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***Official MLB 2013 Season Thread (5 Viewers)

Pedroia with a 7/$100M deal beginning in 2015-2021 season. I think up to age 37. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/232/dustin-pedroia

Maybe a year or two longer than I would be super comfortable with but I understand that it is the way baseball tends to work. It is better than the rumored $20M per season that was going around last week. For $14M per season, I am fine with the deal for Pedroia in a money standpoint. Locks up a franchise player for Boston for his career at a relatively affordable price.

With 2B you always worry about longevity so this might hurt 5 years down the road but it is not a horrible deal IMO.
Wonder how this sets the market for Cano
You would probably have to think his agent is disappointed. Obviously a Boston homer but if Cano wanted 25M per season, I don't see how he is worth 10M+ more per season than Pedroia. I know the numbers and Pedroia doesn't compare in most stats as it is basically 15-70 versus 30-100+ but even using an eyeball test, 10M+ more for Cano than Pedoria I think would be tough to justify. Even saying that someone will probably offer him that if he doesn't resign with NY.

In comparison to Pedroia's new contract with Cano I would say a 7/140 would be palatable as fan if your team signed him. Different situations though as Pedroia wasn't hitting FA and Cano will be.
Cano is going to get what he wants IMO. 200M without a problem. Several big money teams struggling this year and teams have more money than ever to do something about it. Very limited options on great players to spend it on. Besides that, it's the Yankees. They're going to at least try to win the bidding war on their own superstar I would think.Oh, and the Dodgers still seem to be playing with monopoly money.
The Dodgers are playing some combination of Ellis, Schumaker and Punto at 2b. They'll certainly be in the bidding. In fact, I think for the first time in a long time the Yankees might not be able to bid high enough for a player they really want.
The Dodgers just spent $32M on 26 year old Cuban SS Alexander Guerrero. The plan is to convert him to a 2B perhaps as early as this season.
Say it with me. Seven, B as in Billion, Dollars. Seven Billion Dollars. That's before they sell a single ticket or receive any money from the national tv deal or MLBAM.

If the Cuban is being moved off SS because of range, they can move him to 3B instead to replace Uribe or whomever.

 
Soriano to Yanks. Cubs pay more than half
Olney reported Cubs paying bulk for a lower tier pitching prospect. Doesn't compute to me.
Say the Yanks are eating $6M of the $24Mish left on his contract. Can you see the Cubs getting something better from someone else?
I understand whats going on, but I look at it this way. Assuming the Cubs aren't getting much back, is Soriano worth $6 million extra to play for you (assuming you take the other $18 million or so as a sunk cost)? I'd say he is worth $6 million especially just looking at their roster and they don't have a lot of money on the books. Not familiar with their system and if Soriano is blocking a young player but beyond that, $6 million and a throwaway doesn't seem worth it for Soriano.

 
Heyman: Soriano is on way to NY or already there. Trade to NY only awaits commissioner approval. #cubs #yankees

7:21am - 26 Jul 13

there's short list #cubs will choose from. tommy kahnle & corey black, 2 pitchers, are on. may be a 3rd player, too. #sori

7:56am - 26 Jul 13

 
Sports radio (ESPN) has been unbearable the last couple of days.

They want to talk about an MVP getting 65 games in his prime, fine. Even then, he's on a terrible team and was essentially been busted a year ago. The only thing that's changed is that he won't get to finish out this useless season. He's going to start 2014 being exactly what we expected him to be. A great player that's a known PED user getting paid a ton by a bad team that can't afford it when the fans don't like the guy anymore. But don't even want to talk about the good player involved in this.

Instead, people seem more interested a banged up 37 YO that hasn't been worth a #### in 3 years. Who gives a crap. I still don't understand why it matters if A-Rod will get suspended.

Nice work, Selig. Most sports fans have no clue what's going on in the division races, but they all get an earful of this crap.

 
Soriano to Yanks. Cubs pay more than half
Olney reported Cubs paying bulk for a lower tier pitching prospect. Doesn't compute to me.
Say the Yanks are eating $6M of the $24Mish left on his contract. Can you see the Cubs getting something better from someone else?
I understand whats going on, but I look at it this way. Assuming the Cubs aren't getting much back, is Soriano worth $6 million extra to play for you (assuming you take the other $18 million or so as a sunk cost)? I'd say he is worth $6 million especially just looking at their roster and they don't have a lot of money on the books. Not familiar with their system and if Soriano is blocking a young player but beyond that, $6 million and a throwaway doesn't seem worth it for Soriano.
That $6 mil will be better spent when the team is ready to compete. Soriano is useless on this team.

 
Soriano to Yanks. Cubs pay more than half
Olney reported Cubs paying bulk for a lower tier pitching prospect. Doesn't compute to me.
Say the Yanks are eating $6M of the $24Mish left on his contract. Can you see the Cubs getting something better from someone else?
I understand whats going on, but I look at it this way. Assuming the Cubs aren't getting much back, is Soriano worth $6 million extra to play for you (assuming you take the other $18 million or so as a sunk cost)? I'd say he is worth $6 million especially just looking at their roster and they don't have a lot of money on the books. Not familiar with their system and if Soriano is blocking a young player but beyond that, $6 million and a throwaway doesn't seem worth it for Soriano.
That $6 mil will be better spent when the team is ready to compete. Soriano is useless on this team.
Cubs fans have been complaining about Soriano for five years and proposing every unrealistic option for shipping him out of town. When it finally happens, then they complain that the return wasn't good enough.

He's never been worth his contract but he's been a decent contributor at times and seems to have conducted himself as a professional and good teammate. If the Cubs had surrounded him with better talent and won more games, he wouldn't have been nearly as much of a lightning rod for fan dissatisfaction.

 
Soriano to Yanks. Cubs pay more than half
Olney reported Cubs paying bulk for a lower tier pitching prospect. Doesn't compute to me.
Say the Yanks are eating $6M of the $24Mish left on his contract. Can you see the Cubs getting something better from someone else?
I understand whats going on, but I look at it this way. Assuming the Cubs aren't getting much back, is Soriano worth $6 million extra to play for you (assuming you take the other $18 million or so as a sunk cost)? I'd say he is worth $6 million especially just looking at their roster and they don't have a lot of money on the books. Not familiar with their system and if Soriano is blocking a young player but beyond that, $6 million and a throwaway doesn't seem worth it for Soriano.
That $6 mil will be better spent when the team is ready to compete. Soriano is useless on this team.
Cubs fans have been complaining about Soriano for five years and proposing every unrealistic option for shipping him out of town. When it finally happens, then they complain that the return wasn't good enough.

He's never been worth his contract but he's been a decent contributor at times and seems to have conducted himself as a professional and good teammate. If the Cubs had surrounded him with better talent and won more games, he wouldn't have been nearly as much of a lightning rod for fan dissatisfaction.
Not a Cubs fan. Hope that helps. $6 million just never seemed like a big deal to a team like the Cubs. Heck, I didn't understand the Michael Young trade. The Rangers are paying $10 of his $16 million dollars and they got back 2 relievers who don't look like much. I think I'd rather just keep him at that price.

And I guess to see who got the better sides of the deal. Ask Yankees or Phillies fans if they mind paying $6 million for Soriano or Young respectively and I think you'll find a lot of happy fans.

 
sporthenry said:
Eephus said:
MAC_32 said:
Soriano to Yanks. Cubs pay more than half
Olney reported Cubs paying bulk for a lower tier pitching prospect. Doesn't compute to me.
Say the Yanks are eating $6M of the $24Mish left on his contract. Can you see the Cubs getting something better from someone else?
I understand whats going on, but I look at it this way. Assuming the Cubs aren't getting much back, is Soriano worth $6 million extra to play for you (assuming you take the other $18 million or so as a sunk cost)? I'd say he is worth $6 million especially just looking at their roster and they don't have a lot of money on the books. Not familiar with their system and if Soriano is blocking a young player but beyond that, $6 million and a throwaway doesn't seem worth it for Soriano.
That $6 mil will be better spent when the team is ready to compete. Soriano is useless on this team.
Cubs fans have been complaining about Soriano for five years and proposing every unrealistic option for shipping him out of town. When it finally happens, then they complain that the return wasn't good enough.

He's never been worth his contract but he's been a decent contributor at times and seems to have conducted himself as a professional and good teammate. If the Cubs had surrounded him with better talent and won more games, he wouldn't have been nearly as much of a lightning rod for fan dissatisfaction.
Not a Cubs fan. Hope that helps. $6 million just never seemed like a big deal to a team like the Cubs. Heck, I didn't understand the Michael Young trade. The Rangers are paying $10 of his $16 million dollars and they got back 2 relievers who don't look like much. I think I'd rather just keep him at that price. And I guess to see who got the better sides of the deal. Ask Yankees or Phillies fans if they mind paying $6 million for Soriano or Young respectively and I think you'll find a lot of happy fans.
From the Cubs perspective, there's an opportunity cost of keeping Soriano in the everyday lineup. It's better in the long run to see if Junior Lake can handle the job. Maybe give some ABs to Julio Borbon or Sappelt to see if either is a worth keeping as a 4th OF. Maybe give Brett Jackson a chance to rack up some more strikeouts. Soriano won't be around if and when the Cubs window opens, Soler or Jae Hoon Ha might be.

 
sporthenry said:
Eephus said:
MAC_32 said:
I understand whats going on, but I look at it this way. Assuming the Cubs aren't getting much back, is Soriano worth $6 million extra to play for you (assuming you take the other $18 million or so as a sunk cost)? I'd say he is worth $6 million especially just looking at their roster and they don't have a lot of money on the books. Not familiar with their system and if Soriano is blocking a young player but beyond that, $6 million and a throwaway doesn't seem worth it for Soriano.
That $6 mil will be better spent when the team is ready to compete. Soriano is useless on this team.
Cubs fans have been complaining about Soriano for five years and proposing every unrealistic option for shipping him out of town. When it finally happens, then they complain that the return wasn't good enough.

He's never been worth his contract but he's been a decent contributor at times and seems to have conducted himself as a professional and good teammate. If the Cubs had surrounded him with better talent and won more games, he wouldn't have been nearly as much of a lightning rod for fan dissatisfaction.
Not a Cubs fan. Hope that helps. $6 million just never seemed like a big deal to a team like the Cubs. Heck, I didn't understand the Michael Young trade. The Rangers are paying $10 of his $16 million dollars and they got back 2 relievers who don't look like much. I think I'd rather just keep him at that price. And I guess to see who got the better sides of the deal. Ask Yankees or Phillies fans if they mind paying $6 million for Soriano or Young respectively and I think you'll find a lot of happy fans.
From the Cubs perspective, there's an opportunity cost of keeping Soriano in the everyday lineup. It's better in the long run to see if Junior Lake can handle the job. Maybe give some ABs to Julio Borbon or Sappelt to see if either is a worth keeping as a 4th OF. Maybe give Brett Jackson a chance to rack up some more strikeouts. Soriano won't be around if and when the Cubs window opens, Soler or Jae Hoon Ha might be.
 
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Iglesias just made one of the best catches you'll ever see in foul territory.

Markakis hits a popup off of 3B. Iglesias sprints with his back to the plate, stabs his glove in front of him at the last minute and the ball lands right in it. Impossible.

 
http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2013/07/miguel_alfredo_gonzalez_phillies.html

Here is a scouting report on Gonzalez from Baseball America.

Scouts generally agree that Gonzalez is a major leaguer, but projections vary significantly. Scouts highest on Gonzalez see his upside as a No. 3 starter who could pitch in the big leagues immediately, or at least soon after getting acclimated with some Triple-A time.

Others see a back-end starter, a middle relief option or a long reliever as more realistic projections given their concerns about how his stuff will play the second time through the order and as major league teams become more familiar with him. The lack of success from Nationals righthander Yunesky Maya, who had a strong record in Cuba with more pitchability but less velocity than Gonzalez, is a concern for some organizations.
 
http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2013/07/miguel_alfredo_gonzalez_phillies.html

Here is a scouting report on Gonzalez from Baseball America.

Scouts generally agree that Gonzalez is a major leaguer, but projections vary significantly. Scouts highest on Gonzalez see his upside as a No. 3 starter who could pitch in the big leagues immediately, or at least soon after getting acclimated with some Triple-A time.

Others see a back-end starter, a middle relief option or a long reliever as more realistic projections given their concerns about how his stuff will play the second time through the order and as major league teams become more familiar with him. The lack of success from Nationals righthander Yunesky Maya, who had a strong record in Cuba with more pitchability but less velocity than Gonzalez, is a concern for some organizations.
Sweet, we signed the best long man out of Cuba. Nice work Rube. :mellow:

 
http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2013/07/miguel_alfredo_gonzalez_phillies.html

Here is a scouting report on Gonzalez from Baseball America.

Scouts generally agree that Gonzalez is a major leaguer, but projections vary significantly. Scouts highest on Gonzalez see his upside as a No. 3 starter who could pitch in the big leagues immediately, or at least soon after getting acclimated with some Triple-A time.

Others see a back-end starter, a middle relief option or a long reliever as more realistic projections given their concerns about how his stuff will play the second time through the order and as major league teams become more familiar with him. The lack of success from Nationals righthander Yunesky Maya, who had a strong record in Cuba with more pitchability but less velocity than Gonzalez, is a concern for some organizations.
Sweet, we signed the best long man out of Cuba. Nice work Rube. :mellow:
Reports from scouts on - have been underwhelming. The Rangers have been the only team linked to -, though their senior-level decision makers were not in attendance at his recent workout in Mexico, where teams have reported that his conditioning appears to be an issue. Teams have no performance data or game video to work off from - in more than a year because he was suspended for the 2011-12 season in Serie Nacional. The last time any scouts could have legally evaluated - was in June 2011 in Rotterdam, where scouts seemed lukewarm at best on him. He's shown plus raw power and hit well in Cuba for a year before his suspension, but there are question marks about both his bat and his rawness in the outfield.

Prospect was Puig and almost everyone said the Dodgers severely overpaid for him
 
Peavy/Rios for Carlos Martinez/Joe Kelly/Kolten Wong? http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/405611/cardinals-considering-peavyramirez-package

Bowden says that the names of Carlos Martinez, Joe Kelly and Kolten Wong have been discussed as possible pieces that could head to the White Sox in a potential deal. Peavy is making $14.5 million in 2013 and 2014 and has a $15 million player option for 2015. Ramirez is earning $7 million this year and is owed a guaranteed $20.5 million through 2015.
 
Jose Fernandez is unbelievable... At this point in my H2H 3 player PTs keeper I am seriously giving a thought to dropping Stanton or Goldschmidt as a keeper for next year to keep Trout/Kershaw/Fernandez.

 
This HOF ceremony is awful.

They just 'formally' inducted Rogers Hornsby and Lou Gehrig?

Even shady knows those 2 were in there long before today.

 
Peavy/Rios for Carlos Martinez/Joe Kelly/Kolten Wong? http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/405611/cardinals-considering-peavyramirez-package

Bowden says that the names of Carlos Martinez, Joe Kelly and Kolten Wong have been discussed as possible pieces that could head to the White Sox in a potential deal. Peavy is making $14.5 million in 2013 and 2014 and has a $15 million player option for 2015. Ramirez is earning $7 million this year and is owed a guaranteed $20.5 million through 2015.
Rios or ramirez?

 
Jose Fernandez is unbelievable... At this point in my H2H 3 player PTs keeper I am seriously giving a thought to dropping Stanton or Goldschmidt as a keeper for next year to keep Trout/Kershaw/Fernandez.
Best pitcher on my staff. The only guy I don't play match-ups with. Doesn't try to just blow guys away with stuff, like so many youngsters; He came up knowing how to pitch.

 
I posted that because really, today was the first day I looked at Puig's stats. I'm a Kenley Jansen owner. Checked the box score to see if he might get the W and noticed that is said CS Puig (5). Caught stealing five times didn't seem right, so I went to his player page. Sure enough, he's 7 of 12 now. Also noticed the one home run and 3 RBIs since the break. And at the time he was 0-3 with 3 Ks. Yeah, none of that means Puig won't be a star, but I was one of the people who subscribed to the side that said putting a guy in the AS game on the strength of only (however many) games was premature. So sure, I saw the numbers and thought man, I haven't heard his name much lately.

 
I posted that because really, today was the first day I looked at Puig's stats. I'm a Kenley Jansen owner. Checked the box score to see if he might get the W and noticed that is said CS Puig (5). Caught stealing five times didn't seem right, so I went to his player page. Sure enough, he's 7 of 12 now. Also noticed the one home run and 3 RBIs since the break. And at the time he was 0-3 with 3 Ks. Yeah, none of that means Puig won't be a star, but I was one of the people who subscribed to the side that said putting a guy in the AS game on the strength of only (however many) games was premature. So sure, I saw the numbers and thought man, I haven't heard his name much lately.
Awesome talent, just hasn't learned the nuances of base running yet.

 
I posted that because really, today was the first day I looked at Puig's stats. I'm a Kenley Jansen owner. Checked the box score to see if he might get the W and noticed that is said CS Puig (5). Caught stealing five times didn't seem right, so I went to his player page. Sure enough, he's 7 of 12 now. Also noticed the one home run and 3 RBIs since the break. And at the time he was 0-3 with 3 Ks. Yeah, none of that means Puig won't be a star, but I was one of the people who subscribed to the side that said putting a guy in the AS game on the strength of only (however many) games was premature. So sure, I saw the numbers and thought man, I haven't heard his name much lately.
Admittedly it was an even smaller sample size, but I was not impressed at all with Puig when the Dodgers came to DC. It wasn't just that the numbers sucked: 0-8 with 5 Ks and benched for the finale, even while his team was sweeping the series. It was how easy it was for the Nats to find holes in his swing- I don't think he barreled the ball all weekend. After his second at bat of the first game of the series I wasn't even scared of him any more. Whatever it is that the Nats saw, other teams are gonna figure it out. I say he ends up as the Cuban Jeff Franceour.

 
I posted that because really, today was the first day I looked at Puig's stats. I'm a Kenley Jansen owner. Checked the box score to see if he might get the W and noticed that is said CS Puig (5). Caught stealing five times didn't seem right, so I went to his player page. Sure enough, he's 7 of 12 now. Also noticed the one home run and 3 RBIs since the break. And at the time he was 0-3 with 3 Ks. Yeah, none of that means Puig won't be a star, but I was one of the people who subscribed to the side that said putting a guy in the AS game on the strength of only (however many) games was premature. So sure, I saw the numbers and thought man, I haven't heard his name much lately.
Admittedly it was an even smaller sample size, but I was not impressed at all with Puig when the Dodgers came to DC. It wasn't just that the numbers sucked: 0-8 with 5 Ks and benched for the finale, even while his team was sweeping the series. It was how easy it was for the Nats to find holes in his swing- I don't think he barreled the ball all weekend. After his second at bat of the first game of the series I wasn't even scared of him any more. Whatever it is that the Nats saw, other teams are gonna figure it out. I say he ends up as the Cuban Jeff Franceour.
His swing actually reminds me more of Dayan Viciedo.

 

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