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*** OFFICIAL New Orleans Saints Thread *** (2 Viewers)

saintfool said:
i was thinking they were a 9-7 team with the offseason. we wouldn't win the division but maybe sneak into the playoffs. the way we have played though this preseason? 4-12 seems more likely. we'll lose a ton of downright ugly games this year.
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don't know how it will turn out, but definitely feels like a watershed year.  from a fantasy perspective, I think brees, ingram, cooks and thomas may disappoint.  considering snead and spiller at their current prices.

 
looking for some insider knowledge..

where should we sit in the super dome?  are the nose bleeds terrible?  can you see anything in the lower bowl end zone seats?  there are tickets available everywhere, just trying to get my bearings.  

tia

 
need2know said:
Why the hell are they playing their starters tommorow night
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I guess they've been generally crappy, there may be two position shifts on the line and I think SP might actually want a win to get some confidence going.

 
DA RAIDERS said:
looking for some insider knowledge..

where should we sit in the super dome?  are the nose bleeds terrible?  can you see anything in the lower bowl end zone seats?  there are tickets available everywhere, just trying to get my bearings.  

tia
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Loge, 2nd tier is best. Plaza lower level is good IMO but you know the score, not all the way in the EZ or the first 3 or so rows but otherwise that's what I'd go for. Terrace 3rd tier is fine as long as you're closer to the rail. It goes up and up and up though, don't go too far up. Good luck.

 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
don't know how it will turn out, but definitely feels like a watershed year.  from a fantasy perspective, I think brees, ingram, cooks and thomas may disappoint.  considering snead and spiller at their current prices.
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In more ways than one, ownership and control is eventually going to flip. I also have a bad feeling about Brees no resigning.

 
More random thoughts:

- I continue to be unhappy with the Saints' kicker selection. 20 Years after Morten Andersen proved what a weapon a long-legged kicker with a long leg can be in the Dome, they continue to go for the accurate, middle of the pack guy. I don't know if Barth was going to be better but it took him 5 seconds to find a new job in Chicago.

 
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Magic_Man said:
Spiller has done nothing to take the #2 job from Hightower.
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Agree.  These people thinking that spiller is going to do anything have seem to forget how awful he's been for years.  He ls still coasting off one season in Buffalo 4 years ago.  Hightower is actually a complete back who doesnt get hurt every 3 games

 
About Spiller, all true but I think the Saints need a return to the halfback screen in a big way, more than what they are getting from Ingram alone. The most disappointing thing with Spiller for me hasn't been his lousy running and injuries but his lack of involvement in the passing game. Having said that IMO he did look better this preseason.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
About Spiller, all true but I think the Saints need a return to the halfback screen in a big way, more than what they are getting from Ingram alone. The most disappointing thing with Spiller for me hasn't been his lousy running and injuries but his lack of involvement in the passing game. Having said that IMO he did look better this preseason.
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Well its hard to look worse then he looked last season

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
About Spiller, all true but I think the Saints need a return to the halfback screen in a big way, more than what they are getting from Ingram alone. The most disappointing thing with Spiller for me hasn't been his lousy running and injuries but his lack of involvement in the passing game. Having said that IMO he did look better this preseason.
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I'm also a big believer in ingram this season

 
Ditka Butkus said:
Hey I've got an idea ...lets cut Connor Barth and keep Kai Forbath....great idea!......one day later...#### it, lets cut Forbath and go with the unknown Wil Lutz...


Ian Rapoport Verified account ‏@RapSheet


Will Lutz worked out for #Saints, got a recommendation from #Ravens and was headed to the practice squad. Now? He’s the starter, Forbath cut
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need2know said:
It's really strange.  Wtf are they doing with their kickers?
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WHO THE %$*#ity ^@#! is Wil LUTZ?

Are these people out of their gourdes?

 
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Josh Katzenstein Verified account ‏@jkatzenstein 3h3 hours ago
Clarifying earlier tweet: Wil Lutz's tryout on Monday included 12 field goals. He made 10. Misses from 54 and 59, but he made a 54.
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John Hendrix ‏@JohnJHendrix


Here's Wil Lutz at his Pro Day. A leg cannon
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Published on Mar 11, 2016
Georgia State Pro Day
Weather: Overcast 79 Degrees 5-8 MPH Winds
Field Goals: 7/7 from 40-61 yards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWvN07VFBs8
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Byrd benched.

I want Loomis' head on a stake.
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I don't really blame Loomis ... I think in some manner Byrd was misrepresented to the Saints. He was IMHO hiding an injury in 2014 until after he signed here. Then, whenever he got healthy enough to suit up, he's played tentatively ... pretty much like he's saving himself and aiming for another contract somewhere. Fact is, Byrd hasn't given the Saints what he gave the Bills, despite getting paid -- and I think a lot of that is willful on Byrd's part.

To be fair, it's also possible that Byrd is just physically done after the injuries of the last few years -- maybe I'm wrong, his head IS in the right place but his body can no longer compete.

 
Doug B said:
I don't really blame Loomis ... I think in some manner Byrd was misrepresented to the Saints. He was IMHO hiding an injury in 2014 until after he signed here. Then, whenever he got healthy enough to suit up, he's played tentatively ... pretty much like he's saving himself and aiming for another contract somewhere. Fact is, Byrd hasn't given the Saints what he gave the Bills, despite getting paid -- and I think a lot of that is willful on Byrd's part.

To be fair, it's also possible that Byrd is just physically done after the injuries of the last few years -- maybe I'm wrong, his head IS in the right place but his body can no longer compete.
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Ok we have given up a lot from the money we've been shoveling him. I'm about the most patient Saints fan there is but this signing has been an abject failure.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Ok we have given up a lot from the money we've been shoveling him. I'm about the most patient Saints fan there is but this signing has been an abject failure.
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Absolutely a failure -- but not necessarily a failure that should have been seen coming.

I think the Saints have been much more unlucky than hapless over the last few years. This is assuming there was nothing known behind the scenes about Galette and Graham's true natures before they got the big contracts. I could entertain the argument that Payton, Loomis, or the scouting department have poor "spidey sense" about players ... that they seem to too often get "fooled" into bad contracts. But I'm not sure what great front offices do differently here. Some teams, like the Patriots, cut their mistakes quick and don't seem to suffer from it. But then, they don't pay anyone but Brady, and it all seems to work anyway.

 
THE DOME PATROL


After decades of despair, a historically dominant linebacker corps changed everything for the New Orleans Saints.

 





Deep in the fourth quarter of a late-November showdown with the Steelers at Three Rivers Stadium, the Saints' defense has its back to the end zone, trying to protect a 20-14 lead as Pittsburgh faces a first-and-goal from the 4-yard line.
The Saints are riding a four-game winning streak, but the stakes are higher than simply pushing that run to five straight. A victory for New Orleans clinches a winning record for the 1987 season -- a feat that has yet to be accomplished in the franchise's 20-year history.

The home crowd's deafening roar descends upon the field, attempting to will the Steelers into the end zone.

Two straight runs at the heart of New Orleans' vaunted front seven net Pittsburgh just 3 yards, with key tackles by middle linebacker Vaughan Johnson and Pro Bowl outside linebacker Rickey Jackson. Precious seconds erode from the game clock.

"Like throwing popcorn at a battle ship, trying to run inside like that," former Chiefs head coach Hank Stram quips alongside Tim Brant from the CBS Sports booth. He's been barking for the Steelers to try something to the outside. And on third-and-goal, Stram gets his wish.

Fullback Frank Pollard leaks out into the flat as middle linebacker Sam Mills is uncharacteristically late to diagnose the play. With Steelers quarterback Mark Malone rolling to his right, Pollard is wide open. The go-ahead score seems imminent ... until Jackson blows past pulling guard Terry Long and bats Malone's pass harmlessly to the ground.

Fourth-and-goal. Fourth-and-game. Call it what you will -- at this point, there hasn't been a more important down and distance in Saints history.

The play call is a power toss to the left. Pollard sprints for the goal line, but right outside linebacker Pat Swilling sets the edge well enough to turn him upfield sooner than he'd like. Instead of running to daylight, Pollard is met by a 5-foot-9 brick wall better known as Samuel Davis Mills Jr.

Turnover on downs.

"Look at the shot inside!" Stram exclaims, watching a replay of Mills' hit. "I don't care who it was -- it was a great performance on the part of the New Orleans Saints."

The players erupt in celebration, tasting that elusive winning season. And even though the defense later would have to seal the win by intercepting Malone for the third time, the goal-line stand is why this game is remembered. Not only did it bring the Saints their first campaign north of .500 in 20 years -- the longest drought in NFL history -- it was made with key plays by linebackers Rickey Jackson, Sam Mills, Vaughan Johnson and Pat Swilling.

Together they formed the most dominant linebacking corps the league has ever seen. Over the course of their six seasons starting together, they'd go on to set numerous records, earn a combined 13 trips to the Pro Bowl and march the Saints to the playoffs four separate times while leading a defense that was feared across the league. And as the franchise celebrates its 50th anniversary, their indelible impact demands to be reexamined.

They were the Dome Patrol.

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http://www.nfl.com/domepatrol

- Great piece on NFL.com.

 
i kind of like this year's team. it's far from perfect but i like their moxie. i'd feel a lot better if the kicking game didn't stink but whatever. the defense is coming along despite the injuries, the o-line is better than its been in a long while, and the offense is very respectable. i don't know that we're making the playoffs but we're improving.

 
saintfool said:
i kind of like this year's team. it's far from perfect but i like their moxie. i'd feel a lot better if the kicking game didn't stink but whatever. the defense is coming along despite the injuries, the o-line is better than its been in a long while, and the offense is very respectable. i don't know that we're making the playoffs but we're improving.
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I agree with all of this.  They just need to win a few of these super close games.  It's like getting kicked in the nuts every weekend.

 
Rankins has really helped the D. Breaux has played well since returning and Ellerbe looks good until his next injury. I am optimistic for the rest of the season.

 
Congrats to Morten Andersen - the Great Dane deserves to be in the HOF!

(And it's one of the great ignominies of Saints history that they let him go to sign with the falcs!).

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Order has been restored to the universe. The falcs are done, in humiliating fashion too, that ride may have been worth it.
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I, too, found strange comfort in that. If any team two teams in recent memory deserve to be associated with the greatest choke jobs of Superbowl history then I'm good with it being either Seattle or Atlanta. 

 
also, i know it's been a while since the Superbowl for us, but i feel like that Saints team is all too easily forgotten. everything about that game was amazing.

 
saintfool said:
also, i know it's been a while since the Superbowl for us, but I feel like that Saints team is all too easily forgotten. everything about that game was amazing.
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Woulda, shoulda, coulda ... but fact is -- Saints should have had another title after the 2011 season. Of course, that ground has been trodden over ad nauseum.

Not getting that second title (or at least a second SB appearance) puts the 2009 Saints in that one-hit-wonder bucket with teams like the 2002 Buccaneers. Makes it a lot easier for Brees' career to be minimized, too.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Guard, DT, LB, KR. Good haul today.

Im in favor of keeping Cooks, but not holding out hope.
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Definitely like the OG and getting Fairley back.  I'd be happy to get Malcolm Butler for Cooks.  I gotta think they're trying to work out an extension for Butler right now, but's it's not gonna be cheap.

 
Saints got hosed.  Giving a 4 back was just a slap in the face.  I know that Cooks isn't happy, but he shouldn't be running the team.  I'm really upset if the 18 was actually on the table a couple days ago.  

 
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