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Luke Harper knee surgery. Likely looking at lengthy absence.
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WWE may be looking at Eric Young to join Wyatts. I could see that working quite well
Oh boy. I thought with the nice preview of Shane o'Mac and Taker was to hype the match. Still trying to figure out why UT is doing VKM's bidding other than...reasons? I geeked out when Shane hit that spot even though he missed. Later, when your heel champion is getting cheered and his face challenger is getting booed for beating down said heel champion...oof.I guess there's the answer who will be last match. HHH-Reigns. Cole seemed to drive that point into the ground 75 times during the last segment. They're trying so hard to get people to care. They just don't. I'm looking forward to Raw after Mania (hoping they change something up with Reigns) than the match itself.
Shane-Taker was solid. Better than what they've been doing. Even if it's just flat lazy writing. You're "Vince's #####" has been the only thing they've said week after week. Shane came up short on the elbow but unbelievable athletic ability for a 46 year old man that has no need to be doing spots like that at this stage of his life. Particularly as a non-wrestler who hasn't taken bumps in many years.
I really didn't have a great desire to watch this show so only caught beginning and end. I give credit to anyone that's able to watch this product for 3+ straight hours.
its amazing to get older and live through stuff.... and you see as an older fan, what used to be a backhanded laugh at the preposterous nature of HHH positioning himself as:Just thinking how they'd legitimately come up with a way for Ambrose to beat Lesnar (even in this gimmick match) is funny. Ambrose, who just lost clean, to soon to be 47 year old exec HHH. Common response will be "Well let's hope they make Ambrose look good in a loss". Didn't they just have that same opportunity at Roadblock with him?
Reading some results from tonight. And the 5th member of babyface diva team at Mania........Eva Marie I'm convinced Vince has no clue of absolutely anything (or anyone) going on with NXT.
It's not Rock. It's not Austin. It's not HBK I'm hoping to see. It is.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E-a7Wi2i2o
Vince has told the Undertaker if he doesn't win it will be the last match he ever wrestles. Additionally Shane has kind of disrespected his legacy, so it's personal now I guess.Oh boy. I thought with the nice preview of Shane o'Mac and Taker was to hype the match. Still trying to figure out why UT is doing VKM's bidding other than...reasons? I geeked out when Shane hit that spot even though he missed. Later, when your heel champion is getting cheered and his face challenger is getting booed for beating down said heel champion...oof.
When HHH was going on that rant last night, I was half expecting The Rock to come out and trash him. Does anyone but HHH really believe he is the best ever?its amazing to get older and live through stuff.... and you see as an older fan, what used to be a backhanded laugh at the preposterous nature of HHH positioning himself as:
-an equal to now virtual superior to Rock and Austin
-above taker and HBK
-well above Foley
And you think who would or could buy this, that the least over member of the four man DX sees himself this way.
But if you push the big lie long enough and hard enough, I've seen younger posters and fans on reddit and other forums that have accepted this narrative finally and you have this guy... the biggest mark for himself this side of Bret Hart, with a wholesale belief in his delusions. That promo to close wasnt workin it was shootin brother.
Anyone have a direct link to this, or is it not on Podcast One yet? I'm searching the website and can't find it.Smackdown spoiler:
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In better news: Vince Russo audio version coming to Podcast One. My favorite wrestling (video) podcast, bro.
Russo starts on Podcast One next Tues April 5.coyote5 said:Anyone have a direct link to this, or is it not on Podcast One yet? I'm searching the website and can't find it.
Though it certainly appears that way, I will believe it when I see it.Trey said:They are absolute fools if they put HHH v Reigns on last.
If they run Taker v. Shane first, and Shane wins.....couldn't they then run some swerve for the Main Event that sets the upcoming years title situation into motion?I just think story wise it makes more sense to have Shane/Taker close the show. If HIAC is first, and taker wins, nobody is gonna give a s*** about the title match cause The Authority will just continue to roll on. At least by having the title match first, you have fans thinking about the consequences of each side, either Shane or Taker winning, and the effect that will have on whoever the champion is.
To each their own but we've watched two different guys.Jeremy said:I may be in the minority, but I think HHH is among the elite in wrestling history. He isn't quite Austin or the Rock, but he's in that next tier. His matches are always excellent and he cuts a great promo. He's understands every part of the business and has worked tirelessly to perfect his craft. He's been accused of burying guys and other things. Maybe that's true, but as a performer it doesn't get much better than him, IMO.
Jon Cena and Bayley will share some merch with the crowd, but nothing as cool as those frisbees.does anyone still throw frisbees out in the crowd that was pretty cool when leapin lenny poffel did that because no one gives out sooveneers any more like that take that to the bank bromigos
Oh I bet you're a big leapin lanny fan. Probably even showed you his special trickdoes anyone still throw frisbees out in the crowd that was pretty cool when leapin lenny poffel did that because no one gives out sooveneers any more like that take that to the bank bromigos
yeah i thought he was a pretty good character but hey keep going and show us how bigoted you can get i am sure you can turn around wherever you were going and make it funny bromigo take that to the bankOh I bet you're a big leapin lanny fan. Probably even showed you his special trickdoes anyone still throw frisbees out in the crowd that was pretty cool when leapin lenny poffel did that because no one gives out sooveneers any more like that take that to the bank bromigos
I doubt you'll get that kind of writing again as long as Vince and Kevin Dunn are in charge. Even when Vince gets an idea of where he wants to go, he loses interest and kills it within a few weeks.I give credit where credit is due. HHH did helluva lot for Orton & Batista and Evolution was great. I just don't think he's done #### since then
HHH had CM Punk (who at the time was IMO hotter than anyone since Austin/Rock) and Lesnar job to him (the couple times a year wrestling exec). And Daniel Bryan's victory over HHH did absolutely nothing additional for Bryan. Bryan was already over as ####. Just like Reigns victory over HHH won't do anything for Reigns either. The days of a victory by a company top guy over HHH meaning something are over. Does nothing but hurt top in their prime stars to be losing to a mid 40s guy in a suit that works a couple times a year.
These current guys aren't getting over or attracting main stream attention due to booking. You can tell they're booking #### on the fly every week. There's no continuity with anything. Go watch the Attitude Era, each episode for every single program on those Raws were pieces of puzzle being put together each week. Nowadays, they've got 500 writers, guys are reading straight off scripts, more afraid to say a wrong word than anything else, and they come off as unbelievable with no emotion. There's not even a need to go back to the Attitude Era schtick......just book some ####### interesting storylines that continue to build week after week with some consistency in them.
What's bigoted about a moonsault?yeah i thought he was a pretty good character but hey keep going and show us how bigoted you can get i am sure you can turn around wherever you were going and make it funny bromigo take that to the bank
Yeah, that lot's full alright.Melissa Santos - ring announcer on Lucha Underground - was sent a junk picture by some guy. So she did what any upstanding girl would do in such a situation - she put him on blast and announced to the twitterverse that he'd done it. When he claimed he was hacked/done accidentally, he asked her why she blasted him. Her response? "I wanted to show by BF how small your penis is."
And since it's Wednesday, a little something for @mr fancypants
Meltzer is saying there's going to be some big spot at the end to put them completely over as babyfaces and the titles would (somehow) get in the way.What's the point of New Day vs LON? We've seen it twice for the titles with the same outcome. We've seen singles matches, tag matches, six man tags on Raw and Smackdown. This isn't for the tag straps so there is no point.
New Day's transformation from awesome heel group, with Big E/Kofi looking like potential all time great champs into this pink unicorn, ### shaking, booty garbage might be the biggest WTF I've seen in years. They are cringe worthy at this point.
Agreed, as it's now blatantly obvious ND doesn't need the belts to help get over - they ARE over. Plus, it makes LON credible as tag champs.Meltzer is saying there's going to be some big spot at the end to put them completely over as babyfaces and the titles would (somehow) get in the way.
Also, you guys are cute thinking HHH doesn't go on last as champ.
I give credit where credit is due. HHH did helluva lot for Orton & Batista and Evolution was great. I just don't think he's done #### since then
HHH had CM Punk (who at the time was IMO hotter than anyone since Austin/Rock) and Lesnar job to him (the couple times a year wrestling exec). And Daniel Bryan's victory over HHH did absolutely nothing additional for Bryan. Bryan was already over as ####. Just like Reigns victory over HHH won't do anything for Reigns either. The days of a victory by a company top guy over HHH meaning something are over. Does nothing but hurt top in their prime stars to be losing to a mid 40s guy in a suit that works a couple times a year.
These current guys aren't getting over or attracting main stream attention due to booking. You can tell they're booking #### on the fly every week. There's no continuity with anything. Go watch the Attitude Era, each episode for every single program on those Raws were pieces of puzzle being put together each week. Nowadays, they've got 500 writers, guys are reading straight off scripts, more afraid to say a wrong word than anything else, and they come off as unbelievable with no emotion. There's not even a need to go back to the Attitude Era schtick......just book some ####### interesting storylines that continue to build week after week with some consistency in them.
Agreed. And that's the job of a booking team to build up the roster. That's why no one is over. There's no reason to get emotionally attached to these wrestlers. (Deliberately calling wrestlers....as opposed to characters)To be fair, there's noone Reigns can beat to improve his situation with a good percentage of the viewing public.
Becoming Corporate Champion really helped The Rock out, and that would be the best way to get Reigns over because everyone knows Reigns is the one the corporate-types at WWE want to succeed!Agreed. And that's the job of a booking team to build up the roster. That's why no one is over. There's no reason to get emotionally attached to these wrestlers. (Deliberately calling wrestlers....as opposed to characters)
The only thing that'll improve Reigns's situation right now is something (A heel turn) as opposed to someone. And if he's booked reasonably at all, big if, he'll wind up being a damn good heel if they let him more freedom with his promos. He just looks like he's reading straight from a script 99% of the time & scared to death of saying a wrong word. I actually really like Reigns. They've just blundered him -- like everyone else on the roster -- by booking. The best booking/promos are those rooted in reality. And theyve got a golden situation with Reigns.
I've been watching a lot of that over the last year or so, and while the talent and storylines were much better, there was still plenty that today's smarks would have complained about. Today's wrestling is much better. People complain about Cena or Reigns' limited moveset. Steve Austin topped the card for years with little more than kicks and punches with a Thesz press and Stone Cold Stunner. Would today's fans have started booing that after a while? I don't know. How long would it take for today's fans to get tired of Al Snow and Bob Holly hitting each other with trash cans all over the building week after week?These current guys aren't getting over or attracting main stream attention due to booking. You can tell they're booking #### on the fly every week. There's no continuity with anything. Go watch the Attitude Era, each episode for every single program on those Raws were pieces of puzzle being put together each week. Nowadays, they've got 500 writers, guys are reading straight off scripts, more afraid to say a wrong word than anything else, and they come off as unbelievable with no emotion. There's not even a need to go back to the Attitude Era schtick......just book some ####### interesting storylines that continue to build week after week with some consistency in them.
I think they're finally starting to book him the way he should have been booked all along. Instead of coming through the crowd, he's coming down the ramp where he looks imposing. Instead of smiling and cracking jokes, he's a pissed off badass. Instead of 10 minute promos they're a minute or 2 at most.Agreed. And that's the job of a booking team to build up the roster. That's why no one is over. There's no reason to get emotionally attached to these wrestlers. (Deliberately calling wrestlers....as opposed to characters)
The only thing that'll improve Reigns's situation right now is something (A heel turn) as opposed to someone. And if he's booked reasonably at all, big if, he'll wind up being a damn good heel if they let him more freedom with his promos. He just looks like he's reading straight from a script 99% of the time & scared to death of saying a wrong word. I actually really like Reigns. They've just blundered him -- like everyone else on the roster -- by booking. The best booking/promos are those rooted in reality. And theyve got a golden situation with Reigns.
I actually can't stand the character as a face. If he were a heel, I'd be more inclined to like him.I think they're finally starting to book him the way he should have been booked all along. Instead of coming through the crowd, he's coming down the ramp where he looks imposing. Instead of smiling and cracking jokes, he's a pissed off badass. Instead of 10 minute promos they're a minute or 2 at most.
But it's all too late. He's too deep in the fans' doghouse to make it as a babyface anymore. So I agree, they need to steer into the skid and make him a heel officially. It's what the fans want, so give it to them.
but you aren't supposed to like heels. This is going to be the issue with Reigns. Once they turn him, the crowd is going to start cheering for him.I actually can't stand the character as a face. If he were a heel, I'd be more inclined to like him.
People seem to forget that The Rock got over first in the Nation of Domination. He didn't just go from "Die Rocky Die" to your Corporate Champion overnight.Becoming Corporate Champion really helped The Rock out, and that would be the best way to get Reigns over because everyone knows Reigns is the one the corporate-types at WWE want to succeed!
No, but Corporate Champion took him to a new level.People seem to forget that The Rock got over first in the Nation of Domination. He didn't just go from "Die Rocky Die" to your Corporate Champion overnight.
Baby steps.No, but Corporate Champion took him to a new level.
But see, I'm different like that.but you aren't supposed to like heels. This is going to be the issue with Reigns. Once they turn him, the crowd is going to start cheering for him.
Legit as champs? Sure. Legit as heels? No. People are still booing out of boredom instead of legit heel heat.Tom Servo said:Agreed, as it's now blatantly obvious ND doesn't need the belts to help get over - they ARE over. Plus, it makes LON credible as tag champs.
The reason why Austin was able to get so insanely over with a limited move set was cause he understood ring psychology as good as anyone ever. Sure the writing helped, but he would be cheered in any era because the guy can just put on an emotionally engaging match. I don't see anybody on the roster today (outside of old school guys like H/Cena/Taker/etc who understands ring psychology. It is a long forgotten part of the profession.I've been watching a lot of that over the last year or so, and while the talent and storylines were much better, there was still plenty that today's smarks would have complained about. Today's wrestling is much better. People complain about Cena or Reigns' limited moveset. Steve Austin topped the card for years with little more than kicks and punches with a Thesz press and Stone Cold Stunner. Would today's fans have started booing that after a while? I don't know. How long would it take for today's fans to get tired of Al Snow and Bob Holly hitting each other with trash cans all over the building week after week?
They also had only 2 hours of Raw and Smackdown didn't come around until late summer of 1999 when they were already dominating in the ratings vs WCW. So they had the advantage of not having an oversaturated product.
Don't get me wrong. It was a better product than what we have now, but everything looks better through the lens of nostalgia.
Austin was a great wrestler with a wide move set prior to Owen driving him into the mat. After that, he had to change his wrestling style and that's where everyone gets his "limited move set". The company as a whole got on a 2 (or so) year run there where they really weren't lighting the world on fire when it comes to work rate. Austin was leading the whole company with a brawling style. It worked, because it was getting over in ECW too. But you're absolutely right about Austin's ring psychology. He was better than pretty much anyone else on the roster, aside from maybe Taker, once Bret went to WCW and Shawn took off to heal his back.The reason why Austin was able to get so insanely over with a limited move set was cause he understood ring psychology as good as anyone ever. Sure the writing helped, but he would be cheered in any era because the guy can just put on an emotionally engaging match. I don't see anybody on the roster today (outside of old school guys like H/Cena/Taker/etc who understands ring psychology. It is a long forgotten part of the profession.
The reason why Austin was able to get so insanely over with a limited move set was cause he understood ring psychology as good as anyone ever. Sure the writing helped, but he would be cheered in any era because the guy can just put on an emotionally engaging match. I don't see anybody on the roster today (outside of old school guys like H/Cena/Taker/etc who understands ring psychology. It is a long forgotten part of the profession.
This documentary is AMAZING (19 minutes in).The Daniel Bryan 24 special is incredible (I'm 6 minutes into it)
Like, I might send more money to Vince McMahon. 9.99 for the network is basically stealing, you guys.This documentary is AMAZING (19 minutes in).
Vince saying "I'll see you at gorilla" is one of the greatest things I've seen on TV. Incorporates everything that makes wrestling so great.Like, I might send more money to Vince McMahon. 9.99 for the network is basically stealing, you guys.