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[travdogg]

Binge watched the first three episodes of the "Attitude Era" RAWs yesterday while working around the house.

Not everything was amazing. Austin has a Port-A-John lowered down from the rafters to put Golddust in it. Terry Funk spent hours in a wooden crate just so he could chainsaw out of it very awkwardly. The King still wrestling. Undertaker talking, just the worst of ideas.

But so much of it was good. Vince giving a speech about "The Cure for the Common Show" pretty much admitting that they were going for shock and soap opera along with athletic displays. Early DX skits. Mick Foley doing all kinds of Mick Foley things. Only two hours of programming, split to make each hour seem different and special. Loved the fact that there were a ton of factions. Felt like a huge gang war with your single heroes here and there. Today's product could improve itself greatly if it went back to having more groups of guys.

My favorite was HBK/HHH having their own "finger poke of doom", but pulling it off so much better than Hogan/Nash did later on.

The attitude era gets looked at through extremely rose colored glasses for the most part. It wasn't necessarily better than it is today, it just had better booking, especially in the main event. I'd argue the wrestling itself is FAR inferior.

The promos were light years ahead, I chalk that up more to creative freedom than anything else. Imagine if 1998 Undertaker had to memorize a huge monologue that was rewritten 3 times right before the show.

I 100% agree with you about the factions. Even the stupid factions were seemingly important just because factions are awesome. I mean DOA, the Oddities, and Los Barequas(lets pretend that spelling is even close) were basically no more threatening than 3MB were, but because factions were a thing, it elevated a lot of pretty mediocre at best guys, especially when they got matched up against the Hart Foundation, or DX, or the Nation of Domination. I was hoping they were bringing that back with the Shield and the Wyatt family, but I guess not.

Also, I feel a big part of what made Austin so special, was that he wasn't in any of those factions. One lone wolf in a sea of factions is a big reason why he was such a must see. Now, almost everybody is a lone wolf, and the most interesting full-time person(Rollins) is in a faction.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Binge watched the first three episodes of the "Attitude Era" RAWs yesterday while working around the house.

Not everything was amazing. Austin has a Port-A-John lowered down from the rafters to put Golddust in it. Terry Funk spent hours in a wooden crate just so he could chainsaw out of it very awkwardly. The King still wrestling. Undertaker talking, just the worst of ideas.

But so much of it was good. Vince giving a speech about "The Cure for the Common Show" pretty much admitting that they were going for shock and soap opera along with athletic displays. Early DX skits. Mick Foley doing all kinds of Mick Foley things. Only two hours of programming, split to make each hour seem different and special. Loved the fact that there were a ton of factions. Felt like a huge gang war with your single heroes here and there. Today's product could improve itself greatly if it went back to having more groups of guys.

My favorite was HBK/HHH having their own "finger poke of doom", but pulling it off so much better than Hogan/Nash did later on.

The attitude era gets looked at through extremely rose colored glasses for the most part. It wasn't necessarily better than it is today, it just had better booking, especially in the main event. I'd argue the wrestling itself is FAR inferior.

The promos were light years ahead, I chalk that up more to creative freedom than anything else. Imagine if 1998 Undertaker had to memorize a huge monologue that was rewritten 3 times right before the show.

I 100% agree with you about the factions. Even the stupid factions were seemingly important just because factions are awesome. I mean DOA, the Oddities, and Los Barequas(lets pretend that spelling is even close) were basically no more threatening than 3MB were, but because factions were a thing, it elevated a lot of pretty mediocre at best guys, especially when they got matched up against the Hart Foundation, or DX, or the Nation of Domination. I was hoping they were bringing that back with the Shield and the Wyatt family, but I guess not.

Also, I feel a big part of what made Austin so special, was that he wasn't in any of those factions. One lone wolf in a sea of factions is a big reason why he was such a must see. Now, almost everybody is a lone wolf, and the most interesting full-time person(Rollins) is in a faction.

My man, you are spot on. Cliff notes:

The actual wrestling now is light years ahead of the Attitude era. That time, (while ridiculously awesome) was Shock & Awe.

Finishes were done extremely well at that time, OR, we are getting older and wiser to the game.

Promos in that time will never be duplicated. I can only think of CM Punk's pipe bomb that can rival anything even remotely close to that. "Hi Colt Cabana!" Still

I am still watching.

 

[SlaX]

Binge watched the first three episodes of the "Attitude Era" RAWs yesterday while working around the house.

Not everything was amazing. Austin has a Port-A-John lowered down from the rafters to put Golddust in it. Terry Funk spent hours in a wooden crate just so he could chainsaw out of it very awkwardly. The King still wrestling. Undertaker talking, just the worst of ideas.

But so much of it was good. Vince giving a speech about "The Cure for the Common Show" pretty much admitting that they were going for shock and soap opera along with athletic displays. Early DX skits. Mick Foley doing all kinds of Mick Foley things. Only two hours of programming, split to make each hour seem different and special. Loved the fact that there were a ton of factions. Felt like a huge gang war with your single heroes here and there. Today's product could improve itself greatly if it went back to having more groups of guys.

My favorite was HBK/HHH having their own "finger poke of doom", but pulling it off so much better than Hogan/Nash did later on.

That's so interesting. I watched these same episodes yesterday too while working on some work stuff at home. During that time in '97, I was purely a WCW fan and rarely watched Raw. Oddly enough, I remember each of these episodes, so they must have been some of the ones I watched part of, which was surprising to me considering that it happened during the time around Starrcade '97. IIRC, I probably watched that second one live because that was the night that the nWo took over Nitro and spent the better part of an hour changing the set around to make it nWo Nitro and that bored me to tears. Raw got my viewership that night.

- I had to look up this Tom Brandi guy to see why they were pushing him so much. Well, if you call a program with Marc Mero a push.

- Scott Taylor was also a guy that wrestled against Mero and I thought, "Isn't that Scottie 2 Hottie?" One Google search later, sure enough it was.

- The Sultan? Poor Rikishi.

- Oh, and I forgot how terrible The Artist Formerly Known as Goldust was. ewww.

This is the year Austin started sending out 3:16 pages (pagers, remember those?) all the superstars in the back to fear him in the Royal Rumble, if I recall correctly. I can't wait to get into WWF '98 post-Mania. I think that's when I really started enjoying Raw more than Nitro. I remember vividly the debut of Edge and Christian. They were feuding against each other before they became a part of the Brood. Looking forward to that again to see if it matches how I remember.

Oh, and it was funny seeing the Rock do a People's Elbow with no crowd response. Don't these people know that he's their future!?

 

[RBM]

Put me in the loving factions camp. They really do make better use of the roster imo.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

It's been a little bit since we've had a broader discussion on wrestling podcasts. I'm curious if I'm missing any that are out there? Here's what I've been listening to regularly (for better or worse):

• Steve Austin (Adult and Family-Friendly versions): This show is top notch when he has booked guests. When it's just him with Ted Fowler or his wife, then it's generally a pass. I was very disappointed to hear the WWE decided to go with Jericho over Austin for their periodic interview shows on the Network.
• JR: I love JR's opening monologue on his weekly thoughts. He consistently delivers some gems of knowledge. His guests can be of the old-timey variety, but he still gets interesting content from everyone.
• Cheap Heat (Grantland): I like the weekly news analysis, but Peter Rosenberg is such a gigantic dousche. I'm really listening only for David Shoemaker at this point, but it's becoming tougher and tougher.
• Straight Shoot: The weekly Raw analysis shows are done much better than the classic show recaps (not a fan of the Vanilla Midget sidekick and the gratuitous swearing that doesn't show up as much in the Raw shows).
• Jericho: This one is really hit or miss depending on the guests. I almost always have to skip through the first 15 minutes of the show as it's filled with commercials and Jericho's cornball commentary on whatever. I hate to admit it, but Jericho is pretty cheezball now.

I tried getting into Wade Keller's show last year, but got turned off by the incessant pimping of the paid subscriber option. Should I give it another try? Are Piper's or Goldberg's podcasts any good? Anything else?

Try "The Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast". The guys recap, in great detail and comedy, all the pay-per-views of the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. One of the guys, along with being a wrestling nut, is a professional voice actor. He does fantastic, over-the-top impersonations of Vince, Triple H, and many others. To me, it's hands down the funniest wrestling podcast.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Big ted fowler 361 fan here

 

[Bogart]

Another thing that I liked that I don't feel like they are doing anymore, but everyone seemed to have heat/rivalries with more than one faction/person at a time.

DX calling out the Nation, while still telling the New Age Outlaws to know their place, while still fighting LOD, while setting up HBK v. Undertaker. Undertaker v. HBK, yet dealing with Kane. (Side note on Taker: was so strange seeing him every single week and sometimes multiple segments. Still doesn't give him the right to talk. He stumbled worse than anyone today). Austin feuding with the Rock and everyone in the Nation but also doing work against Golddust. Everyone in the Nation not only fighting Austin but Ken Shamrock. Every tag team was feuding with at least one team but also calling out the champs.

Again it goes back to the belts being important. (Except the European Title, but can you blame them?)

 

[RBM]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

Uneventful Raw. Other than Orton's RKO fest, nothing of note happened.

Hard to believe this was a PPV go home show.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

Uneventful Raw. Other than Orton's RKO fest, nothing of note happened.

Hard to believe this was a PPV go home show.

I had no clue their was even a PPV again this Sunday until read it this morning.

Haven't watched a minute of Raw since the day after-Mania RAW. First time in my life I've not been weekly watcher of RAW (to some extent). I'll still read the results but have finally cut it out entirely from viewing standpoint. To me, it's become like trying to watch baseball/golf/NASCAR. If I thought WWE would change their format anytime soon, I'd consider tuning in again. Guess I'll get my WWE fix watching old PPVs.

You hit the nail on the head why I no longer watch [''nothing of note happened'']. If I miss a few weeks/months worth of Raw......what have I really missed? I mean really what's advanced since Mania nearly a home ago??? Where's the 'entertainment' in World Wrestling Entertainment nowadays?

 

[Trey]

The fact that Kane and the Big Show are still main event players with the roster of younger potential stars at their disposal makes me ill. Creative has just totally lost its way outside of a few bright spots (Rollins cash in) or when they are saved by a great technic wrestling match by one of the underutilized players.

 

[MattFancy]

Has anyone fallen faster after Mania than Reigns? I read a recap from last night and he seems like spare part at this point.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Another thing that I liked that I don't feel like they are doing anymore, but everyone seemed to have heat/rivalries with more than one faction/person at a time.

DX calling out the Nation, while still telling the New Age Outlaws to know their place, while still fighting LOD, while setting up HBK v. Undertaker. Undertaker v. HBK, yet dealing with Kane. (Side note on Taker: was so strange seeing him every single week and sometimes multiple segments. Still doesn't give him the right to talk. He stumbled worse than anyone today). Austin feuding with the Rock and everyone in the Nation but also doing work against Golddust. Everyone in the Nation not only fighting Austin but Ken Shamrock. Every tag team was feuding with at least one team but also calling out the champs.

Again it goes back to the belts being important. (Except the European Title, but can you blame them?)

agreed this was great.. .it like they think the audience is not smart enough to understand multi-dimensional conflicts.

But then again, they presume the audience can't remember 3 weeks ago.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

Uneventful Raw. Other than Orton's RKO fest, nothing of note happened.

Hard to believe this was a PPV go home show.

Hard to believe any part of extreme is included in "kiss my ####"

:taffer: SHUT IT THE HELL DOWN

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

Uneventful Raw. Other than Orton's RKO fest, nothing of note happened.

Hard to believe this was a PPV go home show.

I had no clue their was even a PPV again this Sunday until read it this morning.Haven't watched a minute of Raw since the day after-Mania RAW. First time in my life I've not been weekly watcher of RAW (to some extent). I'll still read the results but have finally cut it out entirely from viewing standpoint. To me, it's become like trying to watch baseball/golf/NASCAR. If I thought WWE would change their format anytime soon, I'd consider tuning in again. Guess I'll get my WWE fix watching old PPVs.

You hit the nail on the head why I no longer watch [''nothing of note happened'']. If I miss a few weeks/months worth of Raw......what have I really missed? I mean really what's advanced since Mania nearly a home ago??? Where's the 'entertainment' in World Wrestling Entertainment nowadays?

You sound like a perfect candidate for the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast.

 

[Tom Servo]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

Uneventful Raw. Other than Orton's RKO fest, nothing of note happened.

Hard to believe this was a PPV go home show.

Not technically banned...

Regarding rumors of WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins having his Curb Stomp finisher banned by the company, the move has not been banned but Rollins will be using the new DDT-facebuster type move he used on RAW to defeat Dolph Ziggler.Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter described Rollins using a new move as a "semantic situation" and said WWE does not want to draw attention to the Curb Stomp no longer being used but it is not banned.

 

[Jeremy]

The fact that Kane and the Big Show are still main event players with the roster of younger potential stars at their disposal makes me ill. Creative has just totally lost its way outside of a few bright spots (Rollins cash in) or when they are saved by a great technic wrestling match by one of the underutilized players.

They're in the main event scene, but they're really more jobbers used to get the main event guys over. Their size and their past make them credible opponents for anybody. But yeah, I think they need to move on from those guys. They make people want to turn the channel. Wrong kind of heat.

I actually like the Kane storyline, though. It seems likely the authority is setting Orton up by feigning discord again. I imagine he'll be the reason Rollins goes over on Sunday, but I wish they'd continue on this path of inner turmoil for Kane. Maybe have Rollins go over on Kane in a retirement match. Don the red mask one more time before riding off into the sunset.

 

[JMon348]

The fact that Kane and the Big Show are still main event players with the roster of younger potential stars at their disposal makes me ill. Creative has just totally lost its way outside of a few bright spots (Rollins cash in) or when they are saved by a great technic wrestling match by one of the underutilized players.

They're in the main event scene, but they're really more jobbers used to get the main event guys over. Their size and their past make them credible opponents for anybody. But yeah, I think they need to move on from those guys. They make people want to turn the channel. Wrong kind of heat.

I actually like the Kane storyline, though. It seems likely the authority is setting Orton up by feigning discord again. I imagine he'll be the reason Rollins goes over on Sunday, but I wish they'd continue on this path of inner turmoil for Kane. Maybe have Rollins go over on Kane in a retirement match. Don the red mask one more time before riding off into the sunset.

There has to be one more spot with Kane and Taker, right?

 

[OC Zed]

The fact that Kane and the Big Show are still main event players with the roster of younger potential stars at their disposal makes me ill. Creative has just totally lost its way outside of a few bright spots (Rollins cash in) or when they are saved by a great technic wrestling match by one of the underutilized players.

They're in the main event scene, but they're really more jobbers used to get the main event guys over. Their size and their past make them credible opponents for anybody. But yeah, I think they need to move on from those guys. They make people want to turn the channel. Wrong kind of heat.

I actually like the Kane storyline, though. It seems likely the authority is setting Orton up by feigning discord again. I imagine he'll be the reason Rollins goes over on Sunday, but I wish they'd continue on this path of inner turmoil for Kane. Maybe have Rollins go over on Kane in a retirement match. Don the red mask one more time before riding off into the sunset.

There has to be one more spot with Kane and Taker, right?

This would be the most fitting way to go out. Can they rig this up for Summer Slam?

 

[OC Zed]

It sounds like there are a bunch of people not watching Raw these days. Does anyone know what the ratings are like compared to the pre-WM buildup and versus the ratings from this time last year?

 

[travdogg]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

That really sucks. The curbstomp was arguably the best finisher in the company right now, and it really isn't any more dangerous than a DDT.

 

[OC Zed]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

That really sucks. The curbstomp was arguably the best finisher in the company right now, and it really isn't any more dangerous than a DDT.

I honestly have no idea how they pull the curb stomp off. It looks horrific, particularly the ones Orton were taking on the steps pre-WM.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

The curbstomp was arguably the best finisher in the company right now, and it really isn't any more dangerous than a DDT.

Depends where you're doing that DDT...

"Steamboat began his next feud with Jake "The Snake" Roberts. Their feud began when Roberts attacked him before their match on the May 3 edition of Saturday Night's Main Event, which did not occur due to Roberts assaulting Steamboat. Roberts was initially reluctant to deliver the DDT on the concrete floor due to his fear that Steamboat would not be able to stop his head from hitting the floor, which, on this particular occasion, was not covered with protective mats. Vince McMahon and booker George Scottwere adamant that the spot take place outside the ring. Only after assurances by Steamboat that he would protect himself did Roberts agree to it. Unfortunately, Roberts' fears came true and Steamboat was legitimately knocked out when his forehead hit the concrete. Roberts later described the sound as like a watermelon bursting."

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15kmn4_jake-the-snake-roberts-ddt-steamboat_travel

 

[RBM]

Heenan

"Hey Steamboat, that's using your head"

 

[RBM]

They're really going to put Reigns vs Big Show on in front of a Chicago crowd huh. Oh boy...

 

[Bogart]

They're really going to put Reigns vs Big Show on in front of a Chicago crowd huh. Oh boy...

I make it a short match. Don't give the crowd time to derail. Make it a really stiff match. Both guys really lay it in. The goal it to get two or three images to go into Reigns' "Look how 'real' tough this guy is" montage, building on the Brock match. Needs an insane Spear spot that somehow Show always seems to get out of Reigns. I would have a "Rocky III" spot where Reigns' Superman Punch is countered with Big Show's KO punch. Lays out both men in the middle of the ring. Then the "Rocky II" ending where both men are climbing the ropes and Reigns just barely gets up at 9 as Show slumps in the corner.

 

[HellToupee]

Bo sporting facial hair a foreshadowing of a reunion with his big brother?

 

[travdogg]

Wow, looks like the rumors of the curb stomp being banned are true. Rollins won with a new finisher tonight.

That really sucks. The curbstomp was arguably the best finisher in the company right now, and it really isn't any more dangerous than a DDT.

I honestly have no idea how they pull the curb stomp off. It looks horrific, particularly the ones Orton were taking on the steps pre-WM.

It really is 100% on the guy taking it. It is nothing more just a front bump, no different than a DDT, or that DDT variant that Rollins did last night, or an RKO for that matter, other than the person doing it doesn't wrap their arm underneath. It even leaves open a window for the person receiving it to land forearm first if they so chose, like Reigns did for example.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

They're really going to put Reigns vs Big Show on in front of a Chicago crowd huh. Oh boy...

Oh Lord. These guys are STILL fighting??

They had at least 3 singles matches this year pre-Mania to 'help get Reigns over'. Maybe since Show won the Andre Battle Royal it'll actually work this time

 

[Ghost Rider]

It sounds like there are a bunch of people not watching Raw these days.

I haven't watched since the one after WM. I still keep up on what is going on by reading highlights, but nothing makes me want to watch. And when playoff hockey is on, it doesn't have a prayer.

 

[Brady Marino]

They're really going to put Reigns vs Big Show on in front of a Chicago crowd huh. Oh boy...

Oh Lord. These guys are STILL fighting??

They had at least 3 singles matches this year pre-Mania to 'help get Reigns over'. Maybe since Show won the Andre Battle Royal it'll actually work this time

If Vince has the beginning stages of dementia, this would be good proof of it.

 

[mr fancypants]

Bo sporting facial hair a foreshadowing of a reunion with his big brother?

In a way, this could actually work with getting "Brother Bo" Dallas over.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Bo sporting facial hair a foreshadowing of a reunion with his big brother?

I'd have liked the new look (along with a change in character) after the start of a program with Bray. (Having Bray film vignettes and taped promos with Bo in them). Really would have been perfect to have done it during/immediately after Bo's long injury absence recently.

As far as Bo's new look, not a fan alongside his current character. I'm a huge fan of the character. WWE massively blundered it with him. To the point if they can't get it right with him, who will they with?? He was a slam dunk. The guy is as much as the total package as you're going to find with a peformer at 24 years old.

 

[Smack Tripper]

A repeated mantra i heard from both the boys as well as still collected alumni in the wrestlemania build, was, if you don't like it, why are you watchng it/don't watch it. I don't know if it was a coordinated talking point.

But.... Baseball is back, hockey and hoops have two months of playoffs and I have two Raws sitting on my dvr that I feel no reason to watch. I have it auto set to record. I used to skim them, maybe find that good 10-15 minutes to watch.

So thanks for that cavalier suggestion guys. I feel so free. Found some podcasts I enjoy and If there is ever a reason to go back I'm in. I'm sure when lesnar comes back or they build to wrestlemania 32.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Bo sporting facial hair a foreshadowing of a reunion with his big brother?

I'd have liked the new look (along with a change in character) after the start of a program with Bray. (Having Bray film vignettes and taped promos with Bo in them). Really would have been perfect to have done it during/immediately after Bo's long injury absence recently.As far as Bo's new look, not a fan alongside his current character. I'm a huge fan of the character. WWE massively blundered it with him. To the point if they can't get it right with him, who will they with?? He was a slam dunk. The guy is as much as the total package as you're going to find with a peformer at 24 years old.

I must be missing something with Bo. Doesn't seem like anything special to me...mid card comedy relief.

 

[Bogart]

Triple H on the Tim Ferriss podcast is a must listen. I gain more and more respect for HHH every time I hear him in an interview setting. Ferriss for those that don't know wrote The 4-Hour Workweek, 4-Hour Chef and 4-Hour Body and is someone obsessed with world class performance, the rituals and routines of those people and how to learn from that.

Great 90 mins of content. HHH is going to have the best book(s) when he takes the time to sit down and write them.

 

[RBM]

Kliq reunion coming to the network this summer. Triple H really taking care of his boys.

 

[OC Zed]

Bo sporting facial hair a foreshadowing of a reunion with his big brother?

I'd have liked the new look (along with a change in character) after the start of a program with Bray. (Having Bray film vignettes and taped promos with Bo in them). Really would have been perfect to have done it during/immediately after Bo's long injury absence recently.As far as Bo's new look, not a fan alongside his current character. I'm a huge fan of the character. WWE massively blundered it with him. To the point if they can't get it right with him, who will they with?? He was a slam dunk. The guy is as much as the total package as you're going to find with a peformer at 24 years old.

I must be missing something with Bo. Doesn't seem like anything special to me...mid card comedy relief.

This. I've mentioned it a number of times, but I never understood how that kind of a comedy act could ever garner major heat in a feud with another wrestler. And if you can't really get heat as a heel in a storyline with someone else, then you're just left doing one-off shtick on Smackdown.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Bo sporting facial hair a foreshadowing of a reunion with his big brother?

I'd have liked the new look (along with a change in character) after the start of a program with Bray. (Having Bray film vignettes and taped promos with Bo in them). Really would have been perfect to have done it during/immediately after Bo's long injury absence recently.As far as Bo's new look, not a fan alongside his current character. I'm a huge fan of the character. WWE massively blundered it with him. To the point if they can't get it right with him, who will they with?? He was a slam dunk. The guy is as much as the total package as you're going to find with a peformer at 24 years old.

I must be missing something with Bo. Doesn't seem like anything special to me...mid card comedy relief.

They never let his gimmick play out. It reminded me a lot of how Jericho started his transition in WCW. You could tell he had what it took. I felt the same about bo-lieve

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Kliq reunion coming to the network this summer. Triple H really taking care of his boys.

It was bad enough when they were in their thirties and still talking and acting like they were high school cool kids. I'm not sure if I want to see guys in their fifties still acting like that. Looking at you, Nash.

 

[B-Deep]

Bo sporting facial hair a foreshadowing of a reunion with his big brother?

I'd have liked the new look (along with a change in character) after the start of a program with Bray. (Having Bray film vignettes and taped promos with Bo in them). Really would have been perfect to have done it during/immediately after Bo's long injury absence recently.As far as Bo's new look, not a fan alongside his current character. I'm a huge fan of the character. WWE massively blundered it with him. To the point if they can't get it right with him, who will they with?? He was a slam dunk. The guy is as much as the total package as you're going to find with a peformer at 24 years old.

I must be missing something with Bo. Doesn't seem like anything special to me...mid card comedy relief.

They never let his gimmick play out. It reminded me a lot of how Jericho started his transition in WCW. You could tell he had what it took. I felt the same about bo-lieve

armbar

 

[B-Deep]

1 - Arm Drag
2 - Arm Bar
3 - The Moss Covered, Three Handled Family Grudunzle
4 - Arm Bar
5 - The Saskatchewan Spinning Nerve Hold
6 - Body Slam
7 - Drop Toe Hold
8 - Arm Bar
9 - Shooting Star Staple Super Press
10 - Right Handed Arm Bar
11 - Lionsault
12 - Knife Edge Chop
13 - Arm Bar
14 - Piledriver
15 - Jericho Arm Bar
16 - Canadian Arm Drag
17 - Canadian Maple Leaf
18 - Arm Bar
19 - Liontamer
20 - Missile Drop Kick
21 - Drop Kick
22 - Jericho Back Breaker
23 - Kick
24 - Missile Drop Kick Off The Top Rope
25 - Side Head Lock
26 - Arm Bar....

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/sam-roberts-wrestling-podcast/e/37709450?autoplay=true

Miz and Summer Rae on Sam Roberts Podcast. Miz really going at the IWC. I fear he's right about Sandow...not sure he's going to succeed without the Mizdow gimmick.

 

[OC Zed]

1 - Arm Drag
2 - Arm Bar
3 - The Moss Covered, Three Handled Family Grudunzle
4 - Arm Bar
5 - The Saskatchewan Spinning Nerve Hold
6 - Body Slam
7 - Drop Toe Hold
8 - Arm Bar
9 - Shooting Star Staple Super Press
10 - Right Handed Arm Bar
11 - Lionsault
12 - Knife Edge Chop
13 - Arm Bar
14 - Piledriver
15 - Jericho Arm Bar
16 - Canadian Arm Drag
17 - Canadian Maple Leaf
18 - Arm Bar
19 - Liontamer
20 - Missile Drop Kick
21 - Drop Kick
22 - Jericho Back Breaker
23 - Kick
24 - Missile Drop Kick Off The Top Rope
25 - Side Head Lock
26 - Arm Bar....

Don't forget the dot matrix printer paper.

 

[travdogg]

1 - Arm Drag
2 - Arm Bar
3 - The Moss Covered, Three Handled Family Grudunzle
4 - Arm Bar
5 - The Saskatchewan Spinning Nerve Hold
6 - Body Slam
7 - Drop Toe Hold
8 - Arm Bar
9 - Shooting Star Staple Super Press
10 - Right Handed Arm Bar
11 - Lionsault
12 - Knife Edge Chop
13 - Arm Bar
14 - Piledriver
15 - Jericho Arm Bar
16 - Canadian Arm Drag
17 - Canadian Maple Leaf
18 - Arm Bar
19 - Liontamer
20 - Missile Drop Kick
21 - Drop Kick
22 - Jericho Back Breaker
23 - Kick
24 - Missile Drop Kick Off The Top Rope
25 - Side Head Lock
26 - Arm Bar....

Don't forget the dot matrix printer paper.

That was an amazing promo, probably one of the best ever, but going back and watching it, watch Jericho's match right before against late-career Marty Jannetty. The Liontamer has never EVER looked better, Jannetty looks like he's gonna snap in half.

 

[B-Deep]

1 - Arm Drag
2 - Arm Bar
3 - The Moss Covered, Three Handled Family Grudunzle
4 - Arm Bar
5 - The Saskatchewan Spinning Nerve Hold
6 - Body Slam
7 - Drop Toe Hold
8 - Arm Bar
9 - Shooting Star Staple Super Press
10 - Right Handed Arm Bar
11 - Lionsault
12 - Knife Edge Chop
13 - Arm Bar
14 - Piledriver
15 - Jericho Arm Bar
16 - Canadian Arm Drag
17 - Canadian Maple Leaf
18 - Arm Bar
19 - Liontamer
20 - Missile Drop Kick
21 - Drop Kick
22 - Jericho Back Breaker
23 - Kick
24 - Missile Drop Kick Off The Top Rope
25 - Side Head Lock
26 - Arm Bar....

Don't forget the dot matrix printer paper.

That was an amazing promo, probably one of the best ever, but going back and watching it, watch Jericho's match right before against late-career Marty Jannetty. The Liontamer has never EVER looked better, Jannetty looks like he's gonna snap in half.

it is about my favorite thing ever

EVERY time i see it i laugh and laugh

 

[Gary Coal Man]

1 - Arm Drag

2 - Arm Bar

3 - The Moss Covered, Three Handled Family Grudunzle

4 - Arm Bar

5 - The Saskatchewan Spinning Nerve Hold

6 - Body Slam

7 - Drop Toe Hold

8 - Arm Bar

9 - Shooting Star Staple Super Press

10 - Right Handed Arm Bar

11 - Lionsault

12 - Knife Edge Chop

13 - Arm Bar

14 - Piledriver

15 - Jericho Arm Bar

16 - Canadian Arm Drag

17 - Canadian Maple Leaf

18 - Arm Bar

19 - Liontamer

20 - Missile Drop Kick

21 - Drop Kick

22 - Jericho Back Breaker

23 - Kick

24 - Missile Drop Kick Off The Top Rope

25 - Side Head Lock

26 - Arm Bar....

Don't forget the dot matrix printer paper.

That was an amazing promo, probably one of the best ever, but going back and watching it, watch Jericho's match right before against late-career Marty Jannetty. The Liontamer has never EVER looked better, Jannetty looks like he's gonna snap in half.

I was recently listening to an interview with Jake Roberts on terrestrial radio. The host was talking to Jake about the now well known story of how DDP saved Jake and Scott Hall from near certain drug related deaths. The host then asked Jake which wrestler he suspects will be the next to die if he doesn't get help soon. Usually people will duck such a dark question because they don't want to air other people's dirty laundry. Jake didn't waste a second in answering the question, though. He quickly and matter-of-factly said Marty Jannety.I knew Marty was a drug-related trainwreck, but I didn't know he was Jake level trainwreck.

 

[OC Zed]

I was recently listening to an interview with Jake Roberts on terrestrial radio. The host was talking to Jake about the now well known story of how DDP saved Jake and Scott Hall from near certain drug related deaths. The host then asked Jake which wrestler he suspects will be the next to die if he doesn't get help soon. Usually people will duck such a dark question because they don't want to air other people's dirty laundry. Jake didn't waste a second in answering the question, though. He quickly and matter-of-factly said Marty Jannety.

I knew Marty was a drug-related trainwreck, but I didn't know he was Jake level trainwreck.

I don't think there was any other reason why Jannety never had a long career as a mid to upper-card talent. Every time he seemed to get a push, he'd go and get arrested or fail a drug test. Michaels wisened up enough to stay employable during his run in the 90s. Janetty, not so much.

 

[Eminence]

If the curb stomp is banned, they should let Seth Rollins use the Pedigree.

 

[travdogg]

I was recently listening to an interview with Jake Roberts on terrestrial radio. The host was talking to Jake about the now well known story of how DDP saved Jake and Scott Hall from near certain drug related deaths. The host then asked Jake which wrestler he suspects will be the next to die if he doesn't get help soon. Usually people will duck such a dark question because they don't want to air other people's dirty laundry. Jake didn't waste a second in answering the question, though. He quickly and matter-of-factly said Marty Jannety.

I knew Marty was a drug-related trainwreck, but I didn't know he was Jake level trainwreck.

I don't think there was any other reason why Jannety never had a long career as a mid to upper-card talent. Every time he seemed to get a push, he'd go and get arrested or fail a drug test. Michaels wisened up enough to stay employable during his run in the 90s. Janetty, not so much.

Yeah, I remember hearing the story being that when they were planning to split the Rockers up that Jannetty was going to get the big singles push, but Vince switched to Michaels when Jannetty showed up to some meeting so drunk he could barely speak coherently. Somewhat similar thing happened after Bulldog won the IC title from Bret Hart, Bulldog immediately failed a drug test for steroids, at the worst possible time, so they moved the IC title to Michaels and fired Bulldog shortly thereafter.

 

[Tom Servo]

Kliq reunion coming to the network this summer. Triple H really taking care of his boys.

How can we miss you if you won't go away?