**** Official Nintendo Wii U Thread **** (1 Viewer)

[SlaX]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

I agree that it'd be expensive. Everything's speculative at this point. The only thing I know for sure is that unless Microsoft drops requiring to pay for XBox Live Gold, I won't be buying the next XBox.

 

[DrJ]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

 

[larry_boy_44]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

I agree that it'd be expensive. Everything's speculative at this point. The only thing I know for sure is that unless Microsoft drops requiring to pay for XBox Live Gold, I won't be buying the next XBox.

there's a reason the Wii had the best hardware sales numbers I saw this Holiday Season. Same reason the PS2 sold so ridiculously well for so long.Cheap is good. PS3 and XBox 360 priced them out of lots of people's living rooms for a long time. If XBox720 and PS4 drop Holiday 2014 with $500 or more price tags and WiiU drops to $250 or less, which do you think is selling better?

 

[DrJ]

It definitely holds up well vs a current 360.

Will be interesting. Glad I didn't blow my money yet the more I'm reading about this though.

 

[larry_boy_44]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

If Nintendo believed people would be willing to spend more, they'd have made the price HIGHER. Nintendo is selling it as low as it possibly can to take "acceptable" losses (Nintendo does NOT sell things at a loss, they sold 3DS at a loss for like 3-6 months after a rocky start and their initial price drop, that's the only time they've ever done it until now).Nintendo doesn't think people will spend more than $300 on a video game console, and I don't think Sony or Microsoft can get to that price point with new systems that blow Nintendo out of the water like PS3 and XBox360 did to Wii unless they are losing $500 or more per system, and they can't afford those losses.

 

[DrJ]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

I agree that it'd be expensive. Everything's speculative at this point. The only thing I know for sure is that unless Microsoft drops requiring to pay for XBox Live Gold, I won't be buying the next XBox.

there's a reason the Wii had the best hardware sales numbers I saw this Holiday Season. Same reason the PS2 sold so ridiculously well for so long.Cheap is good. PS3 and XBox 360 priced them out of lots of people's living rooms for a long time. If XBox720 and PS4 drop Holiday 2014 with $500 or more price tags and WiiU drops to $250 or less, which do you think is selling better?

I'd say it depends. If these systems don't release until 2014, you've gotten a ridiculously long time out of the 360 and PS3, much more of a lifespan than the original Wii. The Wii U will be almost halfway through it's lifespan by that time using the original Wii as a baseline.

 

[SlaX]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

If Nintendo believed people would be willing to spend more, they'd have made the price HIGHER. Nintendo is selling it as low as it possibly can to take "acceptable" losses (Nintendo does NOT sell things at a loss, they sold 3DS at a loss for like 3-6 months after a rocky start and their initial price drop, that's the only time they've ever done it until now).Nintendo doesn't think people will spend more than $300 on a video game console, and I don't think Sony or Microsoft can get to that price point with new systems that blow Nintendo out of the water like PS3 and XBox360 did to Wii unless they are losing $500 or more per system, and they can't afford those losses.

The WiiU is the first Nintendo console sold at a loss. However, one attachment brings it into the black. Yes, just buying one game. Nintendo does a good job at that and is why even if the WiiU fails, it won't be the end of Nintendo.

 

[DrJ]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

If Nintendo believed people would be willing to spend more, they'd have made the price HIGHER. Nintendo is selling it as low as it possibly can to take "acceptable" losses (Nintendo does NOT sell things at a loss, they sold 3DS at a loss for like 3-6 months after a rocky start and their initial price drop, that's the only time they've ever done it until now).Nintendo doesn't think people will spend more than $300 on a video game console, and I don't think Sony or Microsoft can get to that price point with new systems that blow Nintendo out of the water like PS3 and XBox360 did to Wii unless they are losing $500 or more per system, and they can't afford those losses.

They're sitting on the shelves at their current price - there's no reason for them to believe people would be willing to spend more for a Wii U. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be willing to spend more on something better though, and it could very well be an implication that Nintendo missed with this thing. One example is that these people are willing to spend far more on an iPad. Time will tell.

 

[larry_boy_44]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

If Nintendo believed people would be willing to spend more, they'd have made the price HIGHER. Nintendo is selling it as low as it possibly can to take "acceptable" losses (Nintendo does NOT sell things at a loss, they sold 3DS at a loss for like 3-6 months after a rocky start and their initial price drop, that's the only time they've ever done it until now).Nintendo doesn't think people will spend more than $300 on a video game console, and I don't think Sony or Microsoft can get to that price point with new systems that blow Nintendo out of the water like PS3 and XBox360 did to Wii unless they are losing $500 or more per system, and they can't afford those losses.

The WiiU is the first Nintendo console sold at a loss. However, one attachment brings it into the black. Yes, just buying one game. Nintendo does a good job at that and is why even if the WiiU fails, it won't be the end of Nintendo.

 

[larry_boy_44]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

If Nintendo believed people would be willing to spend more, they'd have made the price HIGHER. Nintendo is selling it as low as it possibly can to take "acceptable" losses (Nintendo does NOT sell things at a loss, they sold 3DS at a loss for like 3-6 months after a rocky start and their initial price drop, that's the only time they've ever done it until now).Nintendo doesn't think people will spend more than $300 on a video game console, and I don't think Sony or Microsoft can get to that price point with new systems that blow Nintendo out of the water like PS3 and XBox360 did to Wii unless they are losing $500 or more per system, and they can't afford those losses.

They're sitting on the shelves at their current price - there's no reason for them to believe people would be willing to spend more for a Wii U. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be willing to spend more on something better though, and it could very well be an implication that Nintendo missed with this thing. One example is that these people are willing to spend far more on an iPad. Time will tell.

Are they out selling PS3s and XBox 360s?How are initial WiiU sales comparing to other launch sales?You say hardware being on a shelf is a bad sign, but really from what I've been reading it just means Nintendo made more hardware than they had to and WANTED hardware on the shelves.You only want your hardware to be sold out if you want to create artificial demand to drive up prices because you are losing money, Nintendo isn't losing that much money on systems (and one game sales puts them in black), which means they want to keep every store stocked with game systems at all times because they want to make sure everyone who might buy one has an opportunity to buy one.

 

[DrJ]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

If Nintendo believed people would be willing to spend more, they'd have made the price HIGHER. Nintendo is selling it as low as it possibly can to take "acceptable" losses (Nintendo does NOT sell things at a loss, they sold 3DS at a loss for like 3-6 months after a rocky start and their initial price drop, that's the only time they've ever done it until now).Nintendo doesn't think people will spend more than $300 on a video game console, and I don't think Sony or Microsoft can get to that price point with new systems that blow Nintendo out of the water like PS3 and XBox360 did to Wii unless they are losing $500 or more per system, and they can't afford those losses.

They're sitting on the shelves at their current price - there's no reason for them to believe people would be willing to spend more for a Wii U. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be willing to spend more on something better though, and it could very well be an implication that Nintendo missed with this thing. One example is that these people are willing to spend far more on an iPad. Time will tell.

Are they out selling PS3s and XBox 360s?How are initial WiiU sales comparing to other launch sales?You say hardware being on a shelf is a bad sign, but really from what I've been reading it just means Nintendo made more hardware than they had to and WANTED hardware on the shelves.You only want your hardware to be sold out if you want to create artificial demand to drive up prices because you are losing money, Nintendo isn't losing that much money on systems (and one game sales puts them in black), which means they want to keep every store stocked with game systems at all times because they want to make sure everyone who might buy one has an opportunity to buy one.

It doesn't appear that they are. Microsoft is claiming they sold twice as many 360's as Wii U's during black friday week, which also happened to be launch week for the Wii U. http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/27/microsoft-xbox-360-sales-black-friday-2012/

 

[Premier]

I've really enjoyed it so far. Nintendo Land is fun to play with friends, and if you ever liked Mario I have no idea why you wouldn't like this one. It's a way more fun version of every Mario game I've ever played. And getting the "boost mode" from the person using the game pad is a trip.

Very fun system. I also really like the ninja game on Nintendo land.

 

[DrJ]

Also notable, when I was debating whether to get one myself, I saw someone suggest they bought it during launch week with the intention of selling it online for profit. When they found they could only make about $50, they decided to keep it. Over a year after the Wii launch you couldn't find them. I was subscribed to the Wii tracker and was buying them up and selling them for $400 a pop. I ended up with a couple of free Wii's out of the deal and gave them to my parents for Xmas.

Not saying this is the end of the world or anything, launch sales are only one indicator and the main reason Nintendo seems to have brought something to market so quickly in comparison is because their sales of the Wii basically fell off of a cliff despite its red hot status for the first couple years. It was selling like 11 million in 2009 and was at about half of that by 2011 (like many people were suggesting would happen as you were touting the Wii and its sales over this first couple years). It'll be a long time before this is decided, and Nintendo isn't going to go under on the thing, but it's definitely not getting nearly the hype or attention that their previous consoles did. I can't imagine why anyone would consider that a good thing.

 

[larry_boy_44]

http://gearburn.com/2012/12/why-the-wii-u-is-the-best-console-of-2012/

50% more powerful than Wii? That seems pretty bad, have they heard of Moore's law? How is someone going to port something designed for an Xbox 720 or PS4 over to this without a pile of effort? That's not going to help their issues with 3rd party devs.

no one has any idea what those systems are going to do, and going by what people seem willing to spend on video game systems, there is no way that those systems are that much of a graphical leap above the Wii U.and no one knows how much more powerful the Wii is than anything else, Nintendo hasn't released official #s for its specs, anything you read that says anything concrete is speculation.

I keep hearing that Microsoft and especially Sony are looking for their next console to support Ultra HD.

yeah, but how much is it going to cost? Microsoft and Sony both lost a ton of money on the launch of PS3 and XBox360 (this is the first time Nintendo has EVER lost money on a launch of a system, and I'd be surprised if they are losing much).If they come out with $600 systems again, they're gonna bomb. And I don't see them going much past the Wii U without either giving it a 2 or 3 year head start or making it ridiculously expensive.

Why would they bomb if they didn't bomb last time at that price point? Nintendo's price point here is a lot higher than the original Wii was, so they seem to be suggesting they believe people are willing to spend more than they did last time around.

If Nintendo believed people would be willing to spend more, they'd have made the price HIGHER. Nintendo is selling it as low as it possibly can to take "acceptable" losses (Nintendo does NOT sell things at a loss, they sold 3DS at a loss for like 3-6 months after a rocky start and their initial price drop, that's the only time they've ever done it until now).Nintendo doesn't think people will spend more than $300 on a video game console, and I don't think Sony or Microsoft can get to that price point with new systems that blow Nintendo out of the water like PS3 and XBox360 did to Wii unless they are losing $500 or more per system, and they can't afford those losses.

They're sitting on the shelves at their current price - there's no reason for them to believe people would be willing to spend more for a Wii U. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be willing to spend more on something better though, and it could very well be an implication that Nintendo missed with this thing. One example is that these people are willing to spend far more on an iPad. Time will tell.

Are they out selling PS3s and XBox 360s?How are initial WiiU sales comparing to other launch sales?You say hardware being on a shelf is a bad sign, but really from what I've been reading it just means Nintendo made more hardware than they had to and WANTED hardware on the shelves.You only want your hardware to be sold out if you want to create artificial demand to drive up prices because you are losing money, Nintendo isn't losing that much money on systems (and one game sales puts them in black), which means they want to keep every store stocked with game systems at all times because they want to make sure everyone who might buy one has an opportunity to buy one.

It doesn't appear that they are. Microsoft is claiming they sold twice as many 360's as Wii U's during black friday week, which also happened to be launch week for the Wii U. http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/27/microsoft-xbox-360-sales-black-friday-2012/

WiiU was 100% sold out probably before Thanksgiving, of course it had bad Black Friday sales, no one had any.Everything I have seen shows that WiiU's launch sales have been pretty in line with every other launch (they're just keeping up with demand better than most).

 

[larry_boy_44]

Very fun system. I also really like the ninja game on Nintendo land.

how far have you gotten? I think I've gotten to the third area, its crazy how challenging it actually is to keep track of everything...

 

[Premier]

Very fun system. I also really like the ninja game on Nintendo land.

how far have you gotten? I think I've gotten to the third area, its crazy how challenging it actually is to keep track of everything...

Second. Then with family here this week we put that down to play Mario. 4 people playing Mario at one time = howling laughter. One of the people playing was super horrible and died about every 19 seconds. Very fun.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Also notable, when I was debating whether to get one myself, I saw someone suggest they bought it during launch week with the intention of selling it online for profit. When they found they could only make about $50, they decided to keep it. Over a year after the Wii launch you couldn't find them. I was subscribed to the Wii tracker and was buying them up and selling them for $400 a pop. I ended up with a couple of free Wii's out of the deal and gave them to my parents for Xmas. Not saying this is the end of the world or anything, launch sales are only one indicator and the main reason Nintendo seems to have brought something to market so quickly in comparison is because their sales of the Wii basically fell off of a cliff despite its red hot status for the first couple years. It was selling like 11 million in 2009 and was at about half of that by 2011 (like many people were suggesting would happen as you were touting the Wii and its sales over this first couple years). It'll be a long time before this is decided, and Nintendo isn't going to go under on the thing, but it's definitely not getting nearly the hype or attention that their previous consoles did. I can't imagine why anyone would consider that a good thing.

The biggest issue, though, is that I'm pretty sure that Nintendo made more money off the Wii than Microsoft or Sony did off XBox360 or PS3.They never sold one thing for those systems that lost them a dime, they were making profit the day they released it. Microsoft and Sony didn't get out of the hole for years after launch.

 

[Premier]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

actually, Nintendo is the only one that realistically could sell so few units that they went out of business.If, for instance, the WiiU was a Virtual Boy level flop, they'd go out of business on some level. (See: Sega)

 

[DrJ]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

 

[Hawks64]

WiiU was 100% sold out probably before Thanksgiving, of course it had bad Black Friday sales, no one had any.Everything I have seen shows that WiiU's launch sales have been pretty in line with every other launch (they're just keeping up with demand better than most).

Fanboys suck. Funny that a TRU employee who posts here said they haven't had a stock issue with the WiiU since it's release. I played around with one and that controller sucks. It's a cool concept but poorly executed IMO. The latest rumors have the new Xbox release in 2013.

 

[Premier]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

I get that first point, but this is Nintendo's main platform for the next 3-4 years, so I have no worries about it getting plenty of games. I'm excited to see what they can develop to go with the new controller.

 

[Hawks64]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

I get that first point, but this is Nintendo's main platform for the next 3-4 years, so I have no worries about it getting plenty of games. I'm excited to see what they can develop to go with the new controller.

Do you really like that controller? It felt incredible awkward holding it.

 

[Premier]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

I get that first point, but this is Nintendo's main platform for the next 3-4 years, so I have no worries about it getting plenty of games. I'm excited to see what they can develop to go with the new controller.

Do you really like that controller? It felt incredible awkward holding it.

Yea I do. No worries with it at all. If you are playing with multiple people it really does add a different dimension to the games.Plus, you can always use an old Wii remote or buy a new one if you don't like it. They sell one that looks like a traditional PS3 style remote.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

I get that first point, but this is Nintendo's main platform for the next 3-4 years, so I have no worries about it getting plenty of games. I'm excited to see what they can develop to go with the new controller.

Do you really like that controller? It felt incredible awkward holding it.

how long did you play it and what game(s) did you play with it?(and if you played Nintendo Land, which attractions?)I ask because it was awkward for me (and the other people I've seen playing it) at first, too. But you get used to it fast and it does some pretty cool stuff when you get the hang of it. (or at least the people I've played with thought so)

 

[larry_boy_44]

Did you guys buy screen protectors for it? Do you think they're necessary?

 

[DrJ]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

I get that first point, but this is Nintendo's main platform for the next 3-4 years, so I have no worries about it getting plenty of games. I'm excited to see what they can develop to go with the new controller.

I'm guessing that I'll get sucked into owning one eventually. Kids don't play anything on my PS3 or Xbox. I really don't touch the Wii unless I'm playing something with them. At the same time, they use the iPads about 10 times more than the Wii anyways so there may be some chance I can escape it. I imagine that tablets capturing a big portion of that casual gamer market probably played a part in what happened to the Wii. We'll see if this can attract enough of the hard core gamers to remain viable long term.

 

[Hawks64]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

I get that first point, but this is Nintendo's main platform for the next 3-4 years, so I have no worries about it getting plenty of games. I'm excited to see what they can develop to go with the new controller.

Do you really like that controller? It felt incredible awkward holding it.

how long did you play it and what game(s) did you play with it?(and if you played Nintendo Land, which attractions?)I ask because it was awkward for me (and the other people I've seen playing it) at first, too. But you get used to it fast and it does some pretty cool stuff when you get the hang of it. (or at least the people I've played with thought so)

Not terribly long, but what I didn't like was how extended my wrists had to be to use the shoulder buttons vs a xbox or ps3 controller. Very interesting concept but for me it was very awkward to use those shoulder buttons, no idea how much they would be used but I use them a ton on my xbox so it's a big concern.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Do you guys have stock in Sony or Nintendo? Why would anybody care who sold more units. Not like Nintendo is going to go out of business and stop selling games for this thing.

One reason to care is because it's obviously going to impact the development effort that happens for a platform. But no, I don't have any stock in any of them, so I don't care who makes money and who has to eat money to sell their stuff. Whether Nintendo is at risk of going bankrupt makes no difference to me. The only company I actually dislike out of them is Microsoft. I root for them to go bankrupt, even though that's not going to happen as larry pointed out.

I get that first point, but this is Nintendo's main platform for the next 3-4 years, so I have no worries about it getting plenty of games. I'm excited to see what they can develop to go with the new controller.

Do you really like that controller? It felt incredible awkward holding it.

how long did you play it and what game(s) did you play with it?(and if you played Nintendo Land, which attractions?)I ask because it was awkward for me (and the other people I've seen playing it) at first, too. But you get used to it fast and it does some pretty cool stuff when you get the hang of it. (or at least the people I've played with thought so)

Not terribly long, but what I didn't like was how extended my wrists had to be to use the shoulder buttons vs a xbox or ps3 controller. Very interesting concept but for me it was very awkward to use those shoulder buttons, no idea how much they would be used but I use them a ton on my xbox so it's a big concern.

I've played all the Nintendo Land games, and didn't have any issues with any of them.Either you have very tiny hands, or you weren't holding it right. (going solely from how you describe it)

 

[Deranged Hermit]

WiiU was 100% sold out probably before Thanksgiving, of course it had bad Black Friday sales, no one had any.Everything I have seen shows that WiiU's launch sales have been pretty in line with every other launch (they're just keeping up with demand better than most).

This is completely untrue. Every toys r US in our district had a backload of Wii u after black Friday. The only time we sold out was launch day and that was only because we had only 25 if each system.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

WiiU was 100% sold out probably before Thanksgiving, of course it had bad Black Friday sales, no one had any.Everything I have seen shows that WiiU's launch sales have been pretty in line with every other launch (they're just keeping up with demand better than most).

This is completely untrue. Every toys r US in our district had a backload of Wii u after black Friday. The only time we sold out was launch day and that was only because we had only 25 if each system.

I was about to post something similar. They had 2 of them sitting at our Target Christmas eve.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

a couple of thoughts....

1) My first question the the guy at the Nintendo display at our mall - How much for a second controller (like the first one) You can't buy them. See I have two daughters close to age. One "fancy" controller won't work unless you want WW3.

2) I like that it's just as powerful as a xbox or 360 - but why on God's green earth do I want to pay $300+ for 6 year old technology?

3) It seems to me that it's a portable gaming system that isn't all that portable.

I was going to buy one but I can't find one reason to do so.

 

[larry_boy_44]

WiiU was 100% sold out probably before Thanksgiving, of course it had bad Black Friday sales, no one had any.Everything I have seen shows that WiiU's launch sales have been pretty in line with every other launch (they're just keeping up with demand better than most).

This is completely untrue. Every toys r US in our district had a backload of Wii u after black Friday. The only time we sold out was launch day and that was only because we had only 25 if each system.

Its widely reported that WiiU's were sold out their first week and didn't get fully re-stocked 'til after their second week.I know they've been available all December, I never said anything different.

 

[Slapdash]

I was going to buy one but I can't find one reason to do so.

Yeah, me either. Probably the first generation of Nintendo consoles I skip.

 

[Premier]

I was going to buy one but I can't find one reason to do so.

Yeah, me either. Probably the first generation of Nintendo consoles I skip.

I like their games. We have people over fairly often and with the last wii we got a lot of mileage out of wii sports and Mario Kart. Sure it'll be the same with this one.

 

[larry_boy_44]

a couple of thoughts....1) My first question the the guy at the Nintendo display at our mall - How much for a second controller (like the first one) You can't buy them. See I have two daughters close to age. One "fancy" controller won't work unless you want WW3.2) I like that it's just as powerful as a xbox or 360 - but why on God's green earth do I want to pay $300+ for 6 year old technology? 3) It seems to me that it's a portable gaming system that isn't all that portable. I was going to buy one but I can't find one reason to do so.

1. There are 0 games that use two of those controllers. It is useless to have a second at this point because, as of right now, only one is usable at a time. They do have the capability of having two going at once, but there aren't any games that take advantage of that (yet). In Japan you can buy them (they're region-locked), but they have games that do things with two of them at once.2. Its more powerful. No one is sure how much more powerful, though (estimates are 33-50% more powerful). Beyond that, XBox360 and PS3s are still similarly priced (4 GB XBox 360 is $200, the cheapest PS3 that Game Stop sells is $260 (but its a bundle, so let's say $200)). WiiU basic is $300.3. It isn't portable. There are certain features that can be done with only the Game Pad (Imagine hooking up your XBox/PS3 to an iPad/tablet), but not everything.Not saying that you "have to buy one!!" or anything, but just figured I'd just answer these questions.

 

[The General]

Played this last night at a dinner party with friends and lots of kids.

My 2 cents:

The Nintendo Land game that came with it had a ton of content and kind of showed you how to use the new controller - The new controller can do a lot of cool things.

The Nintendo Land game was similar to Wii Sports that came with the Wii. Good family type games.

You can use the controller as a tv remote, watch Netflix and Hulu on it and play some games only on it and have the TV free. Again was surprised at how much it does.

Watched a kid play Assassins Creed and a Batman game. They looked really good. The new controller had the map and inventory items on it. Seemed to save time when switching stuff out and the giant map seemed helpful.

All in all seemed pretty cool. The kids were loving it.

 

[DrJ]

a couple of thoughts....1) My first question the the guy at the Nintendo display at our mall - How much for a second controller (like the first one) You can't buy them. See I have two daughters close to age. One "fancy" controller won't work unless you want WW3.2) I like that it's just as powerful as a xbox or 360 - but why on God's green earth do I want to pay $300+ for 6 year old technology? 3) It seems to me that it's a portable gaming system that isn't all that portable. I was going to buy one but I can't find one reason to do so.

1. There are 0 games that use two of those controllers. It is useless to have a second at this point because, as of right now, only one is usable at a time. They do have the capability of having two going at once, but there aren't any games that take advantage of that (yet). In Japan you can buy them (they're region-locked), but they have games that do things with two of them at once.2. Its more powerful. No one is sure how much more powerful, though (estimates are 33-50% more powerful). Beyond that, XBox360 and PS3s are still similarly priced (4 GB XBox 360 is $200, the cheapest PS3 that Game Stop sells is $260 (but its a bundle, so let's say $200)). WiiU basic is $300.3. It isn't portable. There are certain features that can be done with only the Game Pad (Imagine hooking up your XBox/PS3 to an iPad/tablet), but not everything.Not saying that you "have to buy one!!" or anything, but just figured I'd just answer these questions.

The article you linked said 50% more powerful than the original Wii and in line with an Xbox 360. Odds are that this is about right or Nintendo wouldn't try and hide the specs on the system.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

a couple of thoughts....1) My first question the the guy at the Nintendo display at our mall - How much for a second controller (like the first one) You can't buy them. See I have two daughters close to age. One "fancy" controller won't work unless you want WW3.2) I like that it's just as powerful as a xbox or 360 - but why on God's green earth do I want to pay $300+ for 6 year old technology? 3) It seems to me that it's a portable gaming system that isn't all that portable. I was going to buy one but I can't find one reason to do so.

1. There are 0 games that use two of those controllers. It is useless to have a second at this point because, as of right now, only one is usable at a time. They do have the capability of having two going at once, but there aren't any games that take advantage of that (yet). In Japan you can buy them (they're region-locked), but they have games that do things with two of them at once.2. Its more powerful. No one is sure how much more powerful, though (estimates are 33-50% more powerful). Beyond that, XBox360 and PS3s are still similarly priced (4 GB XBox 360 is $200, the cheapest PS3 that Game Stop sells is $260 (but its a bundle, so let's say $200)). WiiU basic is $300.3. It isn't portable. There are certain features that can be done with only the Game Pad (Imagine hooking up your XBox/PS3 to an iPad/tablet), but not everything.Not saying that you "have to buy one!!" or anything, but just figured I'd just answer these questions.

You missed the point on items 1 & 3.

 

[belljr]

We decided to just get another Wii for now. 125 seemed a lot more reasonable.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but friend of mine just got one of these for her son. Do they have minecraft for it yet?

TIA,

 

[SlaX]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but friend of mine just got one of these for her son. Do they have minecraft for it yet?

TIA,

No. It's exclusive to XBox for now. As far as consoles go, that is.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but friend of mine just got one of these for her son. Do they have minecraft for it yet?

TIA,

No. It's exclusive to XBox for now. As far as consoles go, that is.

Gracias, any idea as to when Wii U will get it?

TIA,

 

[Premier]

Is this thing selling at all? No EA really pisses me off.

 

[GoFishTN]

Is this thing selling at all? No EA really pisses me off.

In its first five months, the Wii U sold 1.1 million units— compared with 2.1 million Wiis when that system came out. To put those numbers in perspective, in the first three months of 2013—without holiday sales to boost it—the eight-year old Xbox 360 sold 844,000 hardware units—75 percent of the Wii U's life-to-date numbers.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100810130

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Is this thing selling at all? No EA really pisses me off.

In its first five months, the Wii U sold 1.1 million units— compared with 2.1 million Wiis when that system came out. To put those numbers in perspective, in the first three months of 2013—without holiday sales to boost it—the eight-year old Xbox 360 sold 844,000 hardware units—75 percent of the Wii U's life-to-date numbers.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100810130

I generally love anything Nintendo puts out. I've had every console and handheld they've ever made. Something was telling me to stay away from the WiiU as a Christmas gift for the kids and I'm glad I did. It has failure written all over it right now (IMO).

 

[GoFishTN]

Nintendo announced a $50 price drop effective September 20th. I have small kids, so I'm thinking of picking one up for Christmas now.

 

[Hawks64]

I finally got around to playing with the demo unit at a Best Buy. That controller flat out sucks. It is way too awkward to hold IMO.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Nintendo announced a $50 price drop effective September 20th. I have small kids, so I'm thinking of picking one up for Christmas now.

Thinking about picking one up as well. I'll probably get the new Zelda bundle that is the same price.

 

[belljr]

so explain the 2ds to me.... itcan play all 3ds and ds games.... isnt it just a 3ds with 3d turned off?