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Official Robert Griffin III - RGIII RG3 (1 Viewer)

Ah, preseason...where fairy tales come true...

...until the nasty regular season rears it's ugly head, where the games start to count, and Teams take them seriously...

...it's highly likely there's a reality check coming. Saturday night he'll be on the road vs a dress rehearsal for the Bucs D, a unit on the rise. A guy like Lavonte David, schemed correctly, could really cause him some trouble. I expect to see some regression.

The surrounding cast of skill position players is a big plus, for sure. I have nothing bad to say about Crowell/Duke and Gordon/Pryor. I think Barnidge is overrated, and I'm on record prognosticating that, when the dust settles on his career, Coleman will be remembered more as a return man than as a WR, but on the field with Gordon/Pryor and Duke, he'll be in a position to take advantage of personnel and coverages. The absence of a starter-caliber right offensive tackle is going to be a big problem once live bullets start flying...

...and the defense flat-out stinks. They aren't going to do Griffin any favors, and that's going to give opposing D's the advantage of defending a 1-dimensional offense for most of the game, when the run is abandoned and the play-action is useless. The Browns aren't getting RG2012. RG2016 is nowhere near as dynamic.That player is physically finished, and while early reports are optimistic, there's little proof yet that Griffin has improved at diagnosing schemes/identifying coverages/blitz packages, making pre-snap adjustments at the LOS to counter these things, and being able to work through a progression when the running lanes are closed and he's forced to throw, which he will be. It's great that he's learned to throw the ball out of bounds, and how to slide. Coincidentally, I'm currently coaching my 12-year-old and his Pop Warner teammates to do the same thing. It's the football intelligence/IQ stuff where he struggles the most, and there's no reason to believe that can be corrected. If you read between the lines of all the press coming out of Browns camp, you have to see that Jackson is doing the same thing that Kyle Shanahan was forced to do - dumb things down so that Griffin doesn't have to think. When things go live, and without the athleticism to act as a counterpunch, that's only going to get him so far. As the weeks go by, and the game tape builds, it's likely to get worse.

He throws an absolutely beautiful deep ball, and when Gordon gets back, he's got 2 WR who can go up and get it, but until he shows otherwise, that's pretty much it.

Browns fans, I feel for you. It's been so long. I think this team has some promise, but would be better served with a conventional QB at the helm, like McCown. If there's an implosion, let's hope it comes early enough that there's still time to salvage the season. Strange as it seems, I think the ANorth is pretty wide open this year, and 8-8 could win the Division...

...as for Griffin, I'll believe it when I see it, and see it consistently. I'd advise taking him as a flyer only, nowhere before the 17th Round in 20-Round Drafts.

 
Yeah its all cuz of you guy
didn't mean to imply that, just meant to point out that ADP is skyrocketing on RG3 since I wrote the original post.

But feel free to post useless barbs to muddle up the forum while adding zero value to actual ff discussion.  :rolleyes:  

 
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Next time, open with this.  That would have saved me from reading the rest of your opinions.
Well, howdy-doo to you too!

There's not a thing I wrote that isn't supported by fact-based evidence, except my opinions on Coleman and Barnidge (although based on Barnidge's career, it's logically reasonable to doubt he'll repeat 2015). I welcome your fact-supported rebuttal to my comments about Griffin, if you can muster one up...but if the above is the best you can offer, well, you're wasting more space in here than I am.

 
There's not a thing I wrote that isn't supported by fact-based evidence
Look, I'm not trying to give you #### for putting your opinions out there.  It's what makes this board great.  But your takes are not fact-based. 

OPINION: it's highly likely there's a reality check coming.
OPINION: the Bucs D, a unit on the rise.
OPINION: RG2016 is nowhere near as dynamic.
OPINION: It's the football intelligence/IQ stuff where he struggles the most, and there's no reason to believe that can be corrected.
OPINION: I think this team has some promise, but would be better served with a conventional QB at the helm, like McCown.

Don't take that to mean I disagree with your opinion of RG3, he's nothing more than a late-round flyer right now.  But that lottery ticket has much better odds than you are willing to admit.

 
Never thought I'd say this, but he looked really, really good. 

Impressively so. Like, "viable QB2 in deeper league" good. 

Time will tell what the CLE offense really looks like, and what RGIII does under actual pressure (not preseason scrub ball with limited schemes), but he absolutely looked like he's on the right track. 

2-QB league folks might be wise to make him a 3rd QB BYE week stash. Certainly more upside than a few of the back-end of the draft scrubby QBs. 

 
Anyone have the nuts to start him week 1? Philly's defense isn't very intimidating but game script may not demand much scoring from Cleveland.

 
Anyone have the nuts to start him week 1? Philly's defense isn't very intimidating but game script may not demand much scoring from Cleveland.
I'm in a really weird QB scoring league which basically way overvalues running QBs (he's projected 9.6 and Cam is 9.8) so might go with him over Taylor or Alex Smith. I thought he looked really good in preseason and is comeback player of year candidate if he plays 14+ games. 

 
Darrell Green revealed on Tuesday with the Sports Junkies that he's always preferred Kirk Cousins' quarterbacking skills over Robert Griffin III's. Later on in that same discussion, Green expressed disappointment over how Griffin's career has unfolded since his fantastic rookie season.

"I don't appreciate his moral stance, what he's doing with his wife, his kids," Green said. "He's jacked up, and that's not good. I don't appreciate that." 

The Hall of Famer didn't stop there: "When you have responsibilites — young people looking at you, had this whole city in his hands — and when you do that, you're responsible for more than yourself, and that's selfish, and that's childish."

Green went on to state he thinks Griffin's downfall is "all on him." As for whether he's able to turn things around this year with the Cleveland Browns?

"I'd be surprised," he concluded.

 
I'd have to be pretty desperate to start Griffin week 1, against a new Schwartz defense, regardless of the Eagles DB situation. Seems like an unnecessary risk.

 
If he stutters a bit in weeks 1/2,try to buy cheap before gordon returns.  

Most QBs dont look that great sans theyre #1receiver and big man. 

 
The positive for Griffin from his first preseason in Cleveland: five big plays. But without the big plays the offense sputtered. Those five went for 215 yards and three touchdowns.

Set those aside and Griffin was 17-for-33 for 98 yards with no touchdowns and one interception.

Overall for the preseason, Griffin finished 22-for-38 for 313 yards with three touchdowns and an interception. His overall rating: 100.0. His rating without the big plays: 45.1.

 
:lmao:  If you take away all his TDs his TD to INT ratio is terrible. Plus get rid of all the completions and we'll see that he didn't complete a single pass that wasn't a completion. 

 
Plus it was pre-season with a new coaching staff.  I think with some time Hue Jackson can scheme and put this offense in position to make plays.  And what, at least to me, seemed liked a very poor group of weapons is now, potentially, one of the most dangerous in the league withd Pryor, Gordon, Barnidge, Coleman and a decent backfield duo of Crowell and Duke.  

Griffin went for $2 in my $200 DC based auction last night.  For that price he's well worth it as a replaceable QB2 who I think will have stretches of QB1 games.  I'd gladly take him as my backup QB in that league but that's another story.

 
i drafted very late as a flyer, but dropped to grab a rb flyer in c-mike.  also still holding t.west, tho i'm not sure what i'm hoping to see wk1.

ironically, my other qb (and only, currently) is cousins.  

still think rg3 is a good hold if you can this year, see what develops

 
Starting him this week in 4pt TD and low yardage point league (e.g. running QBs overvalued) over Alex Smith and Tyrod. Anyone else rolling the dice?

 
RG3 is a tremendous athlete.  Unfortunately he's not a very good QB.  I wish him the best but I think this experiment is going to crash and burn. 

 
Starting him this week in 4pt TD and low yardage point league (e.g. running QBs overvalued) over Alex Smith and Tyrod. Anyone else rolling the dice?
I wouldn't start RG3 over Tyrod personally. I am rooting for Robert, but have my doubts after watching every snap he's taken in the NFL.

 
I wouldn't start RG3 over Tyrod personally. I am rooting for Robert, but have my doubts after watching every snap he's taken in the NFL.
Yeah I've gone back and forth and it's definitely a gut > brain plau but just feel it's gonna be a scorefest in that one and I want to play RG3 while he's healthy. Think he'll run more than Taylor as well. 

 
Rolling with him over Fitz. Going ceiling over the safe floor here. We'll see, Schwartz is gonna put the pressure on him but I expect Hue to be creative.

 

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