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*** Official Marvels Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (1 Viewer)

Good episode this week with Lash. It seems this show just has to go deeper and deeper in how insidious Hydra is/was. It cannot just have a story be a pleasant side story. Not sure I like that.

 
I liked the episode as well.

I have one minor question.

Was it lazy writing or was it a hint of something that may come when Jemma asked Will the obvious question of "how did you know the planet was habitable before going though the portal?" and Will said "that was a pay grade above his".....?
Well, the name that Will thought fit the shadowy figure best was "Death"... which was also the Hebrew word on the scroll that Fitz found, and again adorning the wall of the castle where they had the portal control device.

Which could just be a big coincidence, or could indicate someone has returned from it before, or at least was able to communicate back. With the steam punk portal control device that should have been possible, but then the Hebrew scroll was ancient by comparison so that wouldn't explain their choice of the word unless some time travel was involved too.
Is this "death" the same as Thanos's death?

 
Good episode this week with Lash. It seems this show just has to go deeper and deeper in how insidious Hydra is/was. It cannot just have a story be a pleasant side story. Not sure I like that.
i kind of do like it!
The less Ward the better!
No kidding. It is like the story that should have ended a season ago, but because they had no other good idea on where to go, they kept it alive.

 
Great episode. They seemed intent on negating my complaints about Hydra getting turned into Ward's Basement Fight Club.

Hydra's back boys!

 
Great episode. They seemed intent on negating my complaints about Hydra getting turned into Ward's Basement Fight Club.

Hydra's back boys!
Hydra as an entity in the MCU makes no sense if it's just about Ward's personal vendetta. There always had to be something more at play. I like where things are headed.

For those who like Ward there has always been the talk of whether he can be redeemed. I think we have gone way past that point. His only logical end on this show would have to be getting killed. Brett Dalton seems like a pretty good guy. I hope he's invested wisely.

 
Great episode. They seemed intent on negating my complaints about Hydra getting turned into Ward's Basement Fight Club.

Hydra's back boys!
Hydra as an entity in the MCU makes no sense if it's just about Ward's personal vendetta. There always had to be something more at play. I like where things are headed.

For those who like Ward there has always been the talk of whether he can be redeemed. I think we have gone way past that point. His only logical end on this show would have to be getting killed. Brett Dalton seems like a pretty good guy. I hope he's invested wisely.
Or dying saving Skye/Daisy. But yeah, he pretty much has to die.

 
So any theories about who this evil guy is?
The alien?

The human in charge of Hydra now is Gideon Malik. He was one of the Hydra people on the World Security Council talking to Fury during the Avengers when they were trying to get him to nuke New York.

 
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Psychopav said:
So any theories about who this evil guy is?
The alien?

The human in charge of Hydra now is Gideon Malik. He was one of the Hydra people on the World Security Council talking to Fury during the Avengers when they were trying to get him to nuke New York.
Oh snap. It was bothering me that I knew we had seen Malik somewhere. After about my fifth watching I remember thinking it was weird that in Winter Soldier that the Dharma guy from Lost was now on the council instead of the previous guy.

 
Its hard for me to take the telekinesis guy seriously...keep waiting for him to say: in the words of his uncle, Allez Cuisine!

 
Ward won't go away :(

I was expecting the "Death" character to be a lot more powerful than he was.

I am really enjoying the melting metal guy ("hey I am bullet proof!")

 
Ward won't go away :(

I was expecting the "Death" character to be a lot more powerful than he was.

I am really enjoying the melting metal guy ("hey I am bullet proof!")
The "Death" character may be more powerful than he seemed to be. I'm guessing he's Ward now.

 
Any Marvel universe info on the planet? There was speculation before but a lot more info in this episode. 9 cities or something like that, seemed like a very specific detail.

Even though the actor is still with us, at least the Ward character is gone now. He sounded pretty pie in the sky crazy stupid again searching for his higher purpose. Nice to see Coulson didnt back off and was willing to risk missing the portal to put Ward down for good. For a moment it seemed like it was going to be the predictable leave Ward behind and he teams up with the new big bad.

Curious what the overall goal is with the Lash / Andrew character.

 
Could "Death" possibly not be an inhuman character, but perhaps our first introduction of the Skrulls? He managed to shapeshift into different people who were stranded on the planet (Will and then Ward). As the rock was Kree in origin, perhaps the cities used to be Kree which were destroyed during a Kree/Skrull war?

 
bigbottom said:
Its hard for me to take the telekinesis guy seriously...keep waiting for him to say: in the words of his uncle, Allez Cuisine!
I was trying to figure out where I'd seen that guy!
First time we saw him, I rolled my eyes and thought the same thing. Supposedly a very trained martial artist, but to me, he'll always be the shill for a few of Food Network's shows.

 
bigbottom said:
Its hard for me to take the telekinesis guy seriously...keep waiting for him to say: in the words of his uncle, Allez Cuisine!
I was trying to figure out where I'd seen that guy!
First time we saw him, I rolled my eyes and thought the same thing. Supposedly a very trained martial artist, but to me, he'll always be the shill for a few of Food Network's shows.
I think there is a typo

i think you meant to say he'll always be the regal elegant chairman of Kitchen Stadium. I will admit our American knock off lacked some of the class of the original, but that was surely not the chairman's fault. I blame Emiril

 
Biggest problem with the Chairman is that he uses his powers in really dumb ways. Levitating a gun to shoot at the agents doesn't seem to be the most effective use of his abilities.

For whatever reason, this is the comic book show that I've kept following this year, despite thinking both The Flash and Arrow are more successful shows in general. I don't think the show has really worked outside the last half of season 1 and the first half of season 2. I'm also apparently in the minority in that I think that keeping Ward as an unstable wild card was one of the parts of the show that worked. I would have probably made him recurring, but I thought they could have kept doing a lot with him as a guy who was sometimes in SHIELD's way and other times an uneasy ally (I never thought he should be redeemed).

Not really feeling him as Wardlemort, though.

 
Biggest problem with the Chairman is that he uses his powers in really dumb ways. Levitating a gun to shoot at the agents doesn't seem to be the most effective use of his abilities.

For whatever reason, this is the comic book show that I've kept following this year, despite thinking both The Flash and Arrow are more successful shows in general. I don't think the show has really worked outside the last half of season 1 and the first half of season 2. I'm also apparently in the minority in that I think that keeping Ward as an unstable wild card was one of the parts of the show that worked. I would have probably made him recurring, but I thought they could have kept doing a lot with him as a guy who was sometimes in SHIELD's way and other times an uneasy ally (I never thought he should be redeemed).

Not really feeling him as Wardlemort, though.
i actually was hopeful they had the stones to really make him dead

i mean i like him, but that would have been cool

 
Buckna said:
Any Marvel universe info on the planet? There was speculation before but a lot more info in this episode. 9 cities or something like that, seemed like a very specific detail.
while watching that scene I heard my wife mumble "nine cities.....nine realms?"

Probably just a coincidence,

 
Peak said:
Could "Death" possibly not be an inhuman character, but perhaps our first introduction of the Skrulls? He managed to shapeshift into different people who were stranded on the planet (Will and then Ward). As the rock was Kree in origin, perhaps the cities used to be Kree which were destroyed during a Kree/Skrull war?
Fitz pulled the bandage off of Death-posing-as-Will's leg and it looked like it would on a decayed corpse. Flesh pretty much gone on one side to where you could see the bone, and what flesh there still was looked dead.

I like the thought behind the idea, but I don't know why a Krull would make it look that way. One could just make it look normal, couldn't it?

So I'm thinking he really is animating and inhabiting the existing dead body. Maybe he can repair the body over time going forward as Ward. But not expecting anyone to return for Will he didn't have reason to and just jumped in the body when he realized Fitz was leading them there.

There was also the bright light / sunrise / whatever that Will saw when Simmons got off planet, to be explained.

 
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Biggest problem with the Chairman is that he uses his powers in really dumb ways. Levitating a gun to shoot at the agents doesn't seem to be the most effective use of his abilities.
When he levitated the wrench in the interrogation room with Simmons, I was thinking "can't he just pick up the wrench?"
i keep waiting for him to levitate a Granny Smith and take a bite...
Levitate the sheet over the secret ingredient to reveal it for all to see.

 
Someone mentioned The Hive earlier for Death. Didn't know a lot about him, but here's a good article making the case.

ETA: Weird, URL doesn't seem to work as a link, it keeps stripping off the site name and putting the forum in its place. Anyway, here is the link minus the http:// part.

cool_breeze.kinja.com/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-the-walking-dead-1747074643

 
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So how did he get off the planet?

I assume the gateway stayed open a moment after Colson and Fitz got through?

And they had to bug out...rather than keep guard until it closed because May threw missiles down their chimney?

 
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Just got caught up. Was it just me or did the death guy seem a lot scarier and more powerful in the episodes where Gemma was on the planet? This guy was basically the fighting equal of Fitz and didn't seem to have any special powers other than inhabiting bodies. Seemed like he could do more (at least make the wind all swirly on command) in the Gemma episodes.

 
Just got caught up. Was it just me or did the death guy seem a lot scarier and more powerful in the episodes where Gemma was on the planet? This guy was basically the fighting equal of Fitz and didn't seem to have any special powers other than inhabiting bodies. Seemed like he could do more (at least make the wind all swirly on command) in the Gemma episodes.
I thought the same thing. Then I remembered something Simmons said back on earth when she was describing him. She said that he felt like something that great power, but had lost it. I took that to mean that its power had diminished being on a basically barren planet for all those years. (insinuating that it would regain its strength when/if it got back to earth)

 
Just got caught up. Was it just me or did the death guy seem a lot scarier and more powerful in the episodes where Gemma was on the planet? This guy was basically the fighting equal of Fitz and didn't seem to have any special powers other than inhabiting bodies. Seemed like he could do more (at least make the wind all swirly on command) in the Gemma episodes.
I thought the same thing. Then I remembered something Simmons said back on earth when she was describing him. She said that he felt like something that great power, but had lost it. I took that to mean that its power had diminished being on a basically barren planet for all those years. (insinuating that it would regain its strength when/if it got back to earth)
Might need to feed on the living or something along those lines. When the planet is otherwise barren, it lost power. just speculation of course.

 
Just got caught up. Was it just me or did the death guy seem a lot scarier and more powerful in the episodes where Gemma was on the planet? This guy was basically the fighting equal of Fitz and didn't seem to have any special powers other than inhabiting bodies. Seemed like he could do more (at least make the wind all swirly on command) in the Gemma episodes.
I thought the same thing. Then I remembered something Simmons said back on earth when she was describing him. She said that he felt like something that great power, but had lost it. I took that to mean that its power had diminished being on a basically barren planet for all those years. (insinuating that it would regain its strength when/if it got back to earth)
Might need to feed on the living or something along those lines. When the planet is otherwise barren, it lost power. just speculation of course.
Galactus?

 
Anyone watching the second season of Agent Carter?  My daughter and wife like it, but I think it is a slight step down from Season 1 but still some what fun to watch.

I still can't believe how much different Brigette Regan (Dottie) looks from her Legend of the Seeker days.  She looks like she lost 25 pounds.

 
Liking this season of Carter, its more light hearted since they moved on past her grieving for Cap. Think they went too heavy on the love interests angle though, should have left that for another season IMO.

Brigette Regan, yum. She was smoking as Kahlan in Legend of the Seeker. Barely recognized her in the first episode she was in during the first season as well, she's rail thin now.

 
Also, the head of ABC programming "resigned" recently. Wondering what that means for shows like Shield or Agent Carter which aren't blockbusters in the ratings and probably have high production costs. Gotta think the Marvel/ABC/Disney thing means the shows are safe though.

Edit: Promo for second half of season 3 started airing this week. Show comes back on March 8th!

 
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Edit: Promo for second half of season 3 started airing this week. Show comes back on March 8th!
Is my link not showing up for the promo?  I tried to post it a couple of posts before yours.

It seems like embedded media sometimes works and sometimes does not.

 

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