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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
And RAW will give him a tribute featuring Hulk Hogan. Seriously.
That'll put butts in seats.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
So who interrupts Cena tonight? Can it please be EC3?
rustycolts
Footballguy
I found this really interesting. It is long but you can watch it a little at a time. Really goes into the ins and outs of wrestling. Plus I really loved Sullivan and Mark Lewin back in the early 70s in Fl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8iw2svNDPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8iw2svNDPE
hagmania
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Would be great, he’s stuck down there awhile probably till at least SS with this new wave of call ups. I wish we got a good surprise but got to wait for Rumble for that.
hagmania
Footballguy
Yeah I know, but if they were trying to ingratiate HH back into the Universe, putting over a young black talent would be a nice step.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
DJackson10
Footballguy
Yeah basically like my guy said when I asked if WWE is putting all it's eggs in the Omega basket or trying to target others as well he basically said Vince and WWE ####ed themselves with trying to push Roman as the top guy and no one else. Said they have Styles as a big name guy but he can't be the only one and why they now are trying to sign Omega. The good thing here with VKM is he knows he will have a top guy so maybe Kenny might be safe till Hunter takes over full time. At the very least Kenny spends a year in NXT and when Vince does the XFL next year Hunter brings him up
DJackson10
Footballguy
I will probably watch the Flyers game instead and this might be the most frustrating team I've seen as a fan in my 30 yrs of watching and are so hard to watch. Yes thats how bad RAW is for me. Might flip back and fourth between periods commercials.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Hogan putting a young guy over? Thats never gonna happen unless he agreed to it as part of coming back to WWE and yes it'd have to be a young black talent.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Good news for anyone who doesn't get Pursuit TV. About time they did this
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BREAKING: Starting THIS FRIDAY and every week IMPACT will stream on @Twitch in the US at 10pm ET simulcasting with the @PursuitChannel airing!
DJackson10
Footballguy
"expect for the show to be big and full of emotions as we go down memory lane for Mean Gene and of course the first show with the full blown changes. Told the show would be better than Raw 25, which they consider the best of 2018"
DJackson10
Footballguy
My guy just told me that his source told him Omega isn't expected to sign with WWE. They were apparently notified of it
DJackson10
Footballguy
Owens and Takahashi reunited with BCOG's at New Years Dash. Owens announced a new contract with NJPW on Twitter
Bullet Club currently consists of: Jay White (leader), Bad Luck Fale, Tama Tonga, Yujiro Takahashi, Chase Owens, Tonga Loa, Hikuleo, Taiji Ishimori, Gedo, Jado, and Robbie Eagles.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Raw Same #### different day
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
First show I watched in a while, and I thought it was quite good. The first hour essentially established RAW's six "contenders" in the Royal Rumble by letting them work a brawl and multi-segment match. Rollins came out of it looking great.
The Mean Gene tribute video was really nice. Hogan seemed really sincere, although it felt weird having him on the show.
Braun and Brock did what they could - I assume Braun isn't ready for contact yet, so flexing and yelling is about all they can offer.
Sasha Banks insta-push seemed kind of out of nowhere, but it goes along with the promise to feature wrestlers the fans have supported. Nice clean win over Nia.
Rollins and Dean put together a nice brawl. It escalated the fight from the TLC match, and the ending worked to move Seth off Dean to Lashley, which had to happen to escalate Seth to the Universal title picture.
It didn't feel like there were wasted segments, which is tough to accomplish in a 3 hour show.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I liked the open, the tag match started extremely slow but the finish was good. Ruthless aggression Seth Rollins is the best. He had to show HHH he wanted it, liked him going back there and slapping the coffee out and getting the match. I hope he turns heel and is back with HHH at some point. Dude needs to be in the main picture not just making the IC title look good.
Hogan was great, thought he wouldn't be but the promo did it's job, solid tribute.
Sasha Banks and the women promo was trash, anytime they say B**** - Nia Jax is garbage. Alexa Bliss will get better in that talk show role, should ask the Miz for advice!
Stroman promo was terrible. See that all the time.
I liked the falls count anywhere stipulation.
babysteps yes, but work to be done. Wonder if they didn't want to do too much with the CFB game on.
Also, Lacey Evans and EC3 were on before raw on "MAIN EVENT" was hoping some new faces we see pre-rumble.
Looking like Cena and Mcyntire are building for mania.
Hogan was great, thought he wouldn't be but the promo did it's job, solid tribute.
Sasha Banks and the women promo was trash, anytime they say B**** - Nia Jax is garbage. Alexa Bliss will get better in that talk show role, should ask the Miz for advice!
Stroman promo was terrible. See that all the time.
I liked the falls count anywhere stipulation.
babysteps yes, but work to be done. Wonder if they didn't want to do too much with the CFB game on.
Also, Lacey Evans and EC3 were on before raw on "MAIN EVENT" was hoping some new faces we see pre-rumble.
Looking like Cena and Mcyntire are building for mania.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
AEW presser this afternoon. Appearances by SCU and announce they have signed with AEW.
Highlights:
1. Cody says wins and losses will matter and you will not be fed faces and heels. You can cheer or boo who you want.
2. Young Bucks come out and announce the Good Hearts from China will be showing up in AEW. They stress they're bringing in the best athletes they can find.
3. Cody and YB announce Double or Nothing for Saturday, May 25th in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand.
4. Brandi says there will indeed be a women's division and that men and women will be paid equally - "no sliding scale"
5. Appearances by Jaguars cheerleaders, Britt Baker, MJF, Joey Janela, Penelope Ford, and PAC (nee Neville).
6. Cody and YB announce second show in Jacksonville - benefits those affected by gun violence.
7. CHRIS FREAKING JERICHO!! He announces he's "all in with All Elite Wrestling". He says he has money already, he wants to change the world (a frequent AEW talking point).
Highlights:
1. Cody says wins and losses will matter and you will not be fed faces and heels. You can cheer or boo who you want.
2. Young Bucks come out and announce the Good Hearts from China will be showing up in AEW. They stress they're bringing in the best athletes they can find.
3. Cody and YB announce Double or Nothing for Saturday, May 25th in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand.
4. Brandi says there will indeed be a women's division and that men and women will be paid equally - "no sliding scale"
5. Appearances by Jaguars cheerleaders, Britt Baker, MJF, Joey Janela, Penelope Ford, and PAC (nee Neville).
6. Cody and YB announce second show in Jacksonville - benefits those affected by gun violence.
7. CHRIS FREAKING JERICHO!! He announces he's "all in with All Elite Wrestling". He says he has money already, he wants to change the world (a frequent AEW talking point).
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Any talk regarding any TV backing? Mega shows for stream buys is cool but this has to eventually create some sort of Monday or Tuesday competition.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
There was nothing said today about it. They've been playing the long game, playing the news cycle for all it's worth.
I imagine an announcement will come out at some point.
DJackson10
Footballguy
The brawl to open or end a show has been so overdone in WWE for years it does nothing for me unless it ends up becoming something memorable like when Becky and SDLive invaded RAW and it ended with a bloody Becky. Plus Lashley no one gives a dam about. Some of it seemed like it wasn't scripted promos but you can tell which of these people need their hands held *Cough Nia Cough***. However we saw most of the same matches again. The Bliss thing was incredible cringe worthyhagmania said:
DJackson10
Footballguy
Think again.. Not with the writers they currently employhagmania said:
DJackson10
Footballguy
I like the Seth bitGottabesweet said:
* Only reason Hogan was brought out for the Mean Gene Tribute was to counter all the boos the dude was gonna get. Know people who know him and my source personally worked with him a few times. What you saw on that leaked Video is the real Hogan at his finest. A racist piece of garbage who only cares about himself. He got over with the Cheap American Patriot gimmick at such the right time. Don't get me wrong I appreciate Hogan helping put WWE and wrestling mainstream but the dude was one of the most overrated promo and in ring work. He was also a piece of trash to Savage for yrs especially when he saw Randy stealing his spotlight. A lot of stories have yet to get out just how trashy he was to Randy and Elizabeth she could probably MeToo the guy for it if she wanted. The overall Tribute was great but I think it was quite tacky putting Hogan out there because of the agenda of WWE reintroduced Hogan to the TV crowd in a way he wouldn't get booed as much. Much would've rather had Graves/Cole or one of the other legends like Slaughter or Flair or even Hunter or HBK do it. WWE used a death to try to get Hogan over with the crowd and hide people from booing
That promo with the women was garbage. Nia's tongue clicks were like nails on a chalk board. The whole promo was terrible. NIA the only reasons she's still employed is she's part of the Rocks family. Any other botching not safe c**t would've been featured endeavored years ago
They paid Lesnar last night 100K for that segment. Let that sink in. Braun really is as dumb as he says he is
The falls count anywhere was a nice stipulation but honestly it's just another DQ match in WWE. They aren't gonna have any blood or big spots like we've seen on IMPACT with Callahan/Edwards or LAX vs The OGz or anything in LU. I'm not saying they need to go Hardcore ECW but any of these stipulation matches anymore are just simple NO DQ matches.
I think thats a terrible excuse not to do stuff. That's when you do stuff so people who missed it go "Oh man I can't believe I missed that!!! I'm gonna watch next week now so I don't miss anything." Thats the perfect time to draw fans back in. Remember when WCW announced Foley winning the title? 500K switched over just to watch it over WCW.
I think it was dumb to debut either one on Main Event. Almost no one watches that and to debut EC3 on there is absolutely embarrassing after the way they built him up in NXT
Yeah I like the feud there with Cena/Drew as long as Drew goes over and looks good. I'd rather see him in the title picture and McIntyre did the same promo almost everyone does on Cena. It's gonna turn into the oh it's mania Season here comes Undertaker type thing. Oh Here's Cena back I wonder what guy is gonna come out this year and tell him he's lost a step, he's old news, he doesn't belong anymore etc. Cena basically made a joke about it on SD the week before.
Overall RAW just seemed like it was on Coke. It's was more hey lets try and get as many things going so people don't realize we still suck. They tried somethings that were ok but it was no where close to enough. This whole shake up just seems like another one of those VKM comes out for his schtick, hypes everything up and within a few weeks everything is still the same. Last night should've been the whole announcement by the McMahons to start a new year. They did it at the worst possible time when their next 4 shows (2 RAWs and 2 SDLIVES) were going to be taped and no one is watching do to holidays.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Also Omega will be signing with them on Feb 1st right after his NJPW contract expires at Jan 31st at Midnight. You forgot The Mascot of the Jags showed up too. Really liked Joey Janela. He got a new fan in me at ALL IN
Fun story I'm blocked on twitter by Jericho for some reason.
Also this was a funny tweet
"Remember last year when there was all this talk that Jericho was sent to New Japan to get Kenny Omega ... and how that went completely in the opposite direction now that Jericho is in #AEW and #NJPW? lol?
Finally I knew Y2J was going with AEW. I just had a hunch plus he had said he wasn't done with Japan yet and AEW is suppose to have a partnership deal with them
DJackson10
Footballguy
Most likely won't happen till Double Or Nothing in May any news on that. Look at it like the ECW One Night Stands WWE did. The first was for nostalgia reasons and was a huge hit. 2nd one came and they built the ECW (Granted it was not the ECW I will remember) brand and announced it at ONS 2. Next Announcement will probably be Kenny Omega Signing Feb 1st.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Watched last night for the first time in forever because I will probably be reupping the Network for the RR/ Mania push.
i wasn’t impressed. The Seth/Dean match was so uninspiring. I mean I don’t need hardcore stuff, but come on, there wasn’t a moment in the match that was even remotely violent. And didn’t the table slam happen during the commercial break? I remember the days of guys fighting in the bathrooms or out in the street, but in a “falls count anywhere” match and you end with a pin in the ring
Elias is still singing. Brock is still doing nothing. Jinderl is still doing his old tired routine. It was just boring.
i wasn’t impressed. The Seth/Dean match was so uninspiring. I mean I don’t need hardcore stuff, but come on, there wasn’t a moment in the match that was even remotely violent. And didn’t the table slam happen during the commercial break? I remember the days of guys fighting in the bathrooms or out in the street, but in a “falls count anywhere” match and you end with a pin in the ring
Elias is still singing. Brock is still doing nothing. Jinderl is still doing his old tired routine. It was just boring.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Knew this was happening
"getting information that WWE has sent the Chris Jericho Podcast production company Westwood one a notice that their talent will not be accepting interviews in the foreseeable future..."
"getting information that WWE has sent the Chris Jericho Podcast production company Westwood one a notice that their talent will not be accepting interviews in the foreseeable future..."
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
If Miss Elizabeth does that, I'm afraid that'll get buried in the story that she's come back from the dead.
Keith R
The Don
The trouble with FCA matches is you lose the live crowd if you do too much outside the main arena or end the match elsewhere, while the alternative feels a lot like a regular no-DQ match.Watched last night for the first time in forever because I will probably be reupping the Network for the RR/ Mania push.
i wasn’t impressed. The Seth/Dean match was so uninspiring. I mean I don’t need hardcore stuff, but come on, there wasn’t a moment in the match that was even remotely violent. And didn’t the table slam happen during the commercial break? I remember the days of guys fighting in the bathrooms or out in the street, but in a “falls count anywhere” match and you end with a pin in the ring
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
IMO, FCA matches are better suited to the indies where the crowd can follow the action outside if necessary.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I used to love them in the attitude era, the crowd was always hot when they'd watch the jumbo tron or screen seeing the Hardcore belt change hands or someone drive a forklift in the back. The good ole' days.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Well that’s kind of where I was going. I mean the two most hardcore moments of that match were Seth has a shovel and not only swings it so slowly a turtle could have gotten out of the way plus he missed by a mile and the whole sliding of the steel structure and the camera angle hid the fact Dean wasn’t even sitting there anymore.
It just is so sanitized. I don’t need Cactus Jack level carnage, but come on—some prop out of the ordinary—some risky move to set it apart from every other match is needed to sell it
DJackson10
Footballguy
Tom Servo said:
DJackson10
Footballguy
God the way NXT does their brand promos and NXT UK as well is so night and day compared to the Main Roster. Watching NXT UK and they are doing a press conference for the Women's UK title match. God it's so good.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Finally watched Smackdown, like many have said it's just amazing how it flows a lot better. The backstage segements into matches, into stuff that actually matters. Loved the Miz set up and him in general.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Well now there's 3.5 hours of matches on Monday Night Raw. The crowd is clearly bored with match after match. The viewers from home are for sure.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Agree, there's no year long build to anything other than this. I just don't care enough. It's amazing how Raw is more Vince's with shoving heavyweights down our throats and then Smackdown is Styles and Bryan right now.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
I had front row seats for the RAW where Austin took McMahon hostage (the payoff was the "Bang 3:16" flag and Vince peeing his pants). It was awful having the majority of the show backstage. On the plus side, it's a scene they like to replay in video packages, so I can see young me on the network.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Speaking of front row, it's nearly impossible to get a front row seat now at least in my city. I used to be able to go to any show, and they'd announce a return date, I'd go to the office after RAW or whatever and get 2nd row. Now it's like 4th row at best.
WWE has been blocking off the first four rows for the VIP people that pay $1,000-1,500 a seat for a RAW or house show so they can meet a couple wrestlers and get pictures with them and stand in the ring before the show.
Few years back I was the row behind all the Bills players in row 1 it was a fun time. Now I'm trying to get my kid up close and I can't - Amazing that people are still paying for all this with a sub-par product.
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