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SD will get at best a 4th round compensatory pick based on Turner being a backup in terms of production in 2007. The performance in 07 and the salary received dictates the picks status from what I understand.
It's performance with the new team that matters, not performance with the old team.But it's mostly about salary with the new team. Performance is apparently a distant second.
In this scenario I do not see where Cleveland meets the 1st and 3rd round requirement.Is Calvin Johnson worth Turner, a 1st, and a 2nd? Hell no.Rookie fever. Catch it !
Actually Clevland is getting hosed on that deal in my opinion. It would be more feasible to see Turner, 1st 2nd rounder from this year and a 1st next year to make this deal fair. Turner hasnt proven anything. While he looks good in limited time there is no gaurantee he holds up as a full time back.
And the Chargers are getting hosed in that deal in my opinion.If both teams are getting hosed, it's very unlikely that a deal like this will get done.
I don't neccessarily see it that way. The stakes are high for the Chargers next year; after what has transpired the last couple of months (not to mention their great regular season), I would say it's Super Bowl or bust. I would think you have to look at Turner as a great insurance policy for next year and not worry about what kind of return you can get on him. The Chargers are at a different place then say the Niners, where they couldn't afford not to get some type of return on a talent like him. I have to think Smith is too smart to let Turner go without a very significant return.
Right. It's not like the Chargers won't get any value out of Turner by keeping him for a year. They'll get 16 games out of him. That's value.Not that they won't listen to offers if somebody wants to give up a first-rounder for him; but they're not desperate to get rid of him. They're certainly not going to give up draft picks to get rid of him.
Yeah Right
If that's the deal, I'm in favor of it. (First time I've seen a Turner trade rumor I can say that about.)
Sure, but then where does Lynch go?
That was my next thought. I'm sure they have more pressing needs, but the Giants come to mind. .. Denver?ETA: Backing up a step, it's reasonable to think Houston might grab A(D)P at 1.10.
In a RBBC scenario
No thanks.
I think Hacksaw started this rumor, saw it on the chargers homer message board
Whoever Trader Jake is, he pegged this deal exactly yesterday in the "Who are the Packers gonna pick at 1.16?" thread.
To the Chargers.
To the Bills, AD wont get passed Cleveland let alone MinnesotaTo the Chargers.
Is Hacksaw reliable? I've never heard of him.
NoIs Hacksaw reliable? I've never heard of him.
I had seen rumors of a swap of 1st round picks OR the 2nd round pick, but not both. I suppose anything is possible, but I see NO way TT does this. The most likely scenario for TT is the swap of firsts as he then will still have a 1st and 2nd. That puts the value at a late 2nd.
Knowing the way Ted Thompson covets draft selects I also stated that I didn't think this trade would occur...and as a Packer fan I hope this deal does NOT take place. RB's can be acquired much cheaper than this.
From Chula Vista to the Canadian Rockies.from San Bernadino to Santa Barbara.......REACTION !!bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Hacksaw is somewhat less reliable than PFT.Fodasme69 said:Is Hacksaw reliable? I've never heard of him.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
I think PFT has some good contacts with player agents. They often announce signings before anyone else (and don't get that kind of stuff wrong very often).But when speculating about who will make the team or be cut or other stuff that is likely to be known by NFL clubs rather than by player agents, they whiff an awful lot.
uwgb96 said:nathanbalboa said:
Why? The Packers need a RB unless you want to go in with what you have. Everyone wants them to draft Lynch if he is there. Why not take Turner at the spot and still have a 1st round pick. I understand its pick 30 but Im sure that everyone would agree to that Turner would be the first or second back taken in the draft this year. They get a RB and still keep a first rounder. Makes a lot of sense to me.trader jake said:dsrm said:
Well then you answered the question a little bit. Trading him now gets a pick now and waiting for the compensatory pick takes time. Somewhat iof a sidebar, NE knows that you should ALWAYS take a 2nd two years from now rather than a 3rd now, but teams make that dumb mistake over and over againMaurile Tremblay said:
Why? The Packers need a RB unless you want to go in with what you have. Everyone wants them to draft Lynch if he is there. Why not take Turner at the spot and still have a 1st round pick. I understand its pick 30 but Im sure that everyone would agree to that Turner would be the first or second back taken in the draft this year. They get a RB and still keep a first rounder. Makes a lot of sense to me.trader jake said:dsrm said:Knowing the way Ted Thompson covets draft selects I also stated that I didn't think this trade would occur...and as a Packer fan I hope this deal does NOT take place. RB's can be acquired much cheaper than this.
Turner + 1st rounder >>>>>>>Lynch + second rounderThis makes sense if you assume that Lynch and Turner are equal talents, but If you believe Lynch is a more talented back then it doesn't.I'd also add that while Lynch to GB makes sense, TT is so secretive it's hard to imagine anyone being able to know what he really wants to do. The fact that everyone thinks TT will take Lynch makes me think there's no way it will happen. I wouldn't be suprised if he's got his eye on a RB he grab in round 3-6 that he thinks is capable of being a starting back in their offense (a la Denver Broncos).
I realize that's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. You sure do post it a lot, too. Do you realize that you probably post "PFT" more often than anyone else on this board? If you want to reduce spam..........
If it was 5 years ago, I'd disagree but he had a bad falling out with the team after (correctly I might add) criticizing what they were doing on his radio show, causing them to can him as their play-by-play announcer. This is overwhelmingly likely just speculation based upon rumors and nothing else.Hacksaw is somewhat less reliable than PFT.Fodasme69 said:Is Hacksaw reliable? I've never heard of him.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
It also doesn't factor in which player will cost more. Turner might look to break the bank compared to what Lynch will receive at slot #16.
