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***Official MLB 2013 Season Thread (2 Viewers)

The Marlins were 28 games under .500 on May 30. Today they are 24 games under.

Stanton being under control for 3 more years combined with 2+ months of above .500 baseball.....

I don't think Stanton getting moved is anywhere near a certainty.
Plus first year of arb is pretty cheap. And they can still get a ridiculous pile of elite prospects if they decide to move him after 2014, or even if they wait until the trade deadline in 2015, because Stanton is that good.
Now if dr parker happens to know something about him being scheduled for an offseason hip surgery.......
:lmao:

OK maybe I exaggerated (I never do that!) about Fernandez but hes definitely top 10

 
TobiasFunke said:
Limp Ditka said:
The Marlins were 28 games under .500 on May 30. Today they are 24 games under.

Stanton being under control for 3 more years combined with 2+ months of above .500 baseball.....

I don't think Stanton getting moved is anywhere near a certainty.
Plus first year of arb is pretty cheap. And they can still get a ridiculous pile of elite prospects if they decide to move him after 2014, or even if they wait until the trade deadline in 2015, because Stanton is that good.
The longer they wait, the worse their return will be. And the Marlins care far less about winning than being profitable. No matter how good they are on the field, they're not going to draw anyone. Plus, its no coincidence that their agreement with the union to up spending expired prior to this season.

Besides, first year arb players are supposed to get about 40% of their FA value. As a the best power hitter in the NL Stanton should expect an initial award in the 10-12 mil range or more. Sure, that's value, but that's not cheap to a team with a total opening day payroll this season around 50 mil that's doing even worse at the gate than they expected.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Limp Ditka said:
The Marlins were 28 games under .500 on May 30. Today they are 24 games under.

Stanton being under control for 3 more years combined with 2+ months of above .500 baseball.....

I don't think Stanton getting moved is anywhere near a certainty.
Plus first year of arb is pretty cheap. And they can still get a ridiculous pile of elite prospects if they decide to move him after 2014, or even if they wait until the trade deadline in 2015, because Stanton is that good.
The longer they wait, the worse their return will be. And the Marlins care far less about winning than being profitable. No matter how good they are on the field, they're not going to draw anyone. Plus, its no coincidence that their agreement with the union to up spending expired prior to this season.

Besides, first year arb players are supposed to get about 40% of their FA value. As a the best power hitter in the NL Stanton should expect an initial award in the 10-12 mil range or more. Sure, that's value, but that's not cheap to a team with a total opening day payroll this season around 50 mil that's doing even worse at the gate than they expected.
Then you should accept the wager. I'm offering you even money on what you seem to think is a can't miss proposition. You'd be insane to pass it up.

 
Wrigley said:
Doctor Detroit said:
They'd be incredibly stupid to move him, but this is the Marlins we are talking about.

I can't believe they have two recent World Series titles, horrible.
2 World Championships tells me they know what they are doing
Most of the architects of that run are long gone. They most certainly DO NOT know what they are doing in 2013. Have you seen the giant fish in their outfield? I rest my case. :shark:

 
Red Sox catcher Lavarnway charged with 4 passed balls in the 1st inning trying to catch Wright's knuckler. Runs have scored on two of them.

P.S. Still only 1 out. :popcorn:

 
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So Thursday afternoon it's Jose Fernandez vs Gerritt Cole.....and it's one of 12 games that Fox Sports Florida is NOT televising all year.

 
JaxBill said:
So Thursday afternoon it's Jose Fernandez vs Gerritt Cole.....and it's one of 12 games that Fox Sports Florida is NOT televising all year.
Some of these stations really aren't getting it.

ESPN interrupted a fantastic Cardinals/Dodgers game Monday to show ARod, twice...

 
TobiasFunke said:
Premier said:
Raider Nation said:
Awesome. You start a ####ty chant in another team's park, you get what you deserve.
:goodposting:

No problem with fans of the visiting club cheering on their team, but when you start a coordinated chant all bets are off. You're ####ing on the home fans and their good time at their own home park when you do that, and you deserve whatever comes your way.
That was good, I'm impressed with the Cleveland faithful. :thumbup:

 
Awesome. You start a ####ty chant in another team's park, you get what you deserve.
:goodposting:

No problem with fans of the visiting club cheering on their team, but when you start a coordinated chant all bets are off. You're ####ing on the home fans and their good time at their own home park when you do that, and you deserve whatever comes your way.
I read today that a fan got kicked out of a AAA Buffalo Bisons game a few weeks back for starting a "No Means No" chant with Josh Lueke on the mound, I think it would have been hilarious.

 
Los Angeles Angels first baseman Albert Pujols will be taking legal action against former MLB player Jack Clark after Clark made comments accusing Pujols of using performance-enhancing drugs, according to Los Angeles Times reporter Mike DiGiovanna.In a statement released by Pujols, the slugger said that it was “irresponsible and reckless for Jack Clark to falsely accuse me of using PEDs.”

Pujols’ defiant statement against Clark’s accusations:

I’ve said time and time again that I would never take, or even consider taking, anything illegal. I’ve been tested hundreds of times throughout my career and never once have I tested positive. It is irresponsible and reckless for Jack Clark to have falsely accused me of using PED’s. My faith in Jesus Christ, and my respect for this game are too important to me. I would never be able to look my wife or kids in the eye if I had done what this man is accusing me of.

I know people are tired of athletes saying they are innocent, asking for the public to believe in them, only to have their sins exposed later down the road. But I am not one of those athletes, and I will not stand to have my name and my family’s name, dragged through the mud.

I am currently in the process of taking legal action against Jack Clark and his employers at WGNU 920AM. I am going to send a message that you cannot act in a reckless manner, like they have, and get away with it. If I have to be the athlete to carry the torch and pave the way for other innocent players to see that you can do something about it, I am proud to be that person. I have five young children and I take being a role model very seriously. The last thing I want is for the fans, and especially the kids out there, to question my reputation and character.

Clark, as a co-host of a sports talk radio show on WGNU (920 AM), said Pujols’ former personal trainer Chris Mihfield told Clark that Pujols was using performance-enhancing drugs.

According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Clark said that Mihfield “had told me what he was doing with ‘Poolie’ — threw him batting practice, worked him out, shot him up, all that stuff.” Clark brought up Pujols’ name up twice in the first week working at the station when discussing the topic of performance enhancing drugs.

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch report :

And Clark, who still hasn’t completed his first full week as co-host of the afternoon drive-time with Kevin Slaten at WGNU (920 AM), isn’t just some former athlete who has been out of the loop for decades and shooting from the hip. He was the hitting coach of the Los Angeles Dodgers in the early 2000s when he said he was told by Chris Mihlfeld, who for a time was Pujols’ personal trainer, that Mihlfeld “shot him up.”

Clark has brought Pujols’ situation up at least twice already on the air. The first time, after Slaten said last Friday that he long has believed that Pujols “has been a juicer,” Clark jumped in before Slaten finished his thought and said, “I know for a fact he was. The trainer that worked with him, threw him batting practice from Kansas City, that worked him out every day, basically told me that’s what he did.”

Clark, a retired player who hit 340 home runs over 18 MLB seasons, also accused Detroit Tigers pitcher Justin Verlander of using performance-enhancing drugs. He said Verlander’s dip in velocity and overall dominance is correlated with Verlander no longer using the drugs after Verlander signed a long-term deal with the Tigers.

Clark commented on Verlander’s performance to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

“Verlander was like Nolan Ryan, he threw 97, 98, 100 miles an hour from the first inning to the ninth inning,” Clark said on the air. “He got that big contract, now he can barely reach 92, 93. What happened to it? He has no arm problems, nothing’s wrong. It’s just the signs are there.

“The greed … they juice up, they grab the money and it’s just a free pass to steal is the way I look at it.”

Verlander responded by calling Clark’s comments “moronic.”
Just a guess; Albert didn't actually come up with the phrase “irresponsible and reckless" all by himself.

 
Los Angeles Angels first baseman Albert Pujols will be taking legal action against former MLB player Jack Clark after Clark made comments accusing Pujols of using performance-enhancing drugs, according to Los Angeles Times reporter Mike DiGiovanna.In a statement released by Pujols, the slugger said that it was “irresponsible and reckless for Jack Clark to falsely accuse me of using PEDs.”

Pujols’ defiant statement against Clark’s accusations:

I’ve said time and time again that I would never take, or even consider taking, anything illegal. I’ve been tested hundreds of times throughout my career and never once have I tested positive. It is irresponsible and reckless for Jack Clark to have falsely accused me of using PED’s. My faith in Jesus Christ, and my respect for this game are too important to me. I would never be able to look my wife or kids in the eye if I had done what this man is accusing me of.

I know people are tired of athletes saying they are innocent, asking for the public to believe in them, only to have their sins exposed later down the road. But I am not one of those athletes, and I will not stand to have my name and my family’s name, dragged through the mud.

I am currently in the process of taking legal action against Jack Clark and his employers at WGNU 920AM. I am going to send a message that you cannot act in a reckless manner, like they have, and get away with it. If I have to be the athlete to carry the torch and pave the way for other innocent players to see that you can do something about it, I am proud to be that person. I have five young children and I take being a role model very seriously. The last thing I want is for the fans, and especially the kids out there, to question my reputation and character.

Clark, as a co-host of a sports talk radio show on WGNU (920 AM), said Pujols’ former personal trainer Chris Mihfield told Clark that Pujols was using performance-enhancing drugs.

According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Clark said that Mihfield “had told me what he was doing with ‘Poolie’ — threw him batting practice, worked him out, shot him up, all that stuff.” Clark brought up Pujols’ name up twice in the first week working at the station when discussing the topic of performance enhancing drugs.

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch report :

And Clark, who still hasn’t completed his first full week as co-host of the afternoon drive-time with Kevin Slaten at WGNU (920 AM), isn’t just some former athlete who has been out of the loop for decades and shooting from the hip. He was the hitting coach of the Los Angeles Dodgers in the early 2000s when he said he was told by Chris Mihlfeld, who for a time was Pujols’ personal trainer, that Mihlfeld “shot him up.”

Clark has brought Pujols’ situation up at least twice already on the air. The first time, after Slaten said last Friday that he long has believed that Pujols “has been a juicer,” Clark jumped in before Slaten finished his thought and said, “I know for a fact he was. The trainer that worked with him, threw him batting practice from Kansas City, that worked him out every day, basically told me that’s what he did.”

Clark, a retired player who hit 340 home runs over 18 MLB seasons, also accused Detroit Tigers pitcher Justin Verlander of using performance-enhancing drugs. He said Verlander’s dip in velocity and overall dominance is correlated with Verlander no longer using the drugs after Verlander signed a long-term deal with the Tigers.

Clark commented on Verlander’s performance to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

“Verlander was like Nolan Ryan, he threw 97, 98, 100 miles an hour from the first inning to the ninth inning,” Clark said on the air. “He got that big contract, now he can barely reach 92, 93. What happened to it? He has no arm problems, nothing’s wrong. It’s just the signs are there.

“The greed … they juice up, they grab the money and it’s just a free pass to steal is the way I look at it.”

Verlander responded by calling Clark’s comments “moronic.”
Just a guess; Albert didn't actually come up with the phrase “irresponsible and reckless" all by himself.
Clark and his co-host Kevin Slaten were the two biggest narcissists to ever be in St. Louis radio.

I say "were" because they both have been fired already.

 
Does Mariano really like Metallica? There's gotta be a story behind that.
Mariano Rivera would be plenty intimidating coming into a game in complete silence, but playing “Enter Sandman” by Metallica as his entrance music definitely adds to the hitters’ sense of dread.

Yet as Bryan Hoch of MLB.com writes, Rivera isn’t even a fan of the song and the Yankees only stumbled into using it for his entrances because they were trying to copy the Padres’ use of “Hells Bells” for Trevor Hoffman.

According to Hoch in 1999 they initially tried “Welcome to the Jungle” and “Paradise City” by Guns N’ Roses, but weren’t satisfied with the crowd reaction. Then a freelance member of the scoreboard production team named Mike Luzzi brought in some CDs and suggested “Enter Sandman.”

And the rest is history.

In retrospect the song’s ominous tone and lyrics are a perfect fit for Rivera coming in to close the door on opponents, but here’s what the future Hall of Famer told Hoch about being forever linked to the 1991 song:

"I never said that I didn’t like it, but I didn’t care about the song. I didn’t pick the song. I don’t pay attention to the music. When I go in there, I’m going to business. I have a job to do, that’s it. It’s not part of my identity. People identify it [with me], but that’s it. I wouldn’t say that’s my identity. To tell you the truth, I have to do one thing. I go out there and pitch."

 

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