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[ShamrockPride]

That episode was straight f###en garbage. Only the modern day WWE could waste such a tremendous opportunity. Raw is War? Try Raw is Recaps. I'm sure someone out there keeps track, I would guess to say that it was 1 hour of wrestling to 2 hours of promos/recaps. What a steaming pile of s###.

You have what will probably be the highest ratings of the year straight off of blood and Shane coming back. You have more buzz among casual viewers than you've had in at least 3 years. And you choose to squander the opportunity with recap after recap and tease Undertaker all night...for him to come out and speak 2 sentences. They literally spent more time teasing it than his time in the ring. You don't even have Shane on at all. 

They have a complete s###fest women's match finish with a completely unexplainable ending. Then you have Steph who comes out and chirps each week with no repercussions. The reason this whole Authority angle has failed is because unlike with Vince's power trip in the 90's, there's no Steve Austin to humble her mouth, and beat the s### out of her. So she just gets to talk s### with no consequences.

They now have 4 weeks to advance this Shane story, and I'm starting to get the sense they have no idea what they want to do with it.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

I think we're getting Bullet Club siding with Shane to beat UT.....then the Monday after WM when Shane cuts his promo....he'll say something to the extent that he saw these guys while he was China/Japan and he brought them with him...... 

I don't want to be a downer, but anyone thinking the Bullet Club is important enough to debut at Mania and change the direction of the entire WWE is fooling themselves...and don't chalk that up to WWE having bad writing or being stuck in their ways. The Bullet Club guys are bit players...if you want to have your first Shane O Mac match in 8 years killed by 90% of the crowd looking confused, go ahead and insert them in your fantasy booking. WWE isn't going to do that. 

MAYBE they get involved in the NXT event Mania weekend - that's the ceiling for impact they can have in a debut.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

That episode was straight f###en garbage. Only the modern day WWE could waste such a tremendous opportunity. Raw is War? Try Raw is Recaps. I'm sure someone out there keeps track, I would guess to say that it was 1 hour of wrestling to 2 hours of promos/recaps. What a steaming pile of s###.

You have what will probably be the highest ratings of the year straight off of blood and Shane coming back. You have more buzz among casual viewers than you've had in at least 3 years. And you choose to squander the opportunity with recap after recap and tease Undertaker all night...for him to come out and speak 2 sentences. They literally spent more time teasing it than his time in the ring. You don't even have Shane on at all. 

They have a complete s###fest women's match finish with a completely unexplainable ending. Then you have Steph who comes out and chirps each week with no repercussions. The reason this whole Authority angle has failed is because unlike with Vince's power trip in the 90's, there's no Steve Austin to humble her mouth, and beat the s### out of her. So she just gets to talk s### with no consequences.

They now have 4 weeks to advance this Shane story, and I'm starting to get the sense they have no idea what they want to do with it.

I pretty much agree here...I thought we were going to be sprinting through Mania after the 2/22 episode of RAW. Instead, we got a cool down episode. I guess I can see the thinking - WWE hoped lots of eyes would tune in yesterday, and they wanted to catch them up on all of the stories - but it made it pretty boring for those of us who tune in each week.

The positives: I really liked the sarcasm/intensity mix Ambrose struck with his time in the ring with HHH. Even my non-fan wife was into it. I also thought Stephanie was really good with her promo. 

The neutral: Taker pretty much just being fine with the match rang a little false, but it keeps the story simple. I was a little worried the story would get out of hand with Vince looking for ways to force Taker to wrestle (I could maybe buy saying his career was on the line...by not taking the match or by losing).

the negatives: I don't know what is going on with New Day. Are they turning face with their videos about the League of Nations? But then they wrestle faces, so they aren't faces? I'm just confused at this point...I don't like shades of gray. 

 

[Thunderlips]

I don't want to be a downer, but anyone thinking the Bullet Club is important enough to debut at Mania and change the direction of the entire WWE is fooling themselves...and don't chalk that up to WWE having bad writing or being stuck in their ways. The Bullet Club guys are bit players...if you want to have your first Shane O Mac match in 8 years killed by 90% of the crowd looking confused, go ahead and insert them in your fantasy booking. WWE isn't going to do that. 

MAYBE they get involved in the NXT event Mania weekend - that's the ceiling for impact they can have in a debut.

Fair point.  I'm just hoping for something other than:

1) Cena champions Shane O Mac. 

2) Shane O'Mac wins against the UT due to help from _______________* (insert underachieving yet recognizable current WWE star here like Ryback)

3) Shane O loses......thus not advancing the story in any way, shape or form.

4) Shane O, with that legendary McMahon drive,......shocks the world and beats UT clean. 

WM has the ability to have some great moments....more so than HHH v. Reigns; this is the match that needs the "OH ####" moment. 

 

[Peak]

My thought on this is that when/if Shane beats Taker, then we would see a shift in development on TV.  I can see Smackdown becoming an every week home for NXT on TV.  WWE creative isn't using all of their TV time and we're seeing the same things over and over.  Why not take the roster split idea and bring NXT back to TV on a show like Smackdown.  Rebrand it and make it useful.  Leave Raw as a stand alone show each week focused on the main eventers, with the NXT show focused on the up and coming talent.  Yes they tried this on the SyFy network previously, but USA has more drawing power than SyFy for this demographic.  It would gain a little more momentum for NXT in the national spotlight and it may actually mean something when/if they do move from one show to the other.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

That episode was straight f###en garbage. Only the modern day WWE could waste such a tremendous opportunity. Raw is War? Try Raw is Recaps. I'm sure someone out there keeps track, I would guess to say that it was 1 hour of wrestling to 2 hours of promos/recaps. What a steaming pile of s###.

You have what will probably be the highest ratings of the year straight off of blood and Shane coming back. You have more buzz among casual viewers than you've had in at least 3 years. And you choose to squander the opportunity with recap after recap and tease Undertaker all night...for him to come out and speak 2 sentences. They literally spent more time teasing it than his time in the ring. You don't even have Shane on at all. 

They have a complete s###fest women's match finish with a completely unexplainable ending. Then you have Steph who comes out and chirps each week with no repercussions. The reason this whole Authority angle has failed is because unlike with Vince's power trip in the 90's, there's no Steve Austin to humble her mouth, and beat the s### out of her. So she just gets to talk s### with no consequences.

They now have 4 weeks to advance this Shane story, and I'm starting to get the sense they have no idea what they want to do with it.

40 year old non-physical non-performer Stephanie/47 year old HHH too concerned about getting themselves over. I've said it a million times, the only time you see something edgy.......it will involve them putting themselves over. And winds up making the current everyday talent look like ####. They've finally started to book Ambrose like the lunatic they've been trying to shove down audience throats for almost 2 years..........but that Raw open with him/HHH made him look awful.  (As bad as that moronic photo op between HHH/Reigns at the end of Fastlane where they just stared at each other)  

 

[Jeremy]

The best RAWs are usually the ones right after a PPV. The worst are usually the week after that.  My guess is they don't want to blow their wad while there are still almost 5 weeks until WrestleMania.  Or they don't know what they're doing.  That's possible too.  But my sense is they're building the story slowly so it peaks at WM. 

Not to beat a dead horse, but their biggest problem remains their being too many hours to fill.  Raw is at least 1 hour too long, and now they're trying to make Smackdown less of a filler show and a bigger deal.  By the time the next PPV comes along, we've seen many of the matches already, or the feuds have gone stale.  New Day has been great, but they've already grown stale because we see them twice a week. 

 

[godgers12]

I think we're getting Bullet Club siding with Shane to beat UT.....then the Monday after WM when Shane cuts his promo....he'll say something to the extent that he saw these guys while he was China/Japan and he brought them with him...... 

Yup, agree here, setting up a invasion of sorts and pitting them against the WWE roster, will be bad ### if booked right 

 

[MattFancy]

Yup, agree here, setting up a invasion of sorts and pitting them against the WWE roster, will be bad ### if booked right 

It would be interesting if he could get a bunch of the NXT guys to side with. Use HHH's guys to help secure control of RAW. That would be an interesting storyline going forward.

 

[Tom Servo]

Lucha Underground had two great matches on last night. Fenix vs. King Cuerno for the Gift of the Gods championship was seriously intense. At one point, the crowd went silent just before (IIRC) Fenix got Flair chopped to the chest. Pentagon Jr. vs. Prince Puma wasn't as intense but still lots of action before Muertes interfered.

One  aspect is that Aztec Warfare will be on the 23rd and 20 guys/gals will fight to become the #1 contender. BUT, the GotG championship holder is the de facto #1 contender as set up by El Jefe and reiterated by Matt Stryker last night.

And calling 423-GET-FAME...  

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I don't want to be a downer, but anyone thinking the Bullet Club is important enough to debut at Mania and change the direction of the entire WWE is fooling themselves...and don't chalk that up to WWE having bad writing or being stuck in their ways. The Bullet Club guys are bit players...if you want to have your first Shane O Mac match in 8 years killed by 90% of the crowd looking confused, go ahead and insert them in your fantasy booking. WWE isn't going to do that. 

MAYBE they get involved in the NXT event Mania weekend - that's the ceiling for impact they can have in a debut.

You might be able to get them a big debut pop on the raw after Mania.  But Mania itself is not the right venue for it.

 

[Village Idiot]

Lucha Underground had two great matches on last night. Fenix vs. King Cuerno for the Gift of the Gods championship was seriously intense. At one point, the crowd went silent just before (IIRC) Fenix got Flair chopped to the chest. Pentagon Jr. vs. Prince Puma wasn't as intense but still lots of action before Muertes interfered.

One  aspect is that Aztec Warfare will be on the 23rd and 20 guys/gals will fight to become the #1 contender. BUT, the GotG championship holder is the de facto #1 contender as set up by El Jefe and reiterated by Matt Stryker last night.

And calling 423-GET-FAME...

Yeah that fake commercial spot was insanely funny.

I thought the Fenix, Cuerno match was crazy good and betetr than Puma and Pentagon Jr.

So with Muertes looking like a super Cena heel this week, where do you think this is leading since Muertes said he wanted and looks like he is getting Puma and

Pentagon Jr. both in a match next week?

Has to be a 3 way, and I don't see anyway they let the title fall off Mil this soon with how they have now built him to be so powerful.

And LOL at him taking off the sling and his arm looking like nothing ever happened to it.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Heard on the radio today that The Rock may have a part in the ME at WM.

Does he save Shane and become part of ownership of RAW?

 

[Tom Servo]

Heard on the radio today that The Rock may have a part in the ME at WM.

Does he save Shane and become part of ownership of RAW?

Ugh.

 

[Tom Servo]

Kevin Nash and Brandi Chastain will donate their brains to CTE research.

Both Nash and Chastain explained their decisions to donate by citing symptoms they believe to be the results of concussions. Nash told ESPN that he’s been knocked out in the ring before and woken up not knowing where he was, and that he’s been more emotional in recent years.

 

[Brady Marino]

Kevin Nash and Brandi Chastain will donate their brains to CTE research.

There's no jar that could contain Nash's ego.

 

[Tom Servo]

There's no jar that could contain Nash's ego.

 

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Bray vs Brock added to RoadBlock - that's going to be another one of those surprise fun events, like the event in Japan and the MSG house show. 

 

[Thunderlips]

Bray vs Brock added to RoadBlock - that's going to be another one of those surprise fun events, like the event in Japan and the MSG house show. 

That's a nice match.  Are WM matches set in stone or are we seeing the beginnnings of maybe changing the matches to better jibe with the fans' wishes? Maybe have Ambrose win the belt and him face Reigns; with the Wyatts moving against Lesnar and then pushing UT out and going with HHH v. Shane O Mac?

 

[MattFancy]

That's a nice match.  Are WM matches set in stone or are we seeing the beginnnings of maybe changing the matches to better jibe with the fans' wishes? Maybe have Ambrose win the belt and him face Reigns; with the Wyatts moving against Lesnar and then pushing UT out and going with HHH v. Shane O Mac?

Considering there is WM posters out with HHH vs. Reigns on it for the title, I think it's doubtful. But Roadblock seems to be the WM the fans wanted.

 

[travdogg]

Dean Ambrose illustrates what WWE and Vince McMahon are missing in their top face. It’s so simple that it can be overlooked, but explained in a word. Vulnerability.

I don’t mean selling. I mean threat. Daniel Bryan was the top of the heap even out on injury. Dolph Ziggler was a star coming out of Survivor Series 2 years ago where he was the absolute last line of defense and stayed on the verge of being finished off. Dean Ambrose has been annihilated two weeks in a row now. What don’t these guys have in common with the most hated faces Roman Reigns and John Cena? Those two are invulnerable. To the point where when Roman Reigns gets brutally battered, people cheer. They cheer Authority Triple H of all people. 

There’s an amount of emotional investment that one needs in a hero. Vince doesn’t comprehend that. He thinks people want Superheroes. He thinks people want invulnerable and unstoppable. Hell, his top Face of the 80's was named The IMMORTAL Hulk Hogan.

Dean Ambrose can be beaten, he can lose. He cannot be defeated, but you can beat him, pin him, crush him, demolish him. But defeat and loss are different thing. That’s kind of a prerequisite in this business, mental toughness. But Ambrose shows it, Ziggler showed it, Bryan showed it, Stone Cold Steve Austin got jumped and beat down by the Hart Foundation and DX plenty, the Nation too, but he kept getting up.

That is more compelling than the guy who can actually steamroll all his opponents by himself. It introduces unpredictability, the lifeblood of this business, and really all entertainment. Only when you believe the guy can lose, can you become invested in the idea of him winning. The invulnerable guy needs to be the heel, the obstacle to overcome for the face. Cena and Reigns are really booked like heels but supposed to act like faces, which both neither makes sense or works.

Which goes back to how “Heel” champ Seth Rollins was booked. Like a face scrounging by against impossible odds. Which feeds into the one undeniable fact. The Authority basically did everything they could to keep Seth Rollins weak in order to ensure his dependency on them. You basically have to be invincible in order to beat the authority in any capacity, or generate sufficient crowd support like Daniel Bryan to deny them any choice. The fact is the problem with the Authority is they’re an immortal heel. The problem IS the Authority.

You will never have proper heel or face dynamics until they’re finished off in the end. I say that because we have no faith that even if Ambrose does win that he won’t immediately be screwed out of the title by the heel he just beat. Ambrose by contrast to Reigns however is like Rollins, just scrounging by against the impossible to beat juggernaut. This is also a huge part of the appeal of Sami Zayn. Zayn, like this version of Ambrose, could lose any match, and you’ll buy it as like “well yeah, eventually he’s had the crap kicked out of him, so I want him to win even more next time.”

On the other hand, Reigns or Cena losing don’t make them seem like anything, they make the other guy seem incredible. Hell, if Cena actually definitively lost a feud, I’m pretty sure that would actively change his character, every bit as much as any realistic heel turn ever could.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

WWE has a worldwide audience and millions of fans. They need to have a mix of flavors so those millions of diverse people can have a favorite wrestler. 

Some people like a juggernaut. Some want an everyman. Others favor an underdog. The smark crowds out there booing Reigns are turning down one of the flavors...I guess they think it'll make their choice taste better. 

One thing I think people miss when justifying booing Reigns for being "shoved down our throats" - Ambrose has been pushed just as hard just as long...but in a different way. 

 

[mr fancypants]

Rhyno to run in 2016 Michigan State Rep. Race

Gore, Gore, Gore

http://www.wrestleview.com/wwe-news/58007-rhyno-running-in-michigan-state-representative-race


Rhyno running in 2016 Michigan State Representative race



Created on Saturday, 05 March 2016 13:29


Written by Adam Martin



Former ECW, WWE and TNA star Rhyno, who has been involved with NXT recently, recently announced he would be running in the 2016 Michigan State Representative race.

WWE.com is featuring an interview with Rhyno (who will run under his real name of Terrance Guido Gerin) including details about his campaign.

"Well, I’ve followed politics for decades. It’s something I’ve always had a passion for. I love my country, I love my state of Michigan and I love the city I live in. It’s something I’ve thought about doing for a while and something I thought, 'Now’s the time to give back.' I’m 40, I can still wrestle full time, and I can still do this … represent people and give them someone they can be proud of."

WWE: Rhyno speaks on his decision to run for State Representative in Michigan

 

[Smack Tripper]

Dean Ambrose illustrates what WWE and Vince McMahon are missing in their top face. It’s so simple that it can be overlooked, but explained in a word. Vulnerability.

I don’t mean selling. I mean threat. Daniel Bryan was the top of the heap even out on injury. Dolph Ziggler was a star coming out of Survivor Series 2 years ago where he was the absolute last line of defense and stayed on the verge of being finished off. Dean Ambrose has been annihilated two weeks in a row now. What don’t these guys have in common with the most hated faces Roman Reigns and John Cena? Those two are invulnerable. To the point where when Roman Reigns gets brutally battered, people cheer. They cheer Authority Triple H of all people. 

There’s an amount of emotional investment that one needs in a hero. Vince doesn’t comprehend that. He thinks people want Superheroes. He thinks people want invulnerable and unstoppable. Hell, his top Face of the 80's was named The IMMORTAL Hulk Hogan.

Dean Ambrose can be beaten, he can lose. He cannot be defeated, but you can beat him, pin him, crush him, demolish him. But defeat and loss are different thing. That’s kind of a prerequisite in this business, mental toughness. But Ambrose shows it, Ziggler showed it, Bryan showed it, Stone Cold Steve Austin got jumped and beat down by the Hart Foundation and DX plenty, the Nation too, but he kept getting up.

That is more compelling than the guy who can actually steamroll all his opponents by himself. It introduces unpredictability, the lifeblood of this business, and really all entertainment. Only when you believe the guy can lose, can you become invested in the idea of him winning. The invulnerable guy needs to be the heel, the obstacle to overcome for the face. Cena and Reigns are really booked like heels but supposed to act like faces, which both neither makes sense or works.

Which goes back to how “Heel” champ Seth Rollins was booked. Like a face scrounging by against impossible odds. Which feeds into the one undeniable fact. The Authority basically did everything they could to keep Seth Rollins weak in order to ensure his dependency on them. You basically have to be invincible in order to beat the authority in any capacity, or generate sufficient crowd support like Daniel Bryan to deny them any choice. The fact is the problem with the Authority is they’re an immortal heel. The problem IS the Authority.

You will never have proper heel or face dynamics until they’re finished off in the end. I say that because we have no faith that even if Ambrose does win that he won’t immediately be screwed out of the title by the heel he just beat. Ambrose by contrast to Reigns however is like Rollins, just scrounging by against the impossible to beat juggernaut. This is also a huge part of the appeal of Sami Zayn. Zayn, like this version of Ambrose, could lose any match, and you’ll buy it as like “well yeah, eventually he’s had the crap kicked out of him, so I want him to win even more next time.”

On the other hand, Reigns or Cena losing don’t make them seem like anything, they make the other guy seem incredible. Hell, if Cena actually definitively lost a feud, I’m pretty sure that would actively change his character, every bit as much as any realistic heel turn ever could.

Great post.  And I would just add, they fed Hogan mainly monsters and you knew there was no way REALLY even as a Mark, that King Kong Bundy or the One Man Gang were going to win the belt but damn he didn't sell his ### off to make you think it was so.  It was a very formula Hogan match, but there is nothing wrong with it being simple sometimes.  

 

[Tom Servo]

Great post.  And I would just add, they fed Hogan mainly monsters and you knew there was no way REALLY even as a Mark, that King Kong Bundy or the One Man Gang were going to win the belt but damn he didn't sell his ### off to make you think it was so.  It was a very formula Hogan match, but there is nothing wrong with it being simple sometimes.  

Agreed. They built up each monster as a legit threat to Hogan, giving you the opportunity to believe that Hogan would/could lose. You can have the right story, but if those involved can't sell it, it's worthless.

 

[Tom Servo]

Ray Traylor (aka Big Boss Man) headed to the WWE HoF

 

[Bogart]

Byron Saxton sounds exactly like Chris Jericho on commentary. That's not a bad thing.

 

[RBM]

I'd be a very happy fan if they gave us an Owens-Zayn-Neville triple threat IC title match at WM. 

 

[dschuler]

I'd be a very happy fan if they gave us an Owens-Zayn-Neville triple threat IC title match at WM. 

It would be great, maybe throw in Balor

 

[RBM]

It would be great, maybe throw in Balor

Nah Balor debut is going to be huge. I think they have big, big plans for him. 

 

[dschuler]

Nah Balor debut is going to be huge. I think they have big, big plans for him. 

I hope so, guy is a stud.  But who knows what they will do.  They squashed the Wyatt thing to a bunch of washed up wrestlers 

 

[Smack Tripper]

I think the Big Bossman may be the greatest big man worker of all time...  Vader was pretty good too, I've heard Don Leo Jonahtan was great albeit in a different era.  But what the Bossman did at his size was something.  I think the saturday night's main event superplex off the cage is THE most underrated bump in WWE history.  Watched that again today its sickl

 

[facook]

So, uh, they kinda rushed that Jericho/Styles blowoff huh?

Also Shane's "punches" were embarrassing. He'd BETTER have a champion at Mania. ?

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Tack Jericho, Styles, and Miz onto the Owens, Zayn, Neville trio mentioned earlier. Add ladders. 

 

[RBM]

I think the Big Bossman may be the greatest big man worker of all time

Bam Bam

 

[Smack Tripper]

Bam Bam

He was a big man spot monkey but I never really loved his work until ECW... he probably could have used more of a big man style.

Where I'm torn is the undertaker, who was no doubt, a big man, but when he worked big man style he sucked.  But he had some great matches with time to lay it out

 

[Brady Marino]

Bam Bam

This. Bam Bam has always been painfully underrated.

 

[lardonastick]

I think the Big Bossman may be the greatest big man worker of all time...  Vader was pretty good too, I've heard Don Leo Jonahtan was great albeit in a different era.  But what the Bossman did at his size was something.  I think the saturday night's main event superplex off the cage is THE most underrated bump in WWE history.  Watched that again today its sickl

Bossman kicked ###.

 

[SlaX]

I'll always remember Bossman for two of the worst matches I've ever seen live.  One was as Big Bubba Rogers in the NWA and the other was the Kennel from Hell match against Al Snow.  He also owns the worst Hell in a Cell match at Wrestlemania XV against Undertaker, where they friggin' hung him up by a noose after the match (which was also the WM debut of Edge and Christian).   Also had the stupid angle stealing Big Shows father's coffin.  He was somewhat entertaining, so I don't hate him.  He passes the Koko B Ware test, so he deserves the Hall induction.  I always thought they should've given him a small IC title reign during his first WWF run (I'd probably have him beating Mr Perfect at Wrestlemania VII, then dropping it later thanks to the Mountie to set up their feud). 

As for best big man, I have to take WCW/New Japan's Vader.  He was lazy in the WWF, though.  

 

[travdogg]

Does Dusty Rhodes not count as a big man? Because if he does, I'd think he's way ahead of all these other guys. 

 

[Abraham]

http://m.imgur.com/84ReDoc?r

yhat was awesome. 

 

[travdogg]

Tack Jericho, Styles, and Miz onto the Owens, Zayn, Neville trio mentioned earlier. Add ladders. 

I feel like that would be a gigantic waste of Owens and Zayn. They have easily the most emotional feud in WWE, and deserve a bigger platform for it, than some scramble match.

Besides, if the midcard title ladder match needs to happen, doesn't it make way more sense to be for Kalisto's US title?

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

I feel like that would be a gigantic waste of Owens and Zayn. They have easily the most emotional feud in WWE, and deserve a bigger platform for it, than some scramble match.

Besides, if the midcard title ladder match needs to happen, doesn't it make way more sense to be for Kalisto's US title?

I suppose WWE still has enough time to educate fans on the Owens/Zayn history. Hardcore fans know the story, but a lot of casual fans might not. It's pretty late in the game to have Zayn show up and get the shot. Also, I think the belt needs to stay on Owens post-Mania. The Owens/Zayn singles match blowoff for the belt could be a SummerSlam feature so that it can build up for a few months...Also, I think AJ Styles is WAY more over than Sami Zayn. AJ is at an IC level already - I can't say the same for Sami without additional build up.

Is the US title still highly regarded enough to warrant 5 or 6 guys putting themselves at risk in a ladder match to win it? 

You just know there has to be a spot fest match in the mix. It could be a TLC thing with the Dudleys, Usos, and a third team (Wyatts?)...how about a tag team version of the money in the bank? Then you can do a singles match for the IC title and throw the rest of the mid-card guys (that deserve more shine than the battle royal) into an 8 man tag or something. 

 

[Ghost Rider]

I think the Big Bossman may be the greatest big man worker of all time...  Vader was pretty good too, I've heard Don Leo Jonahtan was great albeit in a different era.  But what the Bossman did at his size was something.  I think the saturday night's main event superplex off the cage is THE most underrated bump in WWE history.  Watched that again today its sickl

Agreed.  It looks like child's play now, but in 1989, that was a monster spot. 

 

[Tiger Fan]

this entire "road block" event is so ridiculous.  Why would you book stuff there instead of Raw when you're trying to build momentum

 

[Tiger Fan]

[No message]

 

[Bogart]

this entire "road block" event is so ridiculous.  Why would you book stuff there instead of Raw when you're trying to build momentum

Roadblock is clearly the "Wrestlemania for the IWC". It's the matches you want to see at WM, but can't because they need WM to cater to the casual fan. Summerslam 6 months early if you will. Plus it provides 2 PPV type events inside a month's time for new subscribers. If you didn't already have the network, you might try it to get both events.

 

[Smack Tripper]

this entire "road block" event is so ridiculous.  Why would you book stuff there instead of Raw when you're trying to build momentum

Simply, Roman will be booed out of the building right now.  They're selling wrestlemania: the event instead of Wrestlemania: the matches. 

Even the shane stuff lost momentum on Monday. 

You can tell there must be real life heat because they actually feel the need to go out of their way to say they love each other on screen. 

The more logical dynamic would seem to be Shane vs. Steph with Vince torn or interceding, not the other way around. 

Shane didn't even address Steph's comments from last week.  But I'll be patient and give it time. 

But to your point, its a stilted build to mania right now. 

 

[Tom Servo]

Just for @mr fancypants here's another Melissa Santos picture. Happy Lucha Underground day!!!

 

[lardonastick]

Sami vs. Joe ruled with an iron fist. A weekly episode that should be remembered for a long time. Everyone involved was awesome: Regal, Sami, Joe, the ref, and both announcers made this match feel so big-time. 4.5 stars, and early MOTYC.

As an aside, it felt like they could "easily" hit ***** if they wanted.