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DJackson10
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
$$$$ Talks unfortunately and thats what they are doing. I don't want to get too political but unfortunately with this Saudi Thing it could so I guess I'll start it. The Trump and WH comments were sickening and scary too. Apparently the journalist was very anti Trump. This might be the first of many journalists the WH pays off for saying mean things about Trump. This was another step the 3rd Reich took of siezing absolute power in Germany. I'm a history major and it's just disgusting and shocking how similar the tactics are. Like we just had a ####### war to stop this 70 or so yrs ago and we're letting it happen here? Another big thing here is Linda McMahon is pat of Trump's cabinet. He also has a weapons deal with The Saudi's needing to go through and I think some real estate deals in the country.
The sad thing is the Saudi's have gotten away with so much over the years its not even funny and everyone lets them. More then half of the 9/11 attackers were from SA so why the hell did we go to Iraq? The Saudi's also help us pay off our national debt year as well. I already hated the Saudi shows but now it's bad. I think the fans need to take a stand. Unsub the network, stop watching the shows and mentioning WWE
DJackson10
Footballguy
WWE is apparently canceling Crown Jewel SA after the SA Government put a hit on an American Journalists. Rumors are the show may not be entirely canceled and maybe put on in another location. If not many of the matches and such could take place at Survivor Series. New Age Insiders is reporting from a very reliable source WWE has already canceled their trip to the middle Eastern Country and are working on the logistics of a statement for the official statement
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Gawain
Footballguy
I'm struggling with the analogy below:
If it wasn't fair to the MSU student body to strongly punish the athletic body for the actions of those in administration, it's not fair to the WWE fans in Saudia Arabia to punish them for the actions of those in government. Where does this statement fall apart?
If it wasn't fair to the MSU student body to strongly punish the athletic body for the actions of those in administration, it's not fair to the WWE fans in Saudia Arabia to punish them for the actions of those in government. Where does this statement fall apart?
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
The nostalgia marks in the KSA probably will suffer for the political ramifications of what their government has (allegedly) done. People suffer for the actions of their rulers all the time. (
Iran and Cuba)
Gawain
Footballguy
Then why shouldn't MSU students suffer because of the Administration?The nostalgia marks in the KSA probably will suffer for the political ramifications of what their government has (allegedly) done. People suffer for the actions of their rulers all the time. (
On a wrestling note, I think I'm going to drop the Network. Can't carve time out to watch Raw/Smackdown, let alone older stuff.
hagmania
Footballguy
NXT, 205 Live and the tourneys are all good programming tbh. I watch more hours of those than the main roster shows.
I also have to take a break from watching actual matches at times because I can't invest in the suspension of disbelief after continuous exposure. I try to catch all the promos and maybe one set of main roster matches a month. They're all laid out the same in-between PPVs and it just bores me to no end.
I also have to take a break from watching actual matches at times because I can't invest in the suspension of disbelief after continuous exposure. I try to catch all the promos and maybe one set of main roster matches a month. They're all laid out the same in-between PPVs and it just bores me to no end.
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DJackson10
Footballguy
Crowen Jewel is nothing more then a birthday bash for the Prince apparently. It won't be many "normal" you and me type fans at the event. This is apparently a party for the Prince and the Prince is paying WWE big money to have guys like HHH. HBK, Undertaker, Kane, Brock etc there. Vince and creative are basically doing the Prince's bidding.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I haven't seen BFG yet may watch later tonight or tomorrow before SD but theres rumors with Aries done with Impact right now this could be a Russo type worked Shoot.
DJackson10
Footballguy
This is what I got from a guy I follow on Twitter who has a very close source in WWE
This also from him on Most of BC Elite
Tom Servo
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Footballguy
That was actually pretty good. Given she's not great on the mic but she got rolling once she started getting mad.
Tom Servo
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Footballguy
Been lurking. Most of my posts were confined to the Panthers thread in the Pool. Had a lot go on with my wife's health for a while but that's all stabilizing now so I'm working my way back. Good to see you and everyone else again. Always feels like home when I come back. I miss it when I'm gone.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Thats what I think Shane Helms said on a podcast. However there's some speculation that this was a shoot done. AA and Morrison were in a bit of a twitter war recently as well.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I was there last night and the place erupted. The Bellas are from Philly lived awhile with their Grandfather in Philly. When they came out they were getting booed out of the building. Ronda had her best promo in WWE to date last night. Loved how she literally slut shamed the Bellas without using the word either. WWE had to get Seth to give the Cheap Philly pops in the beginning because everytime Roman tried to talk the crowd booed. I saw today that WWE again turned the crowd volume down because being there last night you could hardly hear Seth Talk at times. Someone started a "We Want Gritty" chant during that too. Balor got a huge pop but once Jinder Juice came out talk about killing a crowd. Rush got a good reaching being from ROH. Lita and Trish got big pops as well. A lot of people were disappointed neither BoD or DX made appearances. I was only gonna watch this on TV till my Co worker texted me on Sat (he was at another store last week) and Said he scored free tickets for me and 3 other co workers as he does some production work for WWE when they come to town as an alternate. I didn't see him after the show or today at work. Really wanted to ask him the feeling in the back was about the whole Crown Jewel PPV. I see WWE snaked their way into the typical mention the PPV but not where it is mode though. Vince has a hell of a lot more to lose by going then if he doesn't. If People aren't watching WWE now those on the cusp of leaving are threatening to go and not return.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
That person should've been tossed out on their butt. Gritty is the stuff nightmares are made of. Then again, he's PERFECT for the town that booed Santa Claus.
DJackson10
Footballguy
We booed a drunk guy playing Santa. We only had 3 wins all year the team sucked. The Guy playing him didn't deserve the Booing and snowballs but he said himself for had bombed he was he probably played a ####ty Santa and deserved it. What can I say we voice our opinion to the closes thing around. At the time Santa seemed like an easy targetTom Servo said:
DJackson10
Footballguy
So according to the same guy I posted about two days ago WWE moved all the Saudi Logos and refrences to the country so if needed they can move the show at a moments notice. Like I posted he said WWE already has a venue lined up possible in England considering they have an open date that day.
DJackson10
Footballguy
WWE NXT UK primers in 20 mins on the network. 3PM EST time is when it will be shown. I'm guessing it's an hr like NXT is. Should be fun but it's a lot of wrestling right now for one day. NXT UK, 205 Live 3 hrs later, NXT after and then MYC. Also for me ROH comes on at 11PM Wednesday Nights.
I don’t understand the WWE. They talk about how they’re all about the fans, but they seem to enjoy destroying fan favorites.
Strowman was loved by the fans. So they bundle him with heels, pit him against the Shield, and turn him into a wuss rather than the Monster Among Men. All to push Roman.
On Smackdown, the fans love Becky Lynch so they try to make her into a coward and opportunist. And when that doesn’t work, they bring out a beloved Hall of Famer to give her a scolding and try to turn people against her. All to push Charlotte.
I would think these tactics would just make people dislike Roman and Charlotte all the more.
Strowman was loved by the fans. So they bundle him with heels, pit him against the Shield, and turn him into a wuss rather than the Monster Among Men. All to push Roman.
On Smackdown, the fans love Becky Lynch so they try to make her into a coward and opportunist. And when that doesn’t work, they bring out a beloved Hall of Famer to give her a scolding and try to turn people against her. All to push Charlotte.
I would think these tactics would just make people dislike Roman and Charlotte all the more.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Vince and WWE elite hate people who get over on their own. Podcast I listen too did an interview 3 yrs ago with a former Creative member. he said if you get over on your own and WWE didn't want you over someone else they'll do everything in their power to turn the hype down. Tye Dillinger then hated the 10 chants so they kept him off TV hoping to curb them. Daniel Bryan despite other non WWE Drs clearing him to return WWE wouldn't because he was more over then Roman. Also if you are from another Company coming in good luck because unless Vince likes you well you aren't going over the guys he likes. I think once HHH takes over more you'll see the like of Balor and Owens pushed more as they are his guys. Vince also doesn't watch NXT so that can be a problem too.
Yes it makes the fans hate the even more. Some in the IWC are saying Charlotte is becoming the Roman of the Womans division. The only difference is Charlotte has more talent and was actually liked before hand where as Roman was never liked besides being a Shield guy.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
TBF, you can't listen to the fans all the time. The old adage for GMs is if you listen to the fans in your decision making, you'll soon be sitting with them.
To put things in some context, after Bootista and Daniel Bryan getting the treatment the fans wanted, VKM decided to push Reigns through. This treatment continues to this day. Now, would things be different if Batista had been allowed to be the big guy for a time? Part of me thinks yes, since VKM has his thing for big guys. Bluetista gets his run, exits the stage and maybe you get a run with Bryan and Reigns takes a backseat/stays part of the Shield...or maybe not. The point is, VKM gave the fans what they wanted and was hell-bent on getting his way with Reigns, the fans be damned.
Al O'Pecia
Footballguy
Jim Ross & Chris Jericho Working With Billionaire To Launch New Wrestling Promotion (Exclusive)
The groundwork is being laid for a new wrestling promotion. It involves some of the top players in the industry and financial backing from a billionaire family already involved in professional sports.
Jim Ross and Chris Jericho have been working with renowned agent Barry Bloom in putting the pieces together. JR’s contract with WWE expires shortly and he has declined an offer to renew. He has been sending out feelers to select WWE performers, while Jericho has been handling the New Japan side. Bloom was recently in Japan taking meetings related to this deal.
The project is being financed by the Khan family. Shahid Khan, the patriarch, is one of the wealthiest men on the world (and a colorful personality). He owns the NFL’s Jacksonville Jaguars and Fulham F.C. of the English Premier League. Shahid’s son, Tony, is a big wrestling fan and has been hands-on with getting this off the ground. He follows a few wrestlers on Twitter, including Cody Rhodes, Kenny Omega, The Young Bucks and Marty Scurll.
Cody Rhodes and The Young Bucks are on board, as are Hangman Page and a few others. Kenny Omega’s status is unclear. For what it’s worth, Bill Goldberg is a client of Barry Bloom, along with JR and Jericho. When The Elite has talked about sticking together next year, this is what they’ve been alluding to. Jim Ross has been coy about this on his podcast, vaguely teasing something big on the horizon without showing his cards.
With the A-level talent they are getting commitments from, the group will burn through a ton of cash quickly. They are moving forward with the understanding that significant losses are expected for the first couple years.
Talks are underway with AXS to secure a TV deal. AXS TV executive Adam Swift is fast-tracking this. AXS currently airs New Japan Pro Wrestling and recently announced Jeanie Buss’ Women of Wrestling premieres in January. Sinclair Broadcasting, which provided logistical support for All In and has been acting in good faith, has been in the dark about this story.
The timeline for this going live is 12-16 months from now (late 2019 / early 2020).
The groundwork is being laid for a new wrestling promotion. It involves some of the top players in the industry and financial backing from a billionaire family already involved in professional sports.
Jim Ross and Chris Jericho have been working with renowned agent Barry Bloom in putting the pieces together. JR’s contract with WWE expires shortly and he has declined an offer to renew. He has been sending out feelers to select WWE performers, while Jericho has been handling the New Japan side. Bloom was recently in Japan taking meetings related to this deal.
The project is being financed by the Khan family. Shahid Khan, the patriarch, is one of the wealthiest men on the world (and a colorful personality). He owns the NFL’s Jacksonville Jaguars and Fulham F.C. of the English Premier League. Shahid’s son, Tony, is a big wrestling fan and has been hands-on with getting this off the ground. He follows a few wrestlers on Twitter, including Cody Rhodes, Kenny Omega, The Young Bucks and Marty Scurll.
Cody Rhodes and The Young Bucks are on board, as are Hangman Page and a few others. Kenny Omega’s status is unclear. For what it’s worth, Bill Goldberg is a client of Barry Bloom, along with JR and Jericho. When The Elite has talked about sticking together next year, this is what they’ve been alluding to. Jim Ross has been coy about this on his podcast, vaguely teasing something big on the horizon without showing his cards.
With the A-level talent they are getting commitments from, the group will burn through a ton of cash quickly. They are moving forward with the understanding that significant losses are expected for the first couple years.
Talks are underway with AXS to secure a TV deal. AXS TV executive Adam Swift is fast-tracking this. AXS currently airs New Japan Pro Wrestling and recently announced Jeanie Buss’ Women of Wrestling premieres in January. Sinclair Broadcasting, which provided logistical support for All In and has been acting in good faith, has been in the dark about this story.
The timeline for this going live is 12-16 months from now (late 2019 / early 2020).
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Tom Servo
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Thunderlips
Footballguy
Wow...Roman Reigns has leukemia....giving up the belt.
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DJackson10
Footballguy
Yeah when he came out and started speaking I was like "Holy #### he's turning heel" then a swift kick in the nuts like you were already hit in the stomach. Not good. There were rumors over the weekend apparently that Roman was "injured" but no one put two and two together. Roman from those who saw him seemed fine and him being a top guy he was also not on the house shows the weekend. One would think oh maybe its not bad enough that they cancer his match with Bruan and Brock so its probably precautionary. Can't have your champ hurt going into a PPV as big as that.
Hoos First
Footballguy
IWC- "Vince will try anything to get Roman over"
Im not a fan but hope he gets well.
Im not a fan but hope he gets well.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
It's really a statement about Vince that a small part of me wondered " is this a work?". He is that low.
I have never been one of the Roman haters. I think he's good in the ring but could be better on the mic. The huge constant push did him a real disservice. You got to grow it a bit let the fans find a reason to be into a title run. T&P Joe, hope to see you soon.
I have never been one of the Roman haters. I think he's good in the ring but could be better on the mic. The huge constant push did him a real disservice. You got to grow it a bit let the fans find a reason to be into a title run. T&P Joe, hope to see you soon.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Actually, VKM isn’t that low. Edge had to retire as champion a few years ago and gave a similar speech. Also, when Finn Balor had to surrender the Universal title due to injury.
IOW, when real life intrudes upon story lines, Vince plays it straight.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Personally not sure why people were so hot to see Dean go heel. I think he does the slightly unstable but generally good guy shtick better than the heel shtick. But he has all the heat he could.wsnt right now and unbelievably Seth is even more over as a face. Various sources are saying this is WWE getting back to what they wanted to do before Dean got injured. Leading to a Wrestlemania match between the two.Jayrok said:
Tom Servo
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DJackson10
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
Look up John Moxley CZW and then tell me that Dean doesn't have charisma.Jayrok said:
There’s one thing that bothers me about Roman’s announcement on RAW.
We know that almost every word spoken on air by the announce team is scripted. So why, as Roman was making his way to the ring before making his announcement, were they still hyping his match at Crown Jewel? Did they not know what he was about to do? Why would VKM give them that script seeing as you know he had to know what Roman was doing.
We know that almost every word spoken on air by the announce team is scripted. So why, as Roman was making his way to the ring before making his announcement, were they still hyping his match at Crown Jewel? Did they not know what he was about to do? Why would VKM give them that script seeing as you know he had to know what Roman was doing.
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