***Official NFC Championship Thread: Seahawks v 49ers*** (5 Viewers)

[Doctor Detroit]

I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.

I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.

How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?

Weather familiarity? You don't believe in such things? Northeast winters are far far different than a (obviously) SF winter. Or Seattle winter. And even a Denver winter (though this is closest).

Average day night temperatures in early Feb (TWC)

40/24 NYC

38/23 Boston

48/38 Seattle

47/20 Denver

NYC averages about 25 inches of snowfall a year, Boston 43, Denver about 57 inches, Seattle 10 (Seattle and Boston get about the same amount of precip).

So I wouldn't say those are that much different.

 

[seahawk 17]

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6633/kj-wright

Seahawks SLB K.J. Wright (foot surgery) returned to practice on Wednesday.
Coach Pete Carroll said Monday that there's a "chance" Wright returns for the NFC Championship Game, but what he's able to do Wednesday and Thursday will be all important. Wright hasn't played since December 8. Wright was a near every-down player before going down, but he'd almost certainly be on a snap count against the 49ers

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/282099/percy-harvin-(concussion)-yet-to-be-cleared

Percy Harvin (concussion) was held out of Wednesday's practice.
Instead, he met with doctors. The Seahawks haven't offered much of an update on Harvin's status, suggesting there's a real chance he misses Sunday's NFC Championship Game. He should be considered no better than 50-50 to suit up. Harvin's status will be updated Thursday.

 

[Scoresman]

I'm guessing that with concussions being under such a microscope, Harvin's injury isn't one where he can just play through on determination alone.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm guessing that with concussions being under such a microscope, Harvin's injury isn't one where he can just play through on determination alone.

The tests and protocol will determine whether he plays or not, it's pretty cut-and-dried these days.

 

[BassNBrew]

Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.

Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.

I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.

I know it was pre-season, but you should have seen how inept Peyton, Welker, and Thomas looked against the Seattle defense. Game ended 41-10 if I remember right.

Well Manning only played 1.5 quarters. Hawks jumped to a 10-0 lead. Manning made it 10-7. Denver was driving again when Hillman fumbled at the one and the Hawks returned it 106 yards for a TD.

Manning was 11 for 16, 163 yards and a TD (no picks). He was on track for 450 yards and 3 TDs. Doesn't seem inept to me.

 

[ScottyDog]

Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.

Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.

I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.

I know it was pre-season, but you should have seen how inept Peyton, Welker, and Thomas looked against the Seattle defense. Game ended 41-10 if I remember right.

Well Manning only played 1.5 quarters. Hawks jumped to a 10-0 lead. Manning made it 10-7. Denver was driving again when Hillman fumbled at the one and the Hawks returned it 106 yards for a TD.

Manning was 11 for 16, 163 yards and a TD (no picks). He was on track for 450 yards and 3 TDs. Doesn't seem inept to me.

Those are not the facts, did you even watch the game. I did.

 

[BassNBrew]

Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.

Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.

I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.

I know it was pre-season, but you should have seen how inept Peyton, Welker, and Thomas looked against the Seattle defense. Game ended 41-10 if I remember right.

Well Manning only played 1.5 quarters. Hawks jumped to a 10-0 lead. Manning made it 10-7. Denver was driving again when Hillman fumbled at the one and the Hawks returned it 106 yards for a TD.

Manning was 11 for 16, 163 yards and a TD (no picks). He was on track for 450 yards and 3 TDs. Doesn't seem inept to me.

Those are not the facts, did you even watch the game. I did.

LOL...your correct. SEattle had a kickoff return in their too.

Bottom line; Manning 11-16-1-0 and Osweiler was in the game at 6:52 of the 2nd quarter.

I have zero doubts that Manning will be able to score against either Seattle or SF. I could see Brady struggling against both.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.

Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.

I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.

I know it was pre-season, but you should have seen how inept Peyton, Welker, and Thomas looked against the Seattle defense. Game ended 41-10 if I remember right.

Well Manning only played 1.5 quarters. Hawks jumped to a 10-0 lead. Manning made it 10-7. Denver was driving again when Hillman fumbled at the one and the Hawks returned it 106 yards for a TD.

Manning was 11 for 16, 163 yards and a TD (no picks). He was on track for 450 yards and 3 TDs. Doesn't seem inept to me.

Those are not the facts, did you even watch the game. I did.

You're a dope. He just provided statistics showing that Manning wasn't inept (as you asserted). At least try to defend your statement.......

 

[drummer]

Arguing over a pre-season game is what people in recovery call hitting rock bottom.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Who gives a #### what Manning did in a preseason game vs the Seahawks?

FYI: this week they play the 49ers, not the Broncos.

 

[BassNBrew]

Who gives a #### what Manning did in a preseason game vs the Seahawks?

FYI: this week they play the 49ers, not the Broncos.

A Seattle fan.

 

[sho nuff]

Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.

Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.

I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.

I know it was pre-season, but you should have seen how inept Peyton, Welker, and Thomas looked against the Seattle defense. Game ended 41-10 if I remember right.

Well Manning only played 1.5 quarters. Hawks jumped to a 10-0 lead. Manning made it 10-7. Denver was driving again when Hillman fumbled at the one and the Hawks returned it 106 yards for a TD.

Manning was 11 for 16, 163 yards and a TD (no picks). He was on track for 450 yards and 3 TDs. Doesn't seem inept to me.

Those are not the facts, did you even watch the game. I did.

You're a dope. He just provided statistics showing that Manning wasn't inept (as you asserted). At least try to defend your statement.......

Did he yell Omaha though?

 

[southeastjerome]

I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.

I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.

How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?

Weather familiarity? You don't believe in such things? Northeast winters are far far different than a (obviously) SF winter. Or Seattle winter. And even a Denver winter (though this is closest).

Average day night temperatures in early Feb (TWC)

40/24 NYC

38/23 Boston

48/38 Seattle

47/20 Denver

NYC averages about 25 inches of snowfall a year, Boston 43, Denver about 57 inches, Seattle 10 (Seattle and Boston get about the same amount of precip).

So I wouldn't say those are that much different.

I'd say there is a pretty big difference from a snowfall perspective. According to the NOAA, Seattle averages 5.0 inches of snow a year, Boston 43.8 and Denver 53.8. As far as number of days with snow: Seattle 3, Boston 22, Denver 33. I think that is a significant difference. I do not recall any game in Seattle that was played in accumulating snow. I'm guessing it has happened, but I can't remember it happening.

 

[drummer]

I remember freezing my ### off at the 'Stick watching a baseball game during the summer. If felt colder than Chicago in January.

 

[southeastjerome]

I remember freezing my ### off at the 'Stick watching a baseball game during the summer. If felt colder than Chicago in January.

SF? Isn't cold there like 40 degrees?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.

I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.

How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?

Weather familiarity? You don't believe in such things? Northeast winters are far far different than a (obviously) SF winter. Or Seattle winter. And even a Denver winter (though this is closest).

Average day night temperatures in early Feb (TWC)

40/24 NYC

38/23 Boston

48/38 Seattle

47/20 Denver

NYC averages about 25 inches of snowfall a year, Boston 43, Denver about 57 inches, Seattle 10 (Seattle and Boston get about the same amount of precip).

So I wouldn't say those are that much different.

I'd say there is a pretty big difference from a snowfall perspective. According to the NOAA, Seattle averages 5.0 inches of snow a year, Boston 43.8 and Denver 53.8. As far as number of days with snow: Seattle 3, Boston 22, Denver 33. I think that is a significant difference. I do not recall any game in Seattle that was played in accumulating snow. I'm guessing it has happened, but I can't remember it happening.

How many times has snow actually impacted a playoff game? Tuck rule game? Playing in 40 degrees, wind and rain means Seattle can play in any condition. It's the temperature that is problematic in an outdoor Super Bowl, if it were to snow no team has an advantage because snow just doesn't impact that many games for it to be some sort of advantage/disadvantage IMO.

 

[drummer]

I remember freezing my ### off at the 'Stick watching a baseball game during the summer. If felt colder than Chicago in January.

SF? Isn't cold there like 40 degrees?

With the wind, it feels a lot colder. It goes right through all of the layers of clothing. My buddy who I was with watching that game lived in Cleveland as well as other colder climates, and he was freezing too.

 

[The General]

Fox bringing some Star Trek #### to the telecast...

heatvision

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

I remember freezing my ### off at the 'Stick watching a baseball game during the summer. If felt colder than Chicago in January.

SF? Isn't cold there like 40 degrees?

I've lived in Wyoming, but the immediate bay area can be damn cold at times.

 

[fantasycurse42]

This thread is bringing the awfulness one would expect... Obviously leading the charge is ScottyDog; Please tell me more about Peyton Manning's game in August against Seattle

For now on, instead of using the word awful in a sentence, I'm just saying ScottyDog.

I.E. Andy Dalton looked absolutely ScottyDog against the Chargers last week.

 

[southeastjerome]

I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.

I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.

How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?

Weather familiarity? You don't believe in such things? Northeast winters are far far different than a (obviously) SF winter. Or Seattle winter. And even a Denver winter (though this is closest).

Average day night temperatures in early Feb (TWC)

40/24 NYC

38/23 Boston

48/38 Seattle

47/20 Denver

NYC averages about 25 inches of snowfall a year, Boston 43, Denver about 57 inches, Seattle 10 (Seattle and Boston get about the same amount of precip).

So I wouldn't say those are that much different.

I'd say there is a pretty big difference from a snowfall perspective. According to the NOAA, Seattle averages 5.0 inches of snow a year, Boston 43.8 and Denver 53.8. As far as number of days with snow: Seattle 3, Boston 22, Denver 33. I think that is a significant difference. I do not recall any game in Seattle that was played in accumulating snow. I'm guessing it has happened, but I can't remember it happening.

How many times has snow actually impacted a playoff game? Tuck rule game? Playing in 40 degrees, wind and rain means Seattle can play in any condition. It's the temperature that is problematic in an outdoor Super Bowl, if it were to snow no team has an advantage because snow just doesn't impact that many games for it to be some sort of advantage/disadvantage IMO.

I'd argue the Pats are better equipped in the cold weather too. You can't argue that they haven't played in it more, even just from the home games. The "low" for Seattle is 38. The all time record low for Seattle is 11 degrees. It gets that cold or colder seemingly every year in Boston. Also, they often practice outside no matter what the temperature is so they can practice in the elements. A team like Seattle can't reproduce that.

As for Pats snow games, I don't remember them all, but there are more than you think:

2004 AFC Championship vs Colts. Pats won

2005 Pats/Colts Playoff game, Pats won

2008 vs Arizona, Pats won a blowout

2009 vs Tennessee, the 59-0 game.

2010 vs Chicago, Pats 36-7

I can't think of a snow game that the Patriots have lost. The only "elements" game that I can remember them losing is that rain/wind game on MNF vs SF that they came back from a huge deficit to lose.

I just briefly scanned game logs for the last 3 seasons. Pats are 6-0 in games below freezing. Seahawks have not played a game below freezing. Coldest game they have seen was 36 degrees this year vs the Giants, they won 23-0.

Wilson does seem to throw well in the wind, which is important, but I don't think there is a better QB throwing in the wind than Brady. Just my opinion.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Seattle 28

San Fran 20

A well fought game between arguably the 2 best teams in the NFL and 2 outstanding fanbases. I like seeing hatred between fanbases. That illustrates the intensity of the game recent rivalries between them. I expect to see a few unsportsman like penalties, maybe a scrum and a possible ejection stemming from some questionable hits. I hope everyone stays healthy, the players and the fans. I'd also love to see a "What's your deal" part II at the end.

 

[biju]

This thread is bringing the awfulness one would expect... Obviously leading the charge is ScottyDog; Please tell me more about Peyton Manning's game in August against Seattle

For now on, instead of using the word awful in a sentence, I'm just saying ScottyDog.

I.E. Andy Dalton looked absolutely ScottyDog against the Chargers last week.

These threads are awful because non-Seahawks fans come in here to fish so they can later spout on about how terrible Seahawks fans are. Unfortunately there are folks who always take the bait.

 

[proninja]

This thread is bringing the awfulness one would expect... Obviously leading the charge is ScottyDog; Please tell me more about Peyton Manning's game in August against Seattle

For now on, instead of using the word awful in a sentence, I'm just saying ScottyDog.

I.E. Andy Dalton looked absolutely ScottyDog against the Chargers last week.

These threads are awful because non-Seahawks fans come in here to fish so they can later spout on about how terrible Seahawks fans are. Unfortunately there are folks who always take the bait.

We've even got guys from the FFA dropping lines in the water in these threads nowadays.

 

[Scoresman]

The terribleness of seahawk fans is not isolated to this website. It's just as bad in real life and other forums I visit.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

"real life"

 

[Scoresman]

"real life"

I like to think of these forums as a fantasy world where I can escape the pain of my real life.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Gene Steratore will be the official for this game.

I seem to remember him getting blasted on local radio for some calls vs the Redskins this year, but I think generally he's highly regarded. How the officials call this game will be important. If they don't let the teams play their physical style, there are going to be a boatload of flags and it's gonna be awful. I liked the way the Packers/Niners game was called in particular, but the officiating in the playoffs has been decent thus far IMO.

 

[thecatch]

Gene Steratore will be the official for this game.

I seem to remember him getting blasted on local radio for some calls vs the Redskins this year, but I think generally he's highly regarded. How the officials call this game will be important. If they don't let the teams play their physical style, there are going to be a boatload of flags and it's gonna be awful. I liked the way the Packers/Niners game was called in particular, but the officiating in the playoffs has been decent thus far IMO.

If the officials let everything go the way they did in GB, they will lose control of this game in a hurry.

 

[Neofight]

Gene Steratore will be the official for this game.

I seem to remember him getting blasted on local radio for some calls vs the Redskins this year, but I think generally he's highly regarded. How the officials call this game will be important. If they don't let the teams play their physical style, there are going to be a boatload of flags and it's gonna be awful. I liked the way the Packers/Niners game was called in particular, but the officiating in the playoffs has been decent thus far IMO.

That Packers/Niners game was as good as it's been thus far in the playoffs, which isn't saying much. A lot of bad officiating in the playoffs is no surprise after the fiasco that was the regular season.

 

[chinawildman]

The 2 playoff games so far for the niners have been polar opposites as far as how they've dealt with penalties. I would think that this weekend's game would be called more like the Carolina game due to the similar nature of the 2 defenses (car/sea). As has been mentioned, if they don't call this one tight it could get out of hand real fast.

 

[Neofight]

The 2 playoff games so far for the niners have been polar opposites as far as how they've dealt with penalties. I would think that this weekend's game would be called more like the Carolina game due to the similar nature of the 2 defenses (car/sea). As has been mentioned, if they don't call this one tight it could get out of hand real fast.

I don't think this one will be a flag fest, I'm just hoping for some measure of consistency and no blown obvious calls. It seems like there is at least one of those per game so far, sometimes more.

 

[Fullback Fro]

Please keep the discussion going about what it will be like when Seattle plays NE in the superbowl.

TIA

 

[Scoresman]

I'd like to see more flags for the post-play taunting and fighting and less flags for the questionable PI calls.

 

[Scoresman]

Please keep the discussion going about what it will be like when Seattle plays NE in the superbowl.

TIA

You should talk to the guy who already got a Seahawks Superbowl Champs tattoo.

:seahawkfans:

 

[Fullback Fro]

Please keep the discussion going about what it will be like when Seattle plays NE in the superbowl.

TIA

You should talk to the guy who already got a Seahawks Superbowl Champs tattoo.

:seahawkfans:

I love this. Thanks for posting

 

[cacksman]

Big day today for Harvin news I believe. If he plays, Seattle wins by at least a touchdown.

 

[ScottyDog]

John Clayton doesn't think Harvin will play, he said that on 710 espn this morning.

 

[Gadabout]

Big day today for Harvin news I believe. If he plays, Seattle wins by at least a touchdown.

What, they're playing two-hand touch this weekend?

 

[seahawk 17]

Please keep the discussion going about what it will be like when Seattle plays NE in the superbowl.

TIA

You should talk to the guy who already got a Seahawks Superbowl Champs tattoo.

:seahawkfans:

I love this. Thanks for posting

“I’m not crazy,” Connors said, who embedded the tattoo on his person before the season. “I’m not crazy at all.”

But you're going to be either extremely lucky, or really dumb.

 

[biju]

I'd like to see more flags for the post-play taunting and fighting and less flags for the questionable PI calls.

I hope they start calling unsportsmanlike conduct every time a WR calls for a penalty.

 

[Scoresman]

I'd like to see more flags for the post-play taunting and fighting and less flags for the questionable PI calls.

I hope they start calling unsportsmanlike conduct every time a WR calls for a penalty.

so every incompletion?

 

[[icon]]

Not sure if this has been posted but a buddy showed this to his Niner's fan wife last night at the bar. I had to laugh...

I figured some of the Niners fans in here would get a kick out of it as well.

KAEPERNICK IS READY!!!1!!

 

[Rubi]

I can't help but see parallels between The Steelers and Giants recent Super Bowl runs as lower seeds.

I'm liking the Niner's this week as underdogs,straight up.

 

[cacksman]

I think this Sunday will be the loudest pro football event in the history of the game. Even all the games this year(Week 2 vs SF, Week 12 vs NO) were said not to have reached the crowd sustainability of the 2005 NFC Championship game.

No one hated Delhomme and John Fox like Seattle fans do Kaepernick and Harbaugh. There was no "best rivalry in the NFL" business against Carolina, actually no rivalry IIRC. There couldn't be a more intimidating atmosphere for any team to play against than the one San Francisco will face Sunday. If they happen to somehow win this game, they will have earned it.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

I'd like to see more flags for the post-play taunting and fighting and less flags for the questionable PI calls.

I hope they start calling unsportsmanlike conduct every time a WR calls for a penalty.

so every incompletion?

If that's what it takes.

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

My wife won a pair of tickets today on ESPN Seattle radio.

 

[[icon]]

Please keep the discussion going about what it will be like when Seattle plays NE in the superbowl.

TIA

SF vs DEN IMO

 

[[icon]]

Please keep the discussion going about what it will be like when Seattle plays NE in the superbowl.

TIA

You should talk to the guy who already got a Seahawks Superbowl Champs tattoo.

:seahawkfans:

figures the dude is 500lbs

:seahawkfans:

 

[seahawk 17]

First shots fired by Carlos Rogers...

''Once we start winning, the first points on the board, that will take all the fans out of it,'' said Rogers, who participated in his first practice after missing the last two playoff games with a strained right hamstring. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/49ers-must-ways-deal-seattle-221504867--nfl.html