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The Anaheim move was a bit of a pipe dream anyway. The Maloofs owed $150 million to the NBA and the city of Sacramento, and David Stern wouldn't let them move without first paying off the loans.At least the Seattle deals allowed for those loans to be paid off.
Maloofs have said "for what it's worth" that they want to move on and will sell to either city.
The current price is a result of a perfect storm. They would be morons not to sell
Yup. Who else is there to sell to? Sac group is putting 50% of the price in escrow this week, it probably won't be an issue.
This is the only bad part this whole thing worked out great for the Maloofs.
Our rivalry with our little friends to the south is one of the few reasons I miss the Sonics, so I'm even less eager to get the Trailblazers.
The Kings franchise is really just one giant chain of theft and subterfuge. Rochester should rightfully still have dibs on the franchise
Probably more accurate to say that it's been so incompetently managed for decades that the team wears out their welcome eventually. But, the good people of Sacramento are gluttons for punishment, apparently.The Kings franchise is really just one giant chain of theft and subterfuge. Rochester should rightfully still have dibs on the franchise
I'm not really sure why you're claiming to be punished at the moment. Upset you guys have a basketball team?Probably more accurate to say that it's been so incompetently managed for decades that the team wears out their welcome eventually. But, the good people of Sacramento are gluttons for punishment, apparently.The Kings franchise is really just one giant chain of theft and subterfuge. Rochester should rightfully still have dibs on the franchise
Where did you get that from? The kings franchise has historically been one of the worst managed in the league, which resulted in exactly nobody caring when they left KC, and is why they really have no right to have received the type of support they have in Sacramento. I do have high hopes the new group will more progressively and intelligently manage the team.I'm not really sure why you're claiming to be punished at the moment. Upset you guys have a basketball team?Probably more accurate to say that it's been so incompetently managed for decades that the team wears out their welcome eventually. But, the good people of Sacramento are gluttons for punishment, apparently.The Kings franchise is really just one giant chain of theft and subterfuge. Rochester should rightfully still have dibs on the franchise
are we calling the Maloofs the new group now?thecatch said:Where did you get that from? The kings franchise has historically been one of the worst managed in the league, which resulted in exactly nobody caring when they left KC, and is why they really have no right to have received the type of support they have in Sacramento. I do have high hopes the new group will more progressively and intelligently manage the team.proninja said:I'm not really sure why you're claiming to be punished at the moment. Upset you guys have a basketball team?thecatch said:Probably more accurate to say that it's been so incompetently managed for decades that the team wears out their welcome eventually. But, the good people of Sacramento are gluttons for punishment, apparently.Doug B said:The Kings franchise is really just one giant chain of theft and subterfuge. Rochester should rightfully still have dibs on the franchiseproninja said:
Noare we calling the Maloofs the new group now?thecatch said:Where did you get that from? The kings franchise has historically been one of the worst managed in the league, which resulted in exactly nobody caring when they left KC, and is why they really have no right to have received the type of support they have in Sacramento. I do have high hopes the new group will more progressively and intelligently manage the team.proninja said:I'm not really sure why you're claiming to be punished at the moment. Upset you guys have a basketball team?thecatch said:Probably more accurate to say that it's been so incompetently managed for decades that the team wears out their welcome eventually. But, the good people of Sacramento are gluttons for punishment, apparently.Doug B said:The Kings franchise is really just one giant chain of theft and subterfuge. Rochester should rightfully still have dibs on the franchiseproninja said:
Think that is one of two bad aspects.Wooderson said:
Good post. I also think that the NBA wanted to be very careful setting a precedent that teams could be moved based on the whims of the highest bidder. I am sure they have a waiting list of people wanting to own teams. If every Billionaire wanting in could buy a team and pay for an arena than you might see a rash of team movement that would not be good for the league. I think the Seattle group will get a team from Minny or Milwaukee, and it will come after the local folks choose not to pay to keep them.
I would think the NBA did plenty of due-diligence to make sure that it would go without a hitch. Would be a disaster if the package fell apart and the Seattle guys said "no thanks."
This funding package still needs official approval from the city council. And an environmental review (which probably has 0.0% chance of failing.) There will be lawsuits from people who don't think that the parking revenues that already exist will magically cough up an extra $250 or so million to keep this from eating into the already very depleted Sacramento general fund (hint: it will eat into the general fund by a lot.) Even KJ said last night that there's still work to do, and they don't want to dance in the end zone. Yesterday was a big step for Sacramento, and people there should feel very pleased. They've gone from being the underdog to being the big favorites. They still have to actually do what they have said they will do, and that's easier said than done. A lot easier.
Yup- the theme throughout this whole narrative, starting with Schultz selling the sonics, is public subsidies (or, to be less generous, pro sports leagues extorting cities across the country). The nba doesnt want to move a team unless they cant get public stadium money. Seattle, perhaps justifiably, wasn't playing ball during what turned out to be the critical window, and so they were moved. Sacramento ponied up, so the NBA looks like they will keep the team there despite it being a less lucrative market. This whole sequence sends a clear message/warning to every other city in not just the NBA, but probably pro sports as well.
Yup - and the clear message I'd like to send back is that I don't want the NBA in my town.
I would say that the odds of the deal going through EXACTLY as it was described to the NBA......are about 1000-to-1.They'll probably end up with a watered-down version of what was promised, and the NBA will proclaim it as a victory while the good people of Seattle sit there and say "What the hell??"
Arena seating capacities:1985-88: Seattle 14,252, Sacramento 10,333
Sorry if my post was construed as a Seattle/Sacramento thing, it wasn't. What got me thinking more was the notion that the Bucks and Pacers could be in play based on that other post. Wow time flies, I did not realize that the Bradley Center in Milwaukee is 25 years old now. The fact that the long-time U.S. Senator there, Herb Kohl, owns the team makes me a little dubious of the idea that it would be an easy move, though.
That's great for you and all, but many disagree and are working hard for those who would like the NBA in their town.
Sorry if my post was construed as a Seattle/Sacramento thing, it wasn't. What got me thinking more was the notion that the Bucks and Pacers could be in play based on that other post. Wow time flies, I did not realize that the Bradley Center in Milwaukee is 25 years old now. The fact that the long-time U.S. Senator there, Herb Kohl, owns the team makes me a little dubious of the idea that it would be an easy move, though.
Sorry if my post was construed as a Seattle/Sacramento thing, it wasn't. What got me thinking more was the notion that the Bucks and Pacers could be in play based on that other post. Wow time flies, I did not realize that the Bradley Center in Milwaukee is 25 years old now. The fact that the long-time U.S. Senator there, Herb Kohl, owns the team makes me a little dubious of the idea that it would be an easy move, though.
The only reason KJ was able to put a deal together so fast was because there have always been buyers (and offers) for the Kings in Sacramento.. The Maloofs were adamant they would never sell.
Sellout Seasons
Good posting was just saying this to my wife. The fans like to act like they were a deciding factor but they just were not.
I'm stoked on the Downtown arena since I live close by. Got tired to driving to BFE Natomas for basketball games and concerts.
This was really the only play Hansen had left. And I'm glad he did it, but I'm upset that the NBA and the Maloofs are the ones who will benefit.
