Glad the show is back on... but I'm really not liking the direction of the Ward and Hydra thing.
In Winter Soldier and in Agents early on, Hydra was a worthy opponent for SHIELD. They were smart, subtle, an elite intelligence agency that managed to stay hidden within their opponent for decades. They were well-meaning people who thought the ruthless acts they committed were necessary for the good of the world. That made them scary. And cool.
And what are they becoming now on Agents of Shield? A bunch of stereotyped bikers, thugs and anarchists brawling in basements? Can you imagine Hydra having ever accomplished what they nearly did if they had recruited like that?
If Tyler Durden.. oops, I meant, Ward... wants to put his own group together like that, I wish they'd drop the Hydra name and just them make them their own new group. They are nothing like Hydra.
It's been too long, but i dont remember Hydra being well meaning and caring about the good of the world. Weren't they basically another form of the Nazis?
Well, the 1940s were, yes. They were a science division of the Nazis, led by Red Skull who took the super soldier formula which takes what is in you and makes it even more so. Steve Rogers was noble and loyal and selfless and became more so. Red Skull was a fanatical zealot and became more so and Hydra reflected it.
But I was talking more about the Winter Soldier movie-era Hydra. Remember the stuff from Robert Redford's character? He wasn't a Nazi zealot, he was a patriotic American in his own mind, who believed a hard line needed to be taken against bad guys after he saw how diplomacy failed in the hostage situation involving his daughter, where a young Nick Fury ignored orders and went and freed them anyway.
Making the 3 helicarriers to wipe out opposition obviously wasn't a good act, but they felt the killings were a worthwhile cost to get the world to a place it would actually be safe. I'm saying their motivations weren't entirely selfish desire for power and world domination like the 1940s Hydra.
And both are a bit different than Ward's bikerfest Fight Club.