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Official Robert Griffin III - RGIII RG3 (1 Viewer)

Great move by Gruden to distance himself from the sinking ship of RG3.

"Robert had some fundamental flaws," Gruden said. "His footwork was below average. He took three-step drops when he should have taken five. He took a one-step drop when he should have taken three, on a couple occasions, and that can't happen. He stepped up when he didn't have to step up and stepped into pressure. He read the wrong side of the field a couple times. So from his basic performance just critiquing Robert it was not even close to being good enough to what we expect from the quarterback position.
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ILUVBEER99 said:
he showed so much promise as a rookie. Of course injuries zapped a lot of his running ability but he hasn't improved as a passer at all, he's actually regressed.
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Any QB that comes out of college and then runs in the NFL may be able to win early until the defenses catches up to them. Once that happens it's over. Tebowner is the poster child for this style of useless NFL QB.

 
lod01 said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
he showed so much promise as a rookie. Of course injuries zapped a lot of his running ability but he hasn't improved as a passer at all, he's actually regressed.
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Any QB that comes out of college and then runs in the NFL may be able to win early until the defenses catches up to them. Once that happens it's over. Tebowner is the poster child for this style of useless NFL QB.
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They can't do it w/ Kirk Cousins nor Colt McCoy. So either the talent evaluator is terrible or there is a bigger problem. My thought is the latter.

 
Faust said:
Colt McCoy 'pushing' Robert Griffin III, Gruden says

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000431969/article/colt-mccoy-pushing-robert-griffin-iii-gruden-says
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There is a reason why McCoy was the #3 QB at this point in his career. He isn't good, one good game this season be danged.

flapgreen said:
Faust said:
Jay Gruden apologizes for calling out RG3 after QB called out team
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Too late, loser. It's already done
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He should be embarrassed as a coach. As a QB and leader, RG3s job is to motivate a bit. He did not call anyone out individually, Gruden did. Only someone who hates RG3 would do what Gruden did.

Ladsud said:
Damn Gruden, what a dressing down he gave Griffin.
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Cant wait for the GM to do the same thing to Gruden when he fires him.

 
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What a mess. Not RG3. Though that, too. Not Gruden, which that as well, embarassingly so. But the Skins

This WHOLE debacle is Snyder. DC should just shame this pathetic excuse of a person and an owner every single day.

 
It's actually refreshing to hear players and coaches speak honestly and candidly for a change instead of speaking in non-stop cliches.

There just saying what is plainly obvious to everyone watching.

 
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 31m31 minutes ago

The video of my RGIII and #Redskins-centric hit is now up. I’ll have more coming in the third hour, too http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-gameday/0ap3000000432392/Rapoport-Gruden-has-green-light-to-bench-RGIII …

Gruden is just letting everybody, including Robert and his coddling posse, know that RG will be held accountable just like everybody else, unlike how it has been in the past. Gruden appears to have the full support of the organization.

I like RG3 and have rooted for him, but after watching his woeful performance in preseason I passed on drafting him. He has been even worse in the regular season. I don't see that turning around for him, but I give Gruden credit: He tried to give Griffin a wakeup call this week. I think RG3 is one bad half away from losing his job for the remainder of this season.

 
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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii

Sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen that Robert Griffin III will be on a short leash in Sunday's Week 12 game at San Francisco.


The Redskins dysfunction continues. Taking over as "Raiders East," they're now leaking that they could yank RG3 in favor of Colt McCoy -- either during Sunday's game or ahead of Week 3. Head coach Jay Gruden has sharply criticized Griffin's fundamentals this week and even said the 2012 No. 2 overall pick has been "coddled." The Redskins, 0-2 since RG3 returned from a dislocated ankle, are 9.5-point underdogs Sunday. Nov 23 - 11:50 AM
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With smoke billowing from the RG3 dumpster fire, it is clear that he either plays lights out or he is out. All this rhetoric and then he has to go play on the road at SF as a double-digit dog. McCoy is a pretty safe pickup in 2QB leagues.

 
He's done. You can tell even he knows he's done. Hell of a 2 year run at Baylor and then the first year with the Skins.

 
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Milkman said:
He's done. You can tell even he knows he's done. Hell of a 2 year run at Baylor and then the first year with the Skins.
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This unfortunately looks to be accurate. That extra bit of athleticism that used to get him out of some trouble seems to be gone after all the injuries, and now he's just a regular QB who is not that great of a pocket passer. He's lost all confidence and it seems like even he thinks he's going to get hurt everytime he takes a decent hit at this point. Does a 2 second body check everytime he's on the ground just to make sure...gets up slowly and usually has a slight limp assuming something is going to hurt worse than it actually does. You can almost see him thinking to himself "oh that wasnt good, oh wait, not too bad...huh, guess Im fine. OK, whats the next play call?". Its become sad to watch.

 
He looks like he has ZERO confidence right now. As if he's expecting to make a bad play. Watching some of that game yesterday, he was so flustered and unsure of himself, he doesn't even look like he belongs on an NFL field. Really is wild to see such a fall from grace in such a short period of time.

 
offdee said:
Milkman said:
He's done. You can tell even he knows he's done. Hell of a 2 year run at Baylor and then the first year with the Skins.
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This unfortunately looks to be accurate. That extra bit of athleticism that used to get him out of some trouble seems to be gone after all the injuries, and now he's just a regular QB who is not that great of a pocket passer. He's lost all confidence and it seems like even he thinks he's going to get hurt everytime he takes a decent hit at this point. Does a 2 second body check everytime he's on the ground just to make sure...gets up slowly and usually has a slight limp assuming something is going to hurt worse than it actually does. You can almost see him thinking to himself "oh that wasnt good, oh wait, not too bad...huh, guess Im fine. OK, whats the next play call?". Its become sad to watch.
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This is one of the reasons you don't waste time with guys that can't be pocket passers. All the injuries are the first problem and then once the legs go, you are done.

 
Da Gildz said:
He looks like he has ZERO confidence right now. As if he's expecting to make a bad play. Watching some of that game yesterday, he was so flustered and unsure of himself, he doesn't even look like he belongs on an NFL field. Really is wild to see such a fall from grace in such a short period of time.
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RGIII does not lack confidence. It isn't like if Gruden gave him some Hot Coco and a hug he would perk right up. He simply isn't good at the basics of being a NFL QB. The scrambling and running are the extra things that you fall back on when you are in trouble or things break down if the pas isn't there. But he just cant drop back, stop and throw.

The extra dimension he brings is not what the position requires to be good to great, but throwing the football is required and he simply cannot make the reads and make the throw.

All his running has done is prevent him from learning to make the traditional read on the play.

If the read option was completely removed from the playbook, and he was forced to learn the position in a more traditional way, his happy feet might settle down and his passing would improve.

Both coaching staffs have ruined the kid because they are playing to the strength that they don't need to teach, his running. If they forced him to play QB and teach the position from a more traditional standpoint he would be worth saving.

 
I Am the Stig said:
Both coaching staffs have ruined the kid because they are playing to the strength that they don't need to teach, his running. If they forced him to play QB and teach the position from a more traditional standpoint he would be worth saving.
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"Hey Shanahan, we drafted this rookie who is really good at the read option but we have no idea what else he is capable of. You can either run that read option and go 10-6 and win the NFC East, or you can try to teach him to be a traditional QB and go 2-14. Oh, and we're not getting a lot of help in the next 2 drafts because we traded away our 1st round picks to get him. Let us know what you decide."

 
Don't blame Shanny and Gruden for RG3's failure. He's had plenty of chances. He ran the read option and got hurt with Shanny. Allen brought in Gruden to make RG3 a pocket passer. You can blame Allen for hiring Gruden, but Gruden is trying to implement exactly what he was brought in to do. RG3 simply can't do it. I mean, what does it say when Cousins and McCoy can put up passing yards in this system, but RG3 can't even get to half of their numbers? What does it say when Shanny and Gruden prefer him not to play. It would be so much easier on them to just get behind RG3. He has to be really, really bad for coaches to be hired with the sole directive of making RG3 great, and to then admit it can't be done.

Gruden will keep rolling out RG3 as directed. RG3 will then continue to take a beating. Eventually RG3 will have one decent game and the owner will convince himself again that RG3's marketing potential is more important than winning, or more likely, RG3 will end up smashed like a pumpkin and Cousins will roll in for one last try at the job.

Barring a miracle from Cousins, it's unlikely any QB on this team is going to be here in 3 years.

 
I Am the Stig said:
Da Gildz said:
He looks like he has ZERO confidence right now. As if he's expecting to make a bad play. Watching some of that game yesterday, he was so flustered and unsure of himself, he doesn't even look like he belongs on an NFL field. Really is wild to see such a fall from grace in such a short period of time.
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RGIII does not lack confidence. It isn't like if Gruden gave him some Hot Coco and a hug he would perk right up. He simply isn't good at the basics of being a NFL QB. The scrambling and running are the extra things that you fall back on when you are in trouble or things break down if the pas isn't there. But he just cant drop back, stop and throw.

The extra dimension he brings is not what the position requires to be good to great, but throwing the football is required and he simply cannot make the reads and make the throw.

All his running has done is prevent him from learning to make the traditional read on the play.

If the read option was completely removed from the playbook, and he was forced to learn the position in a more traditional way, his happy feet might settle down and his passing would improve.

Both coaching staffs have ruined the kid because they are playing to the strength that they don't need to teach, his running. If they forced him to play QB and teach the position from a more traditional standpoint he would be worth saving.
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Let's not forget about college either. They are never taught how to play QB at the next level. It's all about winning and at the college level, running is far more successful than in the NFL. Mariota and Hundley are prime examples of this. They will fail at the next level. Hundley shouldn't even be allowed on an NFL field and Mariota will simply end up just like Bob.

 
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Brunell4MVP said:
Don't blame Shanny and Gruden for RG3's failure. He's had plenty of chances. He ran the read option and got hurt with Shanny. Allen brought in Gruden to make RG3 a pocket passer. You can blame Allen for hiring Gruden, but Gruden is trying to implement exactly what he was brought in to do. RG3 simply can't do it. I mean, what does it say when Cousins and McCoy can put up passing yards in this system, but RG3 can't even get to half of their numbers? What does it say when Shanny and Gruden prefer him not to play. It would be so much easier on them to just get behind RG3. He has to be really, really bad for coaches to be hired with the sole directive of making RG3 great, and to then admit it can't be done.

Gruden will keep rolling out RG3 as directed. RG3 will then continue to take a beating. Eventually RG3 will have one decent game and the owner will convince himself again that RG3's marketing potential is more important than winning, or more likely, RG3 will end up smashed like a pumpkin and Cousins will roll in for one last try at the job.

Barring a miracle from Cousins, it's unlikely any QB on this team is going to be here in 3 years.
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Gruden is trying to implement exactly what he was brought in to do. RG3 simply can't do it.
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That sums it up. It would be unfair to can Gruden for this. It also doesn't help Griffin (to the extent that he can be helped) to bring in yet another offensive system.

The Redskins should draft a Plan B starter next year. If Griffin reemerges, so be it, let the contract play out and take whatever salary lumps there are to take.

 
Brunell4MVP said:
Don't blame Shanny and Gruden for RG3's failure. He's had plenty of chances. He ran the read option and got hurt with Shanny. Allen brought in Gruden to make RG3 a pocket passer. You can blame Allen for hiring Gruden, but Gruden is trying to implement exactly what he was brought in to do. RG3 simply can't do it. I mean, what does it say when Cousins and McCoy can put up passing yards in this system, but RG3 can't even get to half of their numbers? What does it say when Shanny and Gruden prefer him not to play. It would be so much easier on them to just get behind RG3. He has to be really, really bad for coaches to be hired with the sole directive of making RG3 great, and to then admit it can't be done.

Gruden will keep rolling out RG3 as directed. RG3 will then continue to take a beating. Eventually RG3 will have one decent game and the owner will convince himself again that RG3's marketing potential is more important than winning, or more likely, RG3 will end up smashed like a pumpkin and Cousins will roll in for one last try at the job.

Barring a miracle from Cousins, it's unlikely any QB on this team is going to be here in 3 years.
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I agree with most of what you say, but Gruden never removed the read option from RGIII's playbook.

 
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