season of the show.

Hell, I thought he said a long time ago that he didn't even watch television.

He's said that many times.

 

[stonegossard]

Which is probably what caused the hatch door to go flying off... kind of like the popping of a champagne cork.

I like the champagne cork theory. It fits.

Are you talking about the swan hatch? Because that hatch door was blown off well before the key was turned when Locke used the dynamite.

The door was laying on top of the hatch though. Eko saw it when he crawled up the ladder. Something pushed it way up into the air toward the beach.

But only if there was an EXplosion right?

Again, while it makes sense that the hatch door would have been from the Swan Hatch, there is no guarantee that it was. A very large explosion in the Swan Hatch combined with Charlie's nonchalant attitude about it and the whereabouts of Locke/Eko/Desmond afterwards don't seem to sit right with me.

 

[Brewdude]

Which is probably what caused the hatch door to go flying off... kind of like the popping of a champagne cork.

I like the champagne cork theory. It fits.

Are you talking about the swan hatch? Because that hatch door was blown off well before the key was turned when Locke used the dynamite.

The door was laying on top of the hatch though. Eko saw it when he crawled up the ladder. Something pushed it way up into the air toward the beach.

But only if there was an EXplosion right?

Or a powerful magnetic expulsion.

 

[E-Z Glider]

The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years.  The computer system is too old.  He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly.  I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode.  Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray.  Couldn't be older than his late 30s.  I highly doubt he is dying his hair.  So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there. 

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

If you're gonna do this, I'm sure you can find worse.

I'm just doing this because I'm tired of BGP's condescending tone in here acting like he has all the answers, and if others' opinions or even the writers' intentions don't match with his analysis then they are "stupid". He didn't even watch the first ####ing season of the show.

at all of his declarations starting with "obviously" or "clearly".

 

[kupcho1]

The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years.  The computer system is too old.  He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly.  I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode.  Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray.  Couldn't be older than his late 30s.  I highly doubt he is dying his hair.  So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there. 

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

If you're gonna do this, I'm sure you can find worse.

I'm just doing this because I'm tired of BGP's condescending tone in here acting like he has all the answers, and if others' opinions or even the writers' intentions don't match with his analysis then they are "stupid". He didn't even watch the first ####ing season of the show.

at all of his declarations starting with "obviously" or "clearly".

Flowing mane should be enough for self-Thomas A treatment here, shouldn't it?

 

[Dash]

Ok, I'm 2 episodes behind on Tivo. Just watched "?" last night. My tivo cut off the very end.

It cut off when Jack was giving Libby the heroin. Hurley walks in and says "Can she hear me? Can I talk to her?" Jack says "Yes"...then my recording was over.

Can someone detail what happened then? They talked and she died, I guess, but what substance?

TIA

She said Michael's name and died. Nothing else.

[We see Jack injecting Libby with the heroin, as Hurley looks on.]

HURLEY: Can, can I talk to her?

JACK: Sure. [he exits]

HURLEY [trying not to cry]: Hey, it's Hurley. Hugo. I'm sorry I forgot the blankets. I'm sorry I forgot the blankets. [she opens her eyes] Libby?

[Libby struggles to say something. Jack enters.]

LIBBY: Michael.

JACK: Michael. He's okay. He made it, Libby. It's okay. It's alright.

[Libby gasps for air and dies. Jack closes her eyelids. Hurley cries. Kate cries and Sawyer comforts her. We hear the timer alarm start sounding. We see Eko and Locke walking through the jungle. We see Michael standing by himself in the armory. We see a close up of the prompt at the computer monitor.]

 

[E-Z Glider]

Last nights show has been dissected pretty well here... the one thing that hasnt been mentioned that is puzzling to me is when they said that they got more than they bargained for from Walt. If true, why are they willing to let him go?

 

[inca911]

How do we know that Libby was married to the Widmore guy?

I agree with the EM disruption causing the plane's problems and the crash. It wasn't magnetically pulled from the sky.

Perhaps the "sickness" will now return since the EM emissions are uncontained.

Containing the EM emissions could have been necessary to keep the island undetectable, or to contain the "sickness". Certainly the large EM burst has been seen by the snowbound monitors.

If you sail straight West but your compass is being pulled towards another untrue magnetic pole, you will actually sail in a large circle. Imagine a boat tied to a string which is attached to a "North Pole" on the island. North will continue to be the island's center and West will continue to be a tangent to the center point, causing you to sail in circles. This doesn't fit with being able to sail out on a bearing of 325, unless that's a GPS-based system vs. a compass system.

The old boat was part of their deception. Certainly they have other transportation and giving that boat up doesn't hurt them at all.

 

[Rhino]

I'm still trying to decide whether Henry and his crew are WITH the Hanso/Dharma folks or are against them.

Henry said they were the good guys...so who are the bad guys?

The way I looked at that is that Dharma are the bad guys (playing all the mind games and psychological experiments) and the Others really are the good guys. The Others have figured out Dharma's game and are refusing to play buy it.The only thing that doesn't fit is Kelvin and Desmond refering to them as the "Hostiles". Really the Others haven't exhibited any real hostile behavior yet - they only fight when provoked. Sure, they go around kidnapping people - but we don't know why yet, and I have a feeling eventually we're going to find out that the kidnapped people are better off living with the Others than with the survivors.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Last nights show has been dissected pretty well here... the one thing that hasnt been mentioned that is puzzling to me is when they said that they got more than they bargained for from Walt. If true, why are they willing to let him go?

"More than they bargained for" could mean unanticipated negatives as well as positives. Maybe they wanted to get rid of Walt.

 

[jestertj]

Containing the EM emissions could have been necessary to keep the island undetectable, or to contain the "sickness". Certainly the large EM burst has been seen by the snowbound monitors.

This thought crossed my mind as well.

 

[Fishnic]

If the whole snowglobe thing is somewhat accurate then the Others have no way of leaving the island either.

comic book snowglobe pic

 

[ScottNorwood]

Could the russians be very close to the island? Remember the polar bear?

 

[aardball44]

but for the most part we aren't figuring out ****.

I couldn't agree more and I believe this what makes those of us like "me and Smoo" go after reading through this thread at times.

You see that washer and dryer plow into the magnet last night, though? How awesomely cool was that?

Maybe that's happened before...explaining why the Season Two washer and dryer were newer models than some of the other equipment in the hatch.

 

[miphin]

Some other job postings from the Hanso website:

Personal Assistant

to Thomas Werner Mittelwerk.

LOCATION: NEW YORK, USA/COPENHAGEN, DENMARK

The successful applicant will work in close proximity with the Chief Technologist and Operating Officer of the Hanso Foundation, providing support in both his personal and professional endeavors. The applicant must have at least three years of experience as either a primary or secondary assistant to a high-level professional corporate officer and must have a Ph.D. or advanced scientific degree in any one of the following fields: cryptography, comparative religion, molecular biology, Lacanian psychology, fluid mechanics, turbulence and computation -- or a minimum of 5 years in a recognized think-tank or government sponsored research facility. Fluency in Danish is essential, as well as French and German with some working knowledge of multiple asian languages.

Organ Courier

The successful applicant will combine not only a working knowledge of tissue-transplantation procedures and the latest pharmaceutical agents involved in this growing field, but also an ability for high-speed travel, diplomacy and an extensive knowledge of transit restrictions and regulations as well as traffic laws around the world. Fluency in at least five languages including French, German, Russian and Chinese is crucial - as is a willingness to achieve fluency in sub-saharan regional and tribal dialects. Knowledge of martial arts, self-defense and extensive weapons training is essential, but applicants willing to receive training in these areas will receive due consideration.

Just thought they were interesting. Particularily the Organ Courier...martial arts, self defense and extensive weapons training is essential??Link

 

[noneother]

Just thought they were interesting.

Link

possibly these are descriptions of some of the Others?

 

[aardball44]

There was some discussion last week about what the 4 survivors had in common. Now we know the only reason they asked for Hurley was to send a message back.

So do we speculate again on what Jack, Kate and Sawyer have in common?

All three taste like chicken.

 

[BGP]

Lets look at the credible threat levels of the known Others. We do this by looking at their personal accomplishments / successes.

Zeke:

+ Led the group that took Walt.

+ Blew up the losties' makeshift boat.

+ Personally captured Michael in the open field (with a sling no less! Nice shot!)

+ Caught Kate

+ Was outmanned by Jack's group but used torches to fake Jack out and thus successfully took the guns from Jack's group as well as forced them to return from where they came.

Cleo:

NONE

Ethan:

+ Infiltrated the fuselage group for some time before being exposed.

+ Captured Claire.

Alex:

+ Freed Claire from the clutches of the Others, allowing her to return to the losties.

Other of the tailies' group

+ Infiltrated the tailies for some time.

+ I believe he killed one of them in the nite (the guy in the pit) but I'm not sure.

Henry:

NONE

Sometimes leaders are written to be weak and incompetant. But in THIS storyline, it has been emphasized that the leader of the others is a "great man". He is feared by fellow Others. Zeke was afraid of him, and Zeke is portrayed as being extremely competant and credible! Zeke has never even failed once!

If the writers seriously have chosen Henry to be the leader, it just makes no sense. His character is not consistent in any way with the storyline we've been through. Henry has no accomplishments whatsoever, and even if you believe he somehow tweaked the relationship between Jack and Locke a little bit, that is nowhere on the credibility level of Zeke.

The storyline falls apart and the show becomes a joke.

 

[The Noid]

Finally caught up in the thread, took me all morning. Every time I clicked to the "last" page, a new last page was already there.

Back with random thoughts after I eat lunch.

 

[aardball44]

Finally caught up in the thread, took me all morning. Every time I clicked to the "last" page, a new last page was already there.

Back with random thoughts after I eat lunch.

Heh. I caught up at the very same spot. The morning's Lost chatter must be slowing down.

 

[mozzy84]

here is a pic of kate getting molested by an other, by far the most important event last night. What do you guys make of it?

http://i4.tinypic.com/10o32wx.jpg

 

[aardball44]

Locke and Ecko...where have they gone? What are they up to? They've had their requisite fight, now they must join forces to confront the island's big secret.

And Ecko has to die.

:(

 

[PC Load Letter]

here is a pic of kate getting molested by an other, by far the most important event last night. What do you guys make of it?

http://i4.tinypic.com/10o32wx.jpg

I can make a hat, or broach, or a pterodactyl...

 

[doctor Gunks]

Lets look at the credible threat levels of the known Others. We do this by looking at their personal accomplishments / successes.

Zeke:

+ Led the group that took Walt.

+ Blew up the losties' makeshift boat.

+ Personally captured Michael in the open field (with a sling no less! Nice shot!)

+ Caught Kate

+ Was outmanned by Jack's group but used torches to fake Jack out and thus successfully took the guns from Jack's group as well as forced them to return from where they came.

Cleo:

NONE

Ethan:

+ Infiltrated the fuselage group for some time before being exposed.

+ Captured Claire.

Alex:

+ Freed Claire from the clutches of the Others, allowing her to return to the losties.

Other of the tailies' group

+ Infiltrated the tailies for some time.

+ I believe he killed one of them in the nite (the guy in the pit) but I'm not sure.

Henry:

NONE

Sometimes leaders are written to be weak and incompetant. But in THIS storyline, it has been emphasized that the leader of the others is a "great man". He is feared by fellow Others. Zeke was afraid of him, and Zeke is portrayed as being extremely competant and credible! Zeke has never even failed once!

If the writers seriously have chosen Henry to be the leader, it just makes no sense. His character is not consistent in any way with the storyline we've been through. Henry has no accomplishments whatsoever, and even if you believe he somehow tweaked the relationship between Jack and Locke a little bit, that is nowhere on the credibility level of Zeke.

The storyline falls apart and the show becomes a joke.

What if the super-boss is that Widmore guy?

 

[Tusken Raider]

Whew! Lots of posting since last night (went to bed afterwards.) Some thoughts...

1) The Bird. I don't recall it making a previous appearance, but my initial reaction was that the bird's main purpose was to let us & the characters know Michael's gun wasn't loaded (remember, Michael fired repeatedly at it, but no gunfire.) It was then Mike knew Jack was on to him.

2) Jack's glance at Kate. Jack never (to my knowledge) let Kate, Sawyer, & Hurley know Sayid's advantage. I think his nod to her was a "relax, I've got it covered" reassurance. I think we see Sayid (& maybe Jin & Sun), tail them & the Others to their real camp.

3) The foot statue. My first thought, as has already been posted, was the Colossus of Rhodes. The foot looked as to be next to water, possibly a harbor, as if a giant statue had once straddled its entrance. Maybe just my college mythology days giving me a flashback here, but it was my first reaction.

One thing that disappointed me was the non appearance of Smokey/Monster/Cerberus, but I guess it fits into the theme of it laying low most recently. Great finale, with many mysteries addressed, and lots of new ones introduced. It's got me hooked for another season