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[Hooper31]

Seattle is a very good sports town.

Seattle is the definition of a fair-weather sports town. I speak from many many years of first hand experience.

 

[FatMax]

Sacramento guys: Why do the Maloofs hate the city so much?

I can guess, but that's all I'm doing. There's a long history of bad blood, not just with Johnson, but with the previous two mayors as well. The Maloofs owe (and still do, as far as I know) about 70MM to the city that they inherited when they bought the team from the previous owner a few years ago. A few Sacramento city officials have publicly (and less than gracefully) held that over their heads, threatening to sue them when they were talking to Anaheim. Then Johnson came along, made peace with everyone, and brokered the arena deal last year that the Maloofs deliberately tanked. After doing that, Johnson went on camera (more than once) and trashed them. Deservingly so, IMO. They brothers hugged Johnson at center court during the last game of the season, got a bunch of fans that had previously checked out excited again, sold a bunch of season tickets, then pulled the plug.

In reality, the Maloofs are prima donna (unts. I've seen mention of Carmichael Dave in this thread. They had him fired from his old radio job (on the Kings flagship station) for talking badly about them on air.

 

[proninja]

Sacramento guys: Why do the Maloofs hate the city so much?

I can guess, but that's all I'm doing. There's a long history of bad blood, not just with Johnson, but with the previous two mayors as well. The Maloofs owe (and still do, as far as I know) about 70MM to the city that they inherited when they bought the team from the previous owner a few years ago. A few Sacramento city officials have publicly (and less than gracefully) held that over their heads, threatening to sue them when they were talking to Anaheim. Then Johnson came along, made peace with everyone, and brokered the arena deal last year that the Maloofs deliberately tanked. After doing that, Johnson went on camera (more than once) and trashed them. Deservingly so, IMO. They brothers hugged Johnson at center court during the last game of the season, got a bunch of fans that had previously checked out excited again, sold a bunch of season tickets, then pulled the plug.

In reality, the Maloofs are prima donna (unts. I've seen mention of Carmichael Dave in this thread. They had him fired from his old radio job (on the Kings flagship station) for talking badly about them on air.

Thanks. Throughout all of this I've wondered why they're selling out the city in such a big way. We like to complain about Schultz up here, but he was never this bad.

 

[FatMax]

Sacramento guys: Why do the Maloofs hate the city so much?

I can guess, but that's all I'm doing. There's a long history of bad blood, not just with Johnson, but with the previous two mayors as well. The Maloofs owe (and still do, as far as I know) about 70MM to the city that they inherited when they bought the team from the previous owner a few years ago. A few Sacramento city officials have publicly (and less than gracefully) held that over their heads, threatening to sue them when they were talking to Anaheim. Then Johnson came along, made peace with everyone, and brokered the arena deal last year that the Maloofs deliberately tanked. After doing that, Johnson went on camera (more than once) and trashed them. Deservingly so, IMO. They brothers hugged Johnson at center court during the last game of the season, got a bunch of fans that had previously checked out excited again, sold a bunch of season tickets, then pulled the plug.

In reality, the Maloofs are prima donna (unts. I've seen mention of Carmichael Dave in this thread. They had him fired from his old radio job (on the Kings flagship station) for talking badly about them on air.

Thanks. Throughout all of this I've wondered why they're selling out the city in such a big way. We like to complain about Schultz up here, but he was never this bad.

The Maloof factor is why I can't get excited about Sacramento potentially keeping their team. I honestly believe if the local group had a higher offer than Seattle, the Maloof still wouldn't sell to them just to prove a point. Their puckered butthole levels are off the charts.

We'll see though. I'm not nearly as confident as some others are.

 

[proninja]

Sacramento guys: Why do the Maloofs hate the city so much?

I can guess, but that's all I'm doing. There's a long history of bad blood, not just with Johnson, but with the previous two mayors as well. The Maloofs owe (and still do, as far as I know) about 70MM to the city that they inherited when they bought the team from the previous owner a few years ago. A few Sacramento city officials have publicly (and less than gracefully) held that over their heads, threatening to sue them when they were talking to Anaheim. Then Johnson came along, made peace with everyone, and brokered the arena deal last year that the Maloofs deliberately tanked. After doing that, Johnson went on camera (more than once) and trashed them. Deservingly so, IMO. They brothers hugged Johnson at center court during the last game of the season, got a bunch of fans that had previously checked out excited again, sold a bunch of season tickets, then pulled the plug.

In reality, the Maloofs are prima donna (unts. I've seen mention of Carmichael Dave in this thread. They had him fired from his old radio job (on the Kings flagship station) for talking badly about them on air.

Thanks. Throughout all of this I've wondered why they're selling out the city in such a big way. We like to complain about Schultz up here, but he was never this bad.

The Maloof factor is why I can't get excited about Sacramento potentially keeping their team. I honestly believe if the local group had a higher offer than Seattle, the Maloof still wouldn't sell to them just to prove a point. Their puckered butthole levels are off the charts.

We'll see though. I'm not nearly as confident as some others are.

A couple rumblings from today:

The Seattle group's latest price raise/relo fee raise was done at the suggestion of the league office.

There's a new group in Sacramento who supposedly has the funds to do it that is going to try to kill the terrible arena deal to the city that can't afford it. (I'm sorry if that seems harsh)

I have no idea what's going to happen. I'm trying to avoid the honks on both sides.

 

[One]

Sacramento guys: Why do the Maloofs hate the city so much?

I can guess, but that's all I'm doing. There's a long history of bad blood, not just with Johnson, but with the previous two mayors as well. The Maloofs owe (and still do, as far as I know) about 70MM to the city that they inherited when they bought the team from the previous owner a few years ago. A few Sacramento city officials have publicly (and less than gracefully) held that over their heads, threatening to sue them when they were talking to Anaheim. Then Johnson came along, made peace with everyone, and brokered the arena deal last year that the Maloofs deliberately tanked. After doing that, Johnson went on camera (more than once) and trashed them. Deservingly so, IMO. They brothers hugged Johnson at center court during the last game of the season, got a bunch of fans that had previously checked out excited again, sold a bunch of season tickets, then pulled the plug. In reality, the Maloofs are prima donna (unts. I've seen mention of Carmichael Dave in this thread. They had him fired from his old radio job (on the Kings flagship station) for talking badly about them on air.

Thanks. Throughout all of this I've wondered why they're selling out the city in such a big way. We like to complain about Schultz up here, but he was never this bad.

The Maloof factor is why I can't get excited about Sacramento potentially keeping their team. I honestly believe if the local group had a higher offer than Seattle, the Maloof still wouldn't sell to them just to prove a point. Their puckered butthole levels are off the charts. We'll see though. I'm not nearly as confident as some others are.

A couple rumblings from today: The Seattle group's latest price raise/relo fee raise was done at the suggestion of the league office. There's a new group in Sacramento who supposedly has the funds to do it that is going to try to kill the terrible arena deal to the city that can't afford it. (I'm sorry if that seems harsh) I have no idea what's going to happen. I'm trying to avoid the honks on both sides.

@aaronbruski: Source on timing of the SAC anti-arena release to media: "It's all PR. Once you do due diligence, you see that there's nothing there."

 

[Fennis]

Seattle is a very good sports town.

Seattle is the definition of a fair-weather sports town. I speak from many many years of first hand experience.

Really? I've only been here 8 years, but I don't find that to be the case. I think it is a really good sports town. Better than most.

 

[Hooper31]

Seattle is a very good sports town.

Seattle is the definition of a fair-weather sports town. I speak from many many years of first hand experience.

Really? I've only been here 8 years, but I don't find that to be the case. I think it is a really good sports town. Better than most.

Better standard of living? More laid back populace? I wouldn't debate those, but as far as sports fans go...

The Mariners and Sonics are both great examples. Even the Seahawks all through the 90s. If the team is winning people go nuts for that particular sport. If they aren't winning the seats are empty. How else would you define fair-weather?

Seattle fans weren't packing the seats for the Sonics when they were losing. Nor are they filling up Safeco right now. The Kingdome wasn't always selling out during the Behring years. They are currently on a sellout streak dating back to 2003, but that's only because they've been mostly a winning team since then. If they put together five straight losing seasons you can be sure that good seats will become available.

I'm not knocking the Seattle people in general. They have other priorities. There's a ton of other things for people to do in the Puget Sound area. How many other places can you go snow skiing and water skiing on the same day? If we're going to talk about really good sports towns I think you need to set a standard. The Green Bay Packer fans set a high standard. The Boston Red Sox fans set a high standard. No Seattle team comes close. Those fan bases have a tradition of keeping their stadiums packed even when the team is on a long losing streak. That's just not true in Seattle.

 

[Fennis]

Seattle is a very good sports town.

Seattle is the definition of a fair-weather sports town. I speak from many many years of first hand experience.

Really? I've only been here 8 years, but I don't find that to be the case. I think it is a really good sports town. Better than most.

Better standard of living? More laid back populace? I wouldn't debate those, but as far as sports fans go...

The Mariners and Sonics are both great examples. Even the Seahawks all through the 90s. If the team is winning people go nuts for that particular sport. If they aren't winning the seats are empty. How else would you define fair-weather?

Seattle fans weren't packing the seats for the Sonics when they were losing. Nor are they filling up Safeco right now. The Kingdome wasn't always selling out during the Behring years. They are currently on a sellout streak dating back to 2003, but that's only because they've been mostly a winning team since then. If they put together five straight losing seasons you can be sure that good seats will become available.

I'm not knocking the Seattle people in general. They have other priorities. There's a ton of other things for people to do in the Puget Sound area. How many other places can you go snow skiing and water skiing on the same day? If we're going to talk about really good sports towns I think you need to set a standard. The Green Bay Packer fans set a high standard. The Boston Red Sox fans set a high standard. No Seattle team comes close. Those fan bases have a tradition of keeping their stadiums packed even when the team is on a long losing streak. That's just not true in Seattle.

I guess we differ if shelling out money to see a ####ty product like the Mariners year after year after year after year equals a fair weather fan. If attendance is the barometer, I agree when the teams repeatedly puts out a poor product, attendance suffers.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Seattle is a very good sports town.

Seattle is the definition of a fair-weather sports town. I speak from many many years of first hand experience.

Really? I've only been here 8 years, but I don't find that to be the case. I think it is a really good sports town. Better than most.

Better standard of living? More laid back populace? I wouldn't debate those, but as far as sports fans go... The Mariners and Sonics are both great examples. Even the Seahawks all through the 90s. If the team is winning people go nuts for that particular sport. If they aren't winning the seats are empty. How else would you define fair-weather? Seattle fans weren't packing the seats for the Sonics when they were losing. Nor are they filling up Safeco right now. The Kingdome wasn't always selling out during the Behring years. They are currently on a sellout streak dating back to 2003, but that's only because they've been mostly a winning team since then. If they put together five straight losing seasons you can be sure that good seats will become available. I'm not knocking the Seattle people in general. They have other priorities. There's a ton of other things for people to do in the Puget Sound area. How many other places can you go snow skiing and water skiing on the same day? If we're going to talk about really good sports towns I think you need to set a standard. The Green Bay Packer fans set a high standard. The Boston Red Sox fans set a high standard. No Seattle team comes close. Those fan bases have a tradition of keeping their stadiums packed even when the team is on a long losing streak. That's just not true in Seattle.

I guess we differ if shelling out money to see a ####ty product like the Mariners year after year after year after year equals a fair weather fan. If attendance is the barometer, I agree when the teams repeatedly puts out a poor product, attendance suffers.

It is interesting that he mentioned the Red Sox. Sure they banged out the park in incredible numbers but that also corresponded to some great teams including two World Series winners and very frequently making the playoffs. They had a bad season last year and the team was literally skewered by the local media for pretending to claim sellouts when many sections were empty. And as expected this year, after the bad season last year, attendance is off more than 5k a game compared to the same point last season. And this was after a single bad year. It is pretty easy to see why interest in the Mariners is not at a high level.

 

[proninja]

I don't think Seattle fans are any more or less fair weather than any other fans. Except for probably Green Bay football fans. Human nature is human nature in every city around.

 

[Hooper31]

I don't think Seattle fans are any more or less fair weather than any other fans. Except for probably Green Bay football fans. Human nature is human nature in every city around.

Fair enough. I'm on board that Seattle fans aren't worthy of special recognition either way.

 

[Wooderson]

@dakasler: George Maloof says Hansen "has a great shot at getting it done" http://t.co/qIdSLev137

Screw you George . I hope you squander all this money just like you did daddy's.

 

[Fennis]

What could have been:

Darnell Mayberry‏@DarnellMayberry13 May

Kevin Durant rocking the throwback pic.twitter.com/LxTCk8D0pJ

 

[jonessed]

@dakasler: George Maloof says Hansen "has a great shot at getting it done" http://t.co/qIdSLev137

Screw you George . I hope you squander all this money just like you did daddy's.

If the NBA says the Kings can't move to Seattle the Maloofs can either sell the team at the current inflated rate to the Sacramento group or sit on it and watch it devalue.I'm fine either way.

 

[proninja]

Some really interesting stuff here

https://twitter.com/TheMontyShow

 

[Wooderson]

 

[thecatch]

Well it appears the NBA holds the Maloofs in roughly the same regard as Sacramento does.

 

[Wooderson]

@sam_amick: The NBA Board of Governors has voted down the relocation bid to move the Kings to Seattle, @USATODAYsports has learned

 

[Wooderson]

Way to go Sacramento. Huge for the city.

 

[proninja]

Way to go Sacramento. Huge for the city.

Happy for the classy fans of Sacramento. You guys didn't deserve to get screwed in this deal.

 

[Wooderson]

Way to go Sacramento. Huge for the city.

Happy for the classy fans of Sacramento. You guys didn't deserve to get screwed in this deal.

Thanks, feel bad for Seattle but Sacramento needed this in the worst way. To bring a new arena downtown is a big deal for Sac.

 

[greenroom]

Still don't think this is over. Sac won this battle, but the current owners are still in place, and till they sell I have a feeling we will be revisiting this again.

 

[Wooderson]

Still don't think this is over. Sac won this battle, but the current owners are still in place, and till they sell I have a feeling we will be revisiting this again.

Nah it's done. Maloofs said they will not take legal action. Sten said in his presser that he hopes the sale is done with in 48 hours. Which I think means deal is done right now just need to finish it up.

 

[Fennis]

Way to go Sacramento. Huge for the city.

Happy for the classy fans of Sacramento. You guys didn't deserve to get screwed in this deal.

Thanks, feel bad for Seattle but Sacramento needed this in the worst way. To bring a new arena downtown is a big deal for Sac.

what still needs to occur for the arena to actually happen?

 

[jonessed]

Way to go Sacramento. Huge for the city.

Happy for the classy fans of Sacramento. You guys didn't deserve to get screwed in this deal.

Thanks, feel bad for Seattle but Sacramento needed this in the worst way. To bring a new arena downtown is a big deal for Sac.

what still needs to occur for the arena to actually happen?

To get through the inevitable lawsuits. I believe everything else has been sorted out.

 

[Fennis]

I am rooting for Sac to keep their team, personally I have no problem if the deal falls apart. However, I don't see it happening. Proninja said it is a a coin flip. I disagree, I think its a certainty that the deal goes through.Worst case the Seattle group would just up their offer. Plus the other owners are going to get a relo fee that they won't get if the team stays. And in the end, no matter what happens the Seattle offer will be for more money.

Well I sure was wrong.

David Stern sucks and the NBA is a bunch of hypercritical pricks.

I wonder what will happen with Hansen. I hope he gives it another try, however, I am not very optimistic in this ever happening. The Kings were the best shot. I know I don't want Seattle turning into LA for the NFL or Tampa Bay for MLB.

The only good news is that ##### Stern is leaving soon.

 

[Wooderson]

Way to go Sacramento. Huge for the city.

Happy for the classy fans of Sacramento. You guys didn't deserve to get screwed in this deal.

Thanks, feel bad for Seattle but Sacramento needed this in the worst way. To bring a new arena downtown is a big deal for Sac.

what still needs to occur for the arena to actually happen?

To get through the inevitable lawsuits. I believe everything else has been sorted out.

Yep, I don't think it's going to be a problem.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Still don't think this is over. Sac won this battle, but the current owners are still in place, and till they sell I have a feeling we will be revisiting this again.

Nah it's done. Maloofs said they will not take legal action. Sten said in his presser that he hopes the sale is done with in 48 hours. Which I think means deal is done right now just need to finish it up.

I missed the press conference. Does this mean the Maloof is backing off his stance of not selling to the Sacramento group?

 

[Wooderson]

Still don't think this is over. Sac won this battle, but the current owners are still in place, and till they sell I have a feeling we will be revisiting this again.

Nah it's done. Maloofs said they will not take legal action. Sten said in his presser that he hopes the sale is done with in 48 hours. Which I think means deal is done right now just need to finish it up.

I missed the press conference. Does this mean the Maloof is backing off his stance of not selling to the Sacramento group?

Yep. Get this they said George said "we wanted to sell to someone in Sac but nobody stepped up"

Complete BS as many groups from Sac have tried to buy the team and the Maloofs never wanted to deal with them. Then they go behind Sac's back and try to get a deal done with Seattle.

They are being forced to sell to the Sac group now. I'm sure they would rather not but Stern is nod bout strong arming them now. The NBA wants that family out of the league.

 

[wazoo11]

What does this mean for the Phoenix Coyotes though?

 

[Wooderson]

What does this mean for the Phoenix Coyotes though?

I'd take em in Sac.

 

[Fennis]

What does this mean for the Phoenix Coyotes though?

staying in glendale

 

[NewlyRetired]

The ESPN article makes the sale to the Sacramento group look much less certain.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9279593/nba-owners-back-recommendation-keep-kings-sacramento

DALLAS -- NBA owners have spoken: They, too, want the Kings playing in Sacramento.

Owners from the league's 30 teams met here Wednesday for nearly four hours and voted to reject the Kings' proposed move to Seattle, backing last month's recommendation from a relocation committee to keep the team in Sacramento. Sources say the vote in favor of keeping the team in Sacramento was 22-8.

This vote means it's highly likely the league also will reject the Kings' proposed sale to a Seattle group headlined by lead investor Chris Hansen and keep the team in Sacramento.

NBA commissioner David Stern confirmed at an evening news conference that the Maloofs "have the right to retain ownership" of the Kings but expressed confidence that a sale to Silicon Valley billionaire Vivek Ranadive's consortium eventually will go through.

"It is my expectation that we'll be able to make a deal with the Maloofs and the Ranadive group," Stern said. "... It's not a certainty, but we're going to work [toward] that result."

The Maloofs, by all accounts, do not want to sell the team to the group led by Ranadive, who has worked closely with Stern during the past few months in Sacramento's scramble to try to prevent the Kings from leaving town.

 

[Wooderson]

Kevin Johnson press conference going right now. He is saying he doesn't see an issue with the Maloofs selling to a Sac group.

I think Sten was choosing his words wisely. He didn't want to make it sound like he was forcing the Maloofs to sell. IMO the Maloofs will no longer be NBA owners in the very near future.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Seattle should still go after an NHL team to start the arena building process, and then get an NBA team soon afterwards.

Phoenix Coyotes and Florida Panthers should be ripe for the taking. Would have to compete with Toronto and Quebec City most likely. Expansion may not be too far away either.

 

[thecatch]

The Maloofs will make sure this sale to Sac doesn't go smoothly, but it will get done at some point. This is no longer a "movable" franchise now that the BOG has denied two relocation attempts. Maloofs don't have any other options (and the partial sale to Hansen will never get approved either).

 

[Wooderson]

Seattle should still go after an NHL team to start the arena building process, and then get an NBA team soon afterwards.

Phoenix Coyotes and Florida Panthers should be ripe for the taking. Would have to compete with Toronto and Quebec City most likely. Expansion may not be too far away either.

Yep, with the big guns they have in that city I think they could get both NHL and NBA soon.

 

[Wooderson]

The Maloofs will make sure this sale to Sac doesn't go smoothly, but it will get done at some point. This is no longer a "movable" franchise now that the BOG has denied two relocation attempts. Maloofs don't have any other options (and the partial sale to Hansen will never get approved either).

They wont fight much IMO they are getting a great price and need the money.

 

[Fennis]

Seattle should still go after an NHL team to start the arena building process, and then get an NBA team soon afterwards.

Phoenix Coyotes and Florida Panthers should be ripe for the taking. Would have to compete with Toronto and Quebec City most likely. Expansion may not be too far away either.

The MOU Hansen has with the city assumes the NBA comes first. I don't know what it would mean, if anything, to the agreement if the NHL came first.

 

[thecatch]

The Maloofs will make sure this sale to Sac doesn't go smoothly, but it will get done at some point. This is no longer a "movable" franchise now that the BOG has denied two relocation attempts. Maloofs don't have any other options (and the partial sale to Hansen will never get approved either).

They wont fight much IMO they are getting a great price and need the money.

Yeah, but its the Maloofs.

 

[Britney Spears]

Shame here is that the NBA once again subsidizes its profits via taxpayer money.

 

[Wooderson]

Shame here is that the NBA once again subsidizes its profits via taxpayer money.

Very true. That was also an advantage Sac had. The way Seattle wanted to do would go against every other owner that likes to use the tax payer.

 

[Fennis]

To the Sonic Faithful

While we are obviously extremely disappointed with today’s relocation vote and truly believe we put forth both a significantly better offer and Arena plan, we do thank the league and the owners for their time and consideration and look forward to hearing back on our agreement to join the Maloofs as Limited Partners in the Kings.

But most of all I would like to thank everyone in Seattle who has been a part of our effort and supported our cause. Words simply can’t express how much your support has meant to me personally and to our City. I truly believe we did everything possible to put our best foot forward in this process and you all should be proud and hold your heads high today.

Our day will come…and when it does it will just be that much sweeter for the struggle.

I love you Seattle!

—Chris Hansen

 

[NewlyRetired]

To the Sonic Faithful

While we are obviously extremely disappointed with today’s relocation vote and truly believe we put forth both a significantly better offer and Arena plan, we do thank the league and the owners for their time and consideration and look forward to hearing back on our agreement to join the Maloofs as Limited Partners in the Kings.

But most of all I would like to thank everyone in Seattle who has been a part of our effort and supported our cause. Words simply can’t express how much your support has meant to me personally and to our City. I truly believe we did everything possible to put our best foot forward in this process and you all should be proud and hold your heads high today.

Our day will come…and when it does it will just be that much sweeter for the struggle.

I love you Seattle!

—Chris Hansen

interesting on the bolded. Is this another clue that the Maloofs will not sell to the Sac group? I had assumed this was just a threat during negotiations but for Hansen to come out and say in a public letter makes me wonder now if it is more concrete....?

 

[proninja]

To the Sonic Faithful

While we are obviously extremely disappointed with today’s relocation vote and truly believe we put forth both a significantly better offer and Arena plan, we do thank the league and the owners for their time and consideration and look forward to hearing back on our agreement to join the Maloofs as Limited Partners in the Kings.

But most of all I would like to thank everyone in Seattle who has been a part of our effort and supported our cause. Words simply can’t express how much your support has meant to me personally and to our City. I truly believe we did everything possible to put our best foot forward in this process and you all should be proud and hold your heads high today.

Our day will come…and when it does it will just be that much sweeter for the struggle.

I love you Seattle!

—Chris Hansen

interesting on the bolded. Is this another clue that the Maloofs will not sell to the Sac group? I had assumed this was just a threat during negotiations but for Hansen to come out and say in a public letter makes me wonder now if it is more concrete....?

This was interesting to me. Clearly Stern wants Vivek's group to buy the thing asap. Hansen still wants a piece of it, likely just in case the arena deal in Sacramento falls through.

 

[Wooderson]

Very strange on the bolded part. I would think Hansen would just concentrate on getting an expansion team. Word of advise for Hansen. Do not do business with the Maloof family.

Also I still believe the Maloofs will be out of the NBA very soon.

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

Did Stern really need to start the press conference by saying he had a game to go to in Oklahoma City before he announced the relocation wasn't going to happen?

Ouch.

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

To the Sonic Faithful

While we are obviously extremely disappointed with today’s relocation vote and truly believe we put forth both a significantly better offer and Arena plan, we do thank the league and the owners for their time and consideration and look forward to hearing back on our agreement to join the Maloofs as Limited Partners in the Kings.

But most of all I would like to thank everyone in Seattle who has been a part of our effort and supported our cause. Words simply can’t express how much your support has meant to me personally and to our City. I truly believe we did everything possible to put our best foot forward in this process and you all should be proud and hold your heads high today.

Our day will come…and when it does it will just be that much sweeter for the struggle.

I love you Seattle!

—Chris Hansen

interesting on the bolded. Is this another clue that the Maloofs will not sell to the Sac group? I had assumed this was just a threat during negotiations but for Hansen to come out and say in a public letter makes me wonder now if it is more concrete....?

This was interesting to me. Clearly Stern wants Vivek's group to buy the thing asap. Hansen still wants a piece of it, likely just in case the arena deal in Sacramento falls through.

Or maybe Hansen wants some cards to hold for the future, especially with Stern retiring.

 

[Fennis]

David Stern sucks

that ##### Stern is leaving soon.

I didnt listen to the press conference, so I just found out this gem by that dickwad. He started with this remark:

This is going to be short for me. I have a game to get to in Oklahoma City.