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after last night, I agree totally... Let Seth bump around for Sting, have that always present intrigue of Orton turning heel and sting being prone to get turned on... probably too late to do it at this point
I saw those guys on Reddit, the Jake and Macho Man guys were standouts... I don't see how they could rightly have them change or be removed... hopefully this inspired thousands of more "glory days" costumes that they have to deal with.
The tag team play was to put Sting and Ziggler together...with Dolph coming out in a flat top, face paint, and pants.
Did you know Lucha Underground doesn't allow any trademarks of any kind in their audience? If you wear a Nike shirt in, they make you take it off.
Being in the crowd of a televised product does not give you unlimited rights to do whatever you want. If you want to sit in a heavy televised area, you have to respect the rules. It isn't just big bad WWE being mean to select fans - it happens all of the way down to the independent darlings.
This is true, but this was just a dumb decision by WWE. These fans' costumes weren't obscene, hindering any of their current story lines or pushing any competing product. Rather, they added to what should be a festive atmosphere... the kind that WWE and its competitors used to encourage during pro wrestling's biggest heyday. Given how bad the current product is at times, they should look for any reason for viewers to stay tuned in.
I see a lot of the LU mask shirts in the crowd. I wonder if that might be the reason...that and to sell some T-shirts.
Sorry I think Nike/Lucha is just an absolute terrible example (when comparing to this). One point I agree with is fans can't just do what they want.
https://twitter.com/Laufered/status/577694547704066048
He loses points for me when it comes to mic work, considering most of his "here's the thing..." promos are long-winded and a chore to get through as a viewer.
I like the theory on this. Makes good business sense and doesn't destroy Lesnar's gimmick as unstoppable monster.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/03/17/wwe-tells-fans-to-remove-their-vintage-wrestler-costumes-or-forfeit-their-ringside-seats-on-raw/
I don't even need to read the article to know that this is the biggest spoiler you can find.
One theory is that Heyman will turn on Lesnar in favor of newest Heyman guy Reigns.
It's not like Bruno wrestled against scrubs. He wrestled pretty much all the stars of the era.
I understand the argument against including Bruno... he was the beneficiary of being a champion in the biggest market largely in part based on his ethnic background. Moreover, his style of wrestling and character didn't translate at all to any later generation of wrestling (as witnessed during his comebacks in the 1980s). You couldn't say the same about guys like Austin, Flair, Rock, Hogan, Dusty, etc.
Andre is a tougher case to make in excluding him from the top 10 unless you are minimizing drawing power and emphasizing ring and mic work.
The list is supposed to be those sports entertainers who define, popularize or re-define the face of professional wrestling. To me, Bruno Samartino had more of an impact on wrestling than most on the list. The guy was in the industry for like four decades.
I understand the argument against including Bruno... he was the beneficiary of being a champion in the biggest market largely in part based on his ethnic background. Moreover, his style of wrestling and character didn't translate at all to any later generation of wrestling (as witnessed during his comebacks in the 1980s). You couldn't say the same about guys like Austin, Flair, Rock, Hogan, Dusty, etc.
Andre is a tougher case to make in excluding him from the top 10 unless you are minimizing drawing power and emphasizing ring and mic work.
The Ultimate Warrior? Shawn Michaels? Yeah, there's room for Bruno to boot out one of these two.
If you read the comments, most people were upset that the Undertaker wasn't on the list.
Flair at #6 is criminal. As much of a mark as I am, Flair and Hogan are 1 and 1a. However you rank them is really personal opinion at that point.The list is supposed to be those sports entertainers who define, popularize or re-define the face of professional wrestling. To me, Bruno Samartino had more of an impact on wrestling than most on the list. The guy was in the industry for like four decades. According to the list (link below) the top 10 are:
I understand the argument against including Bruno... he was the beneficiary of being a champion in the biggest market largely in part based on his ethnic background. Moreover, his style of wrestling and character didn't translate at all to any later generation of wrestling (as witnessed during his comebacks in the 1980s). You couldn't say the same about guys like Austin, Flair, Rock, Hogan, Dusty, etc.
Andre is a tougher case to make in excluding him from the top 10 unless you are minimizing drawing power and emphasizing ring and mic work.
10. Sting
9. The Macho Man Randy Savage (oh yea. I want me some Elizabeth)
8. The Ultimate Warrior
7. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper
6. Ric Flair
5. Bret Hart
4. The Rock
3. Shawn Michaels
2. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
1. Hulk Hogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFYRoMMtRFE
The Ultimate Warrior is played by Milana Vayntrub - Lily from the AT&T commercials (@MintMilana).HHH is played by Chloe Dykstra (@skydart)
No Bruno is crazy. He has to be top-5. He's the longest running champion in history and I believe 3 of the 5 longest runs belong to him.
Warrior being on that list is a joke, he had 3-4 years of relevancy. No matter what you are grading by, Warrior is tough to rank top-25 let alone top-10. Someone brought up HHH maybe being top-25 earlier, but I think he's WAY ahead of Warrior.Flair at #6 is criminal. As much of a mark as I am, Flair and Hogan are 1 and 1a. However you rank them is really personal opinion at that point.The list is supposed to be those sports entertainers who define, popularize or re-define the face of professional wrestling. To me, Bruno Samartino had more of an impact on wrestling than most on the list. The guy was in the industry for like four decades. According to the list (link below) the top 10 are:
I understand the argument against including Bruno... he was the beneficiary of being a champion in the biggest market largely in part based on his ethnic background. Moreover, his style of wrestling and character didn't translate at all to any later generation of wrestling (as witnessed during his comebacks in the 1980s). You couldn't say the same about guys like Austin, Flair, Rock, Hogan, Dusty, etc.
Andre is a tougher case to make in excluding him from the top 10 unless you are minimizing drawing power and emphasizing ring and mic work.
10. Sting
9. The Macho Man Randy Savage (oh yea. I want me some Elizabeth)
8. The Ultimate Warrior
7. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper
6. Ric Flair
5. Bret Hart
4. The Rock
3. Shawn Michaels
2. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
1. Hulk Hogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFYRoMMtRFE
Muertes/Fenix was easily the best thing that Lucha Underground has put out since it started, and they've put out a lot of good (and some not so good) stuff. The match told the story of how Muertes is this possessed monster and Fenix is this poor, yet talented guy who got had the misfortunte of getting mixed up with the stupidly hot Catrina. Awesome match that told an awesome story and even had a satisfying finish. Loved it.
Hbk never drew. They almost went out if business with him as champion.
Eh, you could say the same thing about Kane.
Um, no. Kane never had a top run nor was he ever really considered a top guy like Taker. Plus, while Taker was Taker, Kane was an evil dentist and fake Diesel. So no, you can't say the same about Kane. Not even close.
