***Official*** Post Your 2016 Rookie Draft (1 Viewer)

[Steel City]

Superflex, 11 starters, flexible lineups (can start up to 6 rbs/wrs)

http://www60.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=47888&O=17

 

[TheBottomLine]

10-team PPR IDP

http://www56.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=42564&O=17

12-team PPR IDP

http://www65.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=10326&O=17

16-team PPR IDP

http://www58.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=42437&O=17

 

[jimmy b]

Sehorn .

 

[eNdblu]

16-team PPR IDP

http://www58.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=42437&O=17

Strange choice by the 1.03 to go Wentz when they already had Winston and glaring needs elsewhere

Previously quoted the draft link from snellman and dunno how to remove it from my reply

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The RBs seem to be moving higher and higher.  Dixon in the 1.6 range in several of the recent drafts and Booker around 1.9/1.10.

A few days ago each of them were about 4 picks later pretty regularly.

ETA: Looks like Michael Thomas and Tyler Boyd are the main guys dropping as a result.

 

[BigTex]

14 Team PPR Superflex (1/2/2/1, 1 flex, 1 superflex)

http://www59.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=33561&O=17

Combined devy/rookie draft. Already owned from previous years: Zeke, Henry, Treadwell, Boyd, C. Cook, Hackenberg, C. Jones, Fournette, Chubb

Total of 7 devys per rookie draft.

1. JuJu Smith (devy 1)

2. DeShaun Watson (devy 2)

3. Dalvin Cook (devy 3)

4. Mike Williams (devy 4)

5. Jared Goff

6. Corey Coleman

7. Christian McCaffrey (devy 5)

8. Carson Wentz

9. Josh Doctson

10. Paxton Lynch

11. Saquon Barkley (devy 6)

12. Kenneth Dixon

13. Sterling Shepard

14. Josh Rosen (devy 7)

15. Michael Thomas

16. Paul Perkins

17. C.J. Prosise

18. Hunter Henry

19. Devontae Booker

20. Will Fuller

21. Jordan Howard.

Thanks for posting. I hardly see any Devy/Rookie drafts posted here. We could never have enough.

Tex

 

[spider321]

Thanks for posting. I hardly see any Devy/Rookie drafts posted here. We could never have enough.

Tex

I don't disagree, but can we get a separate thread for devy drafts?

Imo, it doesn't help us non-devy dynasty players to see a draft where Zeke, Henry, Treadwell, and Boyd are already taken.

 

[BigTex]

I don't disagree, but can we get a separate thread for devy drafts.

Imo, it doesn't help us non-devy dynasty players to see a draft where Zeke, Henry, Treadwell, and Boyd are already taken.

I didn't realize it was thread specific. It just says rookie draft.

 

[spider321]

I didn't realize it was thread specific. It just says rookie draft.

Just my opinion, but I think a rookie draft and a devy draft are different enough to warrant 2 threads.

Not a huge deal if most disagree.

 

[jeaton6]

Just my opinion, but I think a rookie draft and a devy draft are different enough to warrant 2 threads.

Not a huge deal if most disagree.

Not sure there are enough devy drafts for it to matter. So long as the Google doc doesn't include it in the 12 team PPR data. Click on the link see devy players and move on.

 

[bostonfred]

Long time 14 team non ppr qrwwtfkd.  6pt all tds, -3 all turnovers.  Only 4 skill players start each week so studs are important.  Rbs are scarce and non ppr drives their value up.   Two teams own most of the picks in this year's draft - mine and coli.


1.01


1.


ILUVBEER


Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB


Sat Apr 30 1:28:05 p.m. ET 2016


 


1.02


2.


Boston Freds


Henry, Derrick TEN RB


Sun May 1 10:26:45 a.m. ET 2016



 


1.03


3.


Hurricanes


Treadwell, Laquon MIN WR


Mon May 2 8:17:10 a.m. ET 2016


 


1.04


4.


Colorado e.Coli


Coleman, Corey CLE WR


Mon May 2 9:39:58 a.m. ET 2016


I know none of you will believe me if I said I preferred Treadwell, but if Coleman can unlearn the Baylor streetball system and refine his routes, he's going to make the lil guys proud.


1.05


5.


Boston Freds


Doctson, Josh WAS WR


Mon May 2 1:06:04 p.m. ET 2016



 


1.06


6.


Boston Freds


Dixon, Kenneth BAL RB


Mon May 2 1:06:35 p.m. ET 2016



 


1.07


7.


Colorado e.Coli


Prosise, C.J. SEA RB


Mon May 2 2:09:36 p.m. ET 2016


Backup to Rawls



Trade 1 - consensus number 1 team trades 2017 1st for 1.8


1.08


8.


ILUVBEER


Shepard, Sterling NYG WR


Mon May 2 9:58:26 p.m. ET 2016




Trade 2 - I trade doctson for 1.9, Olsen


1.09


9.


Boston Freds


Thomas, Michael NOS WR


Mon May 2 11:57:45 p.m. ET 2016


 

Trade 3 - possible rebuilding team trades 2.1, 2.5 for 1.10


.10


10.


Karen's Nightmare


Wentz, Carson PHI QB


Tue May 3 1:12:43 a.m. ET 2016


 


1.11


11.


Colorado e.Coli


Lynch, Paxton DEN QB


Tue May 3 10:44:22 a.m. ET 2016


Backup to Sanchez (Comments Added Tue May 3 9:34:35 a.m. MT 2016)


1.12


12.


Colorado e.Coli


Drake, Kenyan MIA RB


Tue May 3 11:05:15 a.m. ET 2016


Backup to Ajayi (Comments Added Tue May 3 9:34:42 a.m. MT 2016)


1.13


13.


Colorado e.Coli


Fuller, Will HOU WR


Tue May 3 12:17:40 p.m. ET 2016


Backup to Hopkins (Comments Added Tue May 3 10:48:26 a.m. MT 2016)


1.14


14.


Virginia Vanguard


Goff, Jared RAM QB


Tue May 3 1:27:56 p.m. ET 2016


 


2.01


15.


Boston Freds


Perkins, Paul NYG RB


Tue May 3 1:53:54 p.m. ET 2016



 


2.02


16.


Velvet Elvis


Booker, Devontae DEN RB


Tue May 3 7:18:28 p.m. ET 2016


 


2.03


17.


Colorado e.Coli


Boyd, Tyler CIN WR


Tue May 3 7:26:13 p.m. ET 2016


I don't care if he's a slug. He's been a slug for years but he's always produced. Could be the top WR I draft.


2.04


18.


Ghost Kitties


Howard, Jordan CHI RB


Tue May 3 7:57:33 p.m. ET 2016


 


2.05


19.


Boston Freds


Henry, Hunter SDC TE


Tue May 3 9:10:09 p.m. ET 2016



 


2.06


20.


Colorado e.Coli


Carroo, Leonte MIA WR


Tue May 3 10:01:36 p.m. ET 2016


Situation is putrid but the talent is sick. Opposite of Drake.


2.07


21.


Colorado e.Coli


Ervin, Tyler HOU RB


Tue May 3 10:12:38 p.m. ET 2016


Backup to a backup (Comments Added Wed May 4 5:07:36 a.m. MT 2016)


2.08


22.


Velvet Elvis


Miller, Braxton HOU WR


Wed May 4 6:34:13 a.m. ET 2016


 


2.09


23.


Colorado e.Coli


Cooper, Pharoh RAM WR


Wed May 4 7:24:57 a.m. ET 2016


All Rams WRs are backups (Comments Added Wed May 4 5:26:20 a.m. MT 2016)


2.10


24.


Colorado e.Coli


Williams, Jonathan BUF RB


Wed May 4 7:44:29 a.m. ET 2016


Keith is right; I gotta take this guy.


2.11


25.


Virginia Vanguard


Marshall, Keith WAS RB


Wed May 4 8:06:09 a.m. ET 2016


longshot


2.12


26.


Colorado e.Coli


Smallwood, Wendell PHI RB


Wed May 4 8:18:27 a.m. ET 2016


Throw enough of it on the wall and eventually some of it sticks...I just need to wait for Mathews to sneeze and this guy will get his chance.


2.13


27.


Hurricanes


Collins, Alex SEA RB


Wed May 4 9:27:21 a.m. ET 2016


 


2.14


28.


Ghost Kitties


Washington, DeAndre OAK RB


Wed May 4 11:29:22 a.m. ET 2016


 


3.01


29.


Karen's Nightmare


Robinson, Demarcus KCC WR


Wed May 4 3:20:13 p.m. ET 2016


 


3.02


30.


ILUVBEER


Mitchell, Malcolm NEP WR


Wed May 4 3:32:53 p.m. ET 2016

 

[bostonfred]

Coli owned 11 of the first 25 picks. I owned 5.  So a lot of this is our preference.  I prefer guys with some chance to start right away because I'm the most active trader in the league and love flipping.   I paid 1.2, 1.6 and 2.1 for Henry,  Dixon and Perkins, which will not go over well with the ppr WR lovers but was hardly bargain shopping in non ppr, either.   I love Dixon and think he's the answer for trestman at rb.  I also got Michael Thomas, who i think could outproduce cooks very soon,  and hunter Henry, who will back up Olsen for me until he's ready to play unless I trade him first. 

Coli prefers super young guys and loves the little guys for some reason.  I hate prosise, because I don't think he's ready to play this year.   He loves the guy with the higher draft position and low career carries.  We didn't overlap a lot in our preferences, so both of us were happy. 

 

[joey]

.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

10 team, start Q/RR/WW/T + flex, .5 ppr for WR/TE ONLY. 5 year max contracts, but 5 man rookie squad and 2 man 2nd year squad. Only starting 20-30 WRs per week without full ppr makes WRs less valuable than larger formats.

Mixed owners, probably 5 pretty strong, 1-2 weak, 3-4 average.


1.01


The Poontang Clan


Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB (R)


1.02


The Poontang Clan


Treadwell, Laquon MIN WR (R)


1.03


The Poontang Clan


Doctson, Josh WAS WR (R)


1.04


Bankrobber


Henry, Derrick TEN RB (R)


1.05


Norsemen via Bermuda


Coleman, Corey CLE WR (R)


1.06


I Touchdown There


Thomas, Michael NOS WR (R)


1.07


The Brute Force


Prosise, C.J. SEA RB (R)


1.08


The Brute Force


Booker, Devontae DEN RB (R)


1.09


Wolverine


Shepard, Sterling NYG WR (R)


1.10


DC Demons


Fuller, Will HOU WR (R)


2.01


The Brute Force


Dixon, Kenneth BAL RB (R)


2.02


I Touchdown There


Perkins, Paul NYG RB (R)


2.03


The Poontang Clan


Boyd, Tyler CIN WR (R)


2.04


The Poontang Clan


Henry, Hunter SDC TE (R)


2.05


Norsemen via Bermuda


Drake, Kenyan MIA RB (R)


2.06


Bankrobber


Cooper, Pharoh RAM WR (R)


2.07


The Brute Force


Howard, Jordan CHI RB (R) traded for 3.02 + 2017 2nd


2.08


The Brute Force


Mitchell, Malcolm NEP WR (R)


2.09


Wolverine


Carroo, Leonte MIA WR (R)


2.10


Bankrobber


Collins, Alex SEA RB (R)


3.01


Bankrobber


Braverman, Daniel CHI WR (R)


3.02


The Brute Force


Smallwood, Wendell PHI RB (R)


3.03


In Hybernation


Williams, Jonathan BUF RB (R)


3.04


The Brute Force


Marshall, Keith WAS RB (R)


3.05


Norsemen via Bermuda


Miller, Braxton HOU WR (R)


3.06


Bankrobber


Goff, Jared RAM QB (R)


3.07


Norsemen via Bermuda


Wentz, Carson PHI QB (R)


3.08


I Touchdown There


Boehringer, Moritz MIN WR (R)


3.09


Wolverine


Washington, DeAndre OAK RB (R)


3.10


Bankrobber


Taylor, Kelvin SFO RB (R)


4.01


The Brute Force


Washington, Dwayne DET RB (R)


4.02


Wolverine


Higgins, Rashard CLE WR (R)


4.03


I Touchdown There


Lasco, Daniel NOS RB (R)


4.04


Bankrobber


Moore, Chris BAL WR (R)


4.05


Norsemen via Bermuda


Morgan, David MIN TE (R)


4.06


I Touchdown There


Higbee, Tyler RAM TE (R)


4.07


I Touchdown There


Garrett, Keyarris CAR WR (R)


4.08


The Brute Force


Hooper, Austin ATL TE (R)


4.09


Wolverine


Thomas, Mike RAM WR (R)


4.10


In Hybernation


Ervin, Tyler HOU RB (R)


5.01


Bankrobber


Lynch, Paxton DEN QB (R)


5.02


In Hybernation


Hackenberg, Christian NYJ QB (R)


5.03


In Hybernation


Payton, Jordan CLE WR (R)


5.04


X-Factor


Sharpe, Tajae TEN WR (R)


5.05


Norsemen via Bermuda


Aguayo, Roberto TBB PK (R)


5.06


I Touchdown There


Pressley, Jhurell MIN RB (R)


5.07


Wolverine


Ferguson, Josh IND RB (R)


5.08


In Hybernation


Barber, Peyton TBB RB (R)


5.09


Wolverine


Lucien, Devin NEP WR (R)


5.10


The Brute Force


Robinson, Demarcus KCC WR (R)

 

[pizzatyme]

FFPC

Zeke

Treadwell

Doctson

I'll update as it goes along.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Long time 14 team non ppr qrwwtfkd.  6pt all tds, -3 all turnovers.  Only 4 skill players start each week so studs are important.  Rbs are scarce and non ppr drives their value up.   Two teams own most of the picks in this year's draft - mine and coli.


1.01


1.


ILUVBEER


Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB


Sat Apr 30 1:28:05 p.m. ET 2016


 


1.02


2.


Boston Freds


Henry, Derrick TEN RB


Sun May 1 10:26:45 a.m. ET 2016



 


1.03


3.


Hurricanes


Treadwell, Laquon MIN WR


Mon May 2 8:17:10 a.m. ET 2016


 


1.04


4.


Colorado e.Coli


Coleman, Corey CLE WR


Mon May 2 9:39:58 a.m. ET 2016


I know none of you will believe me if I said I preferred Treadwell, but if Coleman can unlearn the Baylor streetball system and refine his routes, he's going to make the lil guys proud.


1.05


5.


Boston Freds


Doctson, Josh WAS WR


Mon May 2 1:06:04 p.m. ET 2016



 


1.06


6.


Boston Freds


Dixon, Kenneth BAL RB


Mon May 2 1:06:35 p.m. ET 2016



 


1.07


7.


Colorado e.Coli


Prosise, C.J. SEA RB


Mon May 2 2:09:36 p.m. ET 2016


Backup to Rawls



Trade 1 - consensus number 1 team trades 2017 1st for 1.8


1.08


8.


ILUVBEER


Shepard, Sterling NYG WR


Mon May 2 9:58:26 p.m. ET 2016




Trade 2 - I trade doctson for 1.9, Olsen


1.09


9.


Boston Freds


Thomas, Michael NOS WR


Mon May 2 11:57:45 p.m. ET 2016


 

Trade 3 - possible rebuilding team trades 2.1, 2.5 for 1.10


.10


10.


Karen's Nightmare


Wentz, Carson PHI QB


Tue May 3 1:12:43 a.m. ET 2016


 


1.11


11.


Colorado e.Coli


Lynch, Paxton DEN QB


Tue May 3 10:44:22 a.m. ET 2016


Backup to Sanchez (Comments Added Tue May 3 9:34:35 a.m. MT 2016)


1.12


12.


Colorado e.Coli


Drake, Kenyan MIA RB


Tue May 3 11:05:15 a.m. ET 2016


Backup to Ajayi (Comments Added Tue May 3 9:34:42 a.m. MT 2016)


1.13


13.


Colorado e.Coli


Fuller, Will HOU WR


Tue May 3 12:17:40 p.m. ET 2016


Backup to Hopkins (Comments Added Tue May 3 10:48:26 a.m. MT 2016)


1.14


14.


Virginia Vanguard


Goff, Jared RAM QB


Tue May 3 1:27:56 p.m. ET 2016


 


2.01


15.


Boston Freds


Perkins, Paul NYG RB


Tue May 3 1:53:54 p.m. ET 2016



 


2.02


16.


Velvet Elvis


Booker, Devontae DEN RB


Tue May 3 7:18:28 p.m. ET 2016


 


2.03


17.


Colorado e.Coli


Boyd, Tyler CIN WR


Tue May 3 7:26:13 p.m. ET 2016


I don't care if he's a slug. He's been a slug for years but he's always produced. Could be the top WR I draft.


2.04


18.


Ghost Kitties


Howard, Jordan CHI RB


Tue May 3 7:57:33 p.m. ET 2016


 


2.05


19.


Boston Freds


Henry, Hunter SDC TE


Tue May 3 9:10:09 p.m. ET 2016



 


2.06


20.


Colorado e.Coli


Carroo, Leonte MIA WR


Tue May 3 10:01:36 p.m. ET 2016


Situation is putrid but the talent is sick. Opposite of Drake.


2.07


21.


Colorado e.Coli


Ervin, Tyler HOU RB


Tue May 3 10:12:38 p.m. ET 2016


Backup to a backup (Comments Added Wed May 4 5:07:36 a.m. MT 2016)


2.08


22.


Velvet Elvis


Miller, Braxton HOU WR


Wed May 4 6:34:13 a.m. ET 2016


 


2.09


23.


Colorado e.Coli


Cooper, Pharoh RAM WR


Wed May 4 7:24:57 a.m. ET 2016


All Rams WRs are backups (Comments Added Wed May 4 5:26:20 a.m. MT 2016)


2.10


24.


Colorado e.Coli


Williams, Jonathan BUF RB


Wed May 4 7:44:29 a.m. ET 2016


Keith is right; I gotta take this guy.


2.11


25.


Virginia Vanguard


Marshall, Keith WAS RB


Wed May 4 8:06:09 a.m. ET 2016


longshot


2.12


26.


Colorado e.Coli


Smallwood, Wendell PHI RB


Wed May 4 8:18:27 a.m. ET 2016


Throw enough of it on the wall and eventually some of it sticks...I just need to wait for Mathews to sneeze and this guy will get his chance.


2.13


27.


Hurricanes


Collins, Alex SEA RB


Wed May 4 9:27:21 a.m. ET 2016


 


2.14


28.


Ghost Kitties


Washington, DeAndre OAK RB


Wed May 4 11:29:22 a.m. ET 2016


 


3.01


29.


Karen's Nightmare


Robinson, Demarcus KCC WR


Wed May 4 3:20:13 p.m. ET 2016


 


3.02


30.


ILUVBEER


Mitchell, Malcolm NEP WR


Wed May 4 3:32:53 p.m. ET 2016

ecoli is very concerned with getting his players' backups. Maybe it was just schtick on his part - but securing Mark Sanchez' backup shouldn't be anyone's priority.

 

[bostonfred]

Lol that was just shtick.  He doesn't own any of those guys.   He was self deprecatingly joking that he used all those picks on backups.   

 

[jeaton6]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VWOrFwgSztuLZJWmXzUHeTIJbnYscDMcYnoZAVORiMs/edit?usp=sharing

keep adding them and I'll do the same

Pharaoh Cooper so odd. Earliest he has gone is 2.6 His avg draft position is 17.5 (cumulative 105 picks/6 drafts PPR non IDP) YET his ADP is 16th pick.  Shows you how all over the board this draft is!

 

[bostonfred]

Cooper clearly belongs after the big 3 receivers, Thomas/shepard/Boyd/fuller, and is in the Braxton miller/carroo tier.   Borderline top 10 receiver.  The only thing moving him up and down adp is how hard people hammer the receiver inventory before looking at running backs

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Lol that was just shtick.  He doesn't own any of those guys.   He was self deprecatingly joking that he used all those picks on backups.   

figured that after a while.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

 

[massraider]

Tell you what, man.  In IDP leagues, I am jumping in EARLY at LB.

These late 1st/early 2nd RB/WR are going to have as good a shot as 3rd/4th round players at same position.  If I can get a 2nd/3rd for a 1st, I might do it (assuming someone isn't handing out 2017 1sts).  

I think ADP of most of these RB and WR are going to prove to be a mistake.  Late 1st early 2nd round, I'd rather take Henry/Hooper/Goff/Wentz/Lynch.  

 

[Spike]

Sometimes I wonder if it's NOT a good thing to put much weight into these.  I feel a lot of people see these and say, "Well, most people are picking player XYZ here so I guess I had better do that too."

 

[Biabreakable]

I can see your point Spike.

I think people are influenced by other things they have read/saw and not just ADP but maybe I am wrong about that. 

I certainly try to consider ADP to some extent. Start up drafts will show better separation of the 2016 rookie values than these rookie drafts will.

 

[mikel2014]

Sometimes I wonder if it's NOT a good thing to put much weight into these.  I feel a lot of people see these and say, "Well, most people are picking player XYZ here so I guess I had better do that too."

I think it's most helpful to be able to see which players may drop. For example, if I'm debating between two RBs at picks 23 and 27, I know Paul Perkins is more likely to be snatched up than DeAndre Washington. But I do agree that if you like DeAndre Washington more, then forget about the ADP and get him.

 

[Arodin]

ecoli is very concerned with getting his players' backups. Maybe it was just schtick on his part - but securing Mark Sanchez' backup shouldn't be anyone's priority.

Why not?  I'd much rather have the backup to someone who sucks than the backup to an all-pro.  All else being relatively equal, of course.

 

[dipandglide]

Superflex

http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2016/home/69062#0

 

[Tool]

Coli owned 11 of the first 25 picks. I owned 5.  So a lot of this is our preference.  I prefer guys with some chance to start right away because I'm the most active trader in the league and love flipping.   I paid 1.2, 1.6 and 2.1 for Henry,  Dixon and Perkins, which will not go over well with the ppr WR lovers but was hardly bargain shopping in non ppr, either.   I love Dixon and think he's the answer for trestman at rb.  I also got Michael Thomas, who i think could outproduce cooks very soon,  and hunter Henry, who will back up Olsen for me until he's ready to play unless I trade him first. 

Coli prefers super young guys and loves the little guys for some reason.  I hate prosise, because I don't think he's ready to play this year.   He loves the guy with the higher draft position and low career carries.  We didn't overlap a lot in our preferences, so both of us were happy. 

He should get help for that. I think there's a 1-800 number he can call.

 

[pizzatyme]

FFPC

Zeke

Treadwell

Doctson

I'll update as it goes along.

Add:

Coleman

Shepard 

Dixon

Henry

 

[spider321]

Add:

Coleman

Shepard 

Dixon

Henry

Dixon over Henry?  That's odd.

 

[pizzatyme]

Dixon over Henry?  That's odd.

Yep, our league seems to like his path to starting better I guess. I took Henry as I also have Murray. Easy choice for me.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Dixon over Henry?  That's odd.

It's becoming more and more common. 

 

[Fantasy Benchwarmer]

http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=34120&O=17

 

[One More Rep]

http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=34120&O=17

Dixon before Coleman is bold

 

[Dan Hindery]

Dixon before Coleman is bold

Yikes. I like Dixon and all, but he went 100+ picks later than Coleman. 

 

[spider321]

Yikes. I like Dixon and all, but he went 100+ picks later than Coleman. 

119, to be exact.

 

[BigJim®]

I certainly try to consider ADP to some extent. Start up drafts will show better separation of the 2016 rookie values than these rookie drafts will.

I definitely think about ADP for that payer or two I'm targeting, and when considering if I can safely trade up or down. To stay rational how I value rookies, it's fun seeing start ups where guys draft the rookie pick # (rather than a named rookie). Super interesting, but the knowledge has seemed pretty useless at draft time and when offering trades. In the frenzy of a rookie draft, everyone is selling and buying the winning lottery number.

 

[jeaton6]

Dixon before Coleman is bold

How about Howard at 6 before Henry and basically all the other tier 2 WRs?

 

[Borden]

What exactly is Daredevil smoking? Perkins at 1.6 and Keith Marshall at 1.7?

This thread is great.  Helps with rookie valuation and also can have a little bit of fun seeing some of the outliers. Always one or two in every league.

Perkins and Kenny Lawler 

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Have to say I'm more than a little surprised to see Tyreek Hill going undrafted in most of these.  He's a phenomenal athlete.  Maybe the best in this class.  The Chiefs spent a 5th on him in spite of his being kicked off of the OSU team in 2014 for beating/choking his girlfriend.  Dorsey and Reid took a lot of heat, but they are sticking by the kid.  

He's 5'8" 185lbs.  Ran 4.28 and 4.29 at his pro day.  10'9"broad and 40.5" vertical.  Shuttle times were fantastic too.  Elite athlete.  

On the field he looks like a football player.  He's not skinny.  Very solid build.  Looks more like a RB than a WR.

I'm curious to see how KC uses him.  There's some combo of Sproles/Harvin/Cobb/Tavon potential here.  Likely mostly a returner in year 1, but the guys is gonna make plays in the return game.  His speed and athleticism jump out on tape.

 

[JohnnyU]

Yikes. I like Dixon and all, but he went 100+ picks later than Coleman. 

 

[JohnnyU]

How about Howard at 6 before Henry and basically all the other tier 2 WRs?

I love these owners.

 

[Biabreakable]

I definitely think about ADP for that payer or two I'm targeting, and when considering if I can safely trade up or down. To stay rational how I value rookies, it's fun seeing start ups where guys draft the rookie pick # (rather than a named rookie). Super interesting, but the knowledge has seemed pretty useless at draft time and when offering trades. In the frenzy of a rookie draft, everyone is selling and buying the winning lottery number.

Yeah they are two separate things and not saying it would help trade negotiations.

But it can show you when there is a big gap between say rookie pick 1.05 and rookie pick 1.09

From April ADP of dynasty start ups:

19. Ezekiel Elliott RB3 R1 20.22 -5.61 [14,26

28. Laquon Treadwell WR23 R2 29.89 2.22 [23,35]
34. Josh Doctson WR27 R3 35.56 -7.11 [28,46]
39. Corey Coleman WR30 R4 43.22 -7.44 [35,56]

64. Michael Thomas WR40 R5 67.22 -4.78 [57,81]
67. Derrick Henry RB18 R6 68.22 5.22 [52,94]
69. Leonte Carroo WR43 R7 69.11 -13.64 [37,88]
72. Sterling Shepard WR44 R8 74.89 2.14 [61,94]
76. Kenneth Dixon RB21 R9 78.78 -12.39 [49,103]

95. Tyler Boyd WR51 R10 93.00 32.67 [67,111]

and so on.

There is clearly a sizable gap between the top 4 rookies and the next group. This was prior to the NFL draft so things have changed. Now Shephard seems to be the next preferred WR instead of Michael Thomas and I don't think the Giants was a better landing spot.

Just another way to look at things. 

 

[Spike]

Do people have fears about Coleman turning into, at least for the first few years in the NFL, Sammy Watkins?  The parallel I'm trying to make is an excellent WR coming into the league and getting stuck with utter crap at QB.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Do people have fears about Coleman turning into, at least for the first few years in the NFL, Sammy Watkins?  The parallel I'm trying to make is an excellent WR coming into the league and getting stuck with utter crap at QB.

RGIII could turn it around and (if not) Josh McCown was able to make Travis Benjamin and Gary Barnidge fantasy relevant.

 

[Catbird]

Turning into Watkins for his first few years? In Watkins second year in the NFL he was WR 7 in fantasy PPG, and over the last 6 games was 2nd or 3rd in the league. If you are the dominant WR on your team, even a bad QB won't hold you back very much (check 2015 for Hopkins, Maclin, Marshall, AJGreen w/o Dalton, etc. and even Benjamin). The bigger question for Coleman's early production, to me, is Gordon. 

 

[Dan Hindery]

This might not be real useful to look at since it's a devy league and a bunch of the top guys were gone, but you can at least see the order guys went in:

http://www65.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=40761&O=17

12 team PPR, rounds 4 and 5 were devys

 

[Dope]

Dixon just went 1.02 in our 14 team non-ppr league.

 

[jeaton6]

Dixon just went 1.02 in our 14 team non-ppr league.

Lol. I think his ADP is up about 5 spots from drafts starting 4/30 or 5/1 to ones starting in last 2 days.

 

[jeaton6]

Just started 30 minutes ago

http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2016/options?L=16223&O=17