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***Official Rap/Hip Hop Discussion Thread*** (1 Viewer)

matuski said:
I don't think you can blame Drake.. blame whoever decided to make radio stations play the exact same crap (drake, et al) for years on end.
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Exactly.  Rap isnt ruined at all.  You just dont hear the good stuff on the radio as they just play what they want or what the labels want or what will sell regardless of quality. 

 
I wanted to revisit this thread.  For those that havent really listened to rap in years.  Give this album a go.  Its an outstanding album from a dude that has been rapping for a long time, battled addiction and alcoholism and is truly making way better music sober.  Ever since this song came out his career has really taken off.  IMO hes the best doing it right now. 

Royce Da 5'9"  - Book of Ryan.

https://hiphopdx.com/reviews/id.3149/title.review-royce-da-59s-book-of-ryan-is-a-pensive-graphic-novel

https://medium.com/hendon/royce-da-59-book-of-ryan-review-692bb8f6dadf

 
I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies and hypotheses
Can't define how I be dropping these mockeries
Lyrically perform armed robbery

GB the Wu

 
So been looking at a bunch of best of year lists while concentrating thoughts about the best songs this year and discovered this gem. I'm apparently late to the game, so smile if this hits you painfully. I'm not as hip as I once was, nor do I have the time to keep up and dote faithfully on developments within genres as I go backwards through the decades and find stuff I had been missing out on. But this deserves a shout. I can't believe this garnered even one negative review on Metacritic. Perhaps I'm missing something. Most everyone seems to love it. 

Little Simz - Sometimes I Might Be Introvert 

Track One - Introvert 

One of the best albums I've heard in quite some time due to production and emcee skills. Check it out, folks. 

 
rockaction said:
So been looking at a bunch of best of year lists while concentrating thoughts about the best songs this year and discovered this gem. I'm apparently late to the game, so smile if this hits you painfully. I'm not as hip as I once was, nor do I have the time to keep up and dote faithfully on developments within genres as I go backwards through the decades and find stuff I had been missing out on. But this deserves a shout. I can't believe this garnered even one negative review on Metacritic. Perhaps I'm missing something. Most everyone seems to love it. 

Little Simz - Sometimes I Might Be Introvert 

Track One - Introvert 

One of the best albums I've heard in quite some time due to production and emcee skills. Check it out, folks. 
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Dope!  Now i need to check this album.  Never heard of her.  Is she british?

 
PinkydaPimp said:
Dope!  Now i need to check this album.  Never heard of her.  Is she british?
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Yeah, she's British. Kendrick Lamar called her one of the best in the game back in 2017 or so. The next few songs on the album are as rich and are full of the same production as the opening track, which is done by a dude named Inflo, a guy who has worked with other artists and sort of makes the record to begin to appear to step into the realm of...masterpiece. I don't know, I immediately thought "British Lauryn Hill with a great producer" and she has indeed toured with Hill (in 2019).

Anyway, she popped up on Barack Obama's listening list, so we're sleeping on people much more so than the former President. LOL. I discovered her looking at a "Best of..." list and gave it a try. Happy with that endeavor. 

I Love You, I Hate You

 
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Nothing is more frustrating than smoking Johnson and Johnson cooked together or soap passed off as crack. That's part of what they address when they talk about the product of the nascent or incompetent dealers (Pusha T as a child with J&J and Kendrick's father selling soap). That's for guys who take advantage of out-of-town folk or dupes but aren't real players in the hood. 

Kendrick is dissing his own father, unlike what the Twitter TikTok would have you believe. 

 
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Well yall, how we feeling about MR MORALE??

I've only listened to the first 4 or 5 so far. This seems like more of a digest/slow burn album so I'm taking my time with it.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Well yall, how we feeling about MR MORALE??

I've only listened to the first 4 or 5 so far. This seems like more of a digest/slow burn album so I'm taking my time with it.
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Yea im going to wait until next week when im traveling and will have some time to listen to it a few times. 

 
ShamrockPride said:
Well yall, how we feeling about MR MORALE??

I've only listened to the first 4 or 5 so far. This seems like more of a digest/slow burn album so I'm taking my time with it.
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I listened to the first album last night. I was not feeling it. I think the great artists are going away from beats that grab you and moving towards the more introspective verses that lay over the beats instead of having club bangers where the beats distract from the verses. Vince Staples did this with Kenny Beats this past year. 

I can't stand it, frankly. 

I WANT BACKSEAT FREESTYLE! 

I only kind of kid. I mean, I get what these guys are doing, I'm just not feeling it like I feel music. It's like a book on tape that rhymes. Maybe the second part of the double album will slam, but I can't get over the song where he and the woman are yelling at each other about their relationship. 

I HATE WHEN MOM AND DAD FIGHT, I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY ART. 

I only kind of kid again. 

 
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rockaction said:
I listened to the first album last night. I was not feeling it. I think the great artists are going away from beats that grab you and moving towards the more introspective verses that lay over the beats instead of having club bangers where the beats distract from the verses. Vince Staples did this with Kenny Beats this past year. 

I can't stand it, frankly. 

I WANT BACKSEAT FREESTYLE! 

I only kind of kid. I mean, I get what these guys are doing, I'm just not feeling it like I feel music. It's like a book on tape that rhymes. Maybe the second part of the double album will slam, but I can't get over the song where he and the woman are yelling at each other about their relationship. 

I HATE WHEN MOM AND DAD FIGHT, I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY ART. 

I only kind of kid again. 
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i feel ya.  Generally this is my sentiment too though i dont mind when the great ones try something new.  But oftentimes, the albums i hate like that at first i end up liking.  We will see. 

 
PinkydaPimp said:
i feel ya.  Generally this is my sentiment too though i dont mind when the great ones try something new.  But oftentimes, the albums i hate like that at first i end up liking.  We will see. 
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I'm re-reading the part where I say "I can't stand it," and I don't mean that about this album. I mean the general trend toward introspective lyrics being backed up by really non-existent or totally innocuous beats. 

Just figured I'd clarify what that part referred to. 

I'm gonna take my time before I judge this album. Right now, or as of last night, I wasn't feeling it. 

 
Don't forget about the latest Black Star album.  The tracks I've heard are lovely.  Looking forward when they drop it on more platforms.  20+ years was too long to wait. 

 
Major said:
Don't forget about the latest Black Star album.  The tracks I've heard are lovely.  Looking forward when they drop it on more platforms.  20+ years was too long to wait. 
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I just saw this the other day. Don't you have to sign up with a certain platform to get the album. I hope they do eventually release it on other platforms or put it out on physical media. 

 
Wow. Just heard the new Black Star track that was released away from the Luminary platform. Really good stuff. Excited for when the album gets from behind the paywall or whatever it is. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Anyone check out the new JID album? Pretty damn good if you ask me.
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I did. Didn't excite me, again. Nothing is exciting me these days. Little Simz, like we talked about upthread, released an absolute gem last year and I'm not sure everybody quite noticed. It's been going on in my head for about five days.

Point and Kill
 
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ShamrockPride said:
Long Ball Larry said:
I guess these classic rap stations are spreading: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/classic-hip-hop-format-rescuing-radio-stations-20141228
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Not hard to understand why with the basura that's being made today.
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Not sure that’s necessarily the reason (not saying rap music is great right now either). Rap has been a mainstream genre for about 30 years. Classic rock stations popped up in the early 80s about 25-30 years after rock music went mainstream. It just seems like the timeframe needed to establish an audience and a catalogue.
 
rockaction said:
Ilov80s said:
Anyone check out the new JID album? Pretty damn good if you ask me.
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I did. Didn't excite me, again. Nothing is exciting me these days. Little Simz, like we talked about upthread, released an absolute gem last year and I'm not sure everybody quite noticed. It's been going on in my head for about five days.

Point and Kill
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Do you think rap changed or you changed? Or both?
 
Ilov80s said:
Do you think rap changed or you changed? Or both?
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Rap has changed a lot. It went from boom bap to trap beats to no beats. It's ever-evolving, and some of the evolutions aren't so great for the listener. I just can't get with Kendrick or VInce's new albums, unlike in the past. I think their beats and focus changed. I don't even think they'd deny that. Kenny Beats, or whoever the heck he is, needs to get off making records. More like Kenny No Beats, amirite?
 
And it's no wonder that LIttle Simz is British. I don't think American hip hop is in such a great place right now, aside from that squad out of Buffalo that sticks to the boom bap stuff. That squad, the underground scenes and the indie stuff, and foreign stuff is most compelling because the "stars" aren't making "hits" leaving kingdoms unkinged and stars not reached for. There will be a fill in the void that they leave.
 
By the way, Injury Reserve might have put out the indie album of 2021, By The Time I Get To Phoenix. It's too bad one of the creators/lyricists for the band died. They're a troupe out of that aforementioned Phoenix, AZ, and their glitchy rap makes for a sometimes difficult but rewarding listen.

Superman That

You - ain't no saving me ain't no saving me or you
 
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