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[Dan Lambskin]

That was the other armored character I was thinking about earlier. 

I’d love to see them launch Doom with his own solo movie. 

I’d be down with this.  Would rather see him than some sort of cosmic space villain 

 

[Chaka]

Do you mean the Wakandan aircraft that came through the yellow portals opened by Dr. Strange and company?

Maybe. It was that scene.

Those were some big ### spaceships. Earth owes Wakanda a huge debt they put it all on the line twice, and for half of them it was one continuous massive battle.

 

[Chaka]

Alternate theory for the post-credit blacksmith sound:   Dr. Doom forging his armor.

That would be awesome.

 

[Insein]

A minor thing but I did appreciate that there was no chance to have the opening applause from the audience. No title till about 10-15 mins in. Just straight to business. People did clap later which annoyed me but what are you gonna do.

 

[Chaka]

What was the deal with Stark and Captain America discussing going back to the 70s in hushed tones like it was some sensitive subject? Stark said something like "I know you know how I know" that the tesseract and Pym were both in the same place at the same time. Does it have something to do with how Stark's parents were killed?

Yeah, I'm trying to remember why IM knew that as well. Too soon for his parents being killed but I don't remember anything else that would suggest why they would know.

Something from Agent Carter, maybe?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

That would be awesome.

Although it would probably mean we’d get some fantastic four and they’re just awful boring characters 

 

[Mario Kart]

Although it would probably mean we’d get some fantastic four and they’re just awful boring characters 

No they aren't. Plus, Chris Evans could reprise his role and stay in the MCU.

 

[GregR]

Ok, I knew the security guard where Antman comes out of the van looked familiar, but I didn't recognize him.  Ken Jeong.

 

[Chaka]

Developing: Rat saves the universe!

 

[SFBayDuck]

Ok, I knew the security guard where Antman comes out of the van looked familiar, but I didn't recognize him.  Ken Jeong.

I started laughing as soon as he appeared on screen, anticipating some Ken Jeong schtick. But that didn’t happen. Is this just like how actors used to do quick cameos on Star Trek movies back in the day (Christian Slater comes to mind)?

 

[GregR]

I started laughing as soon as he appeared on screen, anticipating some Ken Jeong schtick. But that didn’t happen. Is this just like how actors used to do quick cameos on Star Trek movies back in the day (Christian Slater comes to mind)?

Hey has ties to the directors.  There were other easter eggs in this and in Infinity War (like the much publicized Blue Man bit in The Collector's cage).

 

[Insein]

Okay Black Widow's death blew my mind. We knew either her or Hawkeye would have to die when they got sent to Vorimir but it was still deeply shocking/troubling.

Vision is dead. That's it...wow. When Thor's hammer moved I thought it was gonna be Vision showing up but of course he couldn't because the Mind Stone was in the gauntlet. 

That Cap got the Hammer was maybe the pinnacle of the film. The audience, all of us, lost our minds when that happened.

Speaking of Vision, Scarlett Witch dismantling Thanos was up there as top moment of the film. That was straight up bad ##$.

I would say Loki is dead too but you don't gift him The Tesseract and just let it go for the rest of the film by accident. He'll be back.

Wanted to see Hulk smash in the final battle, I think he belonged with Thor, Cap and Iron Man going toe-to-toewith Thanos. No...he deserved to stand with them. That felt like a misstep regardless his bum arm.

Hopefully Phase 4 has some Hulk stuff. Like if they could work on planet hulk and some She Hulk. That's be cool.

 

[H Jass]

Still can’t believe Matthew Berry got a cameo too.

 

[Chaka]

Hopefully Phase 4 has some Hulk stuff. Like if they could work on planet hulk and some She Hulk. That's be cool.

I heard that She Hulk is in the plans.

Thor Ragnarok pulled quite a bit from Planet Hulk, including Korg & Miek (them playing Fortnite was hilarious). 

A minor thing but I did appreciate that there was no chance to have the opening applause from the audience. No title till about 10-15 mins in. Just straight to business. People did clap later which annoyed me but what are you gonna do.

I'm typically with you but the collective experience with the audience really enhanced the experience of this film for me. 

 

[Mario Kart]

I find it funny that Marvel did right for Natalie Portman but zero mention of Edward Norton. He must have pissed them off something fierce.

 

[Chaka]

I find it funny that Marvel did right for Natalie Portman but zero mention of Edward Norton. He must have pissed them off something fierce.

What could they have done for Norton? They have a new Hulk. A credit? Does he really warrant one?

 

[Chaka]

Okay, so is no one surprised or bothered that Vision is dead?

 

[Chaka]

And if anyone asked me to make a list of least likely to die characters before I saw the film Black Widow would have been very close to the top. Admit it, you thought Hawkeye was going to die on that scene.

 

[Capella]

I find it funny that Marvel did right for Natalie Portman but zero mention of Edward Norton. He must have pissed them off something fierce.

 Whaaaaaaaaat?

 

[Capella]

Happy telling Stark’s daughter he’ll get her all the cheeseburgers she wants really hit me in the heart.  

 

[NewlyRetired]

Okay, so is no one surprised or bothered that Vision is dead?

I was surprised only because they went out of their way to say in the last movie that he was made up of much more than the stone, that he had Tony, Jarvis, Bruce and Ultron all inside him.  I thought that was a setup to bring him back.

 

[NewlyRetired]

For those wondering about Loki, Hiddlestone has recently signed a long term deal with Disney and will be staring in a Disney+ series as Loki.

 

[GregR]

I was surprised only because they went out of their way to say in the last movie that he was made up of much more than the stone, that he had Tony, Jarvis, Bruce and Ultron all inside him.  I thought that was a setup to bring him back.

I didn't take that to be intended as a means to bring him back. I took that to be justifying he can exist without the stone. Otherwise the audience probably would not accept the premise of removing it and him not dying outright.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I loved the movie so much so my nits are microscopic.

Peggy and Jarvis were too young looking in 1970 and it felt like Scot's daughter was too old compared to what she should have been 7 years from Antman and Wasp.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The gay guy in Steve's therapy group was co-director Joe Russo.

 

[NewlyRetired]

And if anyone asked me to make a list of least likely to die characters before I saw the film Black Widow would have been very close to the top. Admit it, you thought Hawkeye was going to die on that scene.

Speaking of Haweye, similar to Hiddlestone, Renner has signed a deal with Disney in which he will star as Hawkeye in his own Disney+ series, in which he will pass the torch to Kate Bishop.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Others have mentioned how cool the "women of Marvel" scene was and I loved it too.   

Although now thinking back to it, it is sad Black Widow was not around for it, given her prominence in the MCU.

 

[Insein]

And if anyone asked me to make a list of least likely to die characters before I saw the film Black Widow would have been very close to the top. Admit it, you thought Hawkeye was going to die on that scene.

I thought because it was so obvious Hawkeye would sacrifice himself that it had to be BW.

 

[Chaka]

I was surprised only because they went out of their way to say in the last movie that he was made up of much more than the stone, that he had Tony, Jarvis, Bruce and Ultron all inside him.  I thought that was a setup to bring him back.

Exactly. I thought he was going to be one of the franchise "heavies" going forward.

 

[Chaka]

Speaking of Haweye, similar to Hiddlestone, Renner has signed a deal with Disney in which he will star as Hawkeye in his own Disney+ series, in which he will pass the torch to Kate Bishop.

During the scene on Vorimir I started to suspect Hawkeye would live because 1) the family, opening scene etc. It just made more sense for him to live even if no one really likes tiny Jeremy Renner & 2) to pass the Hawkeye mantle.

 

[Chaka]

I thought because it was so obvious Hawkeye would sacrifice himself that it had to be BW.

Mmmmmmmm...not really for me. It seemed equally obvious that either would equally be willing to sacrifice themselves for "the greater good" but more significantly each other.

I thought the descent into murderous Ronin tilted in BW's surviving favor.

But family won out and that also makes sense.

 

[Chaka]

Still, BW dying was the biggest surprise and shock of the film for me.

ETA: Seriously, that was out of left field.

 

[GregR]

I was surprised only because they went out of their way to say in the last movie that he was made up of much more than the stone, that he had Tony, Jarvis, Bruce and Ultron all inside him.  I thought that was a setup to bring him back.

Exactly. I thought he was going to be one of the franchise "heavies" going forward.

Vision was probably by far the most impotent character in the MCU in terms of what he actually did.

He was a heavy hitter in Ultron. But other than that, all he did was get his ### kicked again and again.

He gets sent into the Earth by Wanda in Civil War, and shoots down Rhodey by accident. Gets stabbed by the one child of Thanos and has to be saved by Wanda, Cap, Falcon and Widow. And then it happens again in the fight in Wakanda.  And then he gets his mind ripped out by Thanos and dies.

So ineffective overall.

 

[Chaka]

Vision was probably by far the most impotent character in the MCU in terms of what he actually did.

He was a heavy hitter in Ultron. But other than that, all he did was get his ### kicked again and again.

He gets sent into the Earth by Wanda in Civil War, and shoots down Rhodey by accident. Gets stabbed by the one child of Thanos and has to be saved by Wanda, Cap, Falcon and Widow. And then it happens again in the fight in Wakanda.  And then he gets his mind ripped out by Thanos and dies.

So ineffective overall.

Stop. Just, don't.

Yes MCU <> comics but Vision is unquestionably a bad ###. Getting your hat handed to you is a right of passage and one of the things that for me is frustrating about the treatment of Captain Marvel, she has yet to be in a position of legitimate threat.

But Vision is conceptually cool and bad #$$ and throwing him away is a loss for the MCU and also a disservice to Jarvis.

 

[Tecumseh]

Definitely thought it dragged early on, and thought IW was better overall, but what a great ending. One issue that kept recurring was people touching the stones without consequence. Major plot point in GotG was that noone except Thanos or the blue villain could handle touching an Infinity Stone, then the Collector's slave grabbed the stone and blew herself and the whole place up. Everybody was passing the stones around in this one. My other eye roll moment was the "girl power" scene. Even my daughter let out an exasperated "oh, geez" at that.

ETA: And Capt. Marvel's haircut sucks.

 

[GregR]

Definitely thought it dragged early on, and thought IW was better overall, but what a great ending. One issue that kept recurring was people touching the stones without consequence. Major plot point in GotG was that noone except Thanos or the blue villain could handle touching an Infinity Stone, then the Collector's slave grabbed the stone and blew herself and the whole place up. Everybody was passing the stones around in this one. My other eye roll moment was the "girl power" scene. Even my daughter let out an exasperated "oh, geez" at that.

ETA: And Capt. Marvel's haircut sucks.

When do you mean, about the stones being handled?

Power stone was in the little metal orb, never touched except by Thanos.

Time stone - did Hulk ever actually hold it?  Strange in IW and Sorc Supreme in Endgame it hovers, it doesn't touch them. I don't recall if Hulk handles it directly.   

Mind stone is in the scepter, never touched.

Space stone is in the tesseract so not touched, and the tesseract is only touched with Iron Man's glove.

Reality stone is in the ether inside the extraction device Rocket handled.

Only stone I recall handled for sure is the Soul stone.   Given the unique requirement of acquiring it, I'm ok with suspension of disbelief it isn't like the others in this regard.

 

[hagmania]

I'm typically with you but the collective experience with the audience really enhanced the experience of this film for me. 

I am going to remember the whole theater going bananas over Cap & the Hammer for a long, long time.

 

[hagmania]

I'm going this morning just so I can see Cap wield the thunder again.

 

[H Jass]

I'm going this morning just so I can see Cap wield the thunder again.

Definitely my favorite moment in a theater ever. Place went insane.

Gotta say too, I had Cap pegged as 100% dying sacrifice-style in this due to Chris Evans being done contract wise. The way the handled his ending was so so so much better. Loved that choice.

(Would’ve been great to see him ##### slap Red Skull one more time at Vormir as a distant second, tho)

 

[NewlyRetired]

No exaggeration, probably my favorite movie of all time.  Could have cried 5 times if I wanted to let it go.  Just unbelievable.  I think this will win an Academy Award similar to the end of LOTR as a lifetime achievement.  Can't believe it lived up to and exceeded hype and expectations.

The media played a big part in completely embarrassing the academy voters to wake the #### up and fix their egregious error of basically ignoring of the first two LOTR movies.  I hope that happens again.

If for nothing else, the Russo's have to be recognized for this achievement. 

 

[NewlyRetired]

I am going to remember the whole theater going bananas over Cap & the Hammer for a long, long time.

I honestly don't understand why anyone wants to go to an opening night movie event with a crowd and not want to see their emotional reactions.  It is part of the movie going experience for me.  

I was really happy that people kept their phones off too in my theater and paid attention.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Some idiot teenager in a theater close to the one I went too screamed "I've got a gun" in the middle of the movie.  They had to clear the whole theater out and the kid seems to have got away before the cops could catch him.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Still, BW dying was the biggest surprise and shock of the film for me.

ETA: Seriously, that was out of left field.

At the end of Infinity War, right after the first snap, we see Thanos inside the Soul Stone talking to the young Gamora. The Russo brothers confirmed that’s what was happening, and it’s one of the big features of the Soul Stone in the comics (people living inside the stone).

I don’t know if Marvel will go this route, but presumably 2023 Black Widow is inside the 2016 Soul Stone. 

 

[Anarchy99]

I always struggle with the rules and expected outcomes of time travel. 

Theoretically, wouldn’t getting any of the Infinity Stones in the past be enough to alter the future as Thanos wouldn’t have all the stones at the same time and therefore that would have prevented the ending of Infinity Wars?

Similarly, if they can go back in time, couldn’t they go back multiple times to keep everyone alive? Just go back earlier in time to change a future bad outcome.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

LOVED the movie. 

My only confusion was when Loki took the tesserect. They never showed how they got it back. They just went back to 1979 to get more “time travel juice,” and the next thing you know, they got all six infinity stones. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STONE LOKI STOLE????

They went back to 1970s to get the tesseract (and the time travel juice- Tony says we know both were in the same place).

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Ok, I knew the security guard where Antman comes out of the van looked familiar, but I didn't recognize him.  Ken Jeong.

I’m pretty sure one of the guards escorting Loki out of the building when they lose the tesserect was fantasy football guru Matthew Berry as well. At least it sure looked like him.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Others have mentioned how cool the "women of Marvel" scene was and I loved it too.   

Although now thinking back to it, it is sad Black Widow was not around for it, given her prominence in the MCU.

Honestly I thought that  scene was a bit contrived but understand why they did it.

 

[AcerFC]

I honestly don't understand why anyone wants to go to an opening night movie event with a crowd and not want to see their emotional reactions.  It is part of the movie going experience for me.  

I was really happy that people kept their phones off too in my theater and paid attention.

Because you don’t want anything spoiled. I don’t need the idiots behind me yelling when cap gets the hammer. I would gladly spend $50 to stream it and any movie at my home so I don’t ever have to see a movie with other people ever again

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I am going to remember the whole theater going bananas over Cap & the Hammer for a long, long time.

I literally had chills go up my spine during that scene and broke out into a huge smile - especially when Thor said “I knew it”.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I always struggle with the rules and expected outcomes of time travel. 

Theoretically, wouldn’t getting any of the Infinity Stones in the past be enough to alter the future as Thanos wouldn’t have all the stones at the same time and therefore that would have prevented the ending of Infinity Wars?

Similarly, if they can go back in time, couldn’t they go back multiple times to keep everyone alive? Just go back earlier in time to change a future bad outcome.

Are you seriously basing your understanding of time travel on Back to the Future?