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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (3 Viewers)

hagmania said:
I say that respectfully as possible. It's a subjective art form, but I find it hard to believe one has a problem with Aleister Black.

Elias' job is to make stars out of his foils. Nakamura is an accomplished star that I do agree is being underused.
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This guy knows stuff.

 
Tony Jabroni said:
This guy knows stuff.
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My opinions are no more right or wrong, but I do believe in them.

I write stories for 3-4 hours of D&D gameplay every week, and see so many similarities to a weekly pro wrestling show. It's really wild. I get how there can be garbage weeks and great ones, filler and phenomenal. I am NOT claiming I could write weekly wrestling television. Just saying I see comparable moments.

And, being a storyteller, I feel like I get most everything they do. Only thing I don't get is Vincent Kennedy McMahon. That man is above normal storytelling conventions. He's playing 5d backgammon.

 
hagmania said:
My opinions are no more right or wrong, but I do believe in them.

I write stories for 3-4 hours of D&D gameplay every week, and see so many similarities to a weekly pro wrestling show. It's really wild. I get how there can be garbage weeks and great ones, filler and phenomenal. I am NOT claiming I could write weekly wrestling television. Just saying I see comparable moments.

And, being a storyteller, I feel like I get most everything they do. Only thing I don't get is Vincent Kennedy McMahon. That man is above normal storytelling conventions. He's playing 5d backgammon.
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You lost me at D&D writer, you dork. But, I will see you next week in the Rasslin thread.

Yes, I am kidding. Keep posting.

 
Mr.Pack said:
See #2 above
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Again it's fine for people to question things. It means you aren't a sheep to the product. WWE have been a bunch of hypocrites with their charity campaigns and stuff like Be A Star like I wrote above. Do you think WWE wants it to get out about their own wrestlers and Vince bully people backstage especially Mauro who is Bi-Polar? Yeah that's something that will go over well with some of these fans and maybe few sponsors who follow the backstage news stuff. And Steph's whole campaign thing with Women's wrestling and all is a farce as well. They do a lot of SJW/Virtue signaling but the real reason WWE Brought women's wrestling back to the forefront is because of Hunter's defense of it. Connor's Cure was nothing more then Dana Hedwig to get her OWN HUGE EGO OVER.  WWE actually took out Justin Roberts the former Ring Announcer for Connor to Daniel Bryan who Roberts set up a meet and greet with to begin with. It's nice what WWE did but what they won't tell you is how they took the moment away from Roberts and gave it to one of their wrestlers instead. Roberts tells the story incredible well in his autobiography and I believe Sports Illustrated has an article on their site about it as well. You also think WWE making Cena so kid friendly wants it to come out about Cena cheating on his wife multiple times backstage, or how he's a snitch for Vince getting wrestlers fired for just sneezing at the wrong time? Some may brush it aside but others might say I don't want my kids watching this anymore. Punk's stuff Was only the tip of the iceberg that he threw out there. So anyone who wants to use the "but what about their sponsors with such a such they wouldn't do it" schtick I'm just gonna laugh because I know how fake most of these sponsor deals they have are in the hypocritical sense of them. They put on this great public image but behind the scenes  

And also this is Leukemia Cares tweet from yesterday

"DON'T FORGET - We do not KNOW what type of leukaemia he has. Therefore, NONE of us are in a position to question his treatment, how he should look etc."

So without them knowing either they are MAKING ASSUMPTIONS AS WELL. They can't even tell you 100% what he had or how he should look. Just given reasons why some people may not look like the typical cancer patient. People are taking Leukemia Cares tweets like it's the gospel truth but even they admit IN THIS VERY TWEET THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF LEUKEMIA HE HAS LET ALONE TREATMENT AND HOW HE SHOULD LOOK. I'm also going by my own experiences with cancer, knowing people in the field including MY OWN MOTHER and Drs as well knowing Cancer survivors and those who haven't. My Aunt, my Mother and my Co workers Mom are all Breast Cancer survivors. Each took a different route to treatment. I'm also going by WWE/F's own history of doing things.                                                                                                                                                             

 
hagmania said:
I say that respectfully as possible. It's a subjective art form, but I find it hard to believe one has a problem with Aleister Black.

Elias' job is to make stars out of his foils. Nakamura is an accomplished star that I do agree is being underused.
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I get that it's fake and they're trying to bring in new talent to infuse enthusiasm for the show and all that.  I just think they are introducing all these NXT guys and they come in and beat established talent from day one.  Black gets handled like a rag doll for a whole match and then one kick and it's lights out.  From the grave to victory, yada yada.  Undertaker lite?  

I saw Black lean his head towards Rusev and tell him what to do or ask him what he (Black) should do next while they were in-hold.  meh. Richocet is what, 160 lbs?  I dunno.  Just don't buy it. Not trying to disparage anyone that does.  I just think Alias and Shinsuke are better and these guys should be scrapping with Aiden English, Zack Ryder and Mustafa Ali.  Just one opinion, though.  

 
Dean Ambrose has signed a 1yrs extension with WWE per a few of my guys 

"Dean Ambrose has signed a one year extension to stay with WWE...less dates just so that he can think of things and see what he wants to do. He agreed as he loves the wwe and really just wants better booking... it’s said that Bruce Prichard had some To do with it. But it’s official Dean is staying for one more year at the most. This year doesn’t include an extension nor a provision for injury."

 
Just so we're clear I've heard from 4 different people the report WWE is upset with Becky and Ronda about the language in Twitter isn't real. My co worker who does production for WWE when they come to town and they are Mon basically waved his hands like "get the hell outta here" type comment and my other guy who's been spot on recently called out Wrestlevotes on their twitter account. Who I've talked to said Wrestlevotes there's talk in the back WWE found out who their source is so now feeds that guy bogus info or stuff they don't care leaks. The guy doesn't even know he's been found out. Instead of punishing these Guys unless it was something huge they just start feeding them bogus info. My co worker also can confirm the Dean signing as his buddies in production told him that was true. 

Also I got this today. 

something is going on with the wwe roster and Rousey, she’s getting legit attacked by a bunch of people.... and it’s not scripted
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I'm not sure if she did something with tweets today though as the report from Wrestlevotes was about the stuff yesterday, something happened backstage or what. 

Also Batista is staying till SS so expect Dave to go over possible at Mania. it was something that was owed to him last time and this is his last go in WWE all signs point too. 

 
DJackson10 said:
Just so we're clear I've heard from 4 different people the report WWE is upset with Becky and Ronda about the language in Twitter isn't real. My co worker who does production for WWE when they come to town and they are Mon basically waved his hands like "get the hell outta here" type comment and my other guy who's been spot on recently called out Wrestlevotes on their twitter account. Who I've talked to said Wrestlevotes there's talk in the back WWE found out who their source is so now feeds that guy bogus info or stuff they don't care leaks. The guy doesn't even know he's been found out. Instead of punishing these Guys unless it was something huge they just start feeding them bogus info. My co worker also can confirm the Dean signing as his buddies in production told him that was true. 
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I'm dead.  :lmao:

 
For all you DIY fans this isn't good from what I'm being told. Luckily Vince may not be around long enough and Hunter can get them where they should be

"big story coming out that there are fears within the wwe roster and some agents that Vince did not liked DIY and saw it as a blessing that Ciampa was hurt by Sheamus two weeks ago. It’s said that when they return, they are going to Superstars."

I asked well they may not be a team with the NXT Storyline (WOn't give spoilers but something happens during the Dusty Rhoades Tag Classic)

"Maybe but that could also mean long segments for like Triple H, Becky and mostly storylines"

Also Vince is only mad about the language in the twitter feud. Words like **** were not cleared by WWE which is why there's a few reports Ronda has some heat on her now. 

"He is but it was with the foul language that was used in the exchange. The “fight” was agreed upon to as when it happened it was the time of the day wwe normally puts out breaking news tweets so it was all planned. Not the words though"

 
Tom Servo said:
I'm dead.  :lmao:
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BTW WrestleVotes source has been "Got". WWE officials know who their source is now and are giving him the Meltzer treatment now. Giving the guy info they don't care is leaked as well as BS on bigger stuff. I expect after Mania season give them a month or two and people will stop using them on the dirt sheets for article news on major stuff. 

 
Tom Servo said:
NEVERMIND! Flair says he misspoke when he said Race had cancer. Oof.
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That's great news 

"Race’s family also said he remains very active with the World League Wrestling promotion and school that he runs in Missouri. As we’ve noted, Race is currently scheduled to appear at his WLW Night of Champions IV event on March 9 in St. Louis, with WWE NXT Champion Tommaso Ciampa, Ryback and Nick Aldis. He’s also made other recent indie appearances, and has others scheduled."

Being near the clown that's bolded isn't great. This dude is the biggest ######## ever. He makes #### up about people and continues to burn bridges. Know why he keeps loosing podcast hosts? He's burning bridges in the industry so they don't want to associate with him. He also got pissy after the podcaster I listened to had a miscommunication with Ryback's people of doing an interview. Apparently Ryback's people didn't realize the amount of $$$ his people told the guy it'd take the get Ryback on the show. 4K they told him and this is a small podcaster who doesn't have that kind of money for that. One of This podcasters co host does an amazing Ryback impersonation and did a sketch. I would say the Show is a wrestling podcast with a Howard Stern type feel so if you are a PC person or get offended easily well this podcast isn't for you. BTW this podcaster is also friends with Road Dogg who told him many guys in the back found it funny and didn't seem insulting. Indie guys who watch the show or know him even said it was a funny skit. Ryback took it personal and called him out on his podcast. The podcaster went to Wrestlecon awhile back in Orlando for Mania and there was a Podcast show hosted by Bryan Zayn and What Culture guys were involved in as well with a former CoHost who suggested we should tape you apologizing to Ryback even though he really didn't need too. He goes up to Ryback who's next to the Former Wade Barrett. Ryback gives him this high and mighty morale response about he needs to do better and be a role model. In the video you can See Stu Bennett (AKA Wade) rolling his eyes at Ryback and when a fan comes by for a pic he can't wait to do it just to get away from Ryback. Stu apparently hated Ryback going off on a morale high horse then doesn't even practice what he preaches. So what happens after this? Ryback goes on his podcast the next day and insults the podcaster saying he was drunk, had like a beer helmet with the tubes on etc and then says he hopes they dies in a pit of spikes. So much for the high and mighty morale road from him.

Also Bryan Alvarez commented on Nia botching and breaking Becky's face. Ryback basically defended Jaxx (Kind of ironic since everyone I talked to confirmed Punk's statement what an unsafe worker he is) and basically insulted Alvarez saying he has no wrestling experience (wrong Alvarez did train as a wrestler for a brief stint) and then basically infers that he should've been aborted. Yeah so much for him being high a mighty. The dude is a ####### #######. This guy had the nerve to ask for Cena money and main event his last contract negotiations. Both Hunter and Vince told him to shove it took it off TV and let his contract run out. I'm far and away not a John Cena fan but Ryback doesn't even come closet what Cena has done for WWE on many levels. Stu btw was also a friend of Ryback's and left him too because Stu does have aspirations of maybe coming back to WWE at some point when it makes sense. There's fans out there who think this guy is so cool but really he's a complete jerk. His fans wonder why he can't get any big bookings. It's because of how difficult he is to work with and his demands. He thinks AEW will sign him but even those guys want nothing to do with him. 

 
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As noted, WWE Ambassador Dana Warrior started working with the WWE creative team this past week. Dana was at last week's RAW and SmackDown to shadow the WWE writers and learn about the creative process.

Dana reportedly approached WWE Chairman Vince McMahon and was looking for a full-time job, according to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio. Vince asked her what she would like to do and she reportedly said she'd like to work creative, as she believes she can offer a female point-of-view. There are other female members of the writing team but Vince thought that was a good idea, and Dana was hired. However, she is not actually on the writing team. She is being taught the writing process and her current role was described as something like an intern, but not quite.

Dana is expected to be at RAW and SmackDown this week as she continues to learn the process of how everything is done with the idea of eventually becoming a member of the WWE creative team.
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Oh goody Dana is gonna make the Females all SJW now if they give her a role 

 
This is gonna be awesome The Untold Story of ECW with Paul Heyman is up. This is about the relaunch and Heyman starts the documentary off it was doomed from the start and he should've been upfront and said he wanted no part of it. It's only 23 mins unfortunately but it's kind of cool this drops the same day Raw is in the City ECW was born

 
Aliestar Black says goodbye to NXT

aleister_black

It’s been a ride NXT, a hell of a ride.
In less than three years I went from psychological and physical problems, anxiety and panic attacks to thriving in an high stress environment. The majority of you only see the actual in-ring work and none of what goes around or behind it. I can tell you with full conviction that if you knew how this world truly works the majority of you wouldn’t have such a high strong opinion nor give the criticism that some of you give. You think you know, but you really don’t. I often sit back and realize how quickly life moves and how fast things come and go and just like that the era of NXT has come to an end. In the entire period I left people behind, people left me behind, I got rid of toxic people and I gained a new outlook on life. After tons of therapy and life coaching by the wonderful @carla_bruins I am finally moving away from old habits because the truth is that I myself have been a very toxic individual for years that couldn’t move passed his childhood and events that occurred in teenage years. If all you know is lies and deceit you become lies and deceit to understand your anger and sadness. I used to call myself the king of self sabotage and if you tell yourself something long enough you’ll believe it and don’t move away from it. I still deal with a lot guilt for things I have done to others as well as strangely feeling guiltIy for letting others do that to me as well, it’s like you let yourself get compromised but do nothing about it to change it, until a few months back when I learned to slowly forgive myself thanks to aforementioned person. A big part of that change is also due to my wife who’s changed my outlook on life from trying to die as young as I could to holding on to things that are worth holding on to. But enough about that, we’re here for the next chapter of my career. However I cannot stress how important it is that you, the fans, were there. I could’ve tried my hardest but without your support (as cliche as that sounds) this would’ve never gotten as far as it did, and obviously beyond that... Lot of words from a guy who’s known for being quiet, but hey, that means it’s important to me. Osu.
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DJackson10 said:
This is gonna be awesome The Untold Story of ECW with Paul Heyman is up. This is about the relaunch and Heyman starts the documentary off it was doomed from the start and he should've been upfront and said he wanted no part of it. It's only 23 mins unfortunately but it's kind of cool this drops the same day Raw is in the City ECW was born
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Just watched Today. It was pretty entertaining and didn't realize Shane McMahon was the first to want ECW. He wanted to put it Online do to the restrictions TV has and it would keep it edge and fans could watch it when they wanted too. Once TV networks were lining up Vince saw a profit and it was out of Shane's Hands. After December to Dismember Tommy Dreamer asked for his release. CM Punk is mentioned in how when Dusty Rhoads took over they started bringing in younger guys. Shane said what they did with ECW was what HHH now has with NXT and this was a prequel to NXT and what they wanted to do. The problems with WWE ECW was that Vince and WWE tried change it with putting in rules and making it too much WWE instead of letting it be itself. It became a work place Nightmare. It seems like everyone admitted it was a mistake to revitalize it. Should've been the One Night Stand PPV and then make a tribute PPV like they did for it and never revitalized it. 

 
So is anyone upset that Reigns didn’t turn on Seth to take his spot and set up yet another Lesnar vs Regins main event at WrestleMania?

 
Yeah My wife is out of Suspension Jail but Charlotte and Becky are now facing each other for the RAW women's Title at SlowLane? 

 
REPORT..... Vince McMahon wanted the womens belt on a traditional heel.... so charlotte will become champ at fast lane going to mania

 
Also I had to chase Gritty out of the women's Locker room today. He's just so excited to meet the wrestlers. I told Gritty hands off the wifey. He seems to like her since her hair matches his fur. He wanted to Stunner Vince as well but we told him we didn't think Vince was game so we let him give Corey a stunner which he was really happy with since Corey is a Penguins fan. All and all Gritty is behaving fairly well tonight. There won't be any streaking tonight. 

Gritty also loves his new T shirt

Watcha gonna do when Grittymania Runs wild on You?

Grittymania

 
Alicia Fox went AWOL after showing up Drunk at a house show which story goes Arn Anderson was the agent in her match and let her wrestle drunk which is why he was fired but this isn't Alicia's first time showing up intoxicated. SHe's apparently being offered rehab first. 

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Torrie Wilson announced for Hall of Fame. Long overdue.

Favorite Torrie Wilson moment in WCW/WWE?
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I really couldn't tell you one. I don't remember her stuff from WCW and I wasn't around for most of her WWE time because after the Invasion angle many of my friends and I for whatever reason stopped watching and I got back into it shortly for ECW ONS (The First one) then Vince vs Donald at Mania I got back full time. Her Invasion angle stuff was good but there's a few women who should be going in before she did like Victoria and Gail Kim. A little too soon for her. 

 
Enzo being Enzo.....

@real1

#RIPKingKongBuddy the epitome of prowrestlin i recall goin 2 shows @ MSG w/ my grandparents, my Grandma Raphaela loved em & hyped em up the whole ride in, plenty of wrestlers risked it all that night, but I never forgot the guy w/ the green tongue who ate the turnbuckle
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:lmao:  

 
Reigns has CML leukemia.

Reigns said that for the first couple of months after relinquishing the title, he spent most of his time on the couch and couldn't move. He credited his wife for taking care of everything during that period.

Reigns also revealed that he has CML leukemia which was caught in its early phases, noting that "It's pretty much where you want to catch this disease."
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According to Cancer.org, CML is a type of cancer that starts in certain blood-forming cells of the bone marrow. It is a genetic disease, but is not hereditary, and there is no evidence that it can be passed on to his children. CML occurs mostly in adults, but it can occur in children as well. 1 in 599 people will be diagnosed with CML in their lifetime.
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Below is the current announced card for Fastlane:

WWE Title Match
Kevin Owens vs. Daniel Bryan (c)

SmackDown Tag Team Titles Match
Shane McMahon and The Miz vs. The Usos (c)

Triple Threat for the RAW Tag Team Titles
Ricochet and Aleister Black vs. Chad Gable and Bobby Roode vs. The Revival

WWE Women's Tag Team Titles Match
Nia Jax and Tamina Snuka vs. Sasha Banks and Bayley (c)

SmackDown Women's Title Match
Mandy Rose vs. Asuka (c)

Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair
If Lynch wins, she's added to the WrestleMania 35 match with Flair and RAW Women's Champion Ronda Rousey to make it a Triple Threat. Lynch is "done" if she loses.

The Shield (Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose) vs. Drew McIntyre, Baron Corbin, Bobby Lashley

 
I've heard from 3 different people already that WWE is planning on bringing back Celebrity guest host for Raw and everything. This was one of the worst ideas WWE had originally and they want to bring it back? 

 
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