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GoFishTN said:
belljr said:
so explain the 2ds to me.... itcan play all 3ds and ds games.... isnt it just a 3ds with 3d turned off?
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That's what it looked like to me. Lower price tag too.
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after thinking about it it's not a bad idea there's a lot of games my daughter wants to play but you had the regular ds and they made game only for 3 d s
 
The 2DS Is a 3DS w no 3D capabilities. It's just another option for people to have - basically a cheaper version of the 3DS.

 
GoFishTN said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
GoFishTN said:
belljr said:
so explain the 2ds to me.... itcan play all 3ds and ds games.... isnt it just a 3ds with 3d turned off?
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That's what it looked like to me. Lower price tag too.
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I'm not a college professor, but I'm fairly certain this is incorrect.
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How so?
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Well apparently you can now.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/28/nintendo-announces-new-3ds-model-that-plays-all-3ds-and-ds-games-in-2d/

 
Hmm. The 2DS looks like it'll find its way into my home this Christmas. My kids each have a DS Lite. Backward compatible with DS games, and pretty cheap? Hell yes.

 
Are people happy with the Wii U? My wife is thinking about buying one for our family. Before dropping the $$$, just want to make sure it is working out!

Sux that Minecraft won't make it over!

TIA,

 
Mr. Ected said:
Are people happy with the Wii U? My wife is thinking about buying one for our family. Before dropping the $$$, just want to make sure it is working out!

Sux that Minecraft won't make it over!

TIA,
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I just don't see anyone buying them. I can't explain why. The premise sounds good, but execution and marketing of the product is a big fat failure. The price drop takes effect today. We'll see if selling the deluxe unit for $299 will be enough to move them.

 
Do you guys have the 8g or the 32g? Does that make a big difference? The cost is ~$30. Can I just put a 32g SD chip in boom, we're covered?

 
Mr. Ected said:
Do you guys have the 8g or the 32g? Does that make a big difference? The cost is ~$30. Can I just put a 32g SD chip in boom, we're covered?
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The 8 GB one is discontinued. Nintendo recalled all non-sold units and have now converted them. Nothing's wrong with the system. Just that they weren't selling and Nintendo was preparing for price drop.

 
SlaX said:
Mr. Ected said:
Do you guys have the 8g or the 32g? Does that make a big difference? The cost is ~$30. Can I just put a 32g SD chip in boom, we're covered?
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The 8 GB one is discontinued. Nintendo recalled all non-sold units and have now converted them. Nothing's wrong with the system. Just that they weren't selling and Nintendo was preparing for price drop.
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Interesting, it is still on at Amazon, and it is the one for $299 (They list less than a couple dozen). The 32g is listed at ~$330. I will be waiting a couple days so I will be looking for the price drop!! Thanks!

 
Mr. Ected said:
SlaX said:
Mr. Ected said:
Do you guys have the 8g or the 32g? Does that make a big difference? The cost is ~$30. Can I just put a 32g SD chip in boom, we're covered?
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The 8 GB one is discontinued. Nintendo recalled all non-sold units and have now converted them. Nothing's wrong with the system. Just that they weren't selling and Nintendo was preparing for price drop.
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Interesting, it is still on at Amazon, and it is the one for $299 (They list less than a couple dozen). The 32g is listed at ~$330. I will be waiting a couple days so I will be looking for the price drop!! Thanks!
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Don't pay more than $300 for the deluxe edition. Price drop should have went into effect today. Also, if you want the Zelda: Wind Waker bundle, then it should be no more than $300 also.

 
My 7 and 5 years olds have been saving up to upgrade from our 7 year old Wii to the new Wii U. They're about $100 away and should cover that ground with some toys they'll be selling off in the next few weeks. Their favorite games, really the only ones they play, are: Skylanders, Super Mario Bros Series, and Mariokart. They also have 3Ds's from Christmas where they also like the Nintendo / Mario games. They want to get and play Disney Infinity which I hear is bad on the original Wii and that the Wii U port of the game is the best of all consols.

So, do you think its a good idea for them to go and spend $400 on the Wii U and accessories or should we take a hard look at the other systems like Xbox and PS? I really haven't becasue I thought Nintendo would have a better library of games for their age.

And what's the deal with the big iPad controller? Do smaller kids like my 5 year old have a problem using it? It seems like you can only use one and they can't both get the big screen one? So the other uses a regular Wii Wiimote? Have you guys had kids in fights over these? Does is suck for the kid without the big controller?

Just looking for any input before my kids go out and spend all their money.

TIA!

 
I don't have answers for some of those, Lehigh, but I can say that Nintendo specifically made the Wii U to be able to use 2 Wii U tablet controllers (or is at least planned in a future software update). With that said, the controller has not been available to buy separately yet and no games support two tablet controllers yet. Will they fight over it? I gauge probability at 91%.

 
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I would pass on the system. The games that are multiplatform are really dumbed down on the Wii U. Some games are not even available on the WII U. It's just a souped up Wii.

 
Was thinking of upgrading to Wii U for my kids this Christmas...after reading this article I'm not so sure anymore...

Nintendo Could Be Forced to Discontinue the Wii U Next Year by Sam Mattera, The Motley Fool Nov 10th 2013 4:15PM
Updated Nov 10th 2013 4:16PMDiscontinuing video-game consoles is far from unprecedented. Sega released, and then rapidly abandoned, four consoles between 1992 and 1999, before ultimately exiting the hardware business entirely. has had its own failure -- it gave up on the Virtual Boy after just seven months.

Is the Wii U next? The console's first year on the market has been abysmal -- Nintendo has shipped just 4 million Wii U units, far short of its own expectations. After cutting the price, Nintendo is now selling the Wii U at a loss, and sales are unlikely to improve in the face of rising competition from Microsoft and Sony .

The Wii U has been a total failure

The failure of the Wii U is no secret. Originally, Nintendo had expected to sell 5 million consoles by last March -- but by the end of September, Nintendo had shipped fewer than 4 million units. In an effort to juice sales, Nintendo cut the Wii U's price by $50 in late August, leading to a 200% sales jump in September. But when the base number is so low, large percentage increases look better than they really are. Even with the spike in sales, Nintendo sold just 300,000 consoles from July through September.

Nintendo's management still believes that it can sell 9 million Wii U consoles by the end of March. That seems utterly insane in light of the increased competition Nintendo's console will face in the next few weeks.

Microsoft will steal Nintendo's core market

In less than two weeks, Microsoft's Xbox One will go on sale. At $500, it's far more expensive than the Wii U's $300, but for the money, Microsoft's machine provides far more value. In addition to serving as a true next-generation video-game console, the Xbox One is packed with entertainment features that could appeal strongly to Nintendo's core market.

The original Wii was massively successful in large part because it appealed to casual gamers. Although the Wii had its fair share of core Nintendo franchises, its best-selling games were titles such as Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, and Wii Fit. Rather than rely on buttons, these games used simple motion controls, making them accessible to non-gamers.

Microsoft's Xbox One should tap into this market. Unlike the first Kinect, an optional add-on for the Xbox 360, Microsoft's second-generation Kinect is included with all consoles, which should lead to more developer support. Similar to the Wii, Kinect-based games use body movement instead of button-mashing, making them far easier to play.

Certainly, for those who bought Wii Fit, the Xbox One should be enticing. Microsoft has partnered with a number of famous trainers for Xbox Fitness -- interactive workout videos that rely on the Kinect's technical capabilities.

Unlike Sony, Nintendo can't afford to support a failing console

Losing the casual gamer would hurt, but the bigger threat to the survival of the Wii U as a platform is Nintendo itself. Nintendo is unique in the sense that it's the only console maker that's strictly a video-game company -- it can not afford to subsidy losing hardware for very long.

In contrast, Sony, as an enormous conglomerate, can. The PlayStation 3 sold poorly at launch, and Sony lost money on the console, but it was able to stick by its machine for the long-haul. Indeed, by taking a loss on the PlayStation 3, Sony was able to support another part of its business -- its Blu-ray technology beat out the rival HD DVD, as early PlayStation 3s doubled as cheap Blu-ray players.

Sony will sell its PlayStation 4 at a loss as well, though the company expects to recoup the loss on games and PS+ subscriptions. At any rate, Sony's PlayStation 4 is even more competition for Nintendo's Wii U. Like the Xbox One, it will go on sale later this month, but unlike the Xbox One, it's only $100 more expensive than the Wii U.

This holiday season will be crucial for Nintendo

On Nintendo's last earnings call, the company's president, Satoru Iwata, characterized the upcoming holiday shopping season as crucial, remarking that Nintendo would evaluate what it needs to do, "over the long term, about its platform" once the holiday results were in.

That could mean discontinuing the Wii U. Given that Nintendo's console will have to compete with two new machines from both Sony and Microsoft, the Wii U's holiday sales aren't likely to be good.
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I like the system. It's fun to play games with family over, etc.

But I'm gonna be forced into a ps4 because of the no EA thing.

 
wadegarrett said:
Was thinking of upgrading to Wii U for my kids this Christmas...after reading this article I'm not so sure anymore...

Nintendo Could Be Forced to Discontinue the Wii U Next Year by Sam Mattera, The Motley Fool Nov 10th 2013 4:15PMUpdated Nov 10th 2013 4:16PM

Discontinuing video-game consoles is far from unprecedented. Sega released, and then rapidly abandoned, four consoles between 1992 and 1999, before ultimately exiting the hardware business entirely. has had its own failure -- it gave up on the Virtual Boy after just seven months.

Is the Wii U next? The console's first year on the market has been abysmal -- Nintendo has shipped just 4 million Wii U units, far short of its own expectations. After cutting the price, Nintendo is now selling the Wii U at a loss, and sales are unlikely to improve in the face of rising competition from Microsoft and Sony .

The Wii U has been a total failure

The failure of the Wii U is no secret. Originally, Nintendo had expected to sell 5 million consoles by last March -- but by the end of September, Nintendo had shipped fewer than 4 million units. In an effort to juice sales, Nintendo cut the Wii U's price by $50 in late August, leading to a 200% sales jump in September. But when the base number is so low, large percentage increases look better than they really are. Even with the spike in sales, Nintendo sold just 300,000 consoles from July through September.

Nintendo's management still believes that it can sell 9 million Wii U consoles by the end of March. That seems utterly insane in light of the increased competition Nintendo's console will face in the next few weeks.

Microsoft will steal Nintendo's core market

In less than two weeks, Microsoft's Xbox One will go on sale. At $500, it's far more expensive than the Wii U's $300, but for the money, Microsoft's machine provides far more value. In addition to serving as a true next-generation video-game console, the Xbox One is packed with entertainment features that could appeal strongly to Nintendo's core market.

The original Wii was massively successful in large part because it appealed to casual gamers. Although the Wii had its fair share of core Nintendo franchises, its best-selling games were titles such as Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, and Wii Fit. Rather than rely on buttons, these games used simple motion controls, making them accessible to non-gamers.

Microsoft's Xbox One should tap into this market. Unlike the first Kinect, an optional add-on for the Xbox 360, Microsoft's second-generation Kinect is included with all consoles, which should lead to more developer support. Similar to the Wii, Kinect-based games use body movement instead of button-mashing, making them far easier to play.

Certainly, for those who bought Wii Fit, the Xbox One should be enticing. Microsoft has partnered with a number of famous trainers for Xbox Fitness -- interactive workout videos that rely on the Kinect's technical capabilities.

Unlike Sony, Nintendo can't afford to support a failing console

Losing the casual gamer would hurt, but the bigger threat to the survival of the Wii U as a platform is Nintendo itself. Nintendo is unique in the sense that it's the only console maker that's strictly a video-game company -- it can not afford to subsidy losing hardware for very long.

In contrast, Sony, as an enormous conglomerate, can. The PlayStation 3 sold poorly at launch, and Sony lost money on the console, but it was able to stick by its machine for the long-haul. Indeed, by taking a loss on the PlayStation 3, Sony was able to support another part of its business -- its Blu-ray technology beat out the rival HD DVD, as early PlayStation 3s doubled as cheap Blu-ray players.

Sony will sell its PlayStation 4 at a loss as well, though the company expects to recoup the loss on games and PS+ subscriptions. At any rate, Sony's PlayStation 4 is even more competition for Nintendo's Wii U. Like the Xbox One, it will go on sale later this month, but unlike the Xbox One, it's only $100 more expensive than the Wii U.

This holiday season will be crucial for Nintendo

On Nintendo's last earnings call, the company's president, Satoru Iwata, characterized the upcoming holiday shopping season as crucial, remarking that Nintendo would evaluate what it needs to do, "over the long term, about its platform" once the holiday results were in.

That could mean discontinuing the Wii U. Given that Nintendo's console will have to compete with two new machines from both Sony and Microsoft, the Wii U's holiday sales aren't likely to be good.
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Interesting that the article calls Nintendo "strictly a video game company", as Nintendo makes millions off of toys every year too. They started out as a card company and still maintain some of the same practices now as they did when they were mainly a card company. But yes, they can't afford to continue losing money from the Wii U for too long. They may need to drop it and look ahead to their next console, or focus more on the handheld market that they completely dominate in.

 
wadegarrett said:
Was thinking of upgrading to Wii U for my kids this Christmas...after reading this article I'm not so sure anymore...

Nintendo Could Be Forced to Discontinue the Wii U Next Year by Sam Mattera, The Motley Fool Nov 10th 2013 4:15PMUpdated Nov 10th 2013 4:16PM

Discontinuing video-game consoles is far from unprecedented. Sega released, and then rapidly abandoned, four consoles between 1992 and 1999, before ultimately exiting the hardware business entirely. has had its own failure -- it gave up on the Virtual Boy after just seven months.

Is the Wii U next? The console's first year on the market has been abysmal -- Nintendo has shipped just 4 million Wii U units, far short of its own expectations. After cutting the price, Nintendo is now selling the Wii U at a loss, and sales are unlikely to improve in the face of rising competition from Microsoft and Sony .

The Wii U has been a total failure

The failure of the Wii U is no secret. Originally, Nintendo had expected to sell 5 million consoles by last March -- but by the end of September, Nintendo had shipped fewer than 4 million units. In an effort to juice sales, Nintendo cut the Wii U's price by $50 in late August, leading to a 200% sales jump in September. But when the base number is so low, large percentage increases look better than they really are. Even with the spike in sales, Nintendo sold just 300,000 consoles from July through September.

Nintendo's management still believes that it can sell 9 million Wii U consoles by the end of March. That seems utterly insane in light of the increased competition Nintendo's console will face in the next few weeks.

Microsoft will steal Nintendo's core market

In less than two weeks, Microsoft's Xbox One will go on sale. At $500, it's far more expensive than the Wii U's $300, but for the money, Microsoft's machine provides far more value. In addition to serving as a true next-generation video-game console, the Xbox One is packed with entertainment features that could appeal strongly to Nintendo's core market.

The original Wii was massively successful in large part because it appealed to casual gamers. Although the Wii had its fair share of core Nintendo franchises, its best-selling games were titles such as Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, and Wii Fit. Rather than rely on buttons, these games used simple motion controls, making them accessible to non-gamers.

Microsoft's Xbox One should tap into this market. Unlike the first Kinect, an optional add-on for the Xbox 360, Microsoft's second-generation Kinect is included with all consoles, which should lead to more developer support. Similar to the Wii, Kinect-based games use body movement instead of button-mashing, making them far easier to play.

Certainly, for those who bought Wii Fit, the Xbox One should be enticing. Microsoft has partnered with a number of famous trainers for Xbox Fitness -- interactive workout videos that rely on the Kinect's technical capabilities.

Unlike Sony, Nintendo can't afford to support a failing console

Losing the casual gamer would hurt, but the bigger threat to the survival of the Wii U as a platform is Nintendo itself. Nintendo is unique in the sense that it's the only console maker that's strictly a video-game company -- it can not afford to subsidy losing hardware for very long.

In contrast, Sony, as an enormous conglomerate, can. The PlayStation 3 sold poorly at launch, and Sony lost money on the console, but it was able to stick by its machine for the long-haul. Indeed, by taking a loss on the PlayStation 3, Sony was able to support another part of its business -- its Blu-ray technology beat out the rival HD DVD, as early PlayStation 3s doubled as cheap Blu-ray players.

Sony will sell its PlayStation 4 at a loss as well, though the company expects to recoup the loss on games and PS+ subscriptions. At any rate, Sony's PlayStation 4 is even more competition for Nintendo's Wii U. Like the Xbox One, it will go on sale later this month, but unlike the Xbox One, it's only $100 more expensive than the Wii U.

This holiday season will be crucial for Nintendo

On Nintendo's last earnings call, the company's president, Satoru Iwata, characterized the upcoming holiday shopping season as crucial, remarking that Nintendo would evaluate what it needs to do, "over the long term, about its platform" once the holiday results were in.

That could mean discontinuing the Wii U. Given that Nintendo's console will have to compete with two new machines from both Sony and Microsoft, the Wii U's holiday sales aren't likely to be good.
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I disagree that the Xbox will take away their core market. If you look at the best selling titles on the Wii it's not just casual gamers, it's people buying Mario games. Once there's a killer Mario title, the system will sell.

 
In all honesty, I think their biggest blunder was that controller.

Nintendo had a big demo of the WiiU at a local mall and my very first question was "How much a second ( large ) controller?" Then the kid told me they weren't selling them separately.

As a father of two - that answer IMMEDIATELY disqualified the WiiU as a purchase because they would fight over who got the "good" controller.

 
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STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
In all honesty, I think their biggest blunder was that controller.

Nintendo had a big demo of the WiiU at a local mall and my very first question was "How much a second ( large ) controller?" Then the kid told me they weren't selling them separately.

As a father of two - that answer IMMEDIATELY disqualified the WiiU as a purchase because they would fight over who got the "good" controller.
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:goodposting:

Throw a third in and it is World War!!! ;)

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
In all honesty, I think their biggest blunder was that controller.

Nintendo had a big demo of the WiiU at a local mall and my very first question was how much a second ( large ) controller and the kid told me they weren't selling them separately.

As a father of two - that answer IMMEDIATELY disqualified the WiiU as a purchase because they would fight over who got the "good" controller.
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Yeah, I am concerned with that too. If I understand correctly though they sell them in Japan, so I assume they will sell them here eventually.

 
The problem with the new Xbox and PSWhatever is they are just too expensive. I liked this one because it fit in with what i wanted to spend. Is the 360 still valuable? Will the release of these new ones drive the 360 price down?

I also have a broken Wii that I can fix or get fixed.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
In all honesty, I think their biggest blunder was that controller.

Nintendo had a big demo of the WiiU at a local mall and my very first question was "How much a second ( large ) controller?" Then the kid told me they weren't selling them separately.

As a father of two - that answer IMMEDIATELY disqualified the WiiU as a purchase because they would fight over who got the "good" controller.
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Even with adults, people are like "hey I want to use that one."

Not selling that remote is a business decision I can't grasp.

 
Premier said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
In all honesty, I think their biggest blunder was that controller.

Nintendo had a big demo of the WiiU at a local mall and my very first question was "How much a second ( large ) controller?" Then the kid told me they weren't selling them separately.

As a father of two - that answer IMMEDIATELY disqualified the WiiU as a purchase because they would fight over who got the "good" controller.
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Even with adults, people are like "hey I want to use that one."

Not selling that remote is a business decision I can't grasp.
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Another concern I had was...since they weren't selling them....how durable are they in the hands of a (then) 6 & 8 year old?

Nintendo usually makes indestructible controllers but Im not sure about that one.

 
BTW - Is MArioKart on timeout or something? His Nintendo pager must be going berserk every time we post something remotely negative about Nintendo. .

 
Mr. Ected said:
The problem with the new Xbox and PSWhatever is they are just too expensive. I liked this one because it fit in with what i wanted to spend. Is the 360 still valuable? Will the release of these new ones drive the 360 price down?

I also have a broken Wii that I can fix or get fixed.
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The PS4 is only $100 more than the Wii U and is on a completely different planet in terms of what it can do. Unless it's for young kids, I can't imagine dropping down that far to get something that's still 75% of the price. It's like someone turning down a Bentley for $25,000 because they can get a Corolla for $20,000.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Mr. Ected said:
The problem with the new Xbox and PSWhatever is they are just too expensive. I liked this one because it fit in with what i wanted to spend. Is the 360 still valuable? Will the release of these new ones drive the 360 price down?

I also have a broken Wii that I can fix or get fixed.
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The PS4 is only $100 more than the Wii U and is on a completely different planet in terms of what it can do. Unless it's for young kids, I can't imagine dropping down that far to get something that's still 75% of the price. It's like someone turning down a Bentley for $25,000 because they can get a Corolla for $20,000.
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Add in the cost of PS plus too.

 
If the WiiU is still around this time next year, I'll grab one for sure. For the titles I can't get on the X1.

 
Slapdash said:
FreeBaGeL said:
Mr. Ected said:
The problem with the new Xbox and PSWhatever is they are just too expensive. I liked this one because it fit in with what i wanted to spend. Is the 360 still valuable? Will the release of these new ones drive the 360 price down?

I also have a broken Wii that I can fix or get fixed.
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The PS4 is only $100 more than the Wii U and is on a completely different planet in terms of what it can do. Unless it's for young kids, I can't imagine dropping down that far to get something that's still 75% of the price. It's like someone turning down a Bentley for $25,000 because they can get a Corolla for $20,000.
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Add in the cost of PS plus too.
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That's only required for online gaming. Does online gaming even exist on the Wii? :P

 
Jobber said:
If the WiiU is still around this time next year, I'll grab one for sure. For the titles I can't get on the X1.
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I think it will be around. Sales should pick up once the big titles get released. Not sure why they released the system so far in advance instead of those.

 
Nintendo needs the games to sell it. The Zelda, Metroid, and others are missing. They need those.

Mario 3D looks promising but that is a game that should be out at launch.

And, best of all... they need a Mario Kart game. One that is on par with top racing games and not some kiddy version of what racing is. Mario Kart deserves that.

 
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