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Official Rudy Giuliani Thread (1 Viewer)

Captain Cranks

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How does this guy not have his own thread? 

Here we discuss all things RG including whether he's completely senile or purposefully causing confusion. 

If it's the former, why is Trump keeping him around?  If it's the latter, is this a viable strategy or could it come back to haunt DJT? 

 
I love the part where he says something crazy that makes him look incompetent and then has to backtrack a couple hours later.

Gets me every time.

 
he just sort of reminds me of a pair of really old tighty whiteys where everything is getting thin and see through and they just sort of always smell like a fart thats what i imagine it would be like being around that brohan worn out and fart smelly take that to the bank brohans 

 
The guy literally couldn't stand to live outside the spotlight.  He'd rather be a nation-wide joke than forgotten.  Any biopic would have to be tragiocomic.

 
Rudy has reached a new level here, even for him. I have a feeling he will be called to testify in Congress. Should be interesting.

 
he just sort of reminds me of a pair of really old tighty whiteys where everything is getting thin and see through and they just sort of always smell like a fart thats what i imagine it would be like being around that brohan worn out and fart smelly take that to the bank brohans 
Not enough love for this.

 
Rudy is all in on this Ukraine/China stuff.  Claims it is all documented and calling out the media to prove him wrong. 

 
I just watched it. What a buffoon. 

But he makes me sad too. Actually, America’s mayor was a real thing to me once upon a time. Not his policies or scandals, but the way he became a unifying figure after 9/11. I liked and admired him. Seems so long ago. 

 
I just watched it. What a buffoon. 

But he makes me sad too. Actually, America’s mayor was a real thing to me once upon a time. Not his policies or scandals, but the way he became a unifying figure after 9/11. I liked and admired him. Seems so long ago. 
I watched a lot of the 9/11 docs on history channel this year and this was my thought too.  He went from a strong leader that day to just complete crazy lately.

It also had me admiring how Bush handled those first days/weeks.

 
On the news last night they were talking about this private cigar club in NYC that Rudy goes to nearly every night; he holds court there, and there are all sorts of other celebrities there, including Al Sharpton, lol. 

One thing that I found stunning- they said that, according to an old lawsuit involving one of his former wives, Rudy spent $12,000 per month on cigars, not including club fees, just on the cigars themselves. 

I don’t smoke cigars so I don’t know much about this but $12000 for cigars? 

 
On the news last night they were talking about this private cigar club in NYC that Rudy goes to nearly every night; he holds court there, and there are all sorts of other celebrities there, including Al Sharpton, lol. 

One thing that I found stunning- they said that, according to an old lawsuit involving one of his former wives, Rudy spent $12,000 per month on cigars, not including club fees, just on the cigars themselves. 

I don’t smoke cigars so I don’t know much about this but $12000 for cigars? 
We really need to find out about his security clearance. Who knows what he talks about after a couple of scotchs. 

 
Rudy: what’s the beeping noise? Why is it getting louder?

Old Rudy about to find out what happens to Trump lawyers that get let go.

 
Donald J. Trump

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So now they are after the legendary “crime buster” and greatest Mayor in the history of NYC, Rudy Giuliani. He may seem a little rough around the edges sometimes, but he is also a great guy and wonderful lawyer. Such a one sided Witch Hunt going on in USA. Deep State. Shameful!

 
Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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So now they are after the legendary “crime buster” and greatest Mayor in the history of NYC, Rudy Giuliani. He may seem a little rough around the edges sometimes, but he is also a great guy and wonderful lawyer. Such a one sided Witch Hunt going on in USA. Deep State. Shameful!
No matter how shady the #### you do always attack the other side. Witch hunt, deep state, fake news, etc.

 
Justice Department Distances Itself From Giuliani

In an unusual statement, a spokesman said department officials would not have met with President Trump’s personal lawyer had they known his associates were under investigation.

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In distancing itself from Mr. Giuliani and trying to draw bright lines around how the Justice Department will and will not engage with him, the department has also undercut the perception that Mr. Giuliani can influence some of Washington’s most important lawyers and decision makers. That could make it harder for Mr. Giuliani to represent clients who are under Justice Department scrutiny in the future.

“This is an incredibly unusual statement from the Justice Department, which does not comment on ongoing investigations or even acknowledge them, and it’s the kind of statement that would give clients pause about who is representing them,” said Joyce Vance, a former federal prosecutor.

 
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>>While the Southern District of New York has been investigating Mr. Giuliani’s associates — an inquiry that may be tied to a broader investigation of Mr. Giuliani himself — prosecutors there had not told Mr. Benczkowski of the Criminal Division of the case, as he does not oversee or supervise their work. The United States attorney’s offices report to the deputy attorney general, Jeffrey A. Rosen.

Prosecutors in Manhattan informed Attorney General William P. Barr about the investigation of Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman soon after he was confirmed in February, according to a Justice Department official. They were required to do so under the department’s rule that requires prosecutors to notify the attorney general of any cases that could generate national news media or congressional attention.

When Mr. Giuliani and other lawyers requested the meeting with the Justice Department to discuss a foreign bribery case, Mr. Benczkowski and the lawyers in the Fraud Section had not been informed of the Manhattan case and agreed to meet.<<
>>Mr. Giuliani himself is a uperson of interest in at least two federal investigations.<<
 

- So Barr knew in February.

- Besides Parnas/ Fruman, what is the other investigation?

 
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Looks like Barr is coming to Rudy's rescue - combining the SDNY investigation with home office:

Rachel Maddow MSNBC @maddow · 1h

"A move to bring department headquarters — 'Main Justice' as its widely known — deeper into the Giuliani probe is causing heartburn at SDNY"

Yeah, I wonder why.

 
Incredible. This guy butt dials a NYT reporter while literally is in the midst of a shady deal. 

 
I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of dollars in CASH they needed to come up with was only going to be used for something innocent and legal.

 
Looks like Barr is coming to Rudy's rescue - combining the SDNY investigation with home office:

Rachel Maddow MSNBC @maddow · 1h

"A move to bring department headquarters — 'Main Justice' as its widely known — deeper into the Giuliani probe is causing heartburn at SDNY"

Yeah, I wonder why.
What about referring something to NYS as opposed to Federal? Has to be some crossover there with this crew as to where crimes were committed (and any range of ancillary crimes)

 
Rudy making a reservation at the Genius Bar. 
 

No, the president’s cyber security advisor was not meeting with the president in the Oval Office - he walked into an Apple store because he was locked out of his iPhone after getting the password wrong 10 times.  

 
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The first red flag was Allen’s experience. She styles herself as a jet-setting, gun-porning, right-wing Instagram influencer. Her online bios say she was a “spokeswoman” for the 2016 Trump campaign, but in reality she was a teenage intern with a thin record of spokeswomaning. Allen also did social media for the 2018 congressional campaign of far-right Republican long-shot Tim Donnelly, founder of the California Minutemen Party, who didn’t come close to winning even the GOP vote. She volunteered for Virginia Women for Trump, and her bios say she now serves on the finance committee for Trump Victory Committee. (Allen’s LinkedIn omits her work on the Donnelly campaign.)

But her LinkedIn page has an anomaly: A 2016 summer internship Allen landed at a Long Island personal injury firm, a long way from her rural Virginia home.

That personal injury firm is Gucciardo Law, headed by Charles Gucciardo. Last week Giuliani and Gucciardo confirmed to the New York Times that Gucciardo gave $500,000 to the former mayor through Giuliani’s firm, Giuliani Partners, in two payments in September and October 2018. According to Gucciardo’s lawyer, the payments went to Giuliani on behalf of Fraud Guarantee, a company co-managed by Giuliani’s clients Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman. Their work with Fraud Guarantee — whose mission statement is to help their customers “reduce and mitigate fraud” — helped earn them a federal indictment last month.

...Strangely enough, we still don’t yet know how Gucciardo, Giuliani, and Parnas all met. The only thing that binds this group other than money is, oddly enough, Christianné Allen.

Facebook posts show Gucciardo met Allen at a 2015 Stanford University law seminar for high school students, where she impressed him. (Allen said in an Instagram story that she “did high school online.”) In the photos posted on Facebook by Gucciardo, Allen appears in the front row of a lecture hall, and then with her arm around Gucciardo’s son.

...Allen interned at Gucciardo’s firm the following year, and appeared with him at a pro-Trump event that October at Trump International Hotel in Washington, DC, where Gucciardo gave a lengthy speech.

After Trump’s election, Allen tried to start a combination marijuana business–reality TV show in Nevada with her father, registered at a house. Neither venture bore fruit, but after some travel, Allen attended another Trump fundraiser with Gucciardo at Trump International, held for major donors to the America First PAC in June 2018.

As far as we know, that $100,000-a-head event is the first time the various members of the group seem to have met, at least in public record: the first time Giuliani met Parnas; the first time Gucciardo met Parnas; the first time Giuliani met Gucciardo; and apparently the first time Giuliani was photographed with Allen. (Giuliani told me in a text he’s “known of” Gucciardo for a while.)

Parnas’s son, Aaron, was also present. (Aaron was the first person to comment on Allen’s Facebook post announcing her job with Giuliani.)

After the Trump International fundraiser, Gucciardo donated $50,000 to America First. The next month Parnas and Fruman traveled with Gucciardo to Israel, where they were photographed with Anthony Scaramucci, who said Parnas and Fruman were trying to “rope people into their game” on the trip. On his return, Parnas pledged Giuliani the $500,000 payment, but, needing cash, got Gucciardo to front the money. According to the New York Times, this money secured Parnas’s relationship with Giuliani, which as far as we know was about three months old.

Parnas and Fruman ramped up their work for Giuliani. In November 2018, according to Giuliani, Parnas began introducing him to Ukrainian officials, and Giuliani made his own trip to the country. Parnas and Fruman made some more trips abroad — including reportedly trying to shake down a powerful oligarch — and then, in April of this year, Gucciardo was given a "friend of Zion" award at a Times Square event that also honored Parnas and Fruman. Giuliani posed onstage for pictures.

Allen announced her new job with Giuliani in late September, but Giuliani’s Instagram account suggests she’d been involved in his social media operation since at least the end of August. An Internet Archive search shows that at some point between September 2 and 5 Giuliani’s Twitter account deleted an August 24 photo of Gucciardo, captioned, “A wonderful boat ride with Captain Charles Gucciardi.A great person.” [sic]

Allen joined Giuliani on a boat with Daily Caller contributors in July, after which they dined at Scaramucci’s restaurant.

And then there are the drugs. Allen’s Nevada marijuana business, Discovery Club, has since dissolved, and the alleged reality show, “High Stakes,” never got made. (She did do a podcast interview about the experience, however, which has since been deleted.)

Coincidentally, though, the Parnas and Fruman indictment alleges the two of them, with the help of two associates, tried to finagle illegal pot licenses for a Russian billionaire via donations to political candidates who could influence marijuana laws in Nevada, New York, and Florida. Their indictment alleges they started the effort when Gucciardo made the $500,000 loan to Fraud Guarantee. Around that same time, Gucciardo, who lives on Long Island, donated to a PAC supporting Florida GOP gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis. Parnas also donated to DeSantis, who upon winning the election legalized smokable medical marijuana. The governor has since returned Parnas’s donation.

It’s unclear how Allen came to Giuliani, whether through Gucciardo or Parnas or some other happy coincidence. No matter the path, it seems Giuliani and Allen by omission both tacitly acknowledge that these connections, if uncovered, might cause problems, but for whatever combination of reasons, Giuliani offered her the job, and Allen took it. Rudy's Twitter voice has been noticeably different since he brought her on, however, evincing that trademark Charlie Kirk-esque snark, grammar slightly improved, and penned in a young Trumpublican style. She’s injected a freshness that I imagine Giuliani finds revitalizing in such a stressful time, for better or worse. The old-school Giuliani brand, the savvy swinger of smoke-filled, backroom deals, the man who guided our greatest city through its worst tragedy, has given way to tossed-off lines imposed Powerpoint-style over a digital American flag.

This all reflects a larger theme in Trump world: As it becomes increasingly untenable for serious people to associate themselves with Trump, their world gets smaller, and the tried and true allies who hang on find themselves with fewer and fewer options for top-tier advisers, lawyers, campaign staff, and so on. It’s hard to quench the thirst for loyalty in the middle of such a drought, but, as the saying goes, there’s honor among thieves. They might at first seem like odd couples, but they tend to play in the same sandbox, by the same rules.

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- This is crazy nuts.

 
Rudy Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
Working on an important project with @OANN, intended to bring before the American people information Schiff (recently disclosed investor in Franklin Templton) “Star chamber” proceedings have covered up. Stay tuned.
Oh Rudy, what are you getting into?

 
The personal attorney to POTUS with a far right biased news network that feeds Trump conspiracy theory BS...and the GOP and many supporters want to mock the impeachment inquiry as a witch hunt?

 

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