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*** Official Russia vs. Ukraine Discussion - Invasion has begun *** (4 Viewers)
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The Big Donkey
Footballguy
glad they caught the intel leaker. 21 years old, how he has access to this is crazy.
massraider
Footballguy
Bizarre. Looks like he was posting it just to be big man on campus on a gaming Discord that had like 20 members.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
And a reservist.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Poland and Ukraine: The emerging alliance that could reshape Europe
Poland's leading role in the European response to Russia's Ukraine invasion is fueling talk of a eastward shift in Europe's geopolitical center of gravity with the Polish-Ukrainian alliance set to become increasingly influential.
www.atlanticcouncil.org
Chadstroma
Footballguy
And now he will be in Leavenworth for the next.... what? 20 years?
themeistersinger
Footballguy
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Given the ongoing discussions regarding the Ukrainian counter-offensive, it's crucial to understand russia's echeloned defense system along the frontline, particularly in the south. These defense lines are composed of multiple obstacles that Ukrainian forces will face
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Basically they said "Well... it worked like a charm in WWII.... considering we have no clue what we are doing, let's do that."
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Given the ongoing discussions regarding the Ukrainian counter-offensive, it's crucial to understand russia's echeloned defense system along the frontline, particularly in the south. These defense lines are composed of multiple obstacles that Ukrainian forces will face
themeistersinger
Footballguy
'Now or never': Ukraine readies for difficult counteroffensive
Ukrainian forces have for months been holding at bay a gruelling Russian offensive in battered towns and heavily shelled trenches spanning the eastern front line.But Ukrainian servicemen at different frontline sections have complained to AFP that they are outgunned by Russian forces with a...
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
How in the possible hell could he have had access to this information? If that dolt can do something like this we're doomed.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Pentagon leak raises troubling questions, but is unlikely to permanently alter U.S. relations with allies, experts say
Former spies say the U.S. can muddle through the latest Pentagon breach of intelligence documents, which, at least so far, pales in comparison to prior leaks.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Why is the West self-deterring in Ukraine?
Thus far, the West has communicated that the best that it can muster when it comes to vertical escalation is to second-guess and self-deter.
www.atlanticcouncil.org
culdeus
Footballguy
Sounds like he basically was admin for some secure cloud server.
This is a risk anywhere you store soft copies of damn near anything like we do today. There's always going to be someone with the keys that doesn't need the keys, otherwise when **** breaks nobody is around to fix it.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I don't know how long that dude is going away for, but I bet it's a long long time to a 21 year old.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Florence is in his future.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Tied to the conversation earlier about China. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...p&cvid=6208af537ee94bafb5fe2b490db5aa51&ei=39
I don't think you can de-link the Ukraine War from our concern with China. What happens there has massive consequences for what is turning into a bi-polar world of America and China.
I don't think you can de-link the Ukraine War from our concern with China. What happens there has massive consequences for what is turning into a bi-polar world of America and China.
culdeus
Footballguy
There are like a billion articles linked in here but one had a interesting angle that china with the one child thing has few fighting age males than you would think and can't really afford to pull them off the line. Plus few want to. It's not Nazi Germany.
That being said if it wasn't for deep red poverty states in the south here the US would be short men as well.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
You mean all the states that people are leaving the deep blue states for?
Signed someone who has only lived in deep blue states and someone who pays very close attention to migration patterns and anecdotally sees it as part of my job.
culdeus
Footballguy
The US forces are staffed in large numbers by people that grew up in the South. Not sure where you got the migration thing from. If the south didn't support the military it's not clear how we would be able to have an active force, and would instead be relying in large part on reservists.
Other countries are already seeing this burden hitting a tipping point. Even China.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
It seemed like an unwarranted swipe at states which people are moving to in large numbers while they flee the blue states considering "poor" and "red" had no bearing on your point but showed bias.
Anyways...
About 50% of RA recruits come from the following eight states (2020):
Texas (12%)
California (10.4%)
Florida (8.4%)
Georgia (5%)
North Carolina (4.6%)
New York (4.4%)
Illinois (3.2%)
Virginia (3.2%)
About 50% of RA recruits come from the following eight states (2021):
Texas (12.1%)
California (9.9%)
Florida (8.5%)
Georgia (4.9%)
North Carolina (4.7%)
New York (4.6%)
Ohio (3.4%)
Virginia (3.1%)
Top 8 states by population
California
Texas
Florida
New York
Pennsylvania
Illinois
Ohio
Georgia
(North Carolina = 9th and Virginia 12th)
There is a slight outsize of population representation by Texas and a little more for NC. These are from regular Army recruitment numbers. Looking at this, even though there is a bit of an increase from Southern states, it is fairly in line with population by states.
culdeus
Footballguy
Who Signs Up to Fight? Makeup of U.S. Recruits Shows Glaring Disparity (Published 2020)
More and more, new recruits come from the same small number of counties and are the children of old recruits.
You can read more here, there was also a good vox podcast on this
Uncle Sam really wants you by Today, Explained
The US military faces its worst recruiting crisis since the draft ended in 1973. Secretary of the Army Christine Wormuth — aware of the military’s reputation of forever wars, veteran suicide, and sexual assault — is working to convince a new generation to enlist anyway.
megaphone.link
Orange&Blue
Footballguy
freaking Pennsylvania... figures.
signed, a dad who just lost to their kid in Monopoly after landing on their hotel on Pennsylvania avenue.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
China and India are buying so much Russian oil that Moscow's now selling more crude than it was before invading Ukraine
India alone has gone from being a sporadic buyer of Russian crude to now relying on Russia to meet roughly half its total oil imports.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Yea, China and India happily will take cheap oil from them.
China and India are buying so much Russian oil that Moscow's now selling more crude than it was before invading Ukraine
India alone has gone from being a sporadic buyer of Russian crude to now relying on Russia to meet roughly half its total oil imports.finance.yahoo.com
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Wouldn't you?Yea, China and India happily will take cheap oil from them.China and India are buying so much Russian oil that Moscow's now selling more crude than it was before invading Ukraine
India alone has gone from being a sporadic buyer of Russian crude to now relying on Russia to meet roughly half its total oil imports.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
If I had the same level of value on human life and indifference to naked aggression to take advantage for my own gains... sure.Wouldn't you?Yea, China and India happily will take cheap oil from them.China and India are buying so much Russian oil that Moscow's now selling more crude than it was before invading Ukraine
India alone has gone from being a sporadic buyer of Russian crude to now relying on Russia to meet roughly half its total oil imports.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I was really more talking about India. Why would it be in their interest to shun cheap energy?
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Ukraine 43 million people
Russian 143 million cannon fodder and meat shields.
This war is being played out like a tower defense game. Just brutal.
Russian 143 million cannon fodder and meat shields.
This war is being played out like a tower defense game. Just brutal.
Jobber
Footballguy
Yep. India has to import most of their energy at the moment in both coal and oil. They are making huge strides in renewables but given their size and needs, it’ll take quite a while to wean themselves off of fossils.
rockaction
Footballguy
Still hesitant to check in here because it's so sad. Makes me feel small, insignificant, and weak. I pray for the soldiers who do not want to be caught in the crossfire and for the Ukrainian people displaced and affected by the war, some of whom have been killed, almost all of whom have had their lives completely disrupted.
There is evil on this earth incarnate. I hope that it passes in the next life.
There is evil on this earth incarnate. I hope that it passes in the next life.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
The reasons Europe has significantly reduced it's purchasing of Russian energy exports. Russian energy exports IS the Russian economy. The over reliance on Russia has put Europe in a bind but they have taken pain to try to pressure Russia and then India and China, whom have less respect for human life, see it as an opportunity to buy cheaper.
India is playing a game that it is going to lose and seemingly is too dumb or too arrogant to realize it. They are trying to be independent and become the other polar power in Asia opposite of China. They won't make it and if they don't align with the US more fully they will fall to far behind for it to matter.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Eh, Europe has waaaaaaaaaay more motivation to resist Russia than India. What did Russia ever do to the subcontinent?
beer 30
Footballguy
Well it is war, **** happens when people don't have anything left to lose and are forced to live like animals for a few months
The diesel one that we can track by the black smoke it gives off?
She's a beauty Clark
Jayrod
Footballguy
The Himalayas have always been a bit of a deterrent to invasion from the north.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
This photo is flawed.... you can't see the tugboat that's towing it.
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Insoxicated
These the same sources that were claiming they'd already destroyed 150 HIMAARS launchers and had blown up a dozen Leopards months before they were even on Ukranain soil?
80% of Russian Propaganda is outright fabrication and 20% is comically bad exaggeration.
There was one Leopard that was reportedly damaged during unloading (Barrel hit ground and popped the turret off with leverage). Unsure on how true but Russia was claiming they blew it up (Despite there being zero burn/explosion marks)
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Russia also reports that their equipment is as good or better than all NATO. I believe ZERO of anything that Russia says. They have no credibility at all.
That said.... if ANYONE knows about poorly storing old tanks and then trying to use them in battle.... it is the Russians.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Impossible and possible solutions to the Russo-Ukrainian War
Everyone wants the Russo-Ukrainian War to end, but exactly how peace is to be achieved is rather less clear. Easy solutions rest on unrealistic assumptions and are impossible, while difficult solut…
thehill.com
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Contrary to the many ‘Russian are stupid’ stereotypes that have developed throughout the war, they have demonstrated an ability in some areas to learn and adapt. This isn’t a statement of admiration. 1/25
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Pentagon Gives Statement On Russian T-90 Tank Left At Truck Stop
The Pentagon confirmed that the Russian tank that found its way to Louisiana was indeed headed to Aberdeen Proving Ground.
www.thedrive.com
Chadstroma
Footballguy
"is fairly modern by Russian standards" made me laughPentagon Gives Statement On Russian T-90 Tank Left At Truck Stop
The Pentagon confirmed that the Russian tank that found its way to Louisiana was indeed headed to Aberdeen Proving Ground.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Russian people are not stupid but they have never shown a propensity for strategic or tactical thinking in military matters. Their officers basically know two ways of attacking.... large artillery bombardments and human wave tactics. Outside of those two they struggle. That goes back to before modern times.Contrary to the many ‘Russian are stupid’ stereotypes that have developed throughout the war, they have demonstrated an ability in some areas to learn and adapt. This isn’t a statement of admiration. 1/25
Their officer corps from their general staff on down to their junior officers are lacking and they basically have no non-commissioned officers to speak of.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
That is one thing about the 'cost' of assistance. Not an insignificant amount of it are things at the end or nearing the end of their service life. For example, M113's have long been pushed out of front line service by the Bradley IFV which in tern is on it's way out with the OMFV program. We actually wanted to have replaced both by 2018 but that didn't happen. I am sure it makes sense accounting wise to talley that kind of stuff up but is it a true cost?
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