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Steroids have to be in there - that stuff went to trial and these interviews would give wwe a chance to spin. Maybe this explains why Hogan is back in good graces... 

I think Owen will be there too. Important moment for many and the case was settled. 

Deaths post-wwe career maybe covered as a group, and wwe can spin it to say they tried to help many of the individuals. 

How much will they say about Trump? Linda has stood by him steadfast through everything so far. 
I've heard Shane and both Steph and Hunter aren't Trump fans. I know for a fact Shane isn't but haven't confirmed the Hunter/Steph stuff. I think it's mostly Vince and Linda who are friends with him. 

 
not sure if anyone heard about this but there was a fan in a bullet club shirt who was late to the All In show. His plane was delayed and stuck on the runway and he found Y2J at the airport. He snapped some photos behind his back and Y2J's bodyguard or whoever was with him picked up on him. He came over and the dude knew he was caught already trying to delete the photos The guy was cool about it and he showed him he deleted the pics. However all these dirt sheets are making this guy look like a bad guy. The dude is from Fort Lauderdale and his wife is in the NAVY so she only has certain leave times. They flew from FL to Chi that day. The dude worked some production in California and noticed the guy who was with Jericho as someone important so he kept an eye on him. Basically stood out from the way he was dressed plus had some sort of press/backstage pass #5 or so on his bag he carried. They got into the airport and he was handing around a guy with a tattoo and sleeveless shirt. His wife said she thought it was Y2J and closer look he realized it was him. They were all walking fast and this guy was in front of Jericho and the Caretaker/bodygaurd (Jericho also had some sort of pass on him) and behind his back snapped a few photos. one photo this dude with Y2J you see clearly looking up but pointing to the guy with the camera (really cool shot). On the Podcast y2J talks about it not knowing about the incident as he was in the restroom. The guy with him said he noticed the guy who took the photos while on the plane and saw him later in the airport around the time he and his wife noticed y2J with him. So both parties noticed each other pretty fast. The dude with Jericho didn't say anything bad about the guy either. 

Either way turns out the podcast I listen too had the guy who snapped the photos and he's a patreon on the show. Also he didn't realize it but he never fully deleted his pictures and has them up on his twitter page. He said he wouldn't have posted the pics till after Jericho was seen anyway and seemed like a good guy. However the dirt sheets are painting this guy as someone who almost ruined the show. Y2J talked about it on his podcast recently if you want to give it a go. 

 
not sure if anyone heard about this but there was a fan in a bullet club shirt who was late to the All In show. His plane was delayed and stuck on the runway and he found Y2J at the airport. He snapped some photos behind his back and Y2J's bodyguard or whoever was with him picked up on him. He came over and the dude knew he was caught already trying to delete the photos The guy was cool about it and he showed him he deleted the pics. However all these dirt sheets are making this guy look like a bad guy. The dude is from Fort Lauderdale and his wife is in the NAVY so she only has certain leave times. They flew from FL to Chi that day. The dude worked some production in California and noticed the guy who was with Jericho as someone important so he kept an eye on him. Basically stood out from the way he was dressed plus had some sort of press/backstage pass #5 or so on his bag he carried. They got into the airport and he was handing around a guy with a tattoo and sleeveless shirt. His wife said she thought it was Y2J and closer look he realized it was him. They were all walking fast and this guy was in front of Jericho and the Caretaker/bodygaurd (Jericho also had some sort of pass on him) and behind his back snapped a few photos. one photo this dude with Y2J you see clearly looking up but pointing to the guy with the camera (really cool shot). On the Podcast y2J talks about it not knowing about the incident as he was in the restroom. The guy with him said he noticed the guy who took the photos while on the plane and saw him later in the airport around the time he and his wife noticed y2J with him. So both parties noticed each other pretty fast. The dude with Jericho didn't say anything bad about the guy either. 

Either way turns out the podcast I listen too had the guy who snapped the photos and he's a patreon on the show. Also he didn't realize it but he never fully deleted his pictures and has them up on his twitter page. He said he wouldn't have posted the pics till after Jericho was seen anyway and seemed like a good guy. However the dirt sheets are painting this guy as someone who almost ruined the show. Y2J talked about it on his podcast recently if you want to give it a go. 
What?

 
Real Reason Punk Left

ADR 

What Vince Really thinks about Indy Stars

John Cena's affairs with divas

Real reason why Vince hates ECW 

Vince and Roman's sexual relationship 

Most likely anything to do with politics especially Trump

Chris Beniot (Though that goes under several categories in the above


Anything truthful about Vince.


WWE to release "tell all" book.

Subjects guaranteed NOT to be in the book:

1. Snuka's murder of his GF;

2. Savage - Steff;

3. Steroid era/trial;

4. Owen Hart's death;

5. All drug-related deaths;

6. Pat Patterson/ring boys

Any others?
The list is endless.

Publicly traded company with "tell all" book. :lmao:  

 
So I just got quote on Twitter today by Jack SLade AKA Fozzy's Production Manager & VIP Rep at Fozzy (Sony Music Ent.). Remember how I talked about the ALLIN Airport thing? Well the dirt sheets have been ####ting on the guy who took the pics. Not realizing he found the pics he deleted in his cloud and posted them THREE DAYS AFTER THE SHOW. Anyway some no name guy made a comment on twitter when I was trying to find the photos so I could link them here. Here's my comment:

"Next time maybe Jericho and his body guard shouldn't look so obvious. Y2J didn't know about the incident till he got out of the restroom. Maybe next time they shouldn't have their backstage tags hanging from their packs and y2J shouldn't wear a sleeveless shirt not covering tats"

Jack Slade quote me later

and tweets

"Yeah, I'm such a bodyguard. Y'all know how skinny I am right? Plus, it's tough to hide when you're on the same plane..."

Jack just responded to me 

"Nah it's all good! I'm just not a bodyguard haha Way too small for that"

 
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I caught the first episode of Ring Warriors on WGN. They’re paying for the time as WGN ran the same disclaimer that stations do for infomercials. 

Austin Aries came out with his belt collection and said RW’s brand wasn’t as valuable as his and as such has withdrawn from the title tournament. However, RW made him a minority owner. :lol:  

The wrestling was decent. Marty The Moth did a squash on a guy. I finally got to see Santana Garrett wrestle; the Wonder Woman-like outfit is a nice touch. 

Of course, the first commercial is for a chewable ED tablet. :lmao:  

 
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Hell in a Cell was an excellent PPV. 8/10

Order of most to least favorite matches:

Jeff Hardy vs Randy Orton - great opener, a lot of carnage, more than what you're used to seeing from WWE programming

Alexa Bliss vs Ronda Rousey(c) - I don't care if Ronda never learns how to call a match on TV; if they keep this formula of going all-out prepping for one match per PPV she is golden. She sells so well for a rookie, and Alexa actually proved once and for all she can hold her own now.

Samoa Joe vs AJ Styles(c) - fantastic grudge feel with controversy to keep it going. I don't have much to say besides I have a big AJ bias and think he walks on water and yet I still would have been OK with Joe finally hitting a Muscle Buster (instead of constant tease) and winning.

Becky Lynch vs Charlotte(c) - Becky!!! Great work by both of them to sell Charlotte's left shoulder. Made countering the spear genius.

Rusev Day vs New Day(c) - Aiden English's work in this match was incredible; he had me believing Kofi was going to tap to the Accolade. That was awesome, even if the wrong team won!

The five above were flipping sweet and could easily just be top tier, 1a-1e.

Seth Rollins & Dean Ambrose vs Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre(c) - now please, don't get me wrong with these rankings. This is most likely the best-wrestled match on the card in review, but other than the finish (which was GREAT visually) it never gripped me. I'm more intrigued by Drew literally carrying Dolph away from the ring than what the match offered. Goes to show that a great match is more than just good technical skill; they never got me to buy into the match. Subjective artform, etc.

Braun Strowman vs Roman Reigns(c) - oh this had so much potential! It was really close to very awesome. All it needed to make this my favorite match was for there to be action occurring inside and outside the cell simultaneously. If I could have been shown a wide shot of Braun and Roman tearing into each other while Deanatello scaling the wall with his kendo stick and the four tag team wrestlers battling it out on top, that would have been magnificent. Instead, the two inside laid on the mat for an unbelievable amount of time. I personally adored the finish, mainly because I had told my buddy that's how I'd book it. Brock without the belt being a monster is ####### awesome.

 
Braun Strowman vs Roman Reigns(c) - oh this had so much potential! It was really close to very awesome. All it needed to make this my favorite match was for there to be action occurring inside and outside the cell simultaneously. If I could have been shown a wide shot of Braun and Roman tearing into each other while Deanatello scaling the wall with his kendo stick and the four tag team wrestlers battling it out on top, that would have been magnificent. Instead, the two inside laid on the mat for an unbelievable amount of time. I personally adored the finish, mainly because I had told my buddy that's how I'd book it. Brock without the belt being a monster is ####### awesome.
It works because it keeps Brock in the background as part of a long-term story arc since Angle refused Heyman's request for an immediate rematch. A dirty finish keeps both Reigns and Strowman looking strong.

 
It works because it keeps Brock in the background as part of a long-term story arc since Angle refused Heyman's request for an immediate rematch. A dirty finish keeps both Reigns and Strowman looking strong.
I don't mind a dirty finish, but at least give me a finish.  A pummeled Reigns pinning Braun (or vice versa) a la Shawn pinning Taker after Kane's 1st appearance at the very first HitC match.  Heck, even a double pin.  Anything other than a no-contest.

Beyond the main, thought it was a very strong PPV.  Loved AJ-Joe, loved Dolph/Drew-Shield and the 2nd half of Orton-Hardy, very glad for Becky, oddly impressed by Rousey-Bliss, and the mixed tag was fun.

 
I don't mind a dirty finish, but at least give me a finish.  A pummeled Reigns pinning Braun (or vice versa) a la Shawn pinning Taker after Kane's 1st appearance at the very first HitC match.  Heck, even a double pin.  Anything other than a no-contest.

Beyond the main, thought it was a very strong PPV.  Loved AJ-Joe, loved Dolph/Drew-Shield and the 2nd half of Orton-Hardy, very glad for Becky, oddly impressed by Rousey-Bliss, and the mixed tag was fun.
Should’ve had a finish even if Rollins or Ambrose covered RR over Braun. It was hell in a cell dammit

 
Oh yeah, I had totally forgot Miz & Maryse vs Daniel & Brie was a thing. Lol. I guess the playing keepaway with Maryse was fun.

 
Should’ve had a finish even if Rollins or Ambrose covered RR over Braun. It was hell in a cell dammit
VIDEO: Fans lash out after main event.

I went to WCW's Capitol Combat in DC in 1990. Someone asked Jim Ross what the finish was going to be. He said, "DQ." I thought how could you have a DQ in a cage match. Simple; the Four Horsemen got control of the cage and raised it so they could lay a beatdown on Sting so Flair kept the title.

 
WWE seems to have no idea what the fans want. Take the biggest fan favorite and turn him heel.

Shove Reigns down everyone's throat for years.

Last night ending was garbage.  

 
SlaX said:
That was the PPV where Robocop showed up, wasn't it?


That is was.  Using that template, Reigns was Flair, Braun was Luger, and Brock was Robocop.
I may have the year wrong, but there was no Robocop there. It was in DC sometime between 1987 and 1991. 

If I find it, I'll link it up.

ETA: I consulted someone and I was wrong; it was the Robocop PPV. He wasn’t connected to the main event of Flair-Luger.  

 
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Some fan spotted Y2J with Fozzy's Producer Jack Slade at O'Hair before all in. He snapped a few photos and Slade went over and asked the guy to delete them. The dude did and Jericho didn't know about it as he was in the restroom. Chris talked about it on his podcast the next week but the dirt sheets acted like the fan was some scumbag. What the dirt sheets didn't mention was The fan had an iPhone and didn't fully delete the photos. They go into a delete album or go on your cloud. He found them that Mon AFTER THE SHOW AND POSTED THEM ON HIS TWITTER. The podcast I listen too had him on the show a week later and it turns out the guy who took the Photos is a patron. He basically said Jericho and company didn't do a great job of hiding who they were or anything. He didn't make a scene and Slade and Jericho were talking the fan up on their show. 

 
VIDEO: Fans lash out after main event.

I went to WCW's Capitol Combat in DC in 1990. Someone asked Jim Ross what the finish was going to be. He said, "DQ." I thought how could you have a DQ in a cage match. Simple; the Four Horsemen got control of the cage and raised it so they could lay a beatdown on Sting so Flair kept the title.
I watched most of the PPV on my phone at work in and out because Technically I can't have it out at work but there were zero managers there. I had to switch my schedule because they put me on during the Eagles game and worked that night forgetting all about the PPV that night. Either way I thought Hardy/Orton put on a good match. The Tag match with McIntyre/Galloway & Seth/Dean was awesome. I'm getting tired of the New Day as Champs honestly. I wished Rusev Day won. The mixed tag match ended funny. I'm glad Becky won the Title she deserves it again. Charlotte is becoming too much of the Roman of the Women's division and that's a shame because I like Flair. Style/Joe was entertaining what I did see. Everything else was meh. HITC Main Event ending was such trash. I'd surprised the fans didn't throw garbage in the ring because I would've. Such a ####show ending. There was zero need for Brock to be there but it's all to protect Roman. I was so mad with that ending that I didn't even care for RAW last night. Not sure what happened nd don't even care. I was more excited for SD anyway. Honestly not wasting 3 hrs on a show each Monday to see the same matches and same BS endings every week. At least SD has mixed it up. 

 
TMZ news: Apparently former RoH TV champ Marty Scurll is dating Deona Purazzo. He moved to Florida recently and there have been a lot of Instagram/Twitter posts showing them together. Also, Scurll has a new dog, named Winston.

In other news, Chelsea Green showed up last night in Lucha Underground where she

blasted Pentagon Dark in the package to allow Marty the Moth to win the LU championship.


 
TMZ news: Apparently former RoH TV champ Marty Scurll is dating Deona Purazzo. He moved to Florida recently and there have been a lot of Instagram/Twitter posts showing them together. Also, Scurll has a new dog, named Winston.

In other news, Chelsea Green showed up last night in Lucha Underground where she

blasted Pentagon Dark in the package to allow Marty the Moth to win the LU championship.
Dam You Marty. But I live you too much. So I;m still good for Becky and Toni Storm though

 
I've been reading Tim Hornbaker's Death of the Territories and it's a great read.

While VKM gets the "credit" for invading other territories, it was actually Ole Anderson and Georgia Championship Wrestling invading Ohio to scoop up the remnants of The Sheik's Detroit territory that started everything.

Between Ole on WTBS and Vince on WOR, you can start to see the NWA coming apart at the seams as they are confronted with something that the NWA couldn't prevent - the rise of cable TV.

 
You're getting worked 
Jax was out after she faced Ronda for a back injury. James was replaced in her storyline by Fox while she recovered. Bliss had to be replaced in the MMC, which is almost outside kayfabe. These aren't just worked outages. They're not major injuries, but they are causing these women to miss work. 

 
Jax was out after she faced Ronda for a back injury. James was replaced in her storyline by Fox while she recovered. Bliss had to be replaced in the MMC, which is almost outside kayfabe. These aren't just worked outages. They're not major injuries, but they are causing these women to miss work. 
you're getting worked, bro. 

 
I tend to agree with JBBC. Everything everything is a work. There are legitimate injuries that happen, yes.
Except that if it was a work, they'd be doing something with it. Instead, no one mentions it. I'm not talking about when Stephanie or Bliss wear a song around ringside. I'm talking about how James and Jax just disappeared for a while. Or how Bliss, who isn't wearing a sling and was ringside when Jax returned, was just replaced in the MMC. 

They're working around the injuries rather than working them into the stories. And it's because Rousey's a face, and faces don't go around putting people out of commission. That's a heel thing. Faces soundly defeat the heels so everyone knows there's no reason for the heel to come back. 

 
bcdjr1 said:
Except that if it was a work, they'd be doing something with it. Instead, no one mentions it. I'm not talking about when Stephanie or Bliss wear a song around ringside. I'm talking about how James and Jax just disappeared for a while. Or how Bliss, who isn't wearing a sling and was ringside when Jax returned, was just replaced in the MMC. 

They're working around the injuries rather than working them into the stories. And it's because Rousey's a face, and faces don't go around putting people out of commission. That's a heel thing. Faces soundly defeat the heels so everyone knows there's no reason for the heel to come back. 
I follow Mickie James on Instagram; if this was real, she's doing a real bad job of hiding it.

 

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