This is totally off topic, but the idea of the thread reminded me that last night, I saw that Don King is offering to move the Miami Dolphins to Palm Beach (about 90 minutes north) since the Dolphins aren't getting public funding to put a canopy over their stadium. It probably won't go through, but it was interesting, to say the least.
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The NBA asked the Sacramento group to put 20% into an escro account, instead they put 50%.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It is certainly worth a shot if has the money to spare. Who knows, it might be just enough to make them rethink the relocation vote. Is this now $100 million he has raised his initial bid from? (25 earlier in the process). Smart that he did it late too giving Sacremento little time to react.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
It seems like all the NBA cares about is public funding for new stadiums.
proninja
Footballguy
Lol. Good one.
It's unlikely it works at this point, but it's silly of him to not try if he's got another bullet to fire
Seems like he would have been better off squashing the Sacramento effort out of the gates if he was really willing to bid whatever it takes. If he put the team at, say, a $650m valuation two months ago, maybe Johnson isn't able to rally another ownership group interested in competing. Now, you have an overwhelmingly negative committee recommendation and Stern's comments that the NBA wont let this become a bidding war to overcome
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proninja
Footballguy
Maloofs won't sell to the Sacramento group. They have a backup offer from Hansen's group to buy a minority share that will give them the cash they need to run the team.
Then Sacramento needs to negotiate a new arena with the maloofs or else seattle is ready and waiting. Your move, KJ. Pretty obvious why he wanted Seattle to give up. Hansen and ballmer have bigger guns and more bullets.
http://espn.go.com/espn/sportscenter/feed/#1-9265605
Then Sacramento needs to negotiate a new arena with the maloofs or else seattle is ready and waiting. Your move, KJ. Pretty obvious why he wanted Seattle to give up. Hansen and ballmer have bigger guns and more bullets.
http://espn.go.com/espn/sportscenter/feed/#1-9265605
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Footballguy
Amazing theater.
I don't have a huge horse in this race but I would prefer the Sacramento team remain in Sacramento for reasons outside of the NBA.
That being said, the money that is being thrown around is amazing. Hansen seems to have a bottomless pit.
I don't have a huge horse in this race but I would prefer the Sacramento team remain in Sacramento for reasons outside of the NBA.
That being said, the money that is being thrown around is amazing. Hansen seems to have a bottomless pit.
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I would have to think the NBA would rather Sacremento keeps to team, so they can continue to extort cities for publicly funded arenas and let the owners get richer without investing much in the building they use.
Teef
Footballguy
I feel bad for the people of Seattle 'cause the local media keeps on feeding them only what they want to hear. Yet Seattle media's 'sources' have been wrong every step of the way and keep on re-kindling false hopes.
This was never Seattle's team to win, it's Sacramento's team to lose. Sac and the NBA are on cruise control to finish the deal, meanwhile Seattle is looking like they've fired their final desperation shot. NBA's already said it isn't going to end in a bidding war and people stopped caring about what the Maloofs say years ago.
This was never Seattle's team to win, it's Sacramento's team to lose. Sac and the NBA are on cruise control to finish the deal, meanwhile Seattle is looking like they've fired their final desperation shot. NBA's already said it isn't going to end in a bidding war and people stopped caring about what the Maloofs say years ago.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Why would the Maloofs (or anyone, for that matter) agree to leave ~$75 million dollars on the table?? The NBA can't force them to sell the team for a lower price, right?
proninja
Footballguy
I agree with this, and I think it's the main reason Seattle is the underdog in this fight
proninja
Footballguy
x1000I would have preferred the same thing before 41 years of history got wrestled out of Seattle. Now, I want a team back, and if the team Sacramento stole from Kansas City is the casualty, then, well, that sucks for the good people of Sacramento, and they don't deserve to be the casualty of the NBA business model any more than those of us from Seattle deserved it.
#gosonics
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The General
Footballguy
This whole fiasco makes me feel a bit guilty for liking pro sports so much.
In the middle you have Stern. Who is a world class creep, lying, petty little flaming dogturd of a person yet what he is doing is arguably beneficial for the league in the long run. The Maloofs from what I have read are border line scam artists with few redeeming qualities. Hansen is some mysterious hedge fund billionaire, who by willing to overpay by a few hundred million, is beginning to look ridiculous.
In the end people will gladly race back, myself included probably, in brand new Sonics (or Kings) apparel to shell out hundreds of dollars for crap seats and $12 beers, all to watch at best mediocre product.
In the middle you have Stern. Who is a world class creep, lying, petty little flaming dogturd of a person yet what he is doing is arguably beneficial for the league in the long run. The Maloofs from what I have read are border line scam artists with few redeeming qualities. Hansen is some mysterious hedge fund billionaire, who by willing to overpay by a few hundred million, is beginning to look ridiculous.
In the end people will gladly race back, myself included probably, in brand new Sonics (or Kings) apparel to shell out hundreds of dollars for crap seats and $12 beers, all to watch at best mediocre product.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Sums it up perfectly.
proninja
Footballguy
Phil Jackson is waiting to see what happens with the Kings before he takes a different job. He wants to work in Seattle for Hansen.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-roundup-currys-status-tbd-235033632--nba.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-roundup-currys-status-tbd-235033632--nba.html
The General
Footballguy
I'm sure Hansen will throw a mountain of money at him. Good luck running the triangle with Demarcus Cousins, Phil.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
And the wheel keeps turning in this fascinating story
proninja
Footballguy
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There are members of the Sacramento media who have been spot-on over the last month. Problem is, it's not what you want to hear. One person is Carmichael Dave (@CarmichaelDave on Twitter). Not sure if I'd call him media, but he's well-connected and spot on, of late.
proninja
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Why the "oops"? That tweet appears to match the latest ESPN article from which I quoted above.
Fennis
Footballguy
Why the "oops"? That tweet appears to match the latest ESPN article from which I quoted above.They didnt reaffirm (or reverse) their position. they did nothing.
Dale Kasler@dakasler
Am told the relo/finance committee conf call is over but no recommendations made on #NBAKings
about 10 hours ago
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Fennis
Footballguy
http://blog.seattlepi.com/sonics/page/2/
Longtime P-I sports columnist Art Thiel, now at SportspressNW.com, reported in a column filed Friday evening that the NBA relocation committee’s vote on April 29 to deny the Kings’ move to Seattle was actually 4-3, not 7-0 as widely reported. Thiel says his source told him “the dissenters were asked to throw in their votes for the sake of unanimity.”
– Tom Ziller, who created a Kings fan blog and is also the lead NBA writer at SBNation.com (how does that work, exactly?) tweeted Saturday that the 4-3 vote report is false. Ziller quotes Tim Frank, who is the NBA’s senior VP for basketball communications, as saying “”It’s a total fabrication.”
Longtime P-I sports columnist Art Thiel, now at SportspressNW.com, reported in a column filed Friday evening that the NBA relocation committee’s vote on April 29 to deny the Kings’ move to Seattle was actually 4-3, not 7-0 as widely reported. Thiel says his source told him “the dissenters were asked to throw in their votes for the sake of unanimity.”
– Tom Ziller, who created a Kings fan blog and is also the lead NBA writer at SBNation.com (how does that work, exactly?) tweeted Saturday that the 4-3 vote report is false. Ziller quotes Tim Frank, who is the NBA’s senior VP for basketball communications, as saying “”It’s a total fabrication.”
proninja
Footballguy
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
There is no good reason for Sacramento and Seattle fans to get upset with each other. We don't matter. We aren't involved, and both cities have done a perfectly adequate job of supporting their team over plenty of years. So let's not fight in here, even while the people who do matter fight bitterly.
There is no good reason for Sacramento and Seattle fans to get upset with each other. We don't matter. We aren't involved, and both cities have done a perfectly adequate job of supporting their team over plenty of years. So let's not fight in here, even while the people who do matter fight bitterly.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Right no reason for fans to go at it. I also follow and listen to the radio show of Charmichel Dave. He is pro Sac of course but does seem to be plugged in.
I'm about 85% sure as of now the Kings stay in Sac. Kevin Johnson will be on Dan Patrick Tuesaday thopefully he will have some new information.
I'm about 85% sure as of now the Kings stay in Sac. Kevin Johnson will be on Dan Patrick Tuesaday thopefully he will have some new information.
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It's pro-Sac, I wouldn't want to hear anything pro-Sac if I were a Seattle homer.
Not at all. ...is it too late to work out a Kings for Seahawks trade?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Are the Sounders more popular up there than the Mariners now? The crowds I see on TV at their games look amazing.
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This is hilarious. You've been trolling Sacramento fans with "it's over" posts and comments about the city's viability as a pro sports market since January.
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proninja
Footballguy
There's a part of me that hopes Hansen just goes nuclear. Sue the league, drag it out, and make this as ugly as possible. Mostly because I hate David Stern and want his last year to be as awful as possible in the bed he made.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
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I did too.
After Anaheim, then Virginia Beach (WTH?) I canceled my season tickets after 16 years, but hung in there as a fan. Then when Hansen/Ballmer/Seattle jumped in, I figured we were toast and mentally jumped ship. It didn't make sense and still doesn't, why the NBA wouldn't want to move a team to Seattle so I could see why you, the media and the city were so confident.
Turns out, it's not looking like it was ever SEA v. SAC, but rather SAC v. SAC and the Seattle served as a catalyst to show the Kings actually were for sale and drove KJ and the Sacramento group to pull it together and get something done without the Maloof's BS.
I think Hansen/Ballmer would be smart not to go nuclear if they want another shot at a team. The NBA sounds like a Country Club and has it's own say on who gets in. I wouldn't be surprised to see H/B get another shot at another team in the next year or two. Heck, who knows, you'll likely end up with one that's actually close to being a playoff team or better.
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The General
Footballguy
Love the Sounders but if the Mariners only played 20 or so home games a year they would outdraw a soccer team.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The growth in Sounders audience size is impressive since they entered MLS. Seattle is a very good sports town. 2009: 30,9432010: 36,1742011: 38,4962012: 43,144Do you guys in Seattle think the Sounders will take a step back in popularity if/when they city gets an NBA and NHL or are they starting to ingrain themselves?
proninja
Footballguy
I don't think they'll blink. Sounders fans are militant about it. There's always been a huge soccer following around here, there's a ton of it played, and I don't think any of those people are going to ditch the Sounders for the NBA. Fairly different markets imo.
Also, this is going to be a good hockey town too.
