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***Official*** NFL Draft Thread 2005 (1 Viewer)
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diesel7982
Footballguy
Would be a great fit but they won't pass on Barron/Barnes. that much I feel confident about.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Green Bay has Brett Favre.Oakland has Kerry Collins.While I agree GB wants to win now, I dont think you pass on the value of Rodgers at 24.Raiders at 26 makes no sense. Rodgers doesnt fit Davis' idea of a QB, they have a huge amount of money tied up in Collins, and Turner needs help now, not in the future.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.Rodgers to Dallas at 20?
If you think Rodgers to Oakland makes no sense...
If he doesn't go the Raiders, he slips out of the first round. Every team picking after Oakland has a star QB locked up for years.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
We'll see, I know that Henson isn't the guy, they have Drew freaken Bledsoe right now, good for a year, 2 at max. It would be hard to pass up the guy at 20 when 2 weeks ago he was No.1 overall.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Unless you think Aaron Rodgers is going to lead Dallas to the SB this year or next year, I see no reason for Parcells to take Aaron Rodgers.We'll see, I know that Henson isn't the guy, they have Drew freaken Bledsoe right now, good for a year, 2 at max. It would be hard to pass up the guy at 20 when 2 weeks ago he was No.1 overall.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.
If that's the case, poor planning by the Panther's brass.I know they (CAR) met with Georgia product Thomas Davis, I'm not sure they met with Derrck Johnson, because they didn't expect to see him at #14. I think because of that, they were aware of Davis' intentions, heart, mettle, etc. and weren't as aware of Johnson's needs, wants, desires, etc. There's nothing wrong with taking a Safety here.
Interesting pick, but at least they didn't select Aaron Rogers.
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
If he hires the Postons, I'm sure they'll fight for top-overall-pick money for himWe'll see, I know that Henson isn't the guy, they have Drew freaken Bledsoe right now, good for a year, 2 at max. It would be hard to pass up the guy at 20 when 2 weeks ago he was No.1 overall.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.
CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
If Clayton lasts to San Diego at 28, they're going to be set for awhile...
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Except for New England. Things have not been going well in the Brady contract extension talks. Bill B. might take him just based on the value he would get in this slot, but I'm not sure Brady would like it too much. Brady had two years left on his contract.Green Bay has Brett Favre.Oakland has Kerry Collins.While I agree GB wants to win now, I dont think you pass on the value of Rodgers at 24.Raiders at 26 makes no sense. Rodgers doesnt fit Davis' idea of a QB, they have a huge amount of money tied up in Collins, and Turner needs help now, not in the future.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.
If you think Rodgers to Oakland makes no sense...
If he doesn't go the Raiders, he slips out of the first round. Every team picking after Oakland has a star QB locked up for years.
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
If he hires the Postons, I'm sure they'll fight for top-overall-pick money for himWe'll see, I know that Henson isn't the guy, they have Drew freaken Bledsoe right now, good for a year, 2 at max. It would be hard to pass up the guy at 20 when 2 weeks ago he was No.1 overall.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.
Soldier II
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
That's what I like about him... he looks at this guy as a football player and says the equivalent of "I don't care what those cards you're holding say about him playing linebacker. I don't want to go over the middle if that guy is laying back there at safety, 'cause he'd knock the crap out of me." That's good info.I agree, but I wonder if in Mortensen-speak, "Alright, dude" = "Shut up. You don't know what you're talking about"?Ol' Chris didn't like Torry harping on Davis staying at safety.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I thought about that David, but since Brady is the higher power and controls the world, this seems impossible.Except for New England. Things have not been going well in the Brady contract extension talks. Bill B. might take him just based on the value he would get in this slot, but I'm not sure Brady would like it too much. Brady had two years left on his contract.Green Bay has Brett Favre.Oakland has Kerry Collins.While I agree GB wants to win now, I dont think you pass on the value of Rodgers at 24.Raiders at 26 makes no sense. Rodgers doesnt fit Davis' idea of a QB, they have a huge amount of money tied up in Collins, and Turner needs help now, not in the future.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.
If you think Rodgers to Oakland makes no sense...
If he doesn't go the Raiders, he slips out of the first round. Every team picking after Oakland has a star QB locked up for years.
CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
I'd imagine not, but then I didn't think Derrick Johnson would last this long.And... here he is. Nice timing.
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John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
15th Pick - Kansas City select - Derrick Johnson LB
Definitely. Torry should have shot back, "Alright dude, why don't you try going over the middle against a guy like that sometime? Or would you wait for 'sources' to tell you it was okay?"That would have been great TV.That's what I like about him... he looks at this guy as a football player and says the equivalent of "I don't care what those cards you're holding say about him playing linebacker. I don't want to go over the middle if that guy is laying back there at safety, 'cause he'd knock the crap out of me." That's good info.I agree, but I wonder if in Mortensen-speak, "Alright, dude" = "Shut up. You don't know what you're talking about"?Ol' Chris didn't like Torry harping on Davis staying at safety.
CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
I agree. Nice pickup for the Chiefs.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Houston (Carr) and Cincinnati (Palmer) are up. They both took QBs at 1.01 recently, and both have made first round trades recently (Cincinnati last year IIRC, Houston earlier today).Does someone trade up for Rodgers now?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Maybe the 49ers take Rodgers at 2.01...and either trade Alex Smith or have them battle for the top position
.CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
Why bother? Unless Dallas takes him, he's going to slide even more.
Footballhead
WWPRD?
Fantastic!!!
CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
They could probably trade Smith's rights to Saban for their entire draft next year.Maybe the 49ers take Rodgers at 2.01...and either trade Alex Smith or have them battle for the top position
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Parcells might not, but Jones who will be around longer than him might see the value in the pick. I'm not saying they will for sure, but eyebrows certainly have to be raised Chase.Unless you think Aaron Rodgers is going to lead Dallas to the SB this year or next year, I see no reason for Parcells to take Aaron Rodgers.We'll see, I know that Henson isn't the guy, they have Drew freaken Bledsoe right now, good for a year, 2 at max. It would be hard to pass up the guy at 20 when 2 weeks ago he was No.1 overall.No way.I stand by what I wrote earlier...Rodgers to the Raiders at 26.
CaptainHucklebuck
Ancient Chinese Secret
Congratulations. Now just go to a pro bowl or two, and you're one up on Holt.
If Rodgers somehow lasts to 2.03, the folks in Miami are gonna feel stupid giving up that pick for Feeley last year. Of course, there's no way he gets past Cleveland at 2.02. IMHO, he goes late first.Maybe the 49ers take Rodgers at 2.01...and either trade Alex Smith or have them battle for the top position
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I wonder if Rodgers' height (6-1/6-2) has to do with this drop.
SofaKings.
Footballguy
What up Bent. What are you drinking this afternoon?
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
A pregnant woman?
diesel7982
Footballguy
Maybe the Eagles come up and get Barron to groom behind Thomas?
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Someone come up to get Travis Johnson ahead of Cincy (since damn near every Mock had them taking him)?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I'm thinking Rodgers probably should have offered SF a very nice hometown discount.
diesel7982
Footballguy
Johnson isnt going to go top 25, IMO. Character and work ethic issues. If someone is coming up, its likely for Barron or Spears.
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